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Experts at the MGPA task forces: An attack on the United Nations humanitarian council in Syria - a dramatization

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Independent experts at the International Syria Support Group came to the conclusion that the shelling of a column with humanitarian aid from the UN mission was a drama. Recall that, without exception, the major Western media literally at one time issued materials accusing of allegedly bombing a convoy of vehicles of the United Nations mission near the town of Urm al-Kubra.


RIA News He reports that over the course of several days, experts at the MGPS have studied photographic and video materials and got acquainted with other data. Special attention was paid to the experts from the Russian drone, which monitored the movement of the humanitarian convoy to a certain point on the route, after which the monitoring was carried out by American UAVs, and the shock ones. Recall that the video from the Russian drone was captured as a parallel course with UN trucks moving a car carrying a large-caliber mortar. Experts believe that in fact it is the transfer of military equipment by the Dzhebhat an-Nusra militants to Aleppo under the cover of a humanitarian column.



From the document:
Urm Al-Kubra is located in the territory controlled by the Nusra militants (banned in Russia), moreover, this territory is marked as a region of high concentration of militants. If you take the reports for September 19, you will find that in this very place, at the same time, the Nusra militants launched a large-scale offensive in the direction of Aleppo, supported by massive artillery fire, tanks and multiple launch rocket systems.


Experts working in MGGS, speaking of the planned staging of the attack on the convoy, give the following arguments: in some cases, the photo shows unaffected and slightly damaged UN truck cabs with a fully burned-out cargo in the body (van). This, according to the expert group, suggests that the cargo was deliberately destroyed in order to divert attention from the fact that the terrorists took advantage of the movement of the column towards Aleppo for their own cover.

Why the American side does not publish videos from its drone is a separate question that would be worth asking in the UN Security Council.

Apparently, after the publication of the findings by MGPS experts, the West will accuse them of being all “Kremlin agents” ...
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  1. PKK
    PKK 5 October 2016 16: 46
    +8
    Thank you, we immediately realized that.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 5 October 2016 16: 57
      20
      Russia has already become, as in that joke .. "If there is no water in the tap, they drank it .."
      Provocations for provocations are coming ... and they are so dumb, to be honest .. They would have come up with something more sophisticated!
      1. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 5 October 2016 17: 10
        21
        Unfortunately, the world press will not notice this (expert conclusions) and will continue to blame Russia for it, the analogy is simple to the disgrace of Ukraine MN-17, Syria is a UN humanitarian convoy.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 October 2016 17: 11
          10
          Apparently, after the publication of the findings by MGPS experts, the West will accuse them of being all “Kremlin agents” ...


          Here is the answer in the text, but the truth will find a way.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 5 October 2016 17: 25
            +5
            And they won’t blame, they simply won’t publish the conclusions of experts. Yes, and people in the West are not interested.
            1. Temples
              Temples 5 October 2016 17: 43
              20
              Unfortunately, the world press will not notice


              What is this authority "world press" laughing
              Chewing gum, marlboro, the world press.
              Surely admiration for the "world press" has not yet grown out of this age?

              Here comes a good president in the United States and everything will be just wonderful! wassat
              Trump is better than Clinton !!! wassat
              All this is bullshit!
              The ghoul sits on the ghoul and drives the ghoul.
            2. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 5 October 2016 18: 41
              +6
              Quote: dmi.pris
              And they will not blame, they simply will not publish the conclusions of experts

              and how is it, "beautiful"?
              https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-backed-re
              bels-defect-al-qaeda-branch-syria /
              A battalion of FSA militants went over to the side of "Nusra"
              A battalion of the Mountain Falcons Brigade of the SSA, which is sponsored by Qatar and trained by americans, yesterday officially announced that he was leaving the 13th FSA division and joining the Jabhat Fateh al Sham group. The battalion is based in the north-west of Idlib province and is armed with the Tou ATGM.
              ======
              it turns out while trained and pumped up weapons
              were "moderate"? , and then gave the command and went over. request
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 5 October 2016 17: 13
          12
          Quote: katalonec2014
          , the analogy is simple to disgrace Ukraine MN-17, Syria, the UN humanitarian convoy.

