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A government commission approved a bill allowing contracting to fight terrorists outside the country.

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The government commission on legislative activity approved a draft law allowing for the conclusion of short-term military contracts providing for the participation of military personnel in anti-terrorist operations outside of Russia, reports RIA News.


A government commission approved a bill allowing contracting to fight terrorists outside the country.


“In connection with the intensification of the activities of international terrorist and extremist organizations, it became necessary to increase the mobility of troops (forces), form consolidated and non-staff units and staff them in short terms with military personnel under contract military service in order to quickly solve short-term but important tasks related to their participation in operations to curb the activities of terrorist and extremist organizations ", - Said the press service of the government.

The agency recalls that the present time under the current law, “the first contract on military service with a military serving on conscription, or another citizen entering military service in a military position, for which the state provides for the military rank of soldier, sailor, sergeant, foremen , is for a period of two years or three years at the choice of a citizen. " In this case, with persons for whom the state provides for the rank of ensign (midshipman) or officer, the first contract is for 5 years.

«The draft law proposes to give servicemen ... to participate in solving tasks during emergency situations or in activities to maintain or restore peace and security or to suppress international terrorist activities outside Russia, as well as in ships' marches, the right to conclude a contract on military service for Term - until the termination of the circumstances that necessitated its conclusion, but not more than one year from the date of the entry into force of the military contract second service " - told the press service.

Today, the document approved by the commission should be discussed at a meeting of the Russian government.
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  1. Evil543
    Evil543 6 October 2016 09: 58
    +20
    Goofy .. here now ours will appear in Syria en masse, and PMCs are not needed.
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 6 October 2016 10: 05
      +8
      Quote: Evil543
      Goofy .. here now ours will appear in Syria en masse, and PMCs are not needed.

      It seems that there are interstate agreements with Syria. And before, troops were used abroad on a large scale. Most likely the draft law will facilitate only the legal procedure of legitimizing the army’s stay abroad from within the Russian point of view. A PMC refers to a greater extent to the commercialization of warfare. This area is little dependent on laws in general. Here at the forefront is profit and once again superprofit.
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 6 October 2016 10: 13
        +6
        Just now, if you want to go to Syria, you can legally conclude a contract with all the ensuing consequences, they can simply apply the concept of mercenary to PMCs.
        1. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall 6 October 2016 10: 17
          +3
          Interestingly, and now, while the law is not adopted, isn't PMC a mercenary? Western civilization permanently practices mercenary activities from Ancient Greece, and maybe even earlier (the notorious retreat of 10 thousand in the 4th century BC). It was only in the USSR that the law allowed this scum to be shot, not financed.
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 6 October 2016 10: 41
      +6
      Quote: Evil543
      Goofy .. here now ours will appear in Syria en masse, and PMCs are not needed.


      Syria, of course, it is, but fascists from Bandera are a serious promise, well, and the other Medzhlisian dirty tricks near the Crimea! And by status I think that it’s not the essence, a volunteer or a mercenary, these are all words. The main thing that will be written in the contract and with whom it is concluded by the military man, the signature and position of the person who provided the contract will determine social guarantees for the military man or the reserve man. Something like that, I think! what
      1. tiredwithall
        tiredwithall 6 October 2016 10: 57
        +3
        The ferment of the USSR is immediately visible. We are accustomed to social guarantees, to a human and respectful attitude. The market has come. Take a look around. Shake media chatter off your ears. All guarantees, all security, have either already evaporated or are evaporating at one rate or another and are replaced by the appearance of the board with money. Hayek Market (Nobel Laureate for this theory) - totally everything is sold and bought for the profit of money owners.
        1. your1970
          your1970 6 October 2016 18: 43
          +1
          Shake media chatter off your ears. All guarantees, all security, have either already evaporated or are evaporating at one rate or another and are replaced by the appearance of the board with money.-Do you see a nuance:
          “Fighting are faces, members of the armed forces of one of the belligerents and directly conducting hostilities against the enemy with weapons in their hands. They recognize the right to use military violence; they themselves apply the highest form of military violence, that is, physical destruction; once in the hands of the enemy, combatants have the right to treat them as prisoners of war. From these criteria it follows that the combatant is not only a subject, but also a direct target of the enemy’s military operations, and ceases to be such an object only in case of injury, capture ”.
          Legally - here lies a fundamental difference from PMCs ....
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 6 October 2016 13: 37
        +4
        Not only social guarantees under domestic law - all rights of a combatant under international law.
    3. The black
      The black 6 October 2016 10: 54
      0
      Goofy .. here now ours will appear in Syria en masse, and PMCs are not needed.
      I see no reason to be happy ..... If you translate this into an understandable language, then in fact they will use conscripts voluntarily and "voluntarily".
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 6 October 2016 11: 16
        0
        Where did you see the joy? hi
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 October 2016 11: 41
      +1
      This is done for the normal configuration of foreign bases of the Russian Federation, which is very good.
    5. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 6 October 2016 14: 44
      +2
      Who in the know can already conclude such a contract? And then the construction stood up, to go on a contract for 25 tr It doesn’t wash away, since I am a military pensioner ... And to Syria or where else I will go ...
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 6 October 2016 15: 10
        0
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Who in the know can already conclude such a contract? And then the construction stood up, to go on a contract for 25 tr It doesn’t wash away, since I am a military pensioner ... And to Syria or where else I will go ...

