The Israeli military asked the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation guarantees in connection with the deployment of the air defense system in Syria

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Newspaper "News" publishes information that the Israeli military appealed to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with a request to clarify the situation with the placement in Syria of the latest modifications of the C-300 air defense system (this is about the Antey-2500 (C-300В4) air defense system installed in Tartus). According to the publication, representatives of the Israeli Ministry of Defense asked Russian colleagues to agree on special protocols and rules of interaction in connection with the deployment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria.





At the same time, it is noted that the Israeli side "understands that the Russian air defense system is a measure of protection of objects on which the Russian military are located in Syria from possible attacks from the United States." But at the same time, Israel intends to clarify the possibilities of its own actions in the event of shelling adjacent territories with Syria, which Israel considers its own. Recall that the Israeli Air Force aircraft often attack Syrian territory (and almost always exclusively the positions of the government army), arguing that the territory of Israel was fired upon. The fact that Israeli militants may be bombarded by militants of terrorist groups to carry out a provocation are not interested in the Israeli military.

The Israeli side sent a request for the current hotline to Moscow to prevent incidents in Syrian airspace. The appeal refers to the need to agree on the rules of interaction in order to eliminate the “influence of uncoordinated factors”. An Israeli expert said: "We need guarantees that there will be no mistakes." Simply put, Israel fears that if the missiles from the country's Air Force planes fly towards the position of the Syrian troops, then the C-300B4 or C-400 will "not like it" ...

Earlier, some Israeli citizens claimed that Russian C-300B4 had no reason to fear, since "They have not shot down a single aircraft." Apparently, the command has a different opinion. After all, to declare that "not a single aircraft was shot down" about the newest air defense systems - it's like talking about the complete failure of a nuclear weaponsbecause it is (thank God) Russia has never been used for military purposes either.
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  1. +41
    7 October 2016 06: 43
    apparently not without reason Israeli falcons began to fall! soldierwhy not fly Israeli flyers over the territory of a foreign state
    1. +91
      7 October 2016 07: 09
      Actually, in this case, the Israeli command is prudent and realizing that the presence of the S-300 in Syria is a fact, trying to act in new realities, moreover, holding consultations with Russia. This distinguishes them in this particular case for the better from the United States, which immediately began to scream that they would also come up with something ..
      1. +9
        7 October 2016 07: 56
        That's right, it’s better to immediately put all the points over I than to clear up the incident later.
      2. +6
        7 October 2016 08: 48
        I agree, they are smarter than a certain gentleman.
      3. +16
        7 October 2016 09: 20
        Quote: Black
        the presence of the S-300 in Syria is a fact, trying to act in new realities

        Well, their actions have long been understood, to spoil Syria, because they are eternal enemies. But what kind of guarantee they want from Russia, I still do not understand, everything is so muddy written. S-300 is a purely defensive weapon, what other guarantees do they need ???
        The Israeli expert said: "We need guarantees that there will be no mistakes" What mistakes will not be? Or is it a mistake to repel air aggression for what air defense exists?
        1. +13
          7 October 2016 12: 58
          what other guarantees do they need ???

          Jews need guarantees that when they launch missile attacks on the Syrian Army, their planes will not shoot down Russian S-300s. Yes, who could only think of a Jew.
          Who else wants guarantees in line for Jews please ......
      4. +9
        7 October 2016 14: 01
        Quote: Black
        Actually, in this case, the Israeli command is prudent and realizing that the presence of the S-300 in Syria is a fact, trying to act in new realities, moreover, holding consultations with Russia. This distinguishes them in this particular case for the better from the United States, which immediately began to scream that they would also come up with something ..

        For the best? These exceptional guys and in this situation are trying to get more and pay less. This is a Jewish dream, that he had everything, but for him nothing happened. And let them not tell me that there are a lot of our people, our people live in our country, there are a lot of dissidents and deserters.
      5. +2
        7 October 2016 17: 51
        Warranties certainly need to be given. BUT! In exchange for information on Israeli aviation flights, to know where and when they fly, and to establish communication channels.
        And so why not. by the way, the Israelis really acted reasonably.
        They don’t want to get under the hand because of Washington’s inadequate and hysterical policies.
        1. 0
          9 October 2016 17: 03
          Quote: Ulan
          Warranties certainly need to be given.

          Easy, don’t fly where you don’t need to - they will not shoot at you hi
        2. 0
          13 October 2016 18: 13
          Warranties certainly need to be given.

          and wait for our next coffins with the GRU?
          not a week has passed since the events when planes, including from Israel, were bombed on the Syrian and our military.
          How many coffins do you need? What is the price of guarantees?
          Can start trading these very guarantees?
          Israel literally rummages through Syria in your pocket.
      6. 0
        11 October 2016 13: 38
        Quote: Black
        in this case, the Israeli command is prudent

        sensed the crows that the gyrfalcons soared ....
    2. +5
      7 October 2016 07: 12
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      apparently not without reason Israeli falcons began to fall!

      Just like that, even cats will not be born; it is their lord that lands. wink
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    3. +40
      7 October 2016 07: 19
      ... representatives of the Israeli Defense Ministry asked their Russian colleagues to agree on special protocols and rules for cooperation in connection with the deployment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria ...

      The presentation of the question by the Israeli "colleagues" is very timely ...
      That is, in normal Russian it translates as follows:
      "We will continue with the help of our air force to cover and clear the way for the supervised" Front of Al-Nusra ", to fire at the Syrian army destroying them in the Golan, and you (the Russian Aerospace Forces) guarantee us that you will not interfere with this ..."
      Very interesting ...
      1. +10
        7 October 2016 08: 27
        [quote = Andrey K] [quote] .. ..
        That is, in normal Russian it translates as follows:
        [/ Quote]
        Perhaps you are confusing normal Russian and your own fabrications. smile hi
        1. +10
          7 October 2016 08: 39
          Bayonet is still support for Israeli matzo laughing
          1. +6
            7 October 2016 08: 56
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            Bayonet is still support for Israeli matzo

            Matzah - flat cakes from dough that have not passed the fermentation, which are allowed to be used during the Jewish holiday of Passover. And why support them? Do you care about cakes? You'll probably never get smarter request
            1. +14
              7 October 2016 09: 01
              what kind of patient hurt? belay do not take off the pile! lol
          2. +12
            7 October 2016 09: 00
            Murzik is a representative of haters who send others to die for their ability to puff out their cheeks.
            1. +15
              7 October 2016 09: 35
              it’s like the Russian VKS in Syria officially, but what are they doing on the territory of a foreign state of Israel? belay
          3. +11
            7 October 2016 11: 45
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            Bayonet is still support for Israeli matzo


            Dear, think about what you write about. Matza is the national bread. Jews could treat our "bread", Uzbek "lavash" or Georgian "churek" with the same disrespect. it is not good to use the sacred to insult the nation (which in itself smacks of Nazism). I would apologize. fool
            1. +4
              7 October 2016 12: 15
              Quote: Lelek
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              Bayonet is still support for Israeli matzo


              Dear, think about what you write about. Matza is the national bread. Jews could treat our "bread", Uzbek "lavash" or Georgian "churek" with the same disrespect. it is not good to use the sacred to insult the nation (which in itself smacks of Nazism). I would apologize. fool

              But murziks with quilted jackets still do not understand - not a danos! laughing
          4. +8
            7 October 2016 11: 46
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            The bayonet is still support for the Israeli matzoh laughing

            Yes, it’s long been clear that the bayonet of these lol
        2. +14
          7 October 2016 12: 59
          Quote: Bayonet

          Perhaps you are confusing normal Russian and your own fabrications. smile hi

          Perhaps I will not argue with you hi
          Whether I confuse or not, I personally spoke out - translated into Russian:
          ... Israel fears that if the missiles from the country's air force planes fly towards the position of the Syrian forces, then the S-300B4 or S-400 may not like this ...

          If you have another translation of this Jesuit-diplomatic wobble, please be kind to your option on the forum. wink
          And if not, then wildly sorry but - the topic of the article is not a discussion of my "translation" hi
          1. 0
            7 October 2016 14: 19
            Quote: Andrey K
            Perhaps I will not argue with you
            Whether I confuse or not, I personally spoke out - translated into Russian:

            That is, in normal Russian it translates as follows:
            "We will continue, with the help of our air force, to cover and clear the way for the supervised Al-Nusra Front,
            Are these your words? Where did you get this? The accusation is very serious, but based on your own imagination smile
            1. +1
              7 October 2016 14: 46
              How do you know?
            2. +9
              7 October 2016 15: 07
              Quote: Bayonet
              Are these your words? Where did you get this? The accusation is very serious, but based on your own imagination smile

              Alexander, are you talking to yourself?
              I already wrote to you what I said and these are my thoughts Yes
              Do you suggest looking at the situation from a different angle? So express your thoughts, be so kind. I’ll tell you a secret - VO involves discussing the news, which is what I actually do, and not trolling those who comment on what you do hi
              In essence, the relationship between "Nusra" and Israel as a state (special services in particular), the question is not for me but for Israel. This is not an accusation, but a statement of fact. Take the trouble to read on this topic and all your questions will disappear. Yes
            3. +3
              7 October 2016 15: 19
              Andrey K,
              Now he will try to make a link. And if you don’t give, then all this at once is a lie. Not because you yourself are looking for laziness.
    4. +14
      7 October 2016 09: 28
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      apparently not without reason Israeli falcons began to fall! soldierwhy not fly Israeli flyers over the territory of a foreign state

      "Israel demands guarantees" ...
      What the fuck are guarantees for those who are always ready to betray, and stick a knife in the back too ...
      Israel has always helped militants fighting wahhabs against Russia, in Israel these terrorists were treated, rested and gained strength.
      Nehru to do Israel in Syria, and everything that will crawl from the side should fly destroyed
      1. +2
        8 October 2016 14: 42
        Quote: Donhapa
        "Israel demands guarantees" ...

        Well, again, an attempt to pervert everything. Can't you read? - "The Israeli military appealed to the Russian Ministry of Defense with a request to clarify the situation with the deployment in Syria of the latest modifications of the S-300 air defense system"
        WHERE ARE DEMANDS here? APPLIED WITH A REQUEST! Well, what can you do without lies?request
  2. +22
    7 October 2016 06: 46
    In ... stir ...
    Earlier, some Israeli citizens claimed that the Russian S-300B4 had no reason to fear, because "They didn’t shoot down a single plane."
    I wonder how many pilots in Israel are ready to test this?
    ".. asked for guarantees ..."
    - I think our representative of the Ministry of Defense clearly said that there is ONE GUARANTEE; if you climb, you get it.
    1. +6
      7 October 2016 07: 11
      Quote: svp67
      ".. asked for guarantees ..." - I think our representative of the Ministry of Defense clearly said that there is only one GUARANTEE, if you climb up, you will get


      the author writes but there are no links. very interesting...
      1. +25
        7 October 2016 07: 41
        Quote: Maki Avellievich

        the author writes but there are no links. very interesting...