          You missed Georgia. There, the world press continued to whine against us, even after it became known that Georgia had begun the war. Well, here, in Syria, the information war, the west is fully engaged. And it will be very difficult for us to defend our truth.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 5 October 2016 19: 39
            +2
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            You missed Georgia. There, the world press continued to whine against us, even after it became known that Georgia had begun the war. Well, here, in Syria, the information war, the west is fully engaged. And it will be very difficult for us to defend our truth

            The information that it was Saakashvili who gave the go-ahead for the attack on Ossetia and Abkhazia went through a very small piece of information in the Western media and in the West everyone still thinks that we attacked Georgia.
        3. Stinger
          Stinger 5 October 2016 18: 16
          +3
          The world press only takes notice of the test tube. And here is such an opportunity! Press at the start: "Bloody Putin crushes humanists." The UN is in a panic! You can't bring ammo to moderate thugs!
        4. Drzed
          Drzed 6 October 2016 02: 28
          +2
          the world press is already, IMHO, it is necessary to write in quotation marks
        5. Peacemaker
          Peacemaker 6 October 2016 05: 17
          +1
          Yesterday I saw it on TV, deyaty. A Westerner who truly believes that Aleppo is being bombed by the Russians! All Western media show in "real time" reports in which "civilians" yell - Ah! The Russians are bombing us! And this clogs up the entire Arabic and Western tyrnet ...
          Infowine, they definitely win. Hollywood, be wrong!
        6. solovald
          solovald 6 October 2016 07: 56
          0
          This is not for the world press, but for interstate structures, such as the UN, Security Council, etc. offices
      2. win
        win 5 October 2016 17: 24
        +4
        Soon there will be a staging of the atomic bombing ...
      3. Res_Ullus
        Res_Ullus 5 October 2016 17: 50
        +3
        STARPER Today, 21:57 ↑
        Russia has already become, as in that joke .. "If there is no water in the tap, they drank it .."
        Provocations for provocations are coming ... and they are so dumb, to be honest .. They would have come up with something more sophisticated!

        God forbid. Let’s better go on stupid. Since it’s calmer wink
        1. OLD FART
          OLD FART 5 October 2016 18: 31
          +5
          Quote: Res_Ullus
          STARPER Today, 21:57 ↑
          Russia has already become, as in that joke .. "If there is no water in the tap, they drank it .."
          Provocations for provocations are coming ... and they are so dumb, to be honest .. They would have come up with something more sophisticated!

          God forbid. Let’s better go on stupid. Since it’s calmer wink

          The fact of the matter is that their stupidity is too relaxing for us ... And the enemy is very dangerous and treacherous! Our liberals in Russia have quieted down and this is very alarming ...
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 5 October 2016 20: 43
            +1
            Quote: STARPER
            And the enemy is very dangerous and treacherous! Our liberals in Russia have quieted down and this is very alarming ...



            Hmm ... How can I not shut up ...
            Russia began to respond quite sharply to the US to their attacks ...
            At the level of the Duma and the government, mobilization issues began to be addressed (good or bad - this is another matter) ...
            Already there is information that the re-election of the President of the Russian Federation may not happen in 2018, but already in 2017 ... Moreover, he (the president) himself hinted more than once ...
            It may well be that it’s difficult or impossible for him to disperse this shobla himself, but with the advent of the new president, he will recruit a NEW government, sending the old one to the scrap ...
            Something is brewing ... And not in the appetizing direction for any opposition ...
            At least - I hope that once the dashing and bribe-takers will be dispersed, and even better - will be sent to the national economy ... Let them know how a piece of bread is earned, and not a bowl of black caviar ...
            1. IGOR GORDEEV
              IGOR GORDEEV 6 October 2016 06: 42
              +1
              Quote: weksha50
              Already there is information that the re-election of the President of the Russian Federation may not happen in 2018, but already in 2017 ... Moreover, he (the president) himself hinted more than once ... It may well be that this is difficult or impossible for him himself to disperse the shoblu, but with the advent of the new president, he will recruit a NEW government, sending the old one to the scrap ... Something is brewing ... Moreover, not in the appetizing direction for any opposition ... At least - I hope that once dashing and bribe-takers will be dispersed, and even better - will be sent

