USC: in the near future it is not planned to build an atomic aircraft carrier

The United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) does not plan in the foreseeable future to start building a nuclear aircraft carrier, according to RIA News with reference to USC President Alexei Rakhmanov.

“Nuclear aircraft carrier, I do not know what you are talking about. There's no such thing", - said Rakhmanov, answering the question about the possibilities and terms of building the ship.

Earlier, the head of USC reported that the construction of new aircraft carriers will be possible only after the modernization of shipyards, which is scheduled to be completed by 2019.

As for the construction of the newest destroyer of the “Leader” type, there is still a lot of work here.

“Before him for a long time. Another conceptual project has not been developed, so for a very long time, ” - said Rakhmanov.

Earlier, the vice-president of the corporation, Igor Rakhmanov, reported that at present the Ministry of Defense is reviewing the conceptual project 23560 "Leader". The development of a technical project and documentation will begin only in the event of a positive decision by the department. The timing of the development will also be determined by the military under the contract to be concluded.

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[Bath]

Oh, and how much dough could be cut on it 100500 Zakharchenkov

[OLD FART]

And yet, I think they are planning .... An expensive project, of course, but in the future Russia will need it, definitely!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: STARPER

but in the future Russia will need it, definitely!

Is Russia planning offensive operations away from its borders ?!

[Hunt]

Excuse me, but Syria - what is the nearest suburbs? In my opinion, you do not understand well the strategy of using aircraft carriers! And our country's interests may appear anywhere in the world. You can no longer fight on your territory !!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hunter

Excuse me, but Syria - what is the nearest suburbs? ...

well, so far they are coping without it
any weapon should justify the funds spent on its creation, if the task can be performed using a dozen "torpedo boats", then it is absolutely not necessary to build a "battleship"

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

well, so far they are coping without it

Do you want to build 1000 military bases around the world?
How tired amateurs talk about "offensive weapons".

[katalonec2014]

Quote: Hunter

And the interests of our country may appear

Yes, you are right, you are right three hundred times, but we have serious problems with money, sanctions are not sanctions, and oil is cheap.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hunter

And our country's interests may appear anywhere in the world. You can no longer fight on your territory !!!

be so kind, name the possible theater of operations as well as the goals and objectives that should be solved on them
this or that weapon is not an end in itself, it is a tool, but it should be selected exclusively from the tasks set, by the way, what tasks should the AUG be solving in the Middle East theater of operations ?!

[INTER]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Is Russia planning offensive operations away from its borders ?!

Are airplanes worse than aircraft carriers? For example, a modernized KM!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: STARPER

but in the future Russia will need it, definitely!

Is Russia planning offensive operations away from its borders ?!

What confuses you?
We are conducting joint exercises of the Navy, for example, with China in the South China Sea.
And in Mediterranean, we would still have a full-fledged nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, oh, how it would not interfere with helping our Aerospace Forces, and our ship group would be completely closed!

[sub307]

"Unambiguously" - probably, or maybe ..., as described - in the "indefinite future tense" ....
In the First World War, Russia had (appeared!) Deliveries with a "tarpaulin" for boots .... But, alas, "mine" - "the spoon is good for dinner." The main thing is that without "us" they do not "dine" ... And, in general, "we have matured" naval doctrine ".., or" matures "more. We recall 17 moments: MUELLER -" If 9 pregnant women are gathered in one place - a baby in a month will still not be born ... ".

[There is an opinion]

Not needed. At all. We are a continental power and our theater of operations is the closest NATO countries.

[NordUral]

Please tell me, why do we need aircraft carriers? We have such a perimeter of borders that we need to scrape together resources for this, to cover them.

[There is an opinion]

Avics are not needed for cover, they are an instrument of aggression. Coastal defenses and a mosquito fleet are needed for cover.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Bath

Oh, and how much dough could be cut on it 100500 Zakharchenkov

You do not regret it in any way.

[GSH-18]

“Nuclear aircraft carrier, I don’t know what you are talking about. There is no such thing, "Rakhmanov said, answering a question about the possibilities and timing of the ship's construction.

Ltd! Feels old school This secret will not reveal.

[drunkram]

I don't think it is possible to cover up the design work on the creation of an aircraft carrier from the general public.