        Then one Jew wrote yesterday that you should be bogged down at our air defense, smeared and spit out. Also did not represent links.
        But given the fact that we are all gentlemen here, we will take each other's word.
        1. +2
          7 October 2016 07: 55
          Smeared and spit it out too much of course, but it will be VERY hard to beat off our massive blow.
          1. +3
            7 October 2016 08: 16
            Quote: Mitek
            a massive blow to repel our will be VERY hard.

            More precisely, five or six complexes will not beat him exactly.
            1. +5
              7 October 2016 09: 08
              They will not beat it off for sure, but there is one thing, but after that Israel, if we mean it, will decrease its Air Force so much that it will not be able to pose a threat to the "friends of Israel" well, you yourself understand ...
            2. 0
              7 October 2016 11: 16
              Quote: Vladimirets
              More precisely, five or six complexes will not beat him exactly.

              And together with the air defense of the fleet, there is some chance. And do not forget that to deliver such a blow, it must be organized, and this means to concentrate the delivery vehicles of "Tomahawks", I hope that our scouts will not miss it
          2. +7
            7 October 2016 08: 37
            It's time to introduce a permissive order. If you want to fly, please ask permission. Shoot down one plane, and then ask what he was doing in the sacred airspace of Syria.
            The massive strike by the Israeli Air Force is already ridiculous. What then will remain of that Israel.
          3. +3
            7 October 2016 09: 07
            Quote: Mitek
            but it will be VERY hard to repel our massive blow.

            After massaged on ours, there will be a massed ICBM on them. Yes, what am I talking about, what a massive, in the same place a kid who has most of the territory barren deserts, only the Negev desert 60% of the territory, one Yars Kuzhegetovich will single out if that’s all ...
        2. 0
          7 October 2016 09: 07
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Then one Jew wrote yesterday that you should be bogged down at our air defense, smeared and spit out.

          he repeated this for Kedmi. But about the "crashed on steeper" people clearly got excited.
        3. +4
          7 October 2016 20: 04
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Then one Jew wrote yesterday


          Well, you know, here yesterday Baba Klava spoke ...
          1. 0
            8 October 2016 16: 58
            Maki, specify, please.
            Israel is bombing Hezbollah in Syria, which is fighting with ISIS, which is fighting with Syria.
            But why isn’t Israel bombing ISIS (banned in Russia)?

            I understand that an agreement with the Russian Federation on the prevention of accidents in the sky of Syria is necessary, but do you exclude provocations from ISIS?
      2. +10
        7 October 2016 15: 38
        I didn’t want to interfere in your substantive discussion, but I could not resist. Let's deal with the facts.
        1. The Israeli Armed Forces have never hesitated to give "response" to the shelling of its territory. And in this they are great - everything is correct. It is a fact.
        2. It is also a fact that very often this response fell on the forces of Assad, and in all likelihood they were fired upon by the "barmaley! I do not think that Assad is a clinical mental patient to get involved in a conflict with Israel in the current situation. What do you think."
        3. Violation of the border of a neighboring sovereign state with strikes on its territory is a violation of sovereignty? Yes, it is a fact.
        4. Does the Armed Forces of this state have the right to shoot down aircraft that have violated borders? Yes is a fact. The fact that Assad had not done anything before indicates the weakness of his air defense and the fear of getting stuck in a conflict with Israel.
        5. And the last. Russia is not Syria and our air defense is not Syrian air defense. It’s just that Israel is not doing anything - very smart people are sitting in the government and headquarters - that means they feel a threat. There is only one question - under what conditions will ours provide guarantees to Israel. I would not give on any.
        1. +2
          8 October 2016 05: 51
          Quote: Neputin
          fired on in all likelihood "barmaley!

          "In all likelihood," it means - possibly, maybe - that is, it is not a fact, but an assumption or a desirable option. If it was artillery shelling, then where did the barmaley have artillery in the territory controlled by Assad?
          Quote: Neputin
          I do not think Assad is a clinical psychiatric patient to get involved in a conflict with Israel in the current situation. And what do you think.

          Assad is not clinically ill, but he cannot personally keep track of every military man (such as our Vatnik and others like him), who, out of a feeling of personal hostility towards the Jews, decided to send a couple of shells to Israel, since it’s nearby. Well, all the sins (and the response of Israel) naturally fall on Assad and his army.
          This is just like ours, almost something is wrong - "it's Putin's fault!" smile
    2. +19
      7 October 2016 08: 41
      Quote: svp67
      I think our representative of the Defense Ministry clearly said

      1. +3
        7 October 2016 09: 51
        If you said A, then you need to say B.
        At the consultation of Israel, give a clear and unambiguous answer:
        Syrian airspace is closed to Israeli military aviation.
  3. +22
    7 October 2016 06: 47
    "Representatives of the Israeli Defense Ministry asked their Russian colleagues to agree on special protocols and rules for interaction in connection with the deployment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria."

    You can't deny the Jews' brains, as long as "some kind of coalition against someone" chews snot and puffs out cheeks, scattering "terrible" words from the high stands, Israel decided first of all to decide the safety of its pilots.
    1. +8
      7 October 2016 07: 03
      Quote: Vladimirets
      You can't refuse the brains of the Jews

      Quote: Vladimirets
      Israel decided first of all to decide the safety of its pilots.

      Here are the big-headed guys, if something comes to bomb the Syrian military, and so as not to shoot us, no mistake! We are officially and legally bombing the Syrian soldiers.
      1. +7
        7 October 2016 08: 17
        Quote: Petr1
        if we will fly to bomb the Syrian military,

        "If something" is not a reason for the bombing, Israel responded with a retaliatory strike to shelling its territory. The shelling of the territory of the Rostov region remained unanswered. Tolerance! smile
        1. +3
          7 October 2016 09: 00
          Quote: Bayonet
          "If something" is not a reason for the bombing, Israel responded with a retaliatory strike to shelling its territory. The shelling of the territory of the Rostov region remained unanswered. Tolerance!

          And what had to be done? I look forward to a plan of further action from the genius of geopolitics.
          1. +2
            7 October 2016 09: 15
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And what had to be done?

            It was necessary to send a response, quickly and efficiently, if - "the inviolability of our borders" is not just empty words. hi
            1. +6
              7 October 2016 09: 58
              Quote: Bayonet
              It was necessary to send a response, quickly and efficiently, if - "the inviolability of our borders" is not just empty words.

              Is this such a joke? But nothing that we are not Israel, and Ukraine is not Syria? We have slightly different geopolitical realities.
        2. +3
          7 October 2016 09: 35
          Are you sure that the shelling of the Rostov region remained unanswered?)) .... The answer was from under Rostov Donetsk ... and then the boilers, Minsk-2 ..
          1. +1
            8 October 2016 05: 55
            Quote: Stabilization
            The answer was from Rostov Donetsk ...

            Well, enlighten a resident of the Rostov region, what kind of answer was from under our Donetsk? smile
    2. +7
      7 October 2016 07: 06
      . The Israeli military asked the Russian Defense Ministry for guarantees in connection with the deployment of air defense systems in Syria

      In other words, the Israeli military asked Putin to continue to bomb freely Assad’s friendly troops, which of course they were allowed to!
      1. +7
        7 October 2016 07: 49
        Quote: Petr1
        Here are the big-headed guys, if something comes to bomb the Syrian military, and so as not to shoot us, no mistake! We are officially and legally bombing the Syrian soldiers.

        Quote: Stas157
        In other words, the Israeli military asked Putin to continue to bomb freely Assad’s friendly troops, which of course they were allowed to!

        This is not even the point. While the "big guys" are doing global politics, Israel is quietly solving its problems. And I regard such tactical agreements on air defense as Israel's desire to avoid accidental escalations with Russia. Israel, by the way, did not impose sanctions on Russia, although, it would seem, is tightly on American aid. request
      2. +3
        7 October 2016 09: 04
        Quote: Stas157
        In other words, the Israeli military asked Putin to continue to bomb freely Assad’s friendly troops, which of course they were allowed to!

        What kind of perverted understanding of the surrounding reality - did you dream about it or Putin personally informed? wassat ..
        1. 0
          7 October 2016 15: 21
          Go cut salads in the kitchen.
          1. +1
            8 October 2016 05: 32
            Quote: Magua-001
            Go cut salads in the kitchen.

            Listen to an Indian, or write something specific, or don’t get in trouble. What salads ??? I drank fiery water? wassat
            1. 0
              9 October 2016 14: 43
              Such as they say to you, Shabbes. are you higher than about Putin, wrote something specific?
    3. +1
      7 October 2016 09: 09
      well, so fellow Jews have always been distinguished by intelligence and quick wit
    4. +1
      7 October 2016 09: 39
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "Representatives of the Israeli Defense Ministry asked their Russian colleagues to agree on special protocols and rules for interaction in connection with the deployment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria."

      You can't deny the Jews' brains, as long as "some kind of coalition against someone" chews snot and puffs out cheeks, scattering "terrible" words from the high stands, Israel decided first of all to decide the safety of its pilots.


      To water everyone!
  4. +6
    7 October 2016 06: 48
    Yes, the Israeli General Staff scratches its head. With the advent of our complexes, half of the territory of Israel is under control! Need to interact !!!!
    1. +5
      7 October 2016 06: 50
      Quote: Hunter
      With the advent of our complexes, half of the territory of Israel is under control!

      The main thing is that their central airbase in the desert is visible "as if on a silver platter" and in which case it makes no sense to play as gentlemen, they will be shot down on takeoff ...
      1. 0
        7 October 2016 08: 58
        ..... if someone will take off. smile
  5. PKK
    +9
    7 October 2016 06: 48
    Let them write a note to the government of Syria and sort through deep channels, otherwise they will take on fashion, local hosts, just to immediately bomb the government troops without a showdown.
    1. +1
      7 October 2016 09: 12
      our how many times they tried so that everyone turned to Assad on all issues, it doesn’t work out, one figs is all to anyone who doesn’t get to Moscow rod.
  6. +16
    7 October 2016 06: 51
    Israel has a completely correct position, especially since their snouts are in fluff. Now is the time to "agree on the shore" (C), so that later it would not be excruciatingly painful to sort things out after some incident. The Americans, however, do not understand this out of their arrogance, and the locomotive is going to meet them.
  7. +3
    7 October 2016 06: 52
    I hope they will send. And not a communication system, but a forest.
    otherwise, for some reason I’m sure soon this information will turn out to be with the Yankees
  8. +5
    7 October 2016 06: 57
    What guarantees does the Israeli side need? The state borders have not been canceled yet, and if we have already undertaken to protect our military in the places of deployment, then forgive me ... although it is possible to agree with adequate neighbors. True, there are few of them at all, everyone wants to pay off on Russia, to feel their power, unfortunately, GaFFKans often get sticky in their pants ... well, these are the costs of physiology. The age-old Russian question (and the Israelis know it very well, fortunately that half are from both the USSR and Russia) - "Do you respect me?", But if not, then catch it.
    1. +7
      7 October 2016 07: 44
      Quote: ochakow703
      What guarantees do the Israeli side need?
      Honest noble word
  9. +5
    7 October 2016 06: 58
    I remember here the citizens of Israel with foam at the mouth proved that they were not afraid of C 300 ...
    1. +8
      7 October 2016 07: 19
      Quote: regdan
      I remember here the citizens of Israel with foam at the mouth proved that they were not afraid of C 300 ...