              For centuries, the problem with the elite has been in Russia. The sensible king will come and the country will be less or less good. And some kind of extravagance will come, and as a rule pro-Western, it will become so poor that then the receivers have to disentangle themselves.
              Now it is not clear by the receiver of GDP and by the succession of the leading elite.
      4. Sibrusich
        Sibrusich 5 October 2016 19: 41
        0
        But why invent something more sophisticated, even if such crap works? A more realistic staging costs more. Well, someone, and the Americans will not spend extra money and they can save when it is needed.
        1. aiden
          aiden 6 October 2016 00: 59
          0
          they don’t know how to save, if necessary, they will print how much is needed. their debt seems to exceed the debt of all countries combined. but for the rest I agree
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    2. Fregate
      Fregate 5 October 2016 17: 27
      +6
      Yes, it was immediately clear. After the Dese incident, it was necessary to distract world society from the fact that the US coalition is helping terrorists. They needed an incident in which it was possible to blame the SAR and Russia, and they became the gum incident. escort.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 5 October 2016 18: 22
        +9
        Quote: Fregate
        They needed an incident in which it was possible to blame the SAR and Russia, and they became the gum incident. escort.

        But they didn’t expect such a response from GDP.
        A large article with thoughts on the subject of the Plutonium Decree.

        Since Putin was never seen in hysteria, therefore, the tone of the decree was chosen on purpose, and not spontaneously. What for? The main requirement in the decree is the lifting of sanctions, and even compensation for them. This means only one thing - the Kremlin does not want these sanctions to suddenly stop. And this, in turn, means a simple thing - we wanted to spit on your sanctions. ” As the development of events shows, anti-Russian sanctions bring only benefits to Russia, and GDP even began to grow, no matter what.

        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2188571.html?utm_sou
        rce = 24smi.info & utm_medium = referral & utm_campaign = 2
        007 & utm_content = 1049768 & utm_term = 2581 Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA.
    3. Evil543
      Evil543 5 October 2016 18: 41
      +1
      Evil543 20 September 2016 18:53 | Detailed commentary of the RF Ministry of Defense on the "shelling" of the UN humanitarian mission in Syria
      Was there any kind of load? Can 100% dramatization?
      Evil543 20 September 2016 19:19 | Detailed commentary of the RF Ministry of Defense on the "shelling" of the UN humanitarian mission in Syria
      But you don’t think that the photo is old, there is no soot from burnt tires and asphalt without signs of a table of contents, already very dusty.

      Well, all gentlemen, comrades ... we are opening our own expert center drinks
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  2. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 5 October 2016 16: 46
    +5
    Hmm ... and who else doubted the "timeliness" of the next false bombing of the United States in order to divert attention from inflicting an "erroneous" strike on the SAR? !!
    1. User
      User 5 October 2016 18: 38
      +1
      No one doubted. And in this news there is nothing unexpected in the words of experts, it was all immediately clear. For me, the whole point of the news is that there are still independent experts who are telling the truth, and not what the US masters dictate to them. This is really unexpected.
  3. neri73-r
    neri73-r 5 October 2016 16: 46
    +2
    Who would doubt that! The Anglo-Zionists in their repertoire! hi
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 5 October 2016 16: 49
    +8
    "This, according to the expert group, suggests that the cargo was destroyed deliberately in order to divert attention from the fact that the terrorists took advantage of the movement of the convoy towards Aleppo for their own cover."

    This indicates the theft of cargo and concealment of this fact.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 5 October 2016 17: 37
      +4
      The guns were a load of gunmen. They successfully took it, and the cars burned, so as not to show the load. It was necessary to present it to someone, well, to those to whom, according to legend, they drove
      1. x587x
        x587x 5 October 2016 20: 52
        0
        Operation Y"
  5. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 5 October 2016 16: 52
    +9
    Basmachi killed two birds with one stone, and they received the cargo, and denigrated Russia.
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 5 October 2016 17: 03
      +5
      Three. Most importantly, the terrorists covered up the offensive during the ceasefire.
  6. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 5 October 2016 16: 55
    +6
    Apparently, after the publication of the findings by MGPS experts, the West will accuse them of being all “Kremlin agents” ...

