NASA discusses the purchase of seats at the Russian Soyuz in 2019.

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NASA began discussing the purchase of additional seats on the Russian Soyuz series ships to deliver their astronauts to the ISS, despite the possible dissatisfaction of the US Congress, reports RIA News Post ArsTechnica.

NASA discusses the purchase of seats at the Russian Soyuz in 2019.




“NASA retains the hope that Boeing or SpaceX will be able to build a reusable manned spacecraft by the beginning of 2018. However, Boeing has already announced that the Starliner project is already limited by the production deadline, and the recent incident with the SpaceX Falcon 9 company also makes inevitable a delay in commissioning the Dragon ship, ”the publication says.

NASA is also talking about possible additional delays that "will not allow Russia to refuse assistance" after 2018 g (this year the contract with the Russian side expires).

According to open data, one seat on the Soyuz costs the US space agency $ 81,9 million.

RIA "News»Recalls that a month ago (September 1), on the launch pad at Cape Canaveral, in preparation for the firing test, the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket exploded. The explosion occurred "during the refueling of the rocket with fuel, approximately eight minutes before the launch of nine rocket engines."



As a result, both the launch vehicle itself and the Israeli satellite AMOS-6 were lost.

According to SpaceX head Ilona Mask, “the Falcon incident was the most difficult and difficult company failure in 14 years.” The company does not rule out a version of sabotage organized by competitors from the United Launch Alliance (ULA).

As the Washington Post newspaper noted, “SpaceX and ULA are tough competitors fighting for defense contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars” (ULA is a joint venture of Lockheed Martin and Boeing).
  • NASA Johnson, EUTERS / US Launch Report
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  1. +4
    2 October 2016 11: 46
    And we have extra places there, so it turns out we need to increase the frequency of flights.
    For your money, any whim.
    1. +38
      2 October 2016 11: 54
      Quote: katalonec2014
      For your money, any whim.

      And here, just, you can bargain: remember both Ukraine and Syria, and you shouldn't forget about WADA. If you do not agree, let them take their "antidepressants" that they give to their athletes: after taking them, you can "fly away" wherever you want. smile
      1. +6
        2 October 2016 12: 01
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Yes, and about WADA do not forget

        There was an article on the Star, or rather a note, the creator of Mildonia personally spoke with WADA, where he explained in detail how Meldonius works, to which WADA said that he would think about lifting the ban on the use of Mildonium.
        1. +7
          2 October 2016 12: 05
          Today there was information that milldonium was officially recognized as a dope.
          1. +7
            2 October 2016 13: 37
            Mildonia got drunk Ilon Max and turned his shame into a feat, the rocket exploded, and he made a presentation about flying to Mars, of course with shocking cartoons. And the engine they had was Merlin, magical, it was really better to call Goodwin ... And also a Jewish teacher exploded in the challenger, and the first Israeli astronaut in Colombia, now the satellite scattered at the start, it’s necessary, in short, to do something urgently with this ( someone doesn’t let him go to heaven), NASA must be sent to the first manned Berl Lazar, so we’ll see how the pace behaves in zero gravity ...
            1. +4
              2 October 2016 19: 53
              "even in the Challenger a Jewish teacher exploded, and in Colombia the first Israeli astronaut, now the satellite scattered at the start," ////

              Conspiracy? bully from now on we will be vigilant ...
            2. 0
              3 October 2016 10: 23
              the rocket to Mars from Ilona Mask stars on Cape Canaveral even more chic and beautiful.

              stocking up with popcorn.
        2. +4
          2 October 2016 12: 48
          so in the NHL it was not banned
        3. +4
          2 October 2016 14: 44
          Quote: katalonec2014
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Yes, and about WADA do not forget

          There was an article on the Star, or rather a note, the creator of Mildonia personally spoke with WADA, where he explained in detail how Meldonius works, to which WADA said that he would think about lifting the ban on the use of Mildonium.