[K-50]

“Nuclear aircraft carrier, I don’t know what you are talking about. There is no such thing, "Rakhmanov said, answering a question about the possibilities and timing of the ship's construction.

Bummer !!
"Kuzya" is not eternal, and if it needs a replacement, then you need to worry about it now, since the construction time for new ships is not fast "to put it mildly".

[SMikhalych]

Quote: K-50

Bummer !!

Well, why is it just a bummer, sir? Why in vain pop into the environment about your plans? You need to calmly go down the mountain and ...
No, tarapis is not nada (c) To confront a fact is another matter.

[lelikas]

Quote: SMikhalych

No, tarapis is not nada (c) To confront a fact is another matter.

So far, we are faced with the fact that we cannot build a normal destroyer, and we have been building a frigate for ten years. Without even having a design for an aircraft carrier, it is premature to talk about its construction (to put it mildly).

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: K-50

and if he needs a replacement

this is the key phrase

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: K-50

"Kuzya" is not eternal, and if he needs a replacement,

Does he need a replacement? As he is? It was a black hole in the budget, which pumped money constantly. And what is the result? As a result, for the first time in 25 years, he went camping for a couple of months. Just got ready. Still not gone anywhere. Does anyone want to recall the previous trip to the Mediterranean Sea?
And the replacement will be much more expensive. Russia is now a market economy with private equity capital. And shareholders, in their final form, are all people, all businessmen. For them, any construction for budget money is "Klondike". And then there will be such happiness.
A. Chubais with his Rusnano life rent relies. Branches of the Yeltsin Center in Russia need to be built. I congratulate you all.
It has long been proposed to upgrade Kuznetsov in the landing ship and send to the Far East. There is a huge coastline, there are tsunamis and hurricanes. There such a landing ship can be useful even in peacetime. To envisage and create landing planes and helicopters (which will be deployed there in the target order, which means the formation of an air wing depending on the task, rather than the permanent basing of only fighter aircraft and anti-submarine helicopters), the possibility of being converted to a hospital, the possibility of delivering humanitarian aid, and the possibility of evacuation from natural disaster areas.
Everything is already, the latent conflict with the United States has come out and will not go anywhere. They have ten full-fledged carrier groupings. Either create ten of these, or spend money on cheaper means of countering these groups.
Wretched looks like a girl in a cheap outfit (which god sent), but with an expensive handbag. However, like a dude on an expensive second-hand foreign car, in which all income goes to spare parts.

[Winnie76]

With an expensive and stunningly ineffective Kuzya-class ship before their eyes, people wish the banquet to continue. Amazing. As if we have nowhere to put corvettes with frigates. And in the army, everyone uses armatures and kurgans ...

[There is an opinion]

Thank God the Mistrals weren't bought. All these aircraft carriers, DVDK, UDC and other expensive barges are in the furnace. The mosquito fleet is our everything! To build ships no larger than a frigate, it is better to rivet more corvettes and RTOs. I think so.

[Vladimir 38]

Considering our territory and defense strategy, there is no urgent need for aircraft carriers. You can get a couple, if you have "extra" money. We need to rivet more calibers, submarines. In my opinion, this will be more effective. We are not going to bomb the Papuans, and in case of serious confusion, this is just a big target.

[Muvka]

I agree with you. We don't need an aircraft carrier. But if you just need to bomb the Papuans, you can buy it from China. Cheaper, it seems to me, will come out.

[lelikas]

Quote: Muvka

I agree with you. We don't need an aircraft carrier. But if you just need to bomb the Papuans, you can buy it from China. Cheaper, it seems to me, will come out.

Yes Yes . It would be better if the rockets that fly so successfully from them have been ordered - no?

[Fei_Wong]

But if you just need to bomb the Papuans, you can buy it from China. Cheaper, it seems to me, will come out.

It's funny, considering that the "non-brothers" at one time sold the "Varyag" (aka "Riga", aka "Liaoning") - one of the Soviet aircraft carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic. And at the price of needles, like scrap.

[atakan]

there is no urgent need for aircraft carriers.