    But MGPS is far away, not our friends, apparently everything is so dirty there that they simply could not stand it.
  7. Makarov
    Makarov 5 October 2016 16: 55
    0
    and experts from which countries were part of the IHPS?
    1. Makarov
      Makarov 5 October 2016 16: 57
      +3
      Germany, European Union, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Italy, Qatar, China, Lebanon, League of Arab States, United Arab Emirates, Oman, United Nations, Russia, Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, United States, Turkey and France - these?
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 5 October 2016 17: 03
        +6
        Currently, MGPS includes the USA, Egypt, China, Germany, France, Great Britain, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates. Representatives of the European Union, the League of Arab States and the UN are also present at the meetings.
        Yeah, they are the most. yes
        Well, we are there ... Whose voice is louder there, I think clearly ..?
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 5 October 2016 17: 01
    +6
    Hollywood blundered, they couldn’t do the stage play more reliably ... lol
    1. Smog
      Smog 5 October 2016 17: 50
      +7
      So Stanley Kubrick died, and the current ...., well, they don’t know how, I guess.
      1. IGOR GORDEEV
        IGOR GORDEEV 6 October 2016 06: 52
        0
        Quote: Smog
        So Stanley Kubrick died, and the current ...., well, they don’t know how, probably

        They are sharpened for blockbusters and "superheroes" + the appropriate audience. And then another genre: "harsh reality" :)
  9. The black
    The black 5 October 2016 17: 03
    +4
    Quote: PKK
    Thank you, we immediately realized that.

    Everyone and everyone understands. Everyone knows everything. It’s just a war ... and from the point of view of the guardians of democracy, this is the norm. And we need to be prepared for this. Us more than once and not two will betray and slander
  10. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 5 October 2016 17: 09
    +1
    Thanks to the experts for not being biased, which is rare in today's world.
    1. dali
      dali 5 October 2016 17: 20
      0
      Quote: jetfors_84
      Thanks to the experts for not being biased, which is rare in today's world.


      I think "not bias" has nothing to do with it. They commanded them to slow down, otherwise it hurts with white threads - well, they will not broadcast it themselves: "Oh, you made a mistake again, excuse me ..." laughing , that is, slowly hush up this thing !!!
  11. afrikanez
    afrikanez 5 October 2016 17: 10
    +5
    Generally speaking, it is necessary to stop unsubstantiated accusations against Russia. Probably in all the Criminal Code there is an article for libel and false denunciation. So we need to deal with them harder and more confidently. Enough ka says "chew snot" negative
  12. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 October 2016 17: 11
    +2
    They’ve arranged a theater for themselves ...
  13. AlexTires
    AlexTires 5 October 2016 17: 17
    +1
    I did not doubt it from the moment I saw the first pictures on the network ...
  14. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 5 October 2016 17: 23
    +7
    Yes, the whole struggle of the states with the igil is a staging.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 5 October 2016 17: 29
      +2
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Yes, the whole struggle of the states with the igil is a staging.

      and I would also add ... "Before the attack on Russia .."
  15. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 5 October 2016 17: 51
    +9
    Who would doubt that. Our MO already on fingers and on German signs told and showed everything to everyone. US tricks are getting more boring: Pearl Harbor was an outstanding provocation (if no one knew about "Kiu-ku-Mitsu!"). The provocation in the Gulf of Tonkin is already calculated on obedient satellites, the twin towers, and especially the Pentagon without the remains of an airplane, is suspicious. Test tube and attack on Iraq - failure. Kinotryuky with evil Serbs and the trial of Miloshivech - Yes! It works for zombies, but for normal people such performances are disgusting. And more ... more ..., including the Malay flight, shot down according to the scenario of James Clapper (the author of the provocation over Sakhalin and the organizer of 9/11). The main spy of the world is getting old ... Angry ...
    So this "attack of the Russians" ...
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 5 October 2016 18: 07
      +2
      Quote: pafegosoff
      The world's leading spy is aging ... Angry ...

