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Japanese Premier on the Kuriles and the Crimea

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has once again decided to raise the theme of the Kuril Islands. TASS news agency reports that Abe has denied recent reports in the Japanese press that he is ready to sign a peace treaty with Russia if Tokyo transfers two of the four islands of the South Kuril Islands (in the Japanese version, the “northern territories”). According to Abe, a peace treaty with Russia will be signed only if "membership is determined for all (4) islands." These are Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai.


Japanese Prime:
We strictly adhere to a single position in the negotiation process with Russia, and there has been no change in it.


At the same time, Mr. Abe had to answer the question of whether Japan would have to recognize the Crimea as Russian in negotiations with Russia. At this, the Japanese prime minister replied that he did not see any connection between the Crimea and the Kuriles. According to Abe, Japan has already declared its position on the Crimean issue.

Japanese Premier on the Kuriles and the Crimea


Words Abe leads TASS:
In connection with the annexation of Crimea to Russia, we stated that we did not recognize changes in the situation in the world based on military force. We have a common position on this issue with other countries of the Big Seven and imposed sanctions on Russia, the problem is even wider - it is also relevant to the situation in the east of Ukraine. We have repeatedly advocated the strict implementation of the Minsk agreements, Japan calls for this not only Russia, but also Ukraine. However, I do not understand how this relates to the negotiations on the territories and the conclusion of a peace treaty.
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  1. Hunt
    Hunt 3 October 2016 06: 58
    +60
    Well, how can you conduct a dialogue with them? The affiliation of the four islands has long been determined! This is Russian land! And another question torments me, someone worries that we do not have a peace treaty with the Japanese?
    1. SSR
      SSR 3 October 2016 07: 13
      +17
      "Businessmen" are nervous, they need an alternate airfield instead of the west and Cyprus.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 October 2016 07: 52
        +19
        Japan does not want so much territories as marine resources near these islands, but what about the ears? ...
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 3 October 2016 09: 46
          +17
          It is ridiculous to read the Japanese insinuations about the arrogance of getting the islands, interpreting everything in their own way. There will never be a peace treaty until they calm down. Their direct task is to get the islands to take away the fishing industry of this region and block the access to the ocean of the Russian fleet with subsequent trade and blackmail, for their mercantile purposes or at the direction of the striped owner. Otherwise, he, in addition to Hiroshima, can bomb all of Japan.
          1. olegkrava
            olegkrava 3 October 2016 10: 24
            +2
            Fish, this is just a meal, but a direct entry into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk from the Pacific Ocean for the mattress is the most.
            1. Byshido_dis
              Byshido_dis 3 October 2016 14: 02
              +6
              However, I do not understand how this relates to the negotiations on the territories and the conclusion of a peace treaty.


              And we do not understand what you have to do with the Kuril Islands)))
          2. Byshido_dis
            Byshido_dis 3 October 2016 14: 05
            +3
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Otherwise, he, in addition to Hiroshima, can bomb all of Japan.

            In general, it’s funny to look at them, they conducted an anti-human experiment (Hiroshima and Nagasaki), put their faces in guano and continue to wipe them even until now, but they seem to not see it ...
        2. WKS
          WKS 3 October 2016 10: 16
          +9
          It turns out, he said, that Russia needs a peace treaty, but Japan does not need it. Maybe then it is worth thinking about joining Hokkaido to Russia while we are at war?
          1. portyanka
            portyanka 3 October 2016 12: 31
            +2
            you cannot attack "Japan".
            There is no Japan. It was annexed by the United States.
        3. dorz
          dorz 3 October 2016 11: 11
          +2
          Quote: Hunter
          someone is worried that we do not have a peace treaty with the Japanese?