      Well, I don’t know about the c300, but in 1982 19 2K12 batteries deployed in Syria are not scared. (all 19 were destroyed)
      1. +9
        7 October 2016 07: 30
        Well, nothing lasts forever, even Israel! lol
        1. +4
          7 October 2016 09: 05
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          Well, nothing lasts forever, even Israel!

          But seemingly eternal people are eternal. Which I look at the moment turns out to be a shaft in both Russia and Israel.
          1. +4
            7 October 2016 09: 49
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            Well, nothing lasts forever, even Israel!

            But seemingly eternal people are eternal.
      2. +2
        7 October 2016 07: 34
        Far from the best complex with a bunch of flaws, although adopted for service already in 1967!
        1. +1
          7 October 2016 23: 46
          Quote: Terner38
          Far from the best complex with a bunch of flaws, although adopted for service already in 1967!


          You are a representative of a new generation of a new site format. Write what you want, and there will be nothing for you. 20 minuses would have been so shabby. For the lack of soundness and lack of knowledge of the topic, with which it was arguing, not asking.
      3. +5
        7 October 2016 07: 35
        Would you like to say that you will try again?
        v1982 19 2K12 batteries deployed in Syria did not scare. (all 19 were destroyed)

        As I say, your military has a slightly different opinion.
      4. +14
        7 October 2016 08: 14
        Quote: Maki Avellevich
        Quote: regdan
        I remember here the citizens of Israel with foam at the mouth proved that they were not afraid of C 300 ...


        Well, I don’t know about the c300, but in 1982 19 2K12 batteries deployed in Syria are not scared. (all 19 were destroyed)

        Well, first of all, don't compare the export blunt version of the Cuba with the S-300. Military air defense and air defense of the country are two big differences. "Cube" in 1982 could have been completely destroyed without entering the zone of destruction of its missiles.
        And secondly, as they say - it was not a reel - the hollow was in the cab. bully You also forgot to talk about the destroyed at the same time components and more "senior" complexes - S-75, S-125 and even S-200, especially the SNR for the first and the ROC for the latter. The time of prayer comes, the calculations flop on prayer rugs and pray, facing towards Mecca, and at this time the heroic Israeli pilots destroy the equipment entrusted to these calculations, most often - together with them - they did not go far for prayer ... as much as once a day! request
        I do not blame Israeli pilots at all - this is a war, and suckers must be taught!
        But the fighting qualities of both Soviet technology and Israeli aviation cannot be judged from these episodes. Full-fledged wars, in particular Vietnam, showed perfectly that our air defense systems coped with their tasks. Cope now. Or does anyone have a desire to check? wink
        1. +4
          7 October 2016 09: 44
          Quote: andj61
          The time of prayer comes, the calculations flop on prayer rugs and pray, facing Mecca, and at that time the heroic Israeli pilots destroy the equipment entrusted to these calculations, most often - along with them - they did not go far for prayer ... But the prayer once a day!


          Muslims pray 5 times a day.
          1. +1
            7 October 2016 09: 57
            in war 2 times in the morning and in the evening.
          2. +1
            7 October 2016 10: 57
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            Muslims pray 5 times a day.

            I wanted to write, but the number 5 didn’t work on the phone - apparently, I didn’t press it in a hurry, and my fingers are still not for the phone. laughing And I saw only when it was no longer possible to fix it and it turned out "already once a day", when I wanted to write "as much as 5 times a day" ... request hi
      5. +13
        7 October 2016 08: 19
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Well, I don’t know about the c300, but in 1982

        Well, I don’t know either, but in the yard 2016 and the C300’s calculations are not Arab, so dear, all the same, it’s better not to bother each other. It’s like we have normal relations with Israel and feel their strength, I think it's still not worth it .
        1. +5
          7 October 2016 08: 32
          Quote: vovanpain
          , so dear all the same, it’s better not to bother each other. Like with Israel, we now have normal relations

          You are right, that's why - "The Israeli military asked the RF Ministry of Defense for guarantees in connection with the deployment of the air defense system in Syria." Everything is simple and understandable, of course not to the terry anti-Semites, who began their next verbiage smile
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          2. +8
            7 October 2016 08: 49
            Quote: Bayonet
            certainly not terry anti-Semites who began their next verbiage

            Well already nuclear batons began to measure fool , you can, after all, make it to the point that even though you move to the Moon, the Earth simply will not. request hiThank God, on the sofa.
      6. VP
        +1
        7 October 2016 08: 24
        Frightened or not, but even with the Syrian crews "Squares" were able to fill up 8 of the 6 launches of the letak.
      7. +3
        7 October 2016 09: 22
        Well, I don’t know about Cuba, but the c300 and c400 are not military air defenses, moreover, they are covered by Shells + su30 and su35. I already wrote in which case of course the complexes will be destroyed, but the Air Force will suffer unacceptable losses, this time. and 2 where will your prime minister be after that?
      8. +2
        7 October 2016 09: 42
        Quote: Maki Avellevich
        Quote: regdan
        I remember here the citizens of Israel with foam at the mouth proved that they were not afraid of C 300 ...


        Well, I don’t know about the c300, but in 1982 19 2K12 batteries deployed in Syria are not scared. (all 19 were destroyed)


        Because Israeli agents are teeming with the Kremlin ...
        1. VP
          +2
          7 October 2016 09: 57
          What are the Kremlin agents in '82 and what is their significance for the small Syrian "Squares"?
          Has friday begun?
  10. +5
    7 October 2016 07: 01
    In fact, everything is simple with guarantees. They will not fly - they are guaranteed not to be shot down. they will fly and even bomb - they are also guaranteed to be shot down.
    1. +7
      7 October 2016 07: 41
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      In fact, everything is simple with guarantees. They will not fly - they are guaranteed not to be shot down. they will fly and even bomb - they are also guaranteed to be shot down.

      This is quite possible, only a game with one goal, it is only in the dreams of senior students. Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

      So, what is next. Well, besides the gap in diplomatic relations can happen? Our economic ties are not great. We survive. So Messrs. Couch heroes can now guess why the deputy ogsh of the Russian Federation has flown to Israel four times over the past year. The absence of mutual problems is in the common interest.
      PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,
      1. +15
        7 October 2016 07: 54
        This is quite possible, only a game with one goal, it is only in the dreams of senior students. Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

        Do not carry nonsense. Smarter then a little bit. Hundreds, thousands, mullions ... This is automatically a declaration of war. The deceitful corrupt government of Israel will immediately run away, but the citizens of Israel will have to rake the shit in which they find themselves ...
        1. +12
          7 October 2016 08: 35
          Quote: regdan
          Do not carry nonsense. Smarter then a little bit.

          This is not nonsense, but an adequate response to aggressive verbiage suffering painful cheers-patriotism! laughing
          1. +4
            7 October 2016 08: 57
            Hooray patriotism ???? Well, hundreds, thousands, mulhons, this is definitely patriotism cheers !!!
          2. +2
            7 October 2016 10: 48
            Quote: Bayonet
            This is not nonsense, but an adequate response to aggressive verbiage suffering painful cheers-patriotism!

            Bayonet, but nothing that you can find yourself in one of these 3-4 areas? Although of course all this is nothing more than a battle of couch generals.
      2. +7
        7 October 2016 07: 57
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case that would be used, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

        Does Israel have a delivery vehicle?
        1. +3
          7 October 2016 08: 36
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case that would be used, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

          Does Israel have a delivery vehicle?

          Jericho 3 - a three-stage ballistic missile. First, they talked about the possibility of delivering warheads weighing up to 1 ton with a range of up to 4800 km. According to the results of the 2008 tests, the media slipped reports that the same warhead was delivered over 4000 km with a two-stage version of Jericho-3. This means that in the three-stage version it will be at least 7000 km, and these are the ICBM parameters.
          1. +8
            7 October 2016 09: 04
            Jews are smart, intelligent people! They will not take the situation to extremes, as they understand that they will not succeed in destroying all of Russia, and if so, only memories will remain from the state of Israel. In any accounting that the Jews love so much, the advantage is not on their side. Therefore, if Israel speaks with the Arabs from a position of strength, then they will have to negotiate with the Russians.
      3. +8
        7 October 2016 07: 57
        calm your wet dreams - "hundreds of planes"
        1. +9
          7 October 2016 08: 27
          Quote: DrZed
          calm your wet dreams - "hundreds of planes"

          Schoolboy, do you know the composition of the Air Force AOI?
          1. +11
            7 October 2016 08: 59
            And everyone will have time to take off ... In which case ???
          2. +6
            7 October 2016 09: 15
            You are an enlightener, and at the same time answer the question why are you protecting the barmalei? Now they’re cutting off their Arabs’ heads, and tomorrow they’ll cut you off with great pleasure
          3. +1
            7 October 2016 09: 32
            calm down, I know, and, unlike you, I graduated from school 37 years ago
      4. +2
        7 October 2016 08: 00
        If it comes to YAO, then you will not have time to apply it.
      5. +4
        7 October 2016 08: 01
        Nuclear blackmail? belay
        1. +6
          7 October 2016 08: 34
          Quote: Evil543
          Nuclear blackmail? belay

          From your side? Constantly.
          1. +3
            7 October 2016 09: 12
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Nuclear blackmail?
            From your side? Constantly.

            It is not true that officials never even mentioned nuclear weapons in relation to Israel!
            Yes, it actually is not needed. There will be enough cruise missiles to smash the entire infrastructure.
          2. +2
            7 October 2016 09: 24
            Mr. Zawi, you first started waving your high-precision missile, and then ours climbed on the shelf to look for nuclear weapons
          3. +1
            7 October 2016 09: 51
            Aron Zawi Today, 07:41
            PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,
            If honestly first your comment.
        2. +3
          7 October 2016 08: 40
          Quote: Evil543
          Nuclear blackmail?

          Well yes, as always -
          Rostov 2016
          and there will be a mirror where Israel was. First, the mushroom will grow and then a mirror will appear.

          Alex20042004
          With the same success, Israel can now be bombed.

          Alexander 3
          We must behave decently and we will not shoot down your planes. I reported where, why, and if ours is allowed then fly.
          1. +3
            7 October 2016 09: 56
            Bayonet Today, 08:40

            Today blackmail began Aron hi , just a statement of fact
      6. +8
        7 October 2016 08: 04
        and there will be a mirror where Israel was. First, the mushroom will grow and then a mirror will appear.
        1. +4
          7 October 2016 08: 35
          Quote: Rostov2016
          and there will be a mirror where Israel was. First, the mushroom will grow and then a mirror will appear.