      Rather, he lost his scent, appointed himself exceptional, and made full use of the fruits of the collapse of the USSR and the absence on the world stage of a powerful counterweight that could put it in its place request And now, when they begin to poke their nose in kaku everywhere, then they have to get angry. And these are warnings so far, no one has ever written a bream for bad behavior wassat
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 5 October 2016 20: 38
        +1
        Yes, the collapse of the USSR greatly inspired them. Apparently they decided that everything would now live long at the expense of Russia and other countries. But no. !!!!!!
  16. russmensch
    russmensch 5 October 2016 18: 15
    +1
    Well, Russia today presides over the Security Council and I think Churkin will find a way and opportunity to drag his face on the table of the instigators. Fortunately, these are no longer unfounded statements. Surely everything is recorded for the public.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 5 October 2016 18: 29
      0
      Quote: russmensch
      Churkin will find a way and opportunity to muzzle the instigators table

      Churkin already needs to erect a monument only because he not only listens to lies and nakedness from the "partners", but is also forced to constantly contemplate the second wave of attack, only this time in the form of a "photo model"
      Samantha Power wassat
  17. Essex62
    Essex62 5 October 2016 18: 16
    +4
    Exposure and again exposure. Massons of leather climb to draw the Russian Federation into a ground battle. Moreover, to carry it out by the forces of the barmalei, well, the Turks, as it were, would be pulled up under it. While the fifth column is rampant in the Russian Federation, it is impossible to get into any protracted war. This we already passed in 1917. At that time, the steel spike of the Bolsheviks saved us from the collapse of the country. But at what cost .... In fact, on whom are all these attempts intended? On the notorious public opinion. I don’t give a damn what they’ll think about us in a rotten geyrope, or maybe in the emirates. And our real partners already understand and support everything.
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 5 October 2016 18: 51
      +2
      As for the Masons. And Gaddafi was a freemason. And Chubais and the Kremlin (however, in the Kremlin they have not been withdrawn since the time of Catherine).
      Now on the topic: "Why the American side does not publish videos from its drone is a separate question that should be asked in the UN Security Council."
      And when did they publish the truth?
      Oh yes! When Harry Paurs was shot down near Sverdlovsk, carefully collected all the evidence, and then, all the evidence suddenly fell out.
      Nikita Sergeevich defiantly refused to shake hands with Hayk (after all, the US President was awarded the Order of Victory, stood on Lenin's mausoleum and received the parade). The disgrace for Eisenhower was terrible: under de Gaulle, he was not shaken by hands! And this is not some kind of Obama ... He was deceived, and he took everything upon himself (as if he knew about the task and himself gave the order to fly Powers) ... They were gentlemen.
      And if someone accuses me of rudeness, then - excuse me! I follow what our civilized democratic reality preaches: rudeness is our creed (they say and show it, not me. It is they who run the girls into the temple, hold gay pards and burn Odessa residents in the trade union house, laughing and rejoicing ... ) After that, my statements about the excessive gentleness of the gentlemen from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are babble ...
  18. 1536
    1536 5 October 2016 19: 04
    +5
    News is hanging on the BBC, as some regular UN Templar made a categorical statement that the convoy was shot from the air. And everyone believes this scoundrel, because they want to believe, as if land-to-land shells fly under this very ground, and American drones sow garlic for the winter. But they don’t believe us, because they don’t want to believe, but they want to use our wealth for their own good and harm. These are the invaders! Future, present. They have captured Ukraine, are roaming the United Nations and, an uneven hour, can attack Russia.
    In my opinion, now the most important thing is not to allow a repeat of 1941. And events are developing precisely in this scenario. And this, alas, is not paranoia, but a reality given to us in sensation.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 5 October 2016 20: 49
      0
      Shtatniks always strive to fight with the wrong hands in someone else's territory. Bleed others and reap benefits.
      Fly in, bomb ---- and back. The Syrians defend their country, and staff members never fought on their territory.
    2. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 6 October 2016 07: 00
      0
      Quote: 1536
      News is hanging on the BBC, as some regular UN Templar made a categorical statement that the convoy was shot from the air. And everyone believes this scoundrel, because they want to believe, as if land-to-land shells fly under this very ground, and American drones sow garlic for the winter. But they don’t believe us, because they don’t want to believe, but they want to use our wealth for their own good and harm. These are the invaders! Future, present. They have captured Ukraine, are roaming the United Nations and, the time is rough, they can attack Russia. In my opinion, now the most important thing is not to allow a repeat of 1941. And events are developing precisely in this scenario. And this, alas, is not paranoia, but a reality given to us in sensation.