          The Americans will probably be worried if a peace treaty appears.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 3 October 2016 07: 15
      +27
      As far as I remember the lessons of world history, the Kuril Islands, like Sakhalin, were "taken" from Japan by the Soviet Union as compensation for the war, just like Konigsberg from Germany. So what is it about? What kind of return is the Japanese talking about? Maybe then we should have returned the Crimea to the Turks? And to give the conquered territories to the Finns? The war was, the winners are not judged. "Negotiations on the Kuriles" ended 71 years ago bully
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 3 October 2016 07: 26
        +18
        They gave, hypothetically, three square meters of our land with the best intentions. And a pack of jackals from all over the world will rush to tear up the body of Russia. Like - "Akela missed !!" Nothing good and good, and even more so to give the land taken by the blood of our ancestors is NOT ALLOWED! Already so much has been given that the return of the Russian Crimea is worth the cost of the ovs - American partners in the city. I gave it away, but try yours then return it!
        1. Professor
          Professor 3 October 2016 07: 58
          +2
          Quote: 30 vis
          They gave, hypothetically, three square meters of our land with the best intentions. And a pack of jackals from all over the world will rush to tear up the body of Russia. Like - "Akela missed !!" Nothing good and good, and even more so to give the land taken by the blood of our ancestors is NOT ALLOWED! Already so much has been given that the return of the Russian Crimea is worth the cost of the ovs - American partners in the city. I gave it away, but try yours then return it!

          Well, they gave the island of Damasno, so what? And where is the pack of jackals from all over the world who will "rush to tear the body of Russia"? request
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 3 October 2016 08: 15
            +15
            Professor, what about the Golan Heights, it's time to return it too! belayimplement UN resolution
            1. Professor
              Professor 3 October 2016 08: 22
              +1
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              Professor, what about the Golan Heights, it's time to return it too! belayimplement UN resolution

              Am I calling for the return of the Kuril Islands? request
              Golan we offered Assad in exchange for a peace treaty. He refused. The train left.
          2. Same lech
            Same lech 3 October 2016 08: 18
            +2
            Was it possible to resolve the territorial issue in the conditions of our time somehow differently? This is a big question. The transfer of a part of the island near Khabarovsk was the result of almost 150 years of the history of our victories and defeats, the strengthening and weakening of Russia, and was not "an instant concession from Russia." So why are so liberal journalists and excessively emotional patriots scolding Putin? Let's turn to the facts. In October 2004, border treaties were signed in Beijing, and the border issue was finally settled. Immediately after this, on December 31, 2004, the RF Government issued Decree No. 1737-r on the design and construction of the East Siberia-Pacific Ocean (ESPO) oil pipeline with branches to China. (The legal registration of the border was completed only in July 2008, when Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi signed an additional protocol describing the line of the Russian-Chinese border in its eastern part.


            https://nstarikov.ru/blog/33584

            Starikov's article about this reveals some details. hi
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 3 October 2016 16: 41
              +1
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              Starikov’s article about this reveals some details

              Starikov's article is silent about another problem. "The Manchurian Wedge".
              http://clubklad.ru/blog/article/1259/
              http://maxpark.com/community/4109/content/2650915
              These are links. Unfortunately, I did not find the maps of the "Manchurian Wedge"
          3. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 3 October 2016 08: 26
            +7
            You and hysteria first gave away Damansky island! Take and give back the Golan heights of Syria. That, weakly .. Or the blood of Israel is watered. You vote for your country. And we ourselves with a mustache!
            1. Professor
              Professor 3 October 2016 08: 43
              +1
              Once again for those in the tank. Damansky Island was given to China and where "pack of shakalya from around the world rush to tear the body of Russia"? wink
          4. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 3 October 2016 08: 28
            +5
            Just let it not be for something, but of good will. Give the Golan Heights!
          5. olegactor
            olegactor 3 October 2016 11: 39
            +2
            hear a Jew .... and you report pin ... dosov from the CIA read .... that from Russia should have remained by 2015
            1. Professor
              Professor 3 October 2016 11: 48
              +7
              Quote: olegactor
              hear a Jew .... and you report pin ... dosov from the CIA read .... that from Russia should have remained by 2015

              You are dear, learn the word first "Russia"write with a capital letter, and then give advice to adults. fool
          6. PValery53
            PValery53 3 October 2016 18: 07
            +1
            Citizen of Israel! "Well, given away" should not refer to Russia, but to our opponents and (if you want), to Israel. And the island of Domansky, invincible, will return home, to Russia, under the wiser (smarter) rulers of Russia.
      2. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 3 October 2016 07: 35
        +8
        Wiruz you don’t know the story well, Sakhalin wasn’t when it was Japanese! Half of the island was captured by the Japanese during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904
        1. murriou
          murriou 3 October 2016 21: 24
          +1
          .
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          Sakhalin was not when it was not Japanese

          With all due respect, in this case you are mistaken.