        Read the article more closely. This is still only a DRAFT, which should be discussed in the government, then, if the government approves it, it was adopted by the Duma as a law. Then you can cook the bag.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 October 2016 10: 01
    +2
    Finally. It is high time. Both military benefit and efficiency at the level.
  3. Moor
    Moor 6 October 2016 10: 01
    0
    That is, translating from high calm into the language of native aspens, the following is obtained: contracted military personnel now have the right to renegotiate the contract (before the expiration of the effective term) if they wish to participate in special operations outside of Russia, so what? And before they did not have the right? Who is more literate, please explain
    1. nnm
      nnm 6 October 2016 10: 30
      +2
      It is thought that this will be an additional agreement to the current one, defining additional conditions for a certain period of time.
    2. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 6 October 2016 11: 07
      0
      Now the contract can be 1 year, even if it came from stock. And not 3 or 5 as before, even for officers.
    3. The black
      The black 6 October 2016 15: 20
      0
      That is, translating from high calm into the language of native aspens, the following is obtained: contracted military personnel now have the right to renegotiate the contract (before the expiration of the effective term) if they wish to participate in special operations outside of Russia, so what? And before they did not have the right? Who is more literate, please explain

      No not like this. It's just that now a citizen from a civilian world can conclude not a "standard" contract for three years, but for a month, two, three ... up to a year. Generally
      until the termination of the circumstances that necessitated its conclusion,
      and go specifically to Syria, for example.
  4. Monos
    Monos 6 October 2016 10: 01
    +8
    This, as I understand it, makes it possible to sign mercenaries for a specific operation.
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 6 October 2016 10: 05
      +8
      Why "mercenaries" ?! Rather - "volunteers".
      1. tiredwithall
        tiredwithall 6 October 2016 10: 27
        +5
        Yes, thanks to the brainwashing of the mass media, even in VO people do not feel the difference between a volunteer and a mercenary. A mercenary is fighting for money - this is his main motive. He swore allegiance only to a personal bank account (or cash) and was not subject to any laws other than the command of the commander. A volunteer serves his country abroad and is bound by an oath to his homeland, submits to its laws.
        1. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 6 October 2016 11: 02
          0
          BUT, at the same time, it should be borne in mind that we are talking about the conclusion of "short-term contracts" by the military. And the word contract, in the classical sense, also implies a material settlement with the person fulfilling this contract. Another thing is what kind of freedom a soldier will have when concluding such contracts.
          In principle, this is done in many professional armies, with varying degrees of freedom of action. For example, in the French "foreign legion" in some units, a soldier has the opportunity to conclude a contract, both official and the so-called. "not official" (up to individual transactions). An unofficial contract can be concluded with almost anyone, up to some kind of commercial structures. This is what "mercenary" is in its purest form.
          In our case, we are talking exclusively about the fight against terrorism. And this means contracts are only implied with the official authorities of a country.
          1. tiredwithall
            tiredwithall 6 October 2016 11: 16
            +1
            You are a very big idealist:
            In our case, we are talking exclusively about the fight against terrorism. And this means contracts are only implied with the official authorities of a country.