      As the saying goes: “You can't trample on statistics!” ... Somewhere once every 100 years, the “civilized Western world” goes to Russia. On the other hand, maybe it's time to finish with these statistics? It is necessary to consider preventive measures (to begin with, preventive) up to "accidental" meteorites, earthquakes, some kind of eruptions and other divine punishment!
    3. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 6 October 2016 08: 56
      0
      Take a sedative - autumn, exacerbations ...
  19. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 October 2016 19: 13
    +1
    Good, of course, but late. As with the memorable events of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    "The spoons were found, but the sediment remained."
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 5 October 2016 19: 25
      0
      I’m talking about this at every party meeting (proverb).
      Late! And toothless!
  20. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
    Alexander Abdrakhmanov 5 October 2016 19: 17
    +1
    In Syria - that in Ukraine, all similar attacks. Everything is directed against Russia - not so much against Syria. They want us to blame Russia in any way. After the convoy was destroyed, they immediately stopped cooperating with us. This was necessary for them, although there wasn’t any cooperation there. They simply made a screen - in front of socialism in the world. It’s just that Russia will not let America bomb. The United States simply does not know what Russia is, and how it might end. Not when we did not fight with them, they can only be done by the wrong hands. They don’t know what our military plan is. Maybe Russia has a trump card in its hands - they do not know it. Ours did not give them a plan - they themselves can fall into the trap. The president said that we’ll shoot down planes, that’s the whole answer to hawks.
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  22. masiya
    masiya 5 October 2016 20: 05
    +1
    No one doubts that they burned empty trucks with empty boxes, they all plundered before that ...
  23. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 5 October 2016 20: 24
    0
    Quote: cniza
    Here is the answer in the text, but the truth will find a way.

    That the truth would find a way, it is necessary to soak Susanin.
  24. bumerang.
    bumerang. 5 October 2016 20: 59
    +8
    “A terrible tragedy happened - the Obama couple had a white child,” US State Department Press Secretary Marie Harf reports on this at a press conference.
    - Russia and personally President Putin are undoubtedly the culprits of this incident, we have absolutely all the evidence, but because of the secrecy, we cannot open it.
    Journalist: - And how do you explain that 9 months before President Obama visited President of Ukraine Poroshenko? Are these two facts not related?
    MX: - Absolutely not connected. They can’t even be compared. In addition, President Poroshenko paid a visit to the couple Obama as a private individual. He could just visit his grandmother in the USA. The next question, please!
    - And how do you explain that both the face and the hairdo do not look like Putin, but they are very similar to Poroshenko, almost the same person.
    - Given that the baby is not African American, portrait similarities cannot be determined by eye.
    - So you want to say that all white on one face?
    - I did not say that!
    - And what about the fact that according to the results of an independent genetic examination, Poroshenko is 99,9% of the baby’s father?
    “We have undeniable evidence to the contrary.”
    - What?
    - Statement by President Poroshenko, laid out by him in the "Yu Tube".
    - And you are based only on this statement?
    - Of course, because it is very logical: the person is not to blame and honestly said that. We do not doubt the veracity of this data.
    “And if President Putin says the same thing?”
    “Naturally, we cannot trust his statement.”
    - Why?
    - Listen, you are simply expounding Moscow propaganda! Do you have more questions?
    “And how does the first lady herself comment on the causes of the incident?”
    - She believes that since the possibility of involvement of friendly US countries in it is completely excluded, it means that this was undoubtedly an act of aggression on the part of Russia and personally President Putin.
    “But what does she say about the root cause event, so to speak?” This is impossible not to remember!
    - Listen, I'm tired of your pro-Russian attacks, the next question!
    - So you are convinced that Russia and Putin are to blame?
    “We have no doubt about that.”
    - Given that the last year President Poroshenko visited the Obama family, the baby looked like Poroshenko like two drops of water and the genetic examination determined Poroshenko’s paternity, and President Putin, according to satellite data, was at least 20 thousand km from the first lady, you still think Putin is guilty? But why?
    - My job is to voice the conclusions of our experts, and not engage in stupid polemics. In addition, you greatly underestimate the sexual power of the Russians, their speed and range! To summarize: so that such a tragedy does not come to every American home, we intend to ask the world community to introduce the most severe sanctions against Russia and personally President Putin!
    I don’t know the author
  25. MarioG
    MarioG 5 October 2016 21: 11
    0
    Pocket group claims based on "reasons". Of course the most truthful group. And the most truthful Syrian media have shot down more than one thousand planes and won all wars.
    1. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 6 October 2016 07: 10
      0
      Quote: MarioG
      Pocket group claims based on "reasons". Of course the most truthful group. And the most truthful Syrian media have shot down more than one thousand planes and won all wars.