          There was a time when Sakhalin was a joint inseparable possession of Russia and Japan.
          There was a time when this uncertainty was resolved by exchange: Sakhalin is completely Russian, the Kuril Islands are completely Japanese.

          There was a long period from 1905 to 1945, when southern Sakhalin was Japanese both de jure and de facto.

          During this time, the northern part of Sakhalin was occupied by Japan in 1905 (they occupied the whole island in 1905, half were returned later) and in 1920-1925, i.e. this territory was de facto Japanese possession
      3. victorsh
        victorsh 3 October 2016 07: 37
        +10
        You do not know history well. On 22 of December 1786, by the registered decree of Catherine the Second, the Kuril Islands were declared an inseparable part of Russia.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 3 October 2016 07: 56
          +1
          Wiruz you don’t know the story well

          You don't know the story well

          Never been predisposed to the humanities winked
          1. novel66
            novel66 3 October 2016 09: 14
            +4
            I wouldn’t call history a purely humanitarian science, among purely humanitarians the Tatar-Mongols are born
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 3 October 2016 09: 52
              +3
              Quote: novel xnumx
              I wouldn’t call history a purely humanitarian science, among purely humanitarians the Tatar-Mongols are born

              Agree with you. History is more likely not a science, but the memory of the people about the glorious deeds of their ancestors. Remembering your history is the duty of every normal person, and historians invent a story that is beneficial to those who sponsor this "science" at one time or another.
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 3 October 2016 12: 42
            0
            Quote: Wiruz
            Never been predisposed to the humanities


            It makes you irresistible, smart and in demand. Congratulations. bully
      4. Svetlana
        Svetlana 3 October 2016 09: 45
        +2
        Quote: Wiruz
        As far as I remember the lessons of world history, the Kuril Islands, like Sakhalin, were "taken" from Japan by the Soviet Union as compensation for the war, just like Konigsberg from Germany.

        Remember badly. These are Russian lands since the heyday of the Russian Empire, when no one even dared to open their mouths and declare their claims to these lands. The territories were liberated by our troops during the 2 world war and returned to the USSR (Russia). The whole world in 1945 recognized this as fair.
    3. Vend
      Vend 3 October 2016 10: 05
      +1
      In connection with the annexation of Crimea to Russia, we stated that we did not recognize the changing situation in the world on the basis of military force.
      Well then, let's review the results of the Russo-Japanese War. Japan then received part of the territory of the Russian Empire. Japanese have a short memory laughing
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 3 October 2016 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: Hunter
      Well, how can you conduct a dialogue with them?