          No doubt. The only question is one. How many millions of Russians will die for this?
          1. +12
            7 October 2016 09: 02
            Not at all! Are you going to bomb Russia nuclear weapons? Well, declare war. And so only a miserable squeak I see here in VO ... And why should Russia immediately kill you? Hmm, you have few enemies? You can supply your enemies with weapons, what will you do? Oh yeah, send your hundreds, thousands, F-35 mullions that really don’t even fly ...
          2. +5
            7 October 2016 09: 12
            yes not at all! the handles are short
      7. +7
        7 October 2016 08: 25
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is quite possible, only a game with one goal, it is only in the dreams of senior students. Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

        Is it worth it?
        It’s clear that several S-300 and S-400 systems are simply unable to protect Syria from massive air raids and missiles. There will be hundreds of goals - of course, they will not cope. But up to hundreds, that is, with dozens - quite successfully! And then the Navy grouping - without even resorting to forces and means on the territory of the Russian Federation, will say its word. And which of the sane people would like to try?
        Thank God, in the leadership of Israel and Russia, people are quite sane and mutual interests - as shown by the real practice of recent actions - fully take into account!
        In this plan
        more Americans should be wary. If Obama were a strong leader - there would be no danger. But he is a weak leader, and in order to show that this is not so, he may well authorize a gamble that could end in failure for everyone.
        1. 0
          7 October 2016 09: 31
          You offend Mr. Oval. He has a full macaque nursery, scribbles at you and let the macaques out of the cage.
        2. 0
          7 October 2016 11: 04
          Quote: andj61
          If Obama were a strong leader - there would be no danger. But he is a weak leader, and in order to show that this is not so, he may well authorize a gamble that could end in failure for everyone.

          Do you really think the only question is which Obama is the leader? smile
      8. +11
        7 October 2016 08: 35
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

        Well, yes, the territory of Israel stretches for thousands of kilometers and there are dozens of ICBMs on duty on duty there, capable of flying to anywhere in the world in twenty minutes ... wassat laughing While the F-16 with a nuclear bomb will reach the desired target (will it still be a question?), There will be nowhere to go back tongue
        At the time, the Americans made Israel a couple of dozen bombs to guarantee protection from the surrounding Arabs, so enjoy the relative calm and do not wave a red rag in front of serious players wassat . Exclusivity brings no good wink hi
        1. +1
          7 October 2016 09: 52
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Well, yes, the territory of Israel stretches for thousands of kilometers and there are dozens of ICBMs on duty on duty there, capable of flying to anywhere in the world in twenty minutes ...


          Well, let's say there are countries that have submarines, on which we can say missiles can be, maybe nuclear weapons. but why go there?
      9. +7
        7 October 2016 08: 42
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

        This is no longer pour !!! Morning in the yard, and he is already so warlike! If you don’t calm down, then by lunchtime 10 million aircraft will be sent to bomb the North Pole ...
      10. +6
        7 October 2016 08: 45
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

        Aron, are you crazy? What hundreds, what the fuck are air-to-ground rockets? Do you need the Third World for happiness?
        1. +2
          7 October 2016 09: 59
          IS-80_RVGK2 Today, 08:45 ↑
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.
          Aron, are you crazy? What hundreds, what the fuck are air-to-ground rockets? Do you need the Third World for happiness?

          Can the people be adult sensible people who do not suffer from senility? Not that the 3rd world will start on the VO site
      11. +6
        7 October 2016 08: 51
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        not one but a hundred
        - and they can take off? Aren't you afraid that ay-ya-ka may happen to airfields? We have boats floating there yet.

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        So, what is next. Well, besides the gap in diplomatic relations can happen?

        - Well, if you consider the destruction of the entire military infrastructure "a break in diplomatic relations," then yes, nothing else will happen.

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case
        - why nuclear weapons? Enough caliber. More nuclear weapons to spend on you ... A lot of honor.

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        but we also have
        - in any form? In the form of freely falling bombs?

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        three to four surviving areas,
        - Himself not funny from what was said? laughing
      12. +1
        7 October 2016 08: 58
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

        Do you understand that in this case there will be nothing left from Israel except memories? The naked scorched earth where those who survived will envy the dead. And do you even give a damn about the inhabitants of these 3-4 regions of Russia?
      13. +5
        7 October 2016 09: 09
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        In fact, everything is simple with guarantees. They will not fly - they are guaranteed not to be shot down. they will fly and even bomb - they are also guaranteed to be shot down.

        It is quite possible, only a one-goal game is she only in the dreams of high school students. Well, an Israeli aircraft will bring down the Russian air defense, and the next time they will go to the target not just one but a hundred. And even losing a dozen will turn the position of your air defense in the surviving land due to air-to-ground missiles "Delilah".

        So, what is next. Well, besides the gap in diplomatic relations can happen? Our economic ties are not great. We survive. So Messrs. Couch heroes can now guess why the deputy ogsh of the Russian Federation has flown to Israel four times over the past year. The absence of mutual problems is in the common interest.
        PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,


        Shalom Ubraha Aron! hi
        I did not expect such an answer from you ... Usually you write short, sustained and technically competent comments and here ... So you can reach the level of Oleg in his "bad" comments (Hello Oleg and no offense). For example, I have great respect for Israel and I have reasons for that (although there is not a single Semitic in my relatives) and it would not even have occurred to me on an Israeli site to write such a comment like yours ...

        By the way, Aron, I have many friends (real friends and not acquaintances) who are both citizens of Israel and Jews without citizenship of this state, and so not very many of them share the current position of the leadership of Israel, which recently "a little" played in politics / geopolitics, and in particular with those who would not have been allowed to get a cannon shot before ...

        Best regards hi
        1. +11
          7 October 2016 10: 46
          Quote: Now we are free

          Shalom Ubraha Aron! hi
          I did not expect such an answer from you ... Usually you write short, sustained and technically competent comments and here ... So you can reach the level of Oleg in his "bad" comments (Hello Oleg and no offense). For example, I have great respect for Israel and I have reasons for that (although there is not a single Semitic in my relatives) and it would not even have occurred to me on an Israeli site to write such a comment like yours ...

          By the way, Aron, I have many friends (real friends and not acquaintances) who are both citizens of Israel and Jews without citizenship of this state, and so not very many of them share the current position of the leadership of Israel, which recently "a little" played in politics / geopolitics, and in particular with those who would not have been allowed to get a cannon shot before ...

          Best regards hi

          Shabbat Shalom. hi They just gave up the caps. In itself, a very sane message. In connection with the aggravated situation and the strengthening of the Russian air defense grouping in Syria, Israeli representatives want to clarify and adjust the existing agreements. Is it adequate? Quite. But then they climb out from under the "Murziki" and begin to threaten and puff out their cheeks. At the same time, it was the Russian Federation, proceeding from its interests, came to our region, and it was not Israel that sent five squadrons to Ukraine. Therefore, the leadership of our countries entered into negotiations and found acceptable compromises. I think they will find it now. And my answer was just a fly in the ointment sweet dreams of a "cat concert". They wanted a scandal, that's how they got it.
          PS to understand the attitude of the Israelis to Russia, ask about the cost and, in general, the opportunity to purchase tickets for tours of the largest Russian theaters. Read how Israeli volunteers raise funds and eliminate holidays for children from Russia who are treated here. About state guarantees to our pharmaceutical concern Teva, which is building a new plant in Russia in order to five times increase the production of drugs in Russia, about a giant agreement being prepared to modernize Russian dairy production, etc. And Murzik and his gop-company pissed off and will pissed off! angry
          1. +3
            7 October 2016 11: 07
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And my answer was just a fly in the ointment sweet dreams of a "cat concert". They wanted a scandal, that's how they got it.

            Aron, so why should they play along? what
            Israel in many areas cooperates with Russia to mutual benefit, Putin and Netanyahu constantly meet and all possible unpleasant issues are successfully resolved. And they found a common language long ago, which cannot be said about the relationship of each of them with Obama. I think that nothing will change in the future. By the way, this article only emphasizes the trusting relations of our countries - and nothing more! hi
          2. +1
            7 October 2016 14: 35
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            At the same time, the Russian Federation, based on its interests, came to our region, and not Israel threw five squadrons to Ukraine
            - So, take the turn for the title of superpower. You will be after the Baltic states and Ukraine.
            1. +3
              7 October 2016 14: 52
              Quote: Dazdranagon
              - So, take the turn for the title of superpower. You will be after the Baltic states and Ukraine.

              What for? We prefer to build a normal country, so that our citizens have affordable and high-quality medical care in their country, so that the products on the table are varied and tasty, so that people are happy today, and do not postpone it until the distant future. Are you super power? You know, I watch the "Saltykov-Shchedrin show" through YouTube and somehow I doubt it.
              1. 0
                9 September 2017 23: 28
                You only need to devour ... And we leave the land to our grandchildren ... Well, where do you understand us ... You even could not build a state yourself!
      14. +10
        7 October 2016 09: 15
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        PS and do not swing nuclear weapons is not the case to use it, especially since it is much smaller, but we also have it. So it’s unlikely that the Russian leadership will want to pay for the destruction of Israel by three or four survived regions,

        It’s quite evident that you’re a stupid person, what areas, after the liquidation of Israel, what kind of retaliatory strike can be discussed at all, you don’t have the depth of territory to react, your radar looks only at 500 km, it will see when it’s late, your storages and mines have long been marked as goals (you are from the block of "friends" of the Russian Federation), you yourself are a couch warrior, since you think so. The generals of the United States and Britain are talking about the fear of the Russian Federation and the impossibility of winning, and here Hisbala hung a pimple on the Mordas.
      15. +2
        7 October 2016 09: 18
        Do you know the concept of echeloned defense? Even if out of a hundred planes through the S-300 and S-400 a dozen with the Delilah break through, then the Pantsiri will be waiting for them !!!!
      16. 0
        7 October 2016 09: 29
        Well, you also suffered. I'm not afraid of the word idiot? Perhaps, I don’t understand that the Jews ooh ... t from their neve ... st, but you still measure the weight categories. I certainly have respect for the country of Israel. but to find her entry on the map, I do not always succeed and describe .... be it such a "pimple", in the case of such raids, we don't even sweat. By the way, the word from Greek is a normal person (layman)
      17. 0
        7 October 2016 09: 29
        It seems like a Jew, he must be smart, well, our couch strategists played in computer games in childhood. Can you even imagine what a massive nuclear strike is? This is precisely what this is about, like in the 14th year, no one wanted to fight, the WWII began.
        In big cities, there will be no chance to survive, and whoever survives will envy the dead, you must understand this all, and do not measure your pussy here. The world, now, is on the verge. And no one will predict the consequences of such a catastrophe.
        The fact that ours are not conducted like a hunchback is right, apparently, the Americans decided to go all-in, but I would very much like it to be a bluff ........
      18. +6
        7 October 2016 09: 36
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is quite possible, only a game with one goal, it is only in the dreams of senior students. Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

        If a blow is delivered to the Russian base, then all that threatens it, respectively, will be destroyed. all airfields and military facilities of Israel will be destroyed by naval and air-launched cruise missiles; everything is in sight in contrast to the terrorists who have no infrastructure as such .. Accordingly, after that Israel will be defenseless before its numerous enemies neighbors .. It is clear that the largest Israeli Air Force in the region will be able to sink some kind of ships, but is it worth it that eventually disappear from the world map ..
        1. +3
          7 October 2016 13: 27
          Quote: DEfindER
          If a blow is delivered to the Russian base, then all that threatens it, respectively, will be destroyed. all airfields and military facilities of Israel will be destroyed by naval and air-launched cruise missiles; everything is in sight in contrast to the terrorists who have no infrastructure as such .. Accordingly, after that Israel will be defenseless before its numerous enemies neighbors .. It is clear that the largest Israeli Air Force in the region will be able to sink some kind of ships, but is it worth it that eventually disappear from the world map ..