          this wada must be declared doping, meldonium, cocaine and gypsy feces all rolled into one
        4. +6
          3 October 2016 12: 07
          while these brakes think two more Olympiads will pass, so think about ext. places for these asronauts can also be somewhere until 2040
      2. +35
        2 October 2016 12: 23
        astronauts at Mir station

        Did I miss something? in my opinion, the World was flooded with 10 years ago, and yes, we’ll bring their cosmonauts to the World with pleasure. fellow
        1. +2
          2 October 2016 13: 40
          Let Ilon Max send them there.
        2. mad
          +2
          2 October 2016 13: 53
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Did I miss something? in my opinion, the World was flooded with 10 years ago, and yes, we’ll bring their cosmonauts to the World with pleasure.


          This is from the test trampolines last brain shocked wassat
        3. +3
          2 October 2016 17: 19
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Did I miss something? In my opinion, the World was flooded about 10 years ago,

          Absolutely, the Mir orbital station was flooded in the Pacific Ocean on March 23 already in 2001.
        4. 0
          3 October 2016 06: 09
          yes you missed everything. WORLD - it was the preserve of the whole nation - and right now another nation has already represented us (Russians) as decades of hell with the help of its most powerful media. today you can look at the nation z (series) the last series of the last season (released today) and you will understand who and where the ball is going to rule.
          1. +1
            3 October 2016 06: 52
            Quote: gavrosh.ru
            YOU will understand who and where the ball rules.

            CONSPIRACY !!! am lol
      3. 0
        2 October 2016 14: 37
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: katalonec2014
        For your money, any whim.

        And here, just, you can bargain: ...

        so 82 straps are at the checkout so to speak, and at the entrance you have to ask two three times more expensive
        1. +3
          2 October 2016 18: 11
          Nah, send astronaut 82 lyam, but return ..... entrance ruble, exit 10.
      4. win
        +20
        2 October 2016 15: 44
        Yesterday at the ISS, the astronauts celebrated the birthday of their American colleague, and also made three spacewalks. Smoke twice, and once explained to a colleague who is in charge of the ISS !!!
      5. +2
        2 October 2016 22: 35
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And here, just, you can bargain

        Or maybe them, let them jump from a trampoline.
      6. +1
        3 October 2016 06: 50
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And here, just, you can bargain: remember Ukraine and Syria, and WADA should not be forgotten

        Do not forget the 1918 intervention, well, you can throw a couple of lemons for Alaska wink
    2. +7
      2 October 2016 11: 56
      They grit their teeth, but they won’t come anywhere with a request, and we will look at their behavior and inflation ...
      1. +7
        2 October 2016 12: 07
        But we, too, must not stand still, but continue to develop manned flights. How long can you fly, practically on the brainchild of the Queen. Where are all the "Clippers" and others?
        1. 0
          2 October 2016 18: 15
          For the current tasks, the Royal scheme is optimal, Clipper also has dirty tricks like glued carbon plates, for obvious reasons they refuse these schemes, the shuttle crew died, why do we need our mistakes
        2. +1
          3 October 2016 06: 54
          Quote: lelikas
          Where are all the "Clippers" and others?

          At Exhibitions of Achievements smile and in museums! Where can they be?
    3. +3
      2 October 2016 12: 31
      Let Ukrainians buy a slingshot and go to the stars.
      1. 0
        3 October 2016 19: 37
        Quote: papas-57
        Let Ukrainians buy a slingshot and go to the stars.

        Why not with us? Everything has already been developed - worked out and tested! smile
    4. +3
      2 October 2016 15: 47
      I would impose sanctions on flights of mattresses. not much to lose
      1. 0
        3 October 2016 19: 45
        Quote: Sterlya
        I would impose sanctions on flights of mattresses. not much to lose