      And there is no need to conduct a dialogue on this topic. Our islands and the decision is not subject to review. And from the lack of a contract we are neither cold nor hot - 71 years without him we live and do not grieve. And let their Mikado and Prime Minister's ideas be thrust into ....
    5. Juborg
      Juborg 3 October 2016 13: 23
      +2
      While Japan is completely controlled by the United States, there is no question of signing any agreements with the Russian Federation. Any decision in the Japanese government is made after approval from the State Department. This is confirmed only by domestic Japanese scholars, but also by many Westerners. By and large, from the time of the USSR, we have practically not been engaged in Japan, and this is not buzzing.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 3 October 2016 16: 18
        0
        + And not only decisions are made with the approval of the Sga, but also, as I think, this problem with the Sga islands was created, and they throw firewood into the flames.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 3 October 2016 20: 13
          +1
          The GDP said that in order to start a discussion on the topic of the islands, we need trusting relationships, as with the PRC. And that means a lot of things:
          1. US bases.
          2. Independent foreign policy.
          3. SCO, AIIB, Greater Eurasia, the Silk Road and its economic belt, etc.
          4. Trade and joint economy. projects. Etc..
          VVP also said that everyone sees the "problem" from their own bell tower.
          In my opinion, it is Tokyo that needs an agreement and understanding from Russia after the Chinese work on the disputed islands. This was especially clearly manifested in the actions of ... Yu. Korea in Vladik. She talked about striving for a CU with the EAEU. The Japanese should rather separate flies from cutlets. Since it was up to everyone that our resource base can bring obvious competitive advantages over our neighbors. It is more expensive to haul those energy resources from the Persian Gulf than from neighboring Russia. Therefore, while the Japanese will separate the cutlets from the flies, all places under the sun can be occupied. Abe apparently understood this - that is why he was so emotional in Vladivostok. Will push against the islands - may remain at a broken trough.
          Moscow began work on an energy bridge to the Far East: Russia, Japan, China and Korea. Nice baited hook. Swallowed - with this "nishtyak" will not break. And for the "continuation of the banquet" you already have to demand something in return. The United States will have to "swallow" all this, because they will not be able to offer an alternative. Central Asia, BV, Europe and now the Far East are entering the Great Game of global players. But the trouble for the United States is that it’s too far to pull our hands, and in the case of Far East and Central Asia, another player has appeared - the PRC, which in this situation is far from being an ally of the United States. hi
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2016 06: 59
    +7
    a peace treaty with Russia will be signed only if “affiliation for all (4) islands is determined”.

    We have been living for 71 years without this agreement and can continue to live in peace. The President said that we "do not trade in territories." Let's see.
    1. Thor
      Thor 3 October 2016 07: 27
      +5
      What to watch?
      Yopov wedges, and wedge-wedge.
      It is necessary to overcome Hokaido, then they will immediately forget about the Kuril Islands am laughing
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 3 October 2016 07: 45
        +2
        It is necessary to overcome Hokaydo

        Who knows, maybe such a time will come.
        1. Hunt
          Hunt 3 October 2016 07: 56
          +3
          Quote: rotmistr60
          It is necessary to overcome Hokaydo

          Who knows, maybe such a time will come.

          At least, the legal framework under the recognition of Hokaido Russian - exists! Indigenous people, Ainu - subjects of the Russian Empire !!! Look, Japan - Dad, we will hold a referendum !!!!! good Yes soldier
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 3 October 2016 12: 47
        0
        Quote: Thor
        It is necessary to overcome Hokaido, then they will immediately forget about the Kuril Islands