          Hardly. Most likely, diplomatic racing would have begun to and fro. Just because before a deliberate attack on the Russian base there must be a very long chain of events.

          In addition - it is unlikely. If only because smart people are sitting here and there. In Russia, I understand that Israel has the strongest regional army (and one of the largest air forces in the world, which are only two-and-a-half times behind the Russian air force). In addition, in which case the United States will be pinned for Israel. In Israel, they are well aware that Russia is Russia, with its regional interests, and soberly assess the situation.
        2. 0
          9 September 2017 23: 34
          What do you really think that we will attack the Russian base without 100 trump cards up your sleeve?
      19. +3
        7 October 2016 09: 44
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        and next time they’ll go to the target not just one but a hundred

        Yeah .... lol "And clouds of Jewish planes and missiles will fill the entire sky of the Middle East, and the harsh Jewish punishment will befall everyone ... wassat .... and on earth, countless hordes of the promised Jewish army will go into battle fellow " lol lol lol
      20. 0
        7 October 2016 09: 45
        Your comment gives cheers to patriotism not less than the rest ....
      21. +1
        7 October 2016 11: 10
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is quite possible, only a game with one goal, it is only in the dreams of senior students. Well, the air defense of the Russian Federation will shoot down an Israeli plane, and next time not one but a hundred will go to the target. And even losing a dozen will turn your air defense positions into scorched earth due to the Delilah air-to-ground missiles.

        How many airfields do you have? And at what distance are critical infrastructure facilities?
      22. +2
        7 October 2016 12: 01
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well, besides the gap in diplomatic relations can happen? Our economic ties are not great. We survive.

        It may happen that such a wave of anti-Semitism flares up in Russia that even in distant Israel it will not seem a little to you, especially since Russian Jews, to put it mildly, "earning" money here, then withdraw them to Israel, spending there and not with us.
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        So Messrs. Couch heroes can now guess why the deputy ogsh of the Russian Federation has flown to Israel four times over the past year

        But why did your Israeli prime minister and president go to Moscow for half a year to be dispensed with? Vladimir Putin summoned them for "suggestion" lol
        Warriors "cardboard" you from Hezbollah from Lebanon skedaddle trembling with fear laughing
        1. +1
          8 October 2016 06: 20
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Warriors "cardboard" you from Hezbollah from Lebanon skedaddle trembling with fear

          Well yes! And in front of Hezbollah, Vatnik is on a dashing horse!
  11. +3
    7 October 2016 07: 07
    We must behave decently and we will not shoot down your planes. I reported where, why, and if ours is allowed then fly.
    1. +5
      7 October 2016 07: 25
      Quote: Alexander 3
      We must behave decently and we will not shoot down your planes. I reported where, why, and if ours is allowed then fly.


      Watch carefully. Touring in BV is not a trifle in the trams of tying in Grozny. many different armies were here, but most did not last long.
      the place is hot, Arabs are specific people, Nile fever again.
      1. +16
        7 October 2016 07: 29
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Watch carefully. Touring in BV is not a trifle in the trams of tying in Grozny. many different armies were here, but most did not last long.

        Exclusivity does not press?
        1. +4
          7 October 2016 08: 46
          Quote: insular
          Exclusivity does not press?

          Exclusivity rushing out of some comments! smile
          1. +8
            7 October 2016 09: 05
            The bayonet that again offended relatives from Israel? wassat
            1. +1
              7 October 2016 09: 56
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              The bayonet that again offended relatives from Israel?

              You write less of this - you will look smarter! wink
      2. +11
        7 October 2016 07: 42
        And you try to steal something in Grozny, it’s not for you to scare Arabs.
        1. +3
          7 October 2016 10: 44
          Well against the backdrop of a bayonet, it's easy to be smart!
          1. +1
            8 October 2016 06: 03
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            Well against the backdrop of a bayonet, it's easy to be smart!

            You are not threatened laughing hi
      3. +8
        7 October 2016 07: 45
        Watch carefully. Touring in BV is not a trifle in the trams of tying in Grozny. many different armies were here, but most did not last long.

        While in the world there is only one place where the armies did not linger ... This is Russia. And BV, well, how can I tell you who will put BV like BV and have it .................................
      4. +5
        7 October 2016 08: 05
        What is so all belligerent in the morning? And about a trifle in Grozny you my friend in vain. Fair.
      5. +9
        7 October 2016 09: 00
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        It’s not a trifle to tour in BV on trams in Grozny.

        And you dear, try yourself first to trifle a trifle in Grozny, but then you will express your sarcasm, if it is something like a colleague, let's not measure who is cooler, will get EVERYTHING and not sickly, does anyone need this? Do the Israelis do what they ask guarantees, but they also need to inform us. hi
    2. +5
      7 October 2016 08: 38
      Quote: Alexander 3
      We must behave decently and we will not shoot down your planes. I reported where, why, and if ours is allowed then fly.

      Not this way . We reported, you were convinced that it was our Air Force and soothed our eyes.
      1. +3
        7 October 2016 09: 34
        Eka drags you .... laughing
      2. +1
        7 October 2016 09: 45
        And you are a provocateur, my friend. You know perfectly well that you are talking dangerous nonsense, but you continue to "incite". A trifle in Grozny is generally from the area of ​​prohibited techniques. People, don't react, this is a typical troll. And is it the same flag on the friend's avatar? The Radio Liberty logo or censor would be more suitable for you. no
  12. +6
    7 October 2016 07: 10
    Earlier, some Israeli citizens claimed that the Russian S-300B4 had no reason to fear, because "They didn’t shoot down a single plane." Apparently, the command has a different opinion.

    The command does not want to be "pioneers", and rightly so ...
  13. +11
    7 October 2016 07: 12
    But why do Jewish planes periodically violate the airspace in Syria? Why doesn’t Israel bomb terrorists in Syria? On the contrary, does it prevent the Syrian army from killing militants? I even admit that Syrian bandits are being treated in Israel. wink
    1. +3
      7 October 2016 08: 08
      their principle is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I am completely sure that this is so - they are fostering barmaley, treating, teaching.
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  15. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 15
    In my opinion, everything is simple - the Israelis submit a request for flights, indicate the goals, time and so on. Ours are considering and either permitting, but under the control of the stations, or refusing. Here are guarantees and joint work ... And what else do they want? And we are calm because the pilots try not to make "annoying mistakes".
    1. +1
      7 October 2016 07: 33
      Golan Heights (Hebrew רָמַת הַגוֹלָן, Arabic. هضبة الجولان) is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel. From 1944 to 1967, it was part of the Syrian province of Quneitra, captured by Israel during the Six Day War.

      In 1981, the Israeli Knesset passed the Golan Heights Act, where Israel unilaterally proclaimed the sovereignty of Israel over this territory. The annexation was invalidated by UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981.

      Both Israel and Syria consider the Golan Heights part of their territory.
  16. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 17
    We are waiting for comments, many and different, from different angles so to speak! Where is my popcorn?
  17. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 18
    Americans are often mistaken, ours have never been. I'll have to try it!
  18. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 23
    There will be no mistakes as soon as you stop bombing Syria! They went there with their specialty and let them hammer precisely those who carry out shelling in Israel — that is, provocateurs sent in, including from yours and the militants.
  19. +3
    7 October 2016 07: 26
    (and almost always exclusively the position of the government army)

    Of course, guarantees can be given, but subject to refusal to strike at government troops.
    Some Israeli citizens claimed that there was no reason to fear the Russian S-300B4, as “They didn’t bring down a single plane”

    For such citizens, everything is Russian DOE, but for them in the United States it is. With their leaky "Dome" they are worn like with a written sack.
  20. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 26
    You write when scared! And then indestructible! Here is a check for lice.
  21. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 29
    Given it was, Tel Aviv said that the C300 is destroyed by Jewish weapons, no problem. apparently bluffing.
  22. +1
    7 October 2016 07: 44
    Earlier, some Israeli citizens claimed that the Russian S-300B4 had no reason to fear, because "They didn’t shoot down a single plane."
    ------------------------------
    Eh hehe ... And we at VO even know these people by name.: =)
  23. +8
    7 October 2016 07: 50
    What were God's chosen slaves scared of? It is only in Palestine that women and children can be bombarded without fear. What did the Jews forget in Syria? Shoot down unambiguously! The same frostbitten as Americans.
    1. +4
      7 October 2016 20: 11
      Quote: Utlan
      What were God's chosen slaves scared of? It is only in Palestine that women and children can be bombarded without fear. What did the Jews forget in Syria? Shoot down unambiguously!


      Terrible You clatter clave however easy.
      write a better case.
  24. +5
    7 October 2016 07: 50
    I would add a second heading for VO: "Yes There Will Be Srach".
  25. 0
    7 October 2016 07: 55
    Slogan 345 ZRB (USSR) ---- "We don't fly ourselves and we don't let others fly"
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    1. 0
      7 October 2016 15: 50
      Quote from rudolf
      Maybe the Golan would return someday.

      Well, of course. So the Jews will give you what fell into their paws. This is where you saw such Jews?
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      1. +2
        7 October 2016 20: 05
        Quote from rudolf
        Remember Sinai. After signing a peace treaty, Israel returned the peninsula to Egypt. But there is a canal, not only a desert.

        There before the fig minerals, fertile land and resorts
      2. +1
        7 October 2016 20: 05
        Quote from rudolf
        Remember Sinai. After signing a peace treaty, Israel returned the peninsula to Egypt. But there is a canal, not only a desert.

        And in 2004-m out of the Gaza Strip
  27. +5
    7 October 2016 07: 56
    Now it will become clear how much Putin is ready to use these complexes to protect our interests ... If the Jews bargain for permission, then this is all just another talk about the decision to shoot down missiles and other UFOs
  28. +1
    7 October 2016 08: 05
    Simply put, Israel fears that if the missiles from the country's air force planes fly towards the position of the Syrian forces, then C-300В4 or С-400 will “not like it” ...

    So what's the problem? Answer adequately. Are Israeli planes flying to bomb Syria in response to Israeli bombing by the Syrian Air Force?
    Israel’s request is of course official, but at the same time provocative. Since if ours will shoot everything in a row, then there have been cases of an airborne flight of the Russian Aerospace Forces into Israel. No matter how it happened with Turkey.
    1. 0
      7 October 2016 09: 03
      Already the Turks explained that the pilots themselves decided to attack our plane. Because they are radishes
      1. +3
        7 October 2016 22: 05
        Quote: Monarchist
        Already the Turks explained that the pilots themselves decided to attack our plane. Because they are radishes

        decisions of this kind are always made upstairs. just Erdogan lied, dumping everything on the pilots, and Putin pretended to believe.
  29. +1
    7 October 2016 08: 05
    Konashenkov is a general, a military man, but sometimes he speaks like a seasoned politician: the range of our air defense systems "can become a surprise" (there was already a surprise with the range of "calibers") and invisible only on paper invisible (more likely invisible for American taxpayers).
  30. +10
    7 October 2016 08: 07
    comrades from Israel, I wonder why you are tearing your ass for the Ishilovites so much, and why are you fighting against Assad?
    1. +4
      7 October 2016 08: 40
      There is little Jewish territory of Palestine, so they are joking. Shoot down all the fuck!
    2. +5
      7 October 2016 12: 07
      Quote: Kostya Andreev

      comrades from Israel, I wonder why you are tearing your ass for the Ishilovites so much, and why are you fighting against Assad?