        Yes, just 60 million dollars from the head! For our space industry - zilch, is not it? smile We can burn "katenka" to find the ruble under the table, it is so wide - the Russian soul! wink
    5. 0
      3 October 2016 00: 28
      Let them pay in rubles for seats on the Soyuz. Then let's see what their Fed will sing with its Russian subsidiary.laughing
  2. +2
    2 October 2016 11: 47
    Well, where to go ... advertising advertising (Musk and other budget development projects are not yet flyable) ... but apart from the UNION of cosmonauts and other astronauts there is nothing to carry ... well, of course you can go to China to bow to ... not the fact that it will be successful ...
    1. win
      +8
      2 October 2016 15: 47
      “Do you know that the Ursa Major constellation wants to be renamed the Ursa Major constellation?”
      “No, why?”
      - Just before the telescopes were not so powerful, not everything could be seen ...
  3. jjj
    +3
    2 October 2016 11: 48
    "Spes-X" began a period of miscalculations and a streak of failures. Did they think that everything would go like clockwork by itself? And what would the "exceptional" people do without Russia?
    1. +5
      2 October 2016 14: 04
      They assumed that everything would be as smooth as with moon expeditions. lol
      1. +1
        2 October 2016 20: 45
        "as with lunar expeditions."
        ) - In this case, they do not have to pay Russia, only to their video operators and directors, although perhaps they have collected an amount exceeding ours - nothing personal, only business. )))
      2. 0
        3 October 2016 20: 44
        Quote: Igor V
        They assumed that everything would be as smooth as with moon expeditions.

        I'll see how you laugh in a few years! smile And most likely -
  4. +1
    2 October 2016 11: 52
    Do not carry them, let them jump from the trampoline.
    1. +1
      3 October 2016 06: 59
      Quote: Russian Alexey
      Do not carry them, let them jump from the trampoline.

      The trampoline is busy - there Rogozin jumps! wassat
  5. +2
    2 October 2016 11: 52
    Pass for travel. There are no benefits. laughing
  6. 0
    2 October 2016 11: 53
    It is a pity the article does not specify the cost of delivery to Space X, are they capable of competing with us in the future?
    I understand that it’s not quite a topic, but maybe Moder blinks this time.
    1. +2
      2 October 2016 12: 52
      Quote: katalonec2014
      It is a pity the article does not specify the cost of delivery to Space X, are they capable of competing with us in the future?

      One U.S. General recently voiced the cost of a bed for a Yankontha on Orion / Dragon. It is expected to be 20% cheaper than in the Union, provided the reusable first stage. That is, somewhere 195 cartoons cost the ship. The launch of the Union, 3 years was announced at 70 million. What kind of competition is there. Ours are already flying, competitors are only going to
  7. +2
    2 October 2016 11: 54
    It would be necessary to increase the price per place ...
    1. win
      +8
      2 October 2016 15: 50
      At the international space station, Russian astronauts are sitting, playing cards.
      An American astronaut flies up and asks on the radio:
      - Ready for docking?
      - Ready, ready ...
      - Does the station's orientation correspond to option A-23?
      - Conform, conform ...
      - I am carrying out a maneuver No. 41!
      - Do what you want...
      - How to dock?
      - Yes, as you want, so produce!
      - What is it like?
      - Spell: Zinaida, Anna, Elena, Boris, Anna, Leonid ...
  8. +2
    2 October 2016 11: 56
    There is no need to skimp - a matter of price. (If everything settles down).
  9. +8
    2 October 2016 11: 58
    Falcon 9 rocket exploded

    And it burns beautifully
    1. 0
      3 October 2016 20: 52
      Quote: Barracuda
      And it burns beautifully

  10. +2
    2 October 2016 11: 58
    The company does not exclude the version of sabotage organized by competitors from the United Launch Alliance (ULA).

    They don’t think correctly. These were people from RSC Energia.
    1. +2
      2 October 2016 20: 56
      Yes, plus there are only three options for the development of events:
      1. Destroyed by a Russian missile, such as "BUK".
      2. Cynically bombed a flock of Russian bombers with cast-iron "not high-precision" bombs.
      3. Engines were bought ON the outskirts.
      In any case, WE are to blame ...
      1. +2
        2 October 2016 21: 33
        Quote: KondratKo
        3. Engines were bought ON the outskirts.