        We don't need someone else's. First, let them return our (royal) gold, pay the Ainu compensation for the genocide, and only then (maybe) we will talk "for life." Yes
  3. VSZMK
    VSZMK 3 October 2016 07: 02
    +4
    What are the prospects for a compromise and a stable Japanese-Russian rapprochement in the current situation? Although surprises cannot be ruled out, Prime Minister Abe’s strong words and determination may not be enough. Back in early September, Putin in an interview, pointing to the prospects for a compromise, said that a maximum of two islands could be his subject. Even so, the question will remain open in what form Russia can transfer control to Japan. At the same time, the Russian president, answering the question what future of Japanese-Russian relations he sees in a crystal ball, retorted that only Russian national interests were such a ball for him.
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 3 October 2016 07: 38
      +1
      can you link where Putin spoke of two islands? belay
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 October 2016 07: 02
    +1
    Asia-s. These and yours, and ours, and yourself. laughing
    1. novel66
      novel66 3 October 2016 09: 15
      +2
      therefore - in opu!
  5. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 3 October 2016 07: 04
    +3
    So wait for the next prime minister of Japan. In the meantime, it is necessary to more seriously develop the Kuril Islands and build military bases there. The Russian Federation declared itself the successor of the USSR, and the USSR did not recognize tsarist treaties. Let Yars try not to recognize the results of the Second World War
    1. SSR
      SSR 3 October 2016 07: 16
      +2
      What do you expect from the next?
      I’ll tell you a little secret, they have a continuity of power, Shinzo’s grandfather was the prime minister and his father was the minister.
  6. Cat
    Cat 3 October 2016 07: 05
    +5
    Scha ... fled! Let's give half of Russia to the Ural Mountains ?!
    But seriously, the situation is stalemate. In this connection, the position of Russia should be unshakable. Protection of its territorial integrity up to the use of nuclear weapons.
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 October 2016 07: 07
    +6
    Hello Abe! Where is Crimea, and where is Japan! Sit on your islands and do not hang out, you are a representative of the occupied territory, so your place is under a broom. And the affiliation of the Kuril Islands has long been determined. Or do you want to review the results of World War II?
  8. Nmpanfil
    Nmpanfil 3 October 2016 07: 12
    +4
    How much money was spent on empty negotiations and conversations on the part of Japanese diplomacy, but they cannot understand a simple thing even in a clear statement of GDP - "..we do not trade territory .."
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 3 October 2016 09: 06
      0
      "but the negotiations were constructive and there is movement forward" fellow laughing
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 3 October 2016 12: 04
        0
        Right now I’m going to steal))))) Maybe the GDP has made a move forward, but Abe has structurally merged with the chair ....)))))) Well then, who has enough imagination for that))))
  9. Amurets
    Amurets 3 October 2016 07: 19
    +4
    According to Abe, a peace treaty with Russia will be signed only if "affiliation for all (4's) islands" is determined. We are talking about Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai.

    She is already defined. They belong to Russia.
    We have repeatedly advocated the rigorous implementation of the Minsk agreements, Japan calls for this not only Russia, but also Ukraine. However, I do not understand how this relates to the negotiations on the territories and the conclusion of a peace treaty.

    So work on Ukraine. Russians are a participant in the conflict.
    Quote: Fil743

    0
    Fil743 Today, 07:04 AM New
    So wait for the next prime minister. In the meantime, it is necessary to seriously develop the Kuril Islands and build military bases there

    Useless! This is a fetish of Japanese politicians. According to Ozhegov: "A fetish is a thing deified." In my opinion, a quiet madness. And the principle is an impossible dream.
  10. RUS96
    RUS96 3 October 2016 07: 24
    +4
    Quote: Hunter
    someone is worried that we do not have a peace treaty with the Japanese?