      Because Israel is ISIS.
    3. +3
      7 October 2016 22: 06
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      comrades from Israel, I wonder why you are tearing your ass for the Ishilovites so much, and why are you fighting against Assad?

      Iran
      1. +1
        7 October 2016 22: 11
        So you probably need to put up with Iran, and not support the hordes of bearded killers?
        Maybe we should find common ground with Lebanon, and finally come to an agreement with the Palestinians?
        Give the Golan to the Syrians. With appropriate guarantees, like the ATS, is it also possible through the mediation of Russia, and not America, hardly anyone will listen?
        Or you have a syndrome of a besieged fortress like Mossad, where everyone killed themselves, and the latter went to serve Rome.
        If so, then obviously you have a choice not of Rome, but of Carthage, but then it was destroyed even before the line when, and now it risks to be defeated.
  31. PKK
    0
    7 October 2016 08: 11
    Quote: slavinsk
    The territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel. From 1944 to 1967, it was part of the Syrian province of Quneitra, captured by Israel during the Six Day War.

    And they will return the Heights as a result of a one-day war, Time is limited by the passage of TsU Nami (Tsui with us) from the sea, through the whole promised Earth.
  32. +1
    7 October 2016 08: 13
    The dirty tricks will begin.
  33. HAM
    +5
    7 October 2016 08: 13
    Dear forum users, in vain you are trying to convince all sorts of Maki and Aarons, their task is to show that of all the Jews they are the most Jewish, like all emigrants from the USSR.ROOR ISRAELISTS DO NOT MISS UP TO SUCH STUPPIES, at least they are trying to come to an agreement.
    1. +2
      7 October 2016 13: 26
      I apologize, and who are the indigenous people there? Are these ex-Palestinians or what? Arabs are not Jews, our God-chosen ones from the site will confirm this to you.
      1. HAM
        0
        7 October 2016 14: 45
        No apologies, people born in Israel consider themselves to be indigenous .., and emigrants, they will always be emigrants.
  34. 0
    7 October 2016 08: 21
    gentlemen of Israel - we act on the principle - whoever didn’t hide, I’m not to blame !!!!
  35. +3
    7 October 2016 08: 21
    Do not fly where you are not called. And you will be happy. Arrange with Assad.
    And if you attack government troops instead of barmaleys, then the answer will definitely come.
  36. +2
    7 October 2016 08: 33
    Guys, they clearly told you that the air defense will not have time to understand whose plane is approaching our places of deployment. The wreckage, of course, will be returned, in which case. hi
  37. 0
    7 October 2016 08: 37
    Lizobludy were noted.
  38. +4
    7 October 2016 08: 38
    With the same success, Israel can now be bombed, just as Israel is bombing Syria. You can always find any reason for this.
    In addition, Israel for a long time captures the territory of Palestine. If it weren’t for mattress covers, Israel would have long been wiped out of Palestine.
  39. +4
    7 October 2016 08: 45
    In fact, only the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian Air Force can legally fly over the territory of Syria. So that
    And then am
  40. 0
    7 October 2016 08: 54
    Soon they will start asking for permission to depart .................
  41. +4
    7 October 2016 08: 55
    Want a joke, in the morning it occurred to me:
    The reaction of the allies to the deployment of s-300:
    Jews (quickly from the morning) - asked for guarantees,
    Americans (perplexedly-arrogant), but for sho?
    Germans (suddenly) At the Incirlik base in Turkey, all German fighter jets failed
  42. 0
    7 October 2016 08: 57
    Gentlemen Mitek and Vladimirets, you are already working at the Israeli General Staff: if you plan mass air strikes?
  43. +6
    7 October 2016 08: 58
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    It is quite possible, only a one-goal game is she only in the dreams of high school students. Well, the Israeli aircraft will be shot down by the Russian air defense, and the next time they will go to the target not just one but a hundred ....


    Exclusivity will not bring to the end ... more precisely, it didn’t bring anyone .... They won’t have time to take off ... and indeed there’s no place to take off after the information from the readiness to take off hundreds of planes ... All your moves are clearly visible in the desert.
  44. +2
    7 October 2016 09: 15
    Warranties can be given, but with the condition that the Israeli Air Force planes will not take off flights directed against parts of the Russian Federation and the Syrian government forces, warning that if Israel does not keep his words, military and economic measures will follow. If the Israeli Air Force is going to bomb IS, interacting with the Russian Air Force, let them bomb, and if not, Israel has nothing to do in Syria.
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  46. +2
    7 October 2016 09: 33
    From Latakia to Gollan 300 km with a vertical drop of 10 m in Latakia to 600-800 meters in the latter. Given the physics of the propagation of p \ waves, the C300 radar is unlikely to even be able to view the Gollan. If only objects at high altitudes from a few kilometers. Correct me if not so ....
    1. +3
      7 October 2016 10: 04
      Not just the Golan. And over Damascus, the S-300, located by the sea, is not effective.
      If they wanted to scare the Americans, they would place the S-300 in the hills near Damascus,
      where is all the living Syrian air defense.
      1. +2
        7 October 2016 10: 10
        Quote: voyaka uh
        If they wanted to scare the Americans, they would place the S-300 in the hills near Damascus,
        where is all the living Syrian air defense.

        Lesha, who puts all the eggs in one basket?
  47. +6
    7 October 2016 09: 41
    The Israeli military asked the Russian Defense Ministry for guarantees in connection with the deployment of air defense systems in Syria

    What guarantees are we talking about?
    Everyone knows that Jewish planes are attacking the positions of the Syrian government forces, and now what can we guarantee that they do not get a return flop? So, it seems that the complexes were brought in to shorten the zealous. Moreover, several years ago, in the vastness of the military, our Israeli opponents foaming at their mouths shouted that all the parameters of the S-300 antennas had been sketched long ago, that the countermeasures had been prepared and that they were "not afraid of the gray wolf," that is, the bear. In nature, it turned out not at all as it had been imagined? laughing
  48. +5
    7 October 2016 09: 43
    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    it’s like the Russian VKS in Syria officially, but what are they doing on the territory of a foreign state of Israel? belay

    Protect your interests. How do Russian troops in Ukraine.
    1. +6
      7 October 2016 09: 49
      Where does this statement come from? What is your evidence? Or so they write in the press and speak at a briefing in the white house and we take their word for it? Won Waltzmann, then 300 thousand, then 30 thousand constantly imagines.
      1. +2
        7 October 2016 11: 41
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Protect your interests. How do Russian troops in Ukraine.


        Quote: Trigger-Happy
        Where does this statement come from? What is your evidence? Or so they write in the press and speak at a briefing in the white house and we take their word for it? Won Waltzmann, then 300 thousand, then 30 thousand constantly imagines.


        Do not pay attention, there is nothing to say to the gentleman from Israel, so he switched to provocations ..
        Or maybe he went to the Donbass counted Russian troops?
    2. +4
      7 October 2016 14: 31
      Aron Zawi, so you have discovered your real liquid face! laughing Can you remind me when the Russian Air Force struck at Ukraine? belay
    3. 0
      7 October 2016 15: 03
      Yeah. What is there to hide, both in Russia and Ukraine, Israel has its own great interests.
    4. 0
      13 October 2016 07: 57
      And the S-300 and S-400 in Syria will defend the interests of Russia, so I will quote the Ukrainian proverb - "Don't be happy", which is consonant with an obscene wish, the meaning of which is that there is absolutely no need for Israeli aircraft to fly where they were not invited.
  49. +3
    7 October 2016 09: 46
    "To put it simply, Israel fears that if missiles from the country's Air Force planes fly towards the positions of the Syrian troops, then the S-300B4 or S-400" may not like it. "
    Do not fly in the direction of the Syrian forces, fly in the direction of the barmalei and everything will be fine. The logic is simple and straightforward, but for those who have problems with logic, the medicine S-300 and S-400
  50. +3
    7 October 2016 09: 52
    Aron Zawi Today, 08:35 ↑ ↓
    How many millions of Russians will die for this?
    The Russian army warned the slow-witted. The arrogant Aron of the coast lost: “How many millions of Russians will die for this”? Live peacefully and do not support terrorists. Israel and the Jews do not bother me. Available?
    1. +3
      7 October 2016 15: 37
      Quote: Grandfather Micah
      Live peacefully and do not support terrorists.

      Is it really done in Israel? smile
      1. +2
        8 October 2016 14: 50
        bayonet you as a patriot of Israel apparently do not know that Kalashnikov products are produced in many countries of the world lol In many countries, the Kalashnikov assault rifle is being illegally manufactured. Officially, it is produced in 12 countries, and it is impossible to count illegal producers. Most foreign fakes are much worse in quality, and discredit the work of Russian gunsmiths. At almost any exhibition, Russian representatives have to make complaints to foreign manufacturers about the fake Soviet weapons! You already look like a cheap provocateur! hi
  51. +9
    7 October 2016 10: 00
    Это соглашение взаимовыгодно. Самолеты ВКС тоже иногда входят в зону действия
    израильского ПВО. Даже пролетали над Голанами. Их не стали сбивать. Ненужные инциденты - зачем они?
  52. +2
    7 October 2016 10: 08
    что ж израильским воякам-летунам нужно понять ,что их безнаказанность закончилась, русские вернулись !
    1. +2
      7 October 2016 14: 24
      Quote: vladimirw
      что ж израильским воякам-летунам нужно понять ,что их безнаказанность закончилась, русские вернулись !

      Куда вернулись? На свою историческую родину ? wassat
      1. 0
        7 October 2016 17: 53
        Quote: Bayonet
        Куда вернулись? На свою историческую родину ?

        smile https://topwar.ru/86140-rus-izvechnaya.html
    2. +1
      7 October 2016 18: 16
      Quote: vladimirw
      что ж израильским воякам-летунам нужно понять ,что их безнаказанность закончилась, русские вернулись !