            As the practice of our communication shows, the problem is somewhat broader than the subject of discussion - mercenarism. We are skidding in the field of philology - definitions and semantics. In principle, this is part of the information war that is being waged against us. These guys specifically euphemize for concepts. Until we agree on definitions (definitions of the terms used), rigid, observable definitions, we will crush water in a mortar.
          2. avt
            avt 6 October 2016 11: 43
            +2
            Quote: x.andvlad
            And the word contract, in the classical sense, also implies a material settlement with the one performing this contract. Another thing is how much freedom a soldier will have in concluding such contracts.

            “Freedom” is just for the volunteers, I want to fight, I don’t want, for various reasons, - a bayonet in the ground. Here we are talking about the fact that the STATE LAW is being adopted and not about PMCs, according to which, in accordance with the signed obligations of the parties, the state and a contract soldier, take obligations - well, a soldier goes to fight where the state sends him, as his MILITARY SERVICE, and the state guarantees him that he does this while in his service as part of a temporary freelance unit, and not on vacation, AWOL, or something else , with the appropriate material and insurance guarantees, seniority and everything that will be spelled out in the law and its subsequent by-laws.
        2. Monos
          Monos 6 October 2016 12: 34
          +4
          Quote: tiredwithall
          Yes, thanks to the brainwashing of the mass media, even in VO people do not feel the difference between a volunteer and a mercenary.

          By signing a contract with an "employer" (State), a person becomes an "employee" (mercenary). It is not necessary to introduce a moral component into a purely legal term. This is not about motives, but about the law.
          1. tiredwithall
            tiredwithall 6 October 2016 13: 01
            0
            Quote: Monos
            By signing a contract with an "employer" (State), a person becomes an "employee" (mercenary). It is not necessary to introduce a moral component into a purely legal term. This is not about motives, but about the law.

            The question is a little more complicated than you imagine. Officially, almost all the legal systems of countries announce that one of the main goals pursuing jurisprudence is the establishment of fair relations in society. Those. achievement of a moral goal. You, having descended on the scale of the system’s tasks to a lower level, are emasculating the moral basis of the law. Is this a technique or a delusion?
            During the construction of the USSR, the militia ("my militia protects me!" V. Mayakovsky) when patrolling public places in cities before a series of reforms had neither weapons nor clubs. Their presence in 30-50 years. would cause moral indignation of citizens - for whom they are intended !. And what about a mercenary (and in the army too), what does he guard besides his own pocket or, more precisely, selfish interest? Whom does he serve?
      2. Koshak
        Koshak 6 October 2016 15: 20
        +1
        Quote: x.andvlad
        Why "mercenaries" ?! Rather - "volunteers".

        Well, volunteers usually fight for free, for ideological reasons. And this is a case, rather, mercenary. I’m just wondering who will pay for these "services", MO, or will a separate "office" be created, such as PMCs?
      3. The black
        The black 6 October 2016 15: 36
        +1
        Why "mercenaries" ?! Rather - "volunteers".
        And what is the difference between a "mercenary" in this case from a "volunteer" under a contract (ie for money?) winked
    2. avt
      avt 6 October 2016 10: 10
      +5
      Quote: Monos
      This, as I understand it, makes it possible to sign mercenaries for a specific operation.

      No. No not like this !
      Quote: x.andvlad
      ! Rather - "volunteers".

      And not even volunteers in the classical sense. And it’s quite concrete soldiers who were seconded to non-staff units, if temporarily created, consolidated if you like. Well, like regular, full-time units are not introduced, but temporarily created structures ... the adviser apparatus is there, like the US are now in the Kurds at Kamyshly, advisers but in full growth base.
      1. Monos
        Monos 6 October 2016 12: 38
        +6
        Quote: avt
        the state and the contractor take obligations - well, the soldier goes to fight where the state sends him as his MILITARY SERVANT, and the state guarantees him that he does this while in his service

        That's right - "corsair's patent".
    3. The black
      The black 6 October 2016 15: 22
      +1
      This, as I understand it, makes it possible to sign mercenaries for a specific operation