    I don’t .. us * t.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 3 October 2016 10: 06
      +2
      Joseph Vissarionovich also did not worry when he refused to sign a peace treaty concocted by the Americans with Japan. The results of the 2 World War were legally recorded at the Yalta Conference, which was signed by the participants of the victorious countries.
      "The fate of the Far East was fundamentally decided in a separate document. In exchange for entering the war with Japan, 2-3 months after the end of the war in Europe, the USSR received the Kuril Islands and South Sakhalin, lost in the Russo-Japanese war; Mongolia was recognized as an independent state. Port Arthur and the Chinese Eastern Railway (CER) were also promised to the Soviet side. "
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 3 October 2016 14: 49
      0
      It is spelled correctly: us .. to fight
  11. with
    with 3 October 2016 07: 26
    +6
    It's time for Russia to say openly that Japan's position in the "territorial dispute" does not exist, since Japan is a country actually occupied by the United States. "Dispute" solution = Japan's decision to start a new war on the side of its patron bandit. Only Russia is not going to occupy Japan. And there is something to answer to the aggressor.
    1. with
      with 3 October 2016 07: 28
      +2
      Come on, stop your cheap bazaar!
  12. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 3 October 2016 07: 27
    +1
    So I want to say this abe - squint! fool Because you can only look at our islands, and we live well without a peace treaty with you.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 3 October 2016 10: 15
      +2
      Well, maybe not everyone is living well, but this is another issue that for the Russian people has never had anything to do with someone’s groundless territorial claims. Russian land has no price and therefore is not for sale and does not change anything. We lose parts of our territories only during periods of our weakness and betrayal of temporary workers. The time will come when we will regain our former strength and all our lands lost at different times. I believe in it.
  13. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 October 2016 07: 36
    +2
    There is an option to die hard-handed! To say that we are renting one island to their sworn friends to the Chinese.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 October 2016 07: 39
    +6
    The absence of a "peace treaty" with Japan has never prevented either the USSR or Russia from trading with Japan. And they are very yum-yum our fish, and our hydrocarbons. But we have no desire to make OUR Sea of ​​Okhotsk international and let the Japanese go there. Does anyone really think that they really need these scraps of sushi - they have not mastered half of Hokkaido - TOO COLD!
    They need fish from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and they need a shelf! A shadow on the fence they bring the master!
  15. alexander 2
    alexander 2 3 October 2016 07: 46
    +1
    We may return these islands, but only after Alaska is returned to us. Or maybe we won’t refund it. In general, first return, and we will think.
  16. Yura
    Yura 3 October 2016 08: 02
    +2
    The Japanese prime minister replied that he did not see any connection between the Crimea and the Kuril Islands. According to Abe, Japan has already announced its position on the Crimean issue.
    I also do not see any connection between the Kuril Islands and Japan.
    We have repeatedly advocated the rigorous implementation of the Minsk agreements, Japan calls for this not only Russia, but also Ukraine. However, I do not understand how this relates to the negotiations on the territories and the conclusion of a peace treaty.
    Well, we, too, are in favor of strict compliance with the conditions of unconditional surrender that you have signed that you forever have no relation to the territories for which you repeatedly make claims to Russia, thereby violating the Helsinki Treaty each time: 1. Sovereign equality. 2. The non-use of force or the threat of its use. 3. Respect for sovereign rights. 4. Territorial integrity. Inviolability of borders. 5. Respect for freedoms and human rights. 6. Non-interference in domestic politics. 7. Equality of peoples and their right to independently decide their own destiny. 8. Interaction between countries. 9. Fulfillment of international legal obligations. - 10. Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/246123/helsinskiy-protsess-z
    aklyuchitelnyiy-akt-soveschaniya-po-bezopasnosti-
    i-sotrudnichestvu-v-europe
  17. Jack-b
    Jack-b 3 October 2016 08: 32
    +2
    According to Abe, a peace treaty with Russia will be signed only if "affiliation for all (4's) islands" is determined. We are talking about Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai.
    If you take the phrase taken out of context, then a peace treaty can already be concluded. The ownership of all the 4 islands is defined))))))
  18. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 3 October 2016 08: 57
    +1
    Do not bother Abe, he clearly and clearly appealed to Putin not to pass this unresolved problem to future generations .. He needs to keep a mark and not give reasons to internal nationalists to boycott the issue of peace negotiations and the conclusion of a peace treaty.
  19. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 3 October 2016 09: 05
    0
    If you change it ..... - However, I do not understand how this relates. [i] [/ i] - to transfer the 4 islands of Japan.
  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 3 October 2016 09: 25
    +2
    Abe has denied recent reports in the Japanese press that he is ready to sign a peace treaty with Russia
    that is, you can wet the Japs?
  21. PKK
    PKK 3 October 2016 09: 44
    +2
    By including "Fool", this is a Japanese, undermines the authority of the rest of the Japanese. We begin to doubt their adequacy.
  22. Titsen
    Titsen 3 October 2016 09: 49
    0
    Do we need Japanese islands?

    Or let China take them?
  23. OlegV
    OlegV 3 October 2016 10: 02
    +3
    Quote: Hunter
    Well, how can you conduct a dialogue with them? ........


    Indeed .... they are at the door, they are at the window ... and everything is the same ....
  24. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 3 October 2016 10: 43
    +2
    Quote: Hunter
    Well, how can you conduct a dialogue with them? The affiliation of the four islands has long been determined! This is Russian land! And another question torments me, someone worries that we do not have a peace treaty with the Japanese?