      Вы пока еще тут и никуда не вернулись. Наверное потому что грозить с дивана безопаснее. Это ж не в Сирии Алеппо штурмовать. Успокойтесь вы все наконец воинствующие старички. laughing
  53. +2
    7 October 2016 10: 13
    Обсуждать можно долго, обсасывая израильскую просьбу со всех сторон.
    Но мне кажется, российским МО ответ был уже дан, так сказать, авансом. За точность цитаты не поручусь (искать лень), но прозвучало что-то вроде: "У нашего ПВО не будет времени разбираться, то там в нашу сторону летит..". ИМХО, вполне исчерпывающе.
  54. 0
    7 October 2016 10: 16
    Гарантии бог даёт! И то не всегда и не всем!
  55. +2
    7 October 2016 10: 42
    Есть только одна гарантия - не пересечение границ Сирии для ведения боевых действий на ее территории.В противном случае ВКС РФ и Сирии должны иметь право добивать боевиков на территории Израиля - в любом месте по своему усмотрению .( тот же принцип, то же самое как действует Израиль )Когда террористы обстреливают Израильтян с Сирийской территории - вполне можно решить этот вопрос совместными усилиями Нужно только желание .
    .Если же Израиль не готов к таким договоренностям и совместным действиям для защиты своих граждан , то тут только один ответ - ему нужен повод для военного вмешательства во внутренние дела Сирии .
  56. +2
    7 October 2016 10: 53
    А я во думаю не плохо было быв Сирию искандеры в экспортном варианте поставить в омен скажем на часть добытой в будущем их нефти. И да, дать гарантии евреям, не сбивать их самолеты.
    Но в случае прямой агрессии правительственных войск наносить удар искандерами по чувствительным областям Израильской промышленности. Я к евреям нейтрален, но в последнее время наглеют ребята. А по большому мне их жаль. Они существуют пока ести гигимон, в случае его ухода, суждено им пережить еще одину хорошую трепку.
    1. +7
      7 October 2016 11: 26
      ." А по большому мне их жаль. "////

      Жалеть надо тех, у кого "денег нет" smile
      "Хорошего Вам настроения" - как говорил один премьер wink
      1. +2
        7 October 2016 18: 00
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Жалеть надо тех, у кого "денег нет"

        Всегда ли наличие денег признак счастья?
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "Хорошего Вам настроения"

        Вы там тоже держитесь. smile
  57. +2
    7 October 2016 11: 19
    Перестаньте бомбить - и будет вам счастье
    1. +2
      7 October 2016 15: 21
      Quote: elenagromova
      Перестаньте бомбить - и будет вам счастье

      Кто ? Бомбят там сирийцы, наши и коалиция во главе с США. Так кому счастье будет? sad
    2. +2
      7 October 2016 16: 09
      Quote: elenagromova
      Перестаньте бомбить - и будет вам счастье

      Если Израиль перестанет бомбить правительственную армию Сирии кто же будет поддерживать выкормышей Вашингтона и Тель-Авива - террористов, с воздуха?
      1. +1
        7 October 2016 17: 40
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Если Израиль перестанет бомбить правительственную армию Сирии

        А что, сильно бомбит, регулярно залетают на территорию Сирии и бомбят request ? Что то я не в курсе, когда это было в последний раз? Вот и про "израильских выкормышей" террористов только здесь узнал - нигде в наших СМИ этого нет ...странно. Может вы в КНДР живете? recourse
  58. +1
    7 October 2016 11: 24
    The Israeli military asked the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation guarantees in connection with the deployment of the air defense system in Syria

    Гарантий на безнаказанность своих преступлений.
    1. +1
      7 October 2016 17: 47
      Quote: Victor-M
      Victor-M Today, 11:24
      The Israeli military asked the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation guarantees in connection with the deployment of the air defense system in Syria
      Гарантий на безнаказанность своих преступлений.

      Это чтож за преступления? Неужто младенцев на завтрак кушают? bully
      1. +1
        9 October 2016 21: 54
        Иногда бывает ты разве не знал?
  59. +1
    7 October 2016 11: 27
    транспондеры пусть включают и ходят по обозначенным эшелонам, какие проблемы))
  60. 0
    7 October 2016 11: 27
    В случае атаки на базы РФ, янкам без израильтян никак не обойтись.
  61. +6
    7 October 2016 11: 27
    стремно "цивилизованным" авиаторам работать там, где ответка прилететь может))
  62. -1
    7 October 2016 11: 42
    Quote: Stas157
    In other words, the Israeli military asked Putin to continue to bomb freely Assad’s friendly troops, which of course they were allowed to!

    Кто же им разрешил? Очень хочется узнать.
    Не надо тут свои всёпропальные хотелки озвучивать.
    Вот разрешат, тогда и войте сколько угодно.
    1. 0
      7 October 2016 14: 32
      Quote: Mestny
      Кто же им разрешил? Очень хочется узнать

      Как кто? Stas157 разрешил -
      In other words, the Israeli military asked Putin to continue to bomb freely Assad’s friendly troops, which of course they were allowed to!

      Правда Путин об этом - ни слухом ни духом, но наверно и Stasа достаточно wink
  63. 0
    7 October 2016 12: 03
    uncle Murzik,

    У государства с названием Израиль есть спорные с Сирией территории.

    Скорее всего соглашение будет распространятся над этими территориями.
  64. +3
    7 October 2016 12: 37
    Нашу решимость снова начинают размывать по мелочам. Что здесь согласовывать? Что скрывается под такой просьбой? Уверенность евреев в своём праве бомбить сирийцев и требование к нам согласиться с этими правами. Не летайте над чужой территорией, не пускайте по ней ракет - и не потребуется ничего согласовывать. А после первого же ракетного пуска по сирийцам, даже если самолёт был над территорией Израиля, любой взлетающий истребитель будет считаться угрозой... Вот как надо ответить, а не режимы нападений на сирийскую территорию согласовывать.
  65. +7
    7 October 2016 13: 04
    Quote: quilted jacket

    Warriors "cardboard" you from Hezbollah from Lebanon skedaddle trembling with fear laughing

    Ага. Поэтому Хезбалла уже больше 10 лет, как шелковая. кстати дань Кадырову, когда платить перестанете? А то как не помиотришь ваше ТВ, дороги разбиты, медецина убита, а Кадыров своим абрекам Кувейт строит за счет федерального бюджета.
    1. +3
      7 October 2016 13: 41
      У вас, кроме как за Чечню другие аргументы имеются? И за дань - цифры в студию, откуда деньги. Повторяю совет - меньше внимайте западным СМИ. А то и у вас кругом Путин виноват будет.
    2. +2
      7 October 2016 18: 05
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Ага. Поэтому Хезбалла уже больше 10 лет, как шелковая. кстати дань Кадырову, когда платить перестанете? А то как не помиотришь ваше ТВ, дороги разбиты, медецина убита, а Кадыров своим абрекам Кувейт строит за счет федерального бюджета.

      Арон может хватит? Зачем вы бензина в костер подливаете?
  66. +2
    7 October 2016 13: 15
    Bayonet,
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: quilted jacket
    террористы и есть порождение израильского режима

    Ватник, он и в Израиле ватник

    Цеж Вассерман на фото...
    1. 0
      7 October 2016 19: 36
      Бородой не вышел.
  67. +2
    7 October 2016 14: 18
    Гарантий? Хм, а, что иудейский бог не в силах гарантировать? Молитесь больше, вот мои гарантии laughing
  68. +1
    7 October 2016 14: 41
    Закрыть воздушное пространство над территориями контролируемыми войсками САР и жестко предупредить о последствиях его нарушения, ибо любители пошакалить уже начинают искать "лазейки".
  69. 0
    7 October 2016 14: 56
    Чем С-300 "страшнее" С-400? Думаю, это значит, что прежние договорённости в новых условиях действие прекратил, кому надо, тот сигнал должен был принять.
    1. 0
      7 October 2016 15: 20
      Quote: iouris
      Чем С-300 "страшнее" С-400? Думаю, это значит, что прежние договорённости в новых условиях действие прекратил, кому надо, тот сигнал должен был принять.

      С-400 вводили против турок, а нынешний С-300 явно против США. Поэтому-то и всколыхнулись! bully hi
      А по большому счёту ведь ничего не поменялось, и слишком уж сильно этот С-300 нашу ПВО там не усилил. Yes
  70. +2
    7 October 2016 15: 23
    Aron Zaavi,
    Зачем? Мы предпочитаем строить нормальную страну.
    - мы тоже. Только вот приходится защищаться от варваров. Ну не любят русских, хоть убей. То ли из-за территории, то ли из-за того, что не даем другие страны уничтожать... Не понятно.

    Вы сверх держава? Знаете смотрю я через ютуб "Салтыков-Щедрин шоу" и как то сомневаюсь.
    - ваше право. Но для меня мнение Израиля на уровне Уганды - как-то пофиг. Меньше смотрите всякие шоу - отупляют.
    1. +4
      7 October 2016 15: 32
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      - ваше право. Но для меня мнение Израиля на уровне Уганды - как-то пофиг. Меньше смотрите всякие шоу - отупляют.

      Ага , но лечиться именно росияне ездят в Израиль , а не наоборот. И БЛА вы у нас покупали, а мы у вас только сырую нефть.
      1. +2
        7 October 2016 16: 01
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Ага , но лечиться именно росияне ездят в Израиль

        Может не россияне а богатые евреи из России?
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        И БЛА вы у нас покупали

        Нашёл чем гордится laughing
        БПЛА у Израиля покупал министр обороны Сердюков известный у нас в России как "табуреткин" и закупал он древнюю модель по всей видимости за большую взятку от израильских евреев и скорее всего в ущерб нашему государству.
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Ага. Поэтому Хезбалла уже больше 10 лет, как шелковая.

        Да-да-да десять лет а кто же не так давно в январе 2015 года израильскому режиму очередного пинка дал? smile

        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        кстати дань Кадырову, когда платить перестанете?

        Видать ты забыл как этот самый Кадыров в Израиле мечеть построил? Говорят в её постройке и правительство Израиля участвовало.
        Видать готовит своих воинов на всякий случай.
        мало ли что в Израиле может случится может начнут арабскую Палестину от оккупантов евреев освобождать.
        Правильно Арон? lol
        Ramzan Kadyrov opens a mosque in Israel in honor of his father Akhmat-Haji Kadyrov.
      2. +1
        7 October 2016 16: 44
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        treatment
        - я не спорю, медицина у вас отличная, беспилотнки лучшие - вот и все, что у вас есть! Вы зависите от все и вся - какие вы автомобили производите? В космос на чьих ракетах летаете? А авиация у вас чья? Вы regional держава, не больше. И не надо сомневаться в РФ. Не надо забывать, что мы остановили уничтожение Сирии. Кто еще способен остановить США? Какая региональная держава на это способна?
        Yours!
        1. +5
          7 October 2016 17: 27
          Quote: Dazdranagon
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          treatment
          - я не спорю, медицина у вас отличная, беспилотнки лучшие - вот и все, что у вас есть! Вы зависите от все и вся - какие вы автомобили производите? В космос на чьих ракетах летаете? А авиация у вас чья? Вы regional держава, не больше. И не надо сомневаться в РФ. Не надо забывать, что мы остановили уничтожение Сирии. Кто еще способен остановить США? Какая региональная держава на это способна?
          Yours!