      .YES! Roughly speaking, a short-term contract for a specific "operation" or participation in specific hostilities outside the Russian Federation
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2016 10: 05
    +4
    The decision is certainly the right one. And now we need to think about removing our servicemen from criminal prosecution for actions in a military situation. What the Americans have done and are now doing the British. And then they brought their own from under the persecution, and they constantly open their mouths on us, accusing us of almost war crimes.
    1. Moor
      Moor 6 October 2016 10: 37
      +2
      All American military personnel outside the United States are provided with diplomatic passports, that is, they have diplomatic immunity. The RF Armed Forces need to introduce a similar practice. This is quite enough for communication at the official level. And in an "unofficial" setting, AK 74 will suffice, since the Syrian and other barmaley respect only such arguments.
  6. avt
    avt 6 October 2016 10: 07
    +5
    good It is right ! Firstly, the guarantees for military personnel should be STATE and they should clearly know and be sure that they work for the state and under its flag, and not as PMC mercenaries; secondly, if a person went to the state military service, consciously choosing a profession, then he just obliged to participate in hostilities. Otherwise, what kind of professional is this (well, perhaps the exception is the Strategic Missile Forces bully ) And so the risks of his service should be insured by the state to which he serves and which actually sends him to hot spots, in accordance with the contract, in a non-staff unit.
  7. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 6 October 2016 10: 13
    +2
    in bronics and with checkers - enchantingly soldier traditions ... it's high time to create a brigade similar to the former "Vostok" battalion .. but not one .. there are many who wish and know
  8. Monarchist
    Monarchist 6 October 2016 10: 16
    +1
    This is already serious. Something "(on" Echo "and others) we will begin to escalate the situation: a new Afghan, etc.
  9. Hapfri
    Hapfri 6 October 2016 10: 27
    +1
    It is not clear from the text whether we are talking about foreign contract soldiers.
    Native forces can be attracted
    1. nnm
      nnm 6 October 2016 10: 43
      0
      it is written that we are talking about "military personnel", and this status can only be enjoyed by citizens of the Russian Federation ... those, if the natives, then first they must be naturalized
      1. VSZMK
        VSZMK 6 October 2016 10: 55
        0
        Quote: nnm
        Only citizens of the Russian Federation can have this status

        Tajiks also serve in 201 divisions. And in Transnistria in our peacekeeping - local.
        1. nnm
          nnm 6 October 2016 11: 01
          0
          not. they first obtain citizenship in an expedited manner. on 201 - for sure. they themselves have shaped it since then, when it was still the base.
      2. The black
        The black 6 October 2016 15: 39
        0
        it is written that we are talking about "military personnel", and this status can only be enjoyed by citizens of the Russian Federation ... those, if the natives, then first they must be naturalized

        You are deeply mistaken. In the army of the Russian Federation FOREIGN CITIZENS CAN BE SERVED !!! smile
  10. vladimirw
    vladimirw 6 October 2016 10: 28
    0
    Is this a step towards creating PMCs? But is something very long?
    1. The black
      The black 6 October 2016 15: 42
      0
      Is this a step towards creating PMCs? But is something very long?
      This is essentially PMCs. Only where to perform tasks - determines the state! .... And participation in PMCs, by the way, is punishable under our law. Article 359 of the Criminal Code has not yet been canceled smile
  11. Volksib
    Volksib 6 October 2016 10: 47
    +1
    My first contracts in Chechnya were six months each, then they began to sign for a year. And the "pioneers" were immediately obliged for three years. In general, Assad's army cannot cope, we have a crisis in the country, contract soldiers ...
  12. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 6 October 2016 11: 12
    0
    That's right, there is nothing to bring troops on every occasion into foreign territory. Arrived, pressed on their faces, and flew back, to the house.
  13. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 6 October 2016 11: 47
    0
    The bill proposes to provide military personnel ... for participation in solving problems during extraordinary circumstances or in activities to maintain or restore peace and security or to curb international terrorist activities outside of Russia

  14. Lelek
    Lelek 6 October 2016 12: 09
    +1
    It is high time. But you need to think carefully about the packages of accompanying acts and documents, since different conflicts can happen to such a volunteer.
  15. Juborg
    Juborg 6 October 2016 12: 24
    0
    I think it is primarily about Syria.
  16. dep071
    dep071 6 October 2016 12: 32
    +2
    Quote: Evil543
    Just now, if you want to go to Syria, you can legally conclude a contract with all the ensuing consequences, they can simply apply the concept of mercenary to PMCs.