      Are you for the truth or for standing aside and brushing your teeth? :)
    2. alexej123
      alexej123 6 October 2016 20: 33
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      DB - in my opinion, Lavrov is about you and such you said.
  26. cosmos132
    cosmos132 5 October 2016 23: 13
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    A blatant confrontation began.
  27. iouris
    iouris 5 October 2016 23: 16
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    And what became easier? This was clear to everyone. The thing is different.
  28. Engineer
    Engineer 6 October 2016 08: 42
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    Photo and video experts make conclusions without even having visited? Yes, it’s for chickens to laugh! No, well, if they have psychics diplomas of 80lvl, then yes, I believe their conclusions. These things should be taken seriously: if a provocation - then iron evidence, a serious objective investigation, and not the conclusion of a handful of hereditary magicians in the photo.
    1. slm976
      slm976 6 October 2016 12: 08
      +1
      Photo and video experts make conclusions without even having visited? Yes, it’s for chickens to laugh! No, well, if they have psychics diplomas of 80lvl, then yes, I believe their conclusions. These things should be taken seriously: if a provocation - then iron evidence, a serious objective investigation, and not the conclusion of a handful of hereditary magicians in the photo.


      Good afternoon.
      The convoy was destroyed on the territory of the terrorists, and for some reason the terrorists are not eager to let international experts come to them, and most importantly, the experts are not eager to go there. So you have to be content with what you have, especially since you may not be aware, but if a person is a professional, he can really understand a lot about the nature of the damage, based on photo and video information.

      These conclusions are at least less controversial than the conclusions of "our Western partners", who simply accused us of everything, without giving a single proof of our guilt ..... all of their justification is based on a very controversial and unsubstantiated statement that the convoy was destroyed from the air , and if so, "it can only be Russians or Syrians."

      And finally, about the "serious and objective investigation with a visit to the site" .. I hope you remember how long the "serious and objective" investigation of the Malaysian Boeing downed over Ukraine is going on? The commission has been working for a year, went to the site, collected the wreckage, and what are the conclusions of the commission, voiced not so long ago, on the same photos and videos from the Internet (for which there has long been evidence that this is a fake), and on some kind of audio recording , "type of radio interception" of a conversation between two unidentified people .. they simply do not consider all the evidence that does not fit their concept ...

      So, unfortunately, it is true that in our present world, nobody is particularly interested, there is just a political struggle in which all possible methods of pressure on the enemy are used ...
  29. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 6 October 2016 08: 54
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    "After analyzing the data, experts at the UN concluded that the shelling of the organization's humanitarian convoy and the Syrian branch of the Red Crescent Society, presumably, was carried out from the air. The report on the results of the investigation was at the disposal of The Associated Press."

    What are UN experts also biased individuals?
    Air strikes on the column is already a fact.
    The second question is - whose business is it?

    http://www.rbc.ru/politics/05/10/2016/57f524969a7
    9477bda950656? From = main
    1. slm976
      slm976 6 October 2016 12: 20
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      What are UN experts also biased individuals?


      No lambs in heaven !! Of course engaged, the world is polarizing and everyone chooses their sides, the UN staff is far from an exception. Yesterday, in my opinion, the UN Commissioner for Human Rights from Jordan said that Russia should take away the right of veto in the UN Security Council, regarding the situation in Aleppo, is he not biased? Why do you think these "experts" are better?

      Air strikes on the column is already a fact.

      It will become a fact when evidence of this fact is given! Even in the excerpt that you brought for some reason, it sounds
      supposedly carried out by air

      "UN experts" are now like "British scientists"))), then they declare that they destroyed from the air, then there is no evidence of an air attack ... there will be hundreds and hundreds more such statements until the situation in Aleppo is suppressed.
  30. sibiryk
    sibiryk 6 October 2016 10: 14
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    Quote: Dryuya2
    Quote: dmi.pris
    And they will not blame, they simply will not publish the conclusions of experts

    how is it, "beautiful"? ... it turns out while they were trained and pumped up with weapons
    were "moderate"? , and then gave the command and went over. request


    Everything is very simple SSA is a "training", but at the end of the "training" in the troops.