          Ну да . Медицина, электроника, фармакология, с/х, водосберегающие технологии и т/д. Повторяю мы не собирвемся реализовывать теорию "чучхе" или выдумывать колесо. Наше правительство не имеет права за счет народа реализовывать амбициозные проекты, которые отрицательно скажутся на уровне жизни граждан. Вы сверхдержава? Флаг вам в руки. Летайте в космос вместо того что бы прокладывать дороги, бодайтесь с Китаем и США-кто круче. Мне важнее здоровье и счастье моих близких, а не то что бы они гордились проектом из-за которого деньги на лечение нужно будет собирать с шапкой по кругу.
          1. 0
            7 October 2016 17: 41
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Наше правительство не имеет права за счет народа реализовывать амбициозные проекты, которые отрицательно скажутся на уровне жизни граждан
            - это что по вашему так реализуется в РФ?

            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            вместо того что бы прокладывать дороги
            - прокладываем. Только у нас страна чуть больше, чем у вас, поэтому и темпы такие.

            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            бодайтесь с Китаем и США
            - ты думаешь нам хочется с ними бодаться? Наивный. Поучи историю, прежде чем писать бред.

            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Мне важнее здоровье и счастье моих близких,
            - поэтому вы заперлись в своем Израиле и не помогаете уничтожать террористов, которые орудуют у вас по носом? Или вы их спонсируете, что уверены, что они к вам не полезут? Вы как карасики из басни, спрятались в домик, а вокруг война... Думаешь до вас не дойдет, если Сирия падет?
    2. 0
      7 October 2016 18: 01
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Ну не любят русских, хоть убей.Не понятно.

      Sorry ... lol
  71. 0
    7 October 2016 15: 44
    В данном случае гарантии должны быть обоюдными - не летай над Сирией и не обстреливай объекты сирийской армии - не будешь сбит.
  72. +1
    7 October 2016 15: 46
    Quote: Dazdranagon
    Aron Zaavi,
    Зачем? Мы предпочитаем строить нормальную страну.
    - мы тоже. Только вот приходится защищаться от варваров. Ну не любят русских, хоть убей. То ли из-за территории, то ли из-за того, что не даем другие страны уничтожать... Не понятно.

    Вы сверх держава? Знаете смотрю я через ютуб "Салтыков-Щедрин шоу" и как то сомневаюсь.
    - ваше право. Но для меня мнение Израиля на уровне Уганды - как-то пофиг. Меньше смотрите всякие шоу - отупляют.

    Кто контролирует ведущие мировые СМИ и тем самым формирует общественное мнение и влияет на политику?Кроме того,у Израиля появились месторождения газа и таки не маленьких обьемов. А Израиль продинамил п и н д о с и ю и подписал договор о добыче с Газпромом. Так что,несмотря на Ваше мнение, правительство России отнесеться к мнению Израиля более чем серьезно
    1. +1
      7 October 2016 16: 46
      Quote: Bradypodidae
      Так что,несмотря на Ваше мнение, правительство России отнесеться к мнению Израиля более чем серьезно
      - хотелось бы от Израиля, чтобы он прекратил шакальи авиаудары по правительственным войскам Сирии. Обстреляли территорию - так разберись кто сначала!
      1. +1
        8 October 2016 00: 18
        Я не защищаю Израиль.Просто когда Россия только начинала вмешиваться в сирийский конфликт,Израиль прямым текстом сказал,что оставляет за собой право наносить удары для предотвращения попадания Хезболле более так сказать "тяжелого" оружия.РФ Хезболле оружие не поставляет,а армия Сирии была не раз замечена на этом. И потом,сравните реакцию РФ на бомбежку ВВС п и н д о с и и, и бомбежку ВВС Израиля. Реакции почти что нет. Значит можно предположить что Сирийцам опять дали по рукам и обломили "бизнес" с оружием?Как бы нам не хотелось обратного,но для Израиля,собственная безопасность почему то важнее,чем безопасность Сирийской армии.
  73. +1
    7 October 2016 15: 58
    мы тут немножко побомбим.. нам же нужно тоже где то тренировать военных... а вы нас часом не сбейте! -договорились....а то как то боязно под прицелом летать
  74. +1
    7 October 2016 17: 33
    не летайте где нужно и целы будете
    1. +1
      7 October 2016 18: 04
      Quote: Cyril750
      не летайте где нужно и целы будете

      А где летать - где не нужно? laughing
  75. +2
    7 October 2016 18: 35
    what Не думал, что на сайте пасётся столько дeбилoв - антисемитов.
    Админы! Верните ЧС!!! В глазах рябит от словесного поноса.
  76. 0
    7 October 2016 18: 45
    The Israeli military asked the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation guarantees in connection with the deployment of the air defense system in Syria
    Ну какие, ребят, гарантии, нам их тоже никто не даёт! soldier
  77. +1
    7 October 2016 19: 00
    Quote: Yak28
    But why do Jewish planes periodically violate the airspace in Syria? Why doesn’t Israel bomb terrorists in Syria? On the contrary, does it prevent the Syrian army from killing militants? I even admit that Syrian bandits are being treated in Israel. wink

    Я не удивился что на мой вопрос не ответил ни один еврей,которых на сайте не мало wink
  78. +1
    7 October 2016 19: 28
    Нужно дать представителям Израиля 100 % гарантию, что любой самолёт осуществляющий бомбардировку сирийских правительственных войск будет сбит, возможно эта гарантия им нужна, т.к в ТТХ С 300 гарантия 99,9 по вероятному проценту поражения воздушных целей.
    1. +4
      7 October 2016 19: 57
      "т.к в ТТХ С 300 гарантия 99,9 по вероятному проценту поражения воздушных целей"/////

      Наши хитрые цели как-раз в том 0,1 проценте. wink
  79. +4
    7 October 2016 22: 04
    Смотри-ка, непобедимые кошерные ВВС на Фу-35 боятся ошибок со стороны российской военной техники? Т.е., совсем случайно могут попасть? А вы не летайте!
    Тут давеча Вояка расписывал, якой вумный этот Фу-35, что русской техники бояться нечего.
    Но, видимо, страх перед неразумной техникой все же выше.
  80. +1
    7 October 2016 23: 29
    Да кто им станет давать такие гарантии?
    Что бы потом израильские самолеты спокойно наших бомбили?
    Нефиг лезть на территорию Сирии и проблем не будет.
  81. 0
    8 October 2016 00: 21
    Quote: Bayonet
    Неужто это в Израиле сделали?

    И таки шо? АК в разных версиях производится по всему миру, более полусотни лет уже, сотнями тысяч экземпляров, общий счет то ли подошел под сотню миллионов, то ли уже перевалил за эту цифру. Они могут оказаться где угодно и у кого угодно.

    Кстати, в Израиле тоже производили клоны АК, под названием "Галил", если кто не в курсе оказался в попытках подлизать задницу богоизбранному народу laughing
    1. 0
      8 October 2016 06: 46
      Quote: murriou
      Кстати, в Израиле тоже производили клоны АК, под названием "Галил", если кто не в курсе оказался в попытках подлизать задницу богоизбранному народу

      Что где производят, очень даже в курсе, а на счет задницу полизать - это к Мурзикам! hi
  82. 0
    8 October 2016 00: 24
    Был такой анекдот. Армянскому радио задают вопрос, какое противозачаточное средство абсолютно надежно? Ответ:
    - пейте томатный сок.
    - О, как здорово! До или после?
    - ВМЕСТО.

    Вот и тут, надо только евреям бросить дурную привычку, не лезть в чужое воздушное пространство с агрессивными намерениями - и будет им гарантия laughing
  83. 0
    8 October 2016 00: 31
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Зачем вы бензина в костер подливаете?

    Оне ж богоизбранные, всегда считают, что им-то за шо, и верят, что пока весь мир будет гореть в огне, евреи на этом огоньке привычно погреются.

    Перед ВМВ тоже так думали, и таки погрелась в крематориях парочка миллионов.
    1. 0
      8 October 2016 06: 49
      Quote: murriou
      Оне ж богоизбранные,

      Вы так часто употребляете - богоизбранные, что можно подумать завидуете smile А еще вот это - , и таки погрелась в крематориях парочка миллионов"..подленько как то, глумиться над погибшими от рук фашистов...
      1. +1
        8 October 2016 10: 25
        Над погибшими советскими и русскими гражданами глумиться для вас нормально, ага. Над евреями - низззя! request

        Если кто совсем не понимает по русски, поясняю: речь о двойных стандартах. Израильтяне считают себя вправе делать по отношению к другим то, что по отношению к себе считают неприемлемым.

        А я убежден, что будет абсолютно справедливо, если они получат в полной мере всё то, что творили сами.
        И вернутся в границы 1948 года, а если их это не устраивает - то в границы 1943 года. Так понятнее?
        1. +2
          8 October 2016 15: 08
          Quote: murriou
          Над погибшими советскими и русскими гражданами глумиться для вас нормально,

          Пример приведите, потом будем обсуждать! Врать не хорошо !
  84. 0
    8 October 2016 08: 12
    Да, может не понравиться.
  85. 0
    8 October 2016 14: 54
    Quote: Bayonet
    It was necessary to send a response, quickly and efficiently, if - "the inviolability of our borders" is not just empty words.

    Глупым не прикидывайтесь, ответка была, но не с нашей территории, зачем нам визг свинячий ваших ораторов в СМИ, про российскую агрессию.
    1. +1
      8 October 2016 15: 10
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      зачем нам визг свинячий ваших ораторов в СМИ

      Что значит - "ваших ораторов"? Пока я вижу визг с вашей стороны! Кстати, что это за сторона?
  86. 0
    12 October 2016 21: 17
    Ошибок точно не будет. С300 видит ультоправого неонациста сквозь железо.
  87. 0
    13 October 2016 07: 55
    У Израиля в районе анального отверстия играет злой китайский дух Жим-жим ))) Ничего, сейчас придёт Профессор и расскажет что "ботся нечего, потому что мы и раньше летали над Сирией", расскажет про самую сильную в регионе армию и про "да мы если что и Сирию оккупируем как Ливан и установки похитим и увезём" )
  88. 0
    14 October 2016 06: 58
    Я не удивлен обращением Израильтян, они много времени потратили изучая возможности Кипрских С-300Э. Но это экспортные системы ПВО, а в Сирии Российские. 1. Системы не просто новые, а заточенные под (С-400) объектовое ПВО и массированный налет, (С-300В4) войсковое ПВО с уклоном на противоракетное противодействие. 2. Принципы радиолокации (физики) не может отменить не один самолёт невидимка, отраженный сигнал будет от любой цели, а для того чтоб его засечь радиолокационные посты соедины в сеть и разнесены по местности (притом приемники, не излучатели).Для обнаружения и коррекции используется не один диапазон радиоволн и как говориться каждый будет отражаться по своему, а вот систематизировать информацию и выдать координаты цели по ней, уже не проблема. С алгоритмами у нас в стране всегда было хорошо. 3. Благодаря Сирийцам необходимые параметры F-22 в Сирийском небе ракетчики тоже получили. Отсюда и заявление нашего МО о несостоятельности невидимости, на которую так уповают Америкосы.
    P.S. Есть в нете материал о том как в свое время наш математик предложил военным рассчитанную форму боеголовки с минимальными параметрами отражения, но через год работ сам рассчитал сектора и зоны с которых данные объекты светятся как новогодние елки. В КГБ смекнули и подсунули тему на конгрессе математиков в США, где её и схавали.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"