    It is clear that not only in Syria, but also in the neighboring republic. 100% mercenary, because outside the country.

    Quote: Viktor fm
    That's right, there is nothing to bring troops on every occasion into foreign territory. Arrived, pressed on their faces, and flew back, to the house.


    The party line is observed in this post, the events of 1979-1989, as well as 1994-1996 showed what kind of strategists we have with big stars on their shoulder straps, who were given the "Mordas" there. Let's not chop off the shoulder with a saber.

    Quote: avt
    good It is right ! Firstly, the guarantees for military personnel should be STATE and they should clearly know and be sure that they work for the state and under its flag, and not as PMC mercenaries; secondly, if a person went to the state military service, consciously choosing a profession, then he just obliged to participate in hostilities. Otherwise, what kind of professional is this (well, perhaps the exception is the Strategic Missile Forces bully ) And so the risks of his service should be insured by the state to which he serves and which actually sends him to hot spots, in accordance with the contract, in a non-staff unit.


    And you are not obliged to participate in hostilities, have you forgotten the oath? They are sent to hot spots so that you and I can sleep peacefully at home. This is generally an extreme measure-erroneous policy and all that when diplomats decide are powerless. A contract is a mercenary, good or bad time will tell. It would be better not to hire your own.
    1. avt
      avt 6 October 2016 12: 53
      0
      Quote: dep071
      They are sent to hot spots so that you and I can sleep peacefully at home.

      Retelling Putin is optional.
      Quote: dep071
      And you are not obliged to participate in hostilities, have you forgotten the oath?

      Once again, for the especially gifted and the campaign of the libertarian hamster, well, judging by the reasoning behind the vopche about everything and nothing specifically, well, also
      Quote: dep071
      . A contract is a mercenary, good or bad time will tell. It would be better not to hire your own.

      So, for reference, Stalin paid good money for a downed plane and wrecked tanks, of course the system worked well after the turnaround during World War II. So? Also mercenary? fool We are talking about people who have consciously chosen military service as a profession, and a professional is simply obliged to participate in hostilities and this law provides the legal form for engaging, on a state basis, to solve state problems by military means, military personnel on the basis of a contract of various law enforcement agencies without losing their rights and while maintaining the same length of service as part of freelance units. No training and maneuvers real combat experience is not gained - a medical fact. Actually, the practice of business trips to hot spots from various power structures was also practiced in the USSR. True, without any legal justification and sometimes when the formal signs were not fulfilled (you were not there, the duration of the business trip does not correspond), people did not receive the status of a participant in the hostilities, giving the privileges laid down by the status, with military duty performed in accordance with the oath taken.
  17. igorka357
    igorka357 6 October 2016 15: 19
    0
    Quote: tiredwithall
    Yes, thanks to the brainwashing of the mass media, even in VO people do not feel the difference between a volunteer and a mercenary. A mercenary is fighting for money - this is his main motive. He swore allegiance only to a personal bank account (or cash) and was not subject to any laws other than the command of the commander. A volunteer serves his country abroad and is bound by an oath to his homeland, submits to its laws.

    What kind of bullshit did you write? A volunteer, takes a berdan, a backpack, and helps the fraternal people forward .. He is not sworn to any oath! in military service, since they get paid, in fact, the same hired workers .. you’re mercenaries, but you didn’t heal something! But among the double basses there are those who want to serve their homeland unselfishly ... it’s just what they rely on and salary!
  18. uge.garik
    uge.garik 6 October 2016 18: 43
    0
    ... The main thing is if we benefit from the law, and damage to the thief, then - the flag is in our hands ..!
  19. Oleg Vyacheslavovich
    Oleg Vyacheslavovich 6 October 2016 18: 49
    0
    So Russia needs volunteers to defend it abroad. I would call it the Volunteer Corps.
  20. yurikh
    yurikh 8 October 2016 15: 55
    0
    It is high time. Really survived.