    They go by the forest! Our Kuril Islands!
  25. iouris
    iouris 3 October 2016 10: 44
    +1
    How much promise per square kilometer, in what currency and to whom?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 October 2016 11: 15
      +3
      In no case may the Kuril Islands be given away.
      Not only did we win the right to them in a bloody four-year war in which we lost about 30 million lives of our citizens, a third of our industry and a huge number of destroyed cities and villages, but by refusing them we are creating a precedent that Germany will queue up for Japan and then someone else "asks" for a piece of Russia ..
      Not to give, let alone sell the islands for money or technology, and further "friendship" with Japan is impossible.
  26. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 3 October 2016 11: 01
    +3
    Professor,
    and who are you to propose, will you propose in Israel? You just need to implement UN resolutions!
  27. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 3 October 2016 11: 02
    +2
    There is nothing to say with the occupied country. We missed the Americans in the Kuril Islands.
  28. Elephant
    Elephant 3 October 2016 11: 43
    +1
    A hole to them from a donut or from a sleeve vest!
  29. Warrior with machine gun
    Warrior with machine gun 3 October 2016 11: 50
    +8
    the islands lost according to the results of Russian-Japanese, returned according to the results of 2 MB, what questions? want to return, forward to attack, but not enough for hist, then there’s nothing to talk about, especially with the Japanese position on Crimea
  30. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 3 October 2016 12: 05
    +2
    Abe is well aware that Russia will not give up these islands and the question of this is regularly raised for internal use, to earn or maintain a rating in Japan itself.
    This is from the same opera as ".. and Carthage must be destroyed!" ..)
    1. murriou
      murriou 3 October 2016 21: 28
      0
      However, Carthage eventually destroyed lol
  31. win
    win 3 October 2016 12: 46
    +5
    Japan does not want so much territories as marine resources near these islands

    to select the fishing industry of this region and blocking the access to the ocean of the Russian fleet

    direct entry into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk from the Pacific Ocean for mattress


    This, of course, is all good. But all this is just a cover for basic intentions.
    The main thing - they need to capture the island Iturup.
    They found a rare earth element RHENIUM
    . Moreover, its ore content is a record.
    And the properties of rhenium are so amazing that the scope is expanding.
    Characteristics of missiles, aircraft engines, armor for tanks, electronics dramatically improve. At times, the efficiency of the catalysts for producing high-octane gasoline increases.
    Prices are an order of magnitude greater than gold.
    There are several large deposits in the world, for example, in Chile, Finland, Kazakhstan ... There were no problems in the USSR, but now the hands of the USA, China, Japan are reaching for the Dzhezkazgan deposit with well-priced offers and it’s hard for Kazakhstan to resist.
    Russia procured rhenium on the side, and this is a strategic raw material. And so Iturup.
    Russia is stepping forward. The global strategic balance is being violated.

    RENIUM is rockets, planes, tanks, gasoline, electronics ...
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 3 October 2016 16: 39
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      "Rhenium is scattered all over the world, in negligible concentrations. Only one serious deposit of this metal is reliably known - Iturup, a small island in the Kuril Islands, Russia. Discovered in 1992, Rhenium is represented there by the mineral rhenium ReS2, which has a structure similar to molybdenite.
      The deposit is a small area at the top of a dormant volcano, where thermal springs are active. This indicates that the field continues to grow, and according to preliminary estimates, it releases about 37 tons of this metal into the atmosphere annually. "
      Extraction of rhenium on the volcano is a rather non-trivial task and it has not yet been solved.
      In addition, the Russian industry is unlikely to use more than 2-3 tons of rhenium per year. Considering the prices for it, they can change and also become worse due to the degree of purification, take the average price of 5-6 thousand dollars per kg, which means a couple of tons, this is about 12 million dollars, while investments in infrastructure and production will be orders of magnitude more .
      I think that as long as relations with Japan are as they are now, they will not build anything on Iturup, except for military facilities.
  32. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 3 October 2016 13: 18
    +6
    At the same time, Mr. Abe had to answer the question of whether Japan would have to recognize Crimea as Russian in negotiations with Russia? The Japanese prime minister replied that he did not see any connection between the Crimea and the Kuril Islands.