        Likely......
      2. 0
        3 October 2016 07: 03
        Quote: KondratKo
        Engines were bought on the outskirts

        He said how I served fart smile Main engines 9 × Merlin 1D+
    2. +6
      3 October 2016 12: 21
      it’s just a state-run baryzny approach, my pan will not fly, no one will fly, and space does not like it
  11. +4
    2 October 2016 12: 00
    Yesterday morning, September 1st laughing
  12. +5
    2 October 2016 12: 01
    NASA began discussing the purchase of additional seats on Russian Soyuz spacecraft for the delivery of its astronauts to Mir station belay

    To the bottom of the window, or what? Why do they need "Unions"? laughing So let them drown, from the "Zumvolts" laughing
    I understand that the ISS was meant, but this is not even a typo, but I do not know what ...
  13. +1
    2 October 2016 12: 01
    Maybe in a time machine? To the station "Mir"!
  14. +5
    2 October 2016 12: 09
    "They will not allow to refuse the help of Russia"

    And allows you to extend sanctions and wage information war? For the price you can really talk separately.
    1. +3
      2 October 2016 12: 16
      Quote: rotmistr60
      "They will not allow to refuse the help of Russia"

      And allows you to extend sanctions and wage information war? For the price you can really talk separately.

      Yes! 491.4 million dollars is not the price ... The amount should cover the loss from sanctions. Why does our government make unilateral concessions, and constantly? I don’t think that they don’t understand this.
  15. +1
    2 October 2016 12: 09
    "Every whim for your money".
  16. +3
    2 October 2016 12: 10
    Not so long ago
    US President Barack Obama said that thanks to the United States, Russia allegedly found itself in international isolation, and its economy was "torn to shreds."

    Nevertheless, asking for help from us
    NASA began a discussion on the purchase of additional seats on Russian spacecraft of the Soyuz series for the delivery of its astronauts to the Mir station, despite the possible dissatisfaction of the US Congress,

    And the reason for the failures is supposedly a kind of sabotage, even the suspicion of competitors falls
    According to the head of SpaceX, Elon Musk, “the incident with Falcon was the most difficult and complex failure of the company in 14 years.” The company does not exclude the version of sabotage organized by competitors from the United Launch Alliance (ULA)

    there is a good answer to this from the Russian proverb: "A bad dancer ... (something) hinders"
    But it would not be better to drop the policy of pressure on Russia and explore space together, they would have advanced far ...!
    1. +1
      2 October 2016 12: 20
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      But it would not be better to drop the policy of pressure on Russia and explore space together, they would have advanced far ...!

      Such cooperation is possible only by transferring the latest technologies to each other, which are easily used by the Indian in military development ... they will never do it, their goal is known, undeniable global leadership.
    2. +3
      2 October 2016 21: 37
      I still don’t understand - are we still torn to shreds or not?
  17. +2
    2 October 2016 12: 14
    NASA discusses the issue of buying seats on the Russian Soyuz in 2019

    A place in Soyuz is now very, very expensive bully
    According to SpaceX head Ilona Mask, “the Falcon incident was the most difficult and difficult company failure in 14 years.” The company does not rule out a version of sabotage organized by competitors from the United Launch Alliance (ULA).
    Well, let it bite. Let the mask scratch tales about sabotage.
    1. 0
      3 October 2016 12: 08
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, let it bite. Let the mask scratch tales about sabotage.

      I remember how they were here "scratching" about sabotage, after a series of unsuccessful launches of our missiles. smile
  18. +1
    2 October 2016 12: 17
    Sorry, Americans, but all services only after the cancellation of mutual sanctions.
  19. HAM
    +1
    2 October 2016 12: 17
    Something Rogozin calmed down, then not a day without comment, then disappeared somewhere. Does the trampolines prepare ..?
    1. 0
      3 October 2016 21: 01
      Quote: HAM
      Something Rogozin calmed down, then not a day without comment, then disappeared somewhere. Does the trampolines prepare ..?