    And Russia does not see any connection between the Kuril Islands and Japan laughing
  33. darksoul
    darksoul 3 October 2016 14: 35
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    handsome, in common people it’s called to eat a fish and on x ... don’t sit down, it doesn’t happen
  34. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 3 October 2016 14: 41
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    It’s even easier for us to declare a war (dirty paper) in which case we don’t need to ...
  35. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 3 October 2016 14: 48
    +1
    Quote: Svetlana
    Well, maybe not everyone is living well, but this is another issue that for the Russian people has never had anything to do with someone’s groundless territorial claims. Russian land has no price and therefore is not for sale and does not change anything. We lose parts of our territories only during periods of our weakness and betrayal of temporary workers. The time will come when we will regain our former strength and all our lands lost at different times. I believe in it.

    Well said!
  36. Phosgene
    Phosgene 3 October 2016 14: 52
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    Russia must declare that it will not give Japan a single rock, not a single island. Those who advocate transferring the land of the Russian Federation to foreign states have no place in Russia! ALL the Kuril Islands, this is Russia!
  37. Papapg
    Papapg 3 October 2016 15: 21
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    If there is no peace treaty, then you can safely capture them, collect all kinds of trophies, conduct raids on Japanese rear services, and much more, and such acts should not be punishable here. It's time to collect volunteers. But really, why do we need a peace treaty if there was unconditional surrender? Take what you want and how much you want, they took a little more.
  38. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 3 October 2016 15: 40
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    Yes, let the Japanese push themselves the draft of this treaty in one place. The judgments themselves on this subject are blasphemy on the blood of the dead Russian and Soviet soldiers. There is nothing to talk about with them at all, for the staffers the jackals are trying to descendants. The only answer is to turn all the Kuril Islands into an impregnable fortress!
  39. Mentat
    Mentat 3 October 2016 17: 11
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    Quote: professor
    Quote: 30 vis
    They gave, hypothetically, three square meters of our land with the best intentions. And a pack of jackals from all over the world will rush to tear up the body of Russia. Like - "Akela missed !!" Nothing good and good, and even more so to give the land taken by the blood of our ancestors is NOT ALLOWED! Already so much has been given that the return of the Russian Crimea is worth the cost of the ovs - American partners in the city. I gave it away, but try yours then return it!

    Well, they gave the island of Damasno, so what? And where is the pack of jackals from all over the world who will "rush to tear the body of Russia"? request

    The situation around Damansky is, in fact, crocheting, and not territory as a result of the war. The case of the Kuril Islands is completely different: the geopolitical, economic and military meanings differ by orders of magnitude. These are territories the section of which, following WWII results, is recognized as an inviolable principle throughout the world.

    Therefore, the whining of Japan on this topic is nothing more than an informational occasion and political trickery.
    1. Cat
      Cat 3 October 2016 20: 42
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      Moreover, the Chinese thoroughly tried with shovels to get the Domansky Peninsula instead of the island.
      And in fact, the border is drawn along the Amur channel.
  40. kg pv
    kg pv 3 October 2016 20: 03
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    Well, it's all the little things))) The main thing is to meet the new Mitsubishi Pajero ....
  41. Jubilee
    Jubilee 3 October 2016 20: 14
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    Japan is occupied by the SGA until 2095 and fulfills all their commands
  42. Cat
    Cat 3 October 2016 20: 49
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    Professor,
    There is a constructive proposal that prevents you from returning the Golan Heights to Syria, the Muslims of Irusalim, etc. I propose to set an example.
  43. murriou
    murriou 3 October 2016 21: 27
    +1
    Quote: Svetlana
    Remembering your story is the duty of every normal person, and historians think up such a story.

    Scientists just should not invent, but find objective truth.

    And the fact that such "normal people" are raving about their history, unable to explain the origin of their fantasies, passed off as knowledge - this is where the very delirium drives on fiction.
  44. Aleksandr777
    Aleksandr777 4 October 2016 09: 13
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    About a dead donkey their ears, not the Kuril Islands.