      Experiencing! smile
  20. +3
    2 October 2016 12: 31
    NASA is discussing the issue of buying seats on Russian Soyuz in 2019

    Late they realized it, the stationary seats were sold out until 2020, only the second-level officers remained. Welcome!
  21. +1
    2 October 2016 12: 46
    Who who wants to go to Mars?
  22. +2
    2 October 2016 13: 07
    It seems ours stated that soon they would send only 2 cosmonauts. And one of them will certainly be Russian (because the engineers are only ours), and the rest will be on a competitive basis. Business and only business.
  23. +1
    2 October 2016 13: 09
    At times such a thing, soon dudes in caps will walk near us and offer "ara, to whom for an international space, inexpensive"
  24. +3
    2 October 2016 13: 11
    And at the same time, let Congress allocate a couple of billions for the design and creation of the toilet. Ne.hre.n in our "walk". Or, as before - go to diapers.
  25. +2
    2 October 2016 13: 17
    Does the author not know that Mir was flooded long ago?
    1. win
      +2
      2 October 2016 16: 10
      Someone below the priest's belt, and someone has a mind. In space there are no concepts of top-bottom, right-left.
  26. +8
    2 October 2016 13: 21
    How hard it is to imagine that the Americans would have launched onto their shuttles or other ships, had it been the other way around. Surely, they loudly advertised, would have sanctioned closed the road to space. It’s good that everything is wrong - thanks I’ve touched fathers and grandfathers!
  27. +1
    2 October 2016 14: 27
    Hmm, trampolines with prednisone and hydromorphone do not help to see. What can you do? Again we need to address the "bad guys" Russians.
    1. win
      +3
      2 October 2016 14: 47
      Again, we need to address the "bad guys" Russians.

      The press service of Roscosmos confirmed that the Russian crew of the ISS will be reduced from three to two people, starting in March 2017.
      The reduction of the crew will temporarily free up one seat on the Soyuz spacecraft for flights to and from the station.
      "We discussed with our partners the possibility of providing this place to them. We expect that they will show interest," Krikalev said after the conference, adding that Russia does not plan to sell the vacated space on the ship to space tourists
  28. +3
    2 October 2016 14: 29
    Quote: Barracuda
    And at the same time let Congress allocate a couple of billions to design and create a toilet.

    ------------------------------------
    What for? Astronauts of the "empire of good" pee with nectar and poop with butterflies. Verified by WADA. laughing
  29. Zus
    0
    2 October 2016 14: 46
    Mericosa on the trampoline !! On the trampoline .....
  30. 0
    2 October 2016 15: 03
    Our toilet is already working with overload. What for are these ??
    1. 0
      2 October 2016 17: 39
      So they buy toilet seats
  31. win
    +4
    2 October 2016 15: 36
    In outer space. American astronaut:
    - Houston, we have problems ... The Russians said that you broke off cooperation with Roscosmos in all directions, is that true?
    - Yes, why?
    - Well, in general, they offered me to come back on the way !!!
  32. 0
    2 October 2016 17: 38
    NASA began a discussion on the purchase of additional seats on Russian Soyuz spacecraft for the delivery of its astronauts to Mir station, despite the possible dissatisfaction of the US Congress.

    On March 23, 2001, the MIR station was flooded, so what can we help with bags for corpses and send it to the station.
  33. +4
    2 October 2016 18: 05
    And they are definitely going to fly to the Mir station? Here it seems like a bathyscaphe is more necessary. And we will leave our cosmonauts' places on the Soyuz.
  34. 0
    2 October 2016 18: 48
    No negotiations, no places, for all that was and is likely to be, it is impossible to deal with them, for any money ... it would be better to transport the Syrians and Paralympics to outer space, there will be more benefit.
  35. 0
    2 October 2016 19: 03
    Quote: katalonec2014
    And we have extra places there, so it turns out we need to increase the frequency of flights.
    For your money, any whim.

    Business is nothing personal. So this place will be considered as a business class, not 80 lemons of greens, but a billion, nothing personal.
  36. +2
    2 October 2016 19: 06
    Quote: Siegen
    In outer space. American astronaut:
    - Houston, we have problems ... The Russians said that you broke off cooperation with Roscosmos in all directions, is that true?
    - Yes, why?
    - Well, in general, they offered me to come back on the way !!!

    What did the Americans actually find on the moon?
    Empty packs of cigarettes Belomorkanal.
  37. +2
    2 October 2016 19: 09
    one place on the Soyuz costs the American space agency $ 81,9 million - is it almost for nothing for a country that prints these same $, and sanctions and compensations for them ??? They wouldn’t have been petty and refused, well, they would have bought a little less American papers and all that, but striped ones — would have appreciated the sanctions that have been introduced and what it all came to for themselves.
  38. 0
    2 October 2016 20: 12
    We sell places in the "Union". Expensive. bully
  39. 0
    2 October 2016 21: 05
    While traveling in the desert, Ivan and Abram found a sack. In one crackers, in the other money. Abram grabbed a bag of money, Ivan got crackers. How long the journey was short, I don't know. However, Abram got hungry and offered to play in the bazaar. Ivan agreed and put the price on a biscuit - a bag of money. (The journey was coming to an end.) Abram was indignant: "expensive." "And you walk around the bazaar, bargain"
  40. 0
    2 October 2016 21: 55
    discussion of the purchase of additional seats on Russian ships of the Soyuz series for the delivery of their astronauts to the Mir station,
    I did not want to spoil the holiday for people, but the Mir station lies at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean ....
  41. +1
    2 October 2016 22: 10
    Quote: katalonec2014
    And we have extra places there, so it turns out we need to increase the frequency of flights.
    For your money, any whim.

    Here it is the greed of Russian inhabitants and statesmen. Only give money to you. Shish to them, not a place in the Unions. Let them stop all military operations around the world, withdraw their troops from overseas military bases and destroy nuclear weapons unilaterally. Only then can you cooperate with the Americans in Peaceful Space.
    Otherwise, let them forget about the Cosmos!
  42. 0
    2 October 2016 22: 18
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "even in the Challenger a Jewish teacher exploded, and in Colombia the first Israeli astronaut, now the satellite scattered at the start," ////

    Conspiracy? bully from now on we will be vigilant ...

    Israel cannot organize its security system at the spaceport in the United States. This is a US national security issue. Foreign intelligence and troops are not allowed there, only single quantities.
  43. +1
    2 October 2016 22: 29
    as they still didn’t say that Russia brought down the Falcon? And it’s enough to sell either engines for missiles or places on Russian ships !!! sanctions means sanctions !!!!!!!
  44. win
    +3
    2 October 2016 23: 01
    Americans! Note! Others also train on a trampoline.
    Competition!

  45. 0
    2 October 2016 23: 47
    NASA began a discussion on the purchase of additional seats on Russian Soyuz spacecraft for the delivery of its astronauts to Mir station,

  46. 0
    3 October 2016 00: 21
    Him about the priest and he about the deacon
  47. 0
    3 October 2016 03: 20
    With anyone else, besides us, is carrying people into orbit?
  48. 0
    3 October 2016 03: 27
    Apparently appreciated the prospects of manned astronautics with the help of a trampoline and realized that we needed seats in the Unions ....
  49. 0
    3 October 2016 07: 18
    More competition good and different in the stronghold of democracy
  50. +7
    3 October 2016 12: 04
    what places for these pigs, let them hitchhike, they shit on Earth as they can and take them to the ISS, this "superpower" only knows how to kill and destroy, it would be so good to leave them without a manned space, let them themselves barrack and hawala their exclusivity, from which others are already sick
  51. 0
    3 October 2016 16: 30
    Билеты им продать только туда, а за обратные им нужно будет очень сильно нас удивить ценой.
  52. 0
    4 October 2016 21: 01
    а ещё первыми на Луне прогулялись. матрацное позорище! Украина-ЖРД, а мы места на Союзах по рыночным ценам с учётом санкций и по курсу 67коп за грин. шутка, но почему б не заработать.

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