This is so, but not quite. Anti-ship coastal complexes, etc., of course, will take on a significant part of the Navy's responsibilities, but a country like the United States has strengthened its aircraft carriers. One is still needed to poke a stick into the nasty anthills, or to have such an opportunity.
The flight from the deck for pilots in six months - a year is also depreciated, IF THERE IS NO

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vladimir 38

We're not going to bomb the Papuans

And then these Papuans will come (they will be led) to our borders and our submarines will hit their own territory with cruise missiles.

[zoolu300]

Mattress Papuans just need to be brought to their senses from time to time. But this is possible if we have a normal Empire, and not an existing "oligarchy". I think in vain they allowed the transformation of the Varyag into the Liaoning at the Pacific Fleet, it would have looked organic, because we do not need more than two "semi-aircraft carriers" in the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet, because as you rightly said with a serious mix, these are just big goals.

[tomket]

Well, it’s clear where we can compete with the Indians, not to mention the Chinese. And money with MedvedeKudrinoSiluanoNabiulina is not expected at all. Forget the aircraft carrier as a nightmare! We are a land power, we do not need these imperial-colonial instruments of intimidation!

[corporal]

Quote: tomket

And money with Medveda Kudrino Siluano Nabiulina is not expected at all

The price of just one ski jump in Sochi.

[tomket]

If we paraphrase "We will do everything, Comrade Stalin" from the lips of the USSR ministers, and to "We will do everything, Comrade Putin" from the mouths of Russian officials, then we get a joke.

[tomket]

Quote: Vladimir 38

Considering our territory and defense strategy, there is no urgent need for aircraft carriers. You can get a couple, if you have "extra" money. We need to rivet more calibers, submarines. In my opinion, this will be more effective. We are not going to bomb the Papuans, and in case of serious confusion, this is just a big target.

And in Syria, who are you bombing us? Neanderthals?

[arcgrz]

Ishilovites, poor, suffer, right? .. defenseless

[newcomer]

again twenty-five. it's a pity. then they shouted "storm". they try to shove the Indians into the tender, but here on you.

[donavi49]

The topic should not have been titled about the aircraft carrier, but about the destroyer. That almost in 2017 year they were going to lay it in words.

[fif21]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Is Russia planning offensive operations away from its borders ?!

Yes!!!!! As well as peacekeeping, humanitarian, excursion

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: fif21

Yes!!!!!

where?
what kind?
what goals are being pursued?

[Galleon]

"USC: it is not planned to build a nuclear aircraft carrier in the near future"
Thanks for that too. Finish and hand over at least what has already been started and repair what was disassembled in factories.

[rotmistr60]

Why argue. It seems to me that if necessary, they will build it.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Dart2027,

Quote: Dart2027

Do you want to build 1000 military bases around the world?
How tired amateurs talk about "offensive weapons".

once again before stopping the aircraft carrier base or it needs to be clearly defined TASKS it is possible that you need not 1000 but 15000 bases, perhaps and it will be cheaper than 5 AUG, because you need not one aircraft carrier, but several AUG, perhaps 10 AUG, but this can only be said after setting tasks, and build only because the military wanted a "beautiful toy" top of idiocy

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

one more time before

to repeat nonsense you need to study history.
"Even if you need a sword once in a lifetime, you should always wear it."
The entire history of mankind is one continuous fight. This is a fact you cannot argue with. And you need to prepare for the next round of this fight in advance, and not wait until the roasted rooster bites. Do you know what will happen in a year? In two? Ten? How long will it take to build a ship of this class from the beginning of design to the time when the crew really learns to work?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you need to clearly define the TASKS

The task is one - to ensure the interests of their country before other states. Everything else, including defending your territory, is part of this big task.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dart2027

to repeat nonsense you need to study history.
"Even if you need a sword once in a lifetime, you should always wear it."

rare stupidity, I would like to look at the front-line inflating going beyond the front line on an armored personnel carrier, by the way, in some cases it is more profitable to have a bow with poisoned arrows and shoot a swordsman from afar

Quote: Dart2027

The task is one - to ensure the interests of their country before other states.

I understand that you are not a military man and have never been involved in production planning, hence such thoughts, please be so kind as to tell me how AUG will help you (namely AUG and not an aircraft carrier, because by itself, unaccompanied, it is just a floating iron coffin for several thousand people ) non-Asian theater
or why the hell do you need an AUG in the North American theater of operations if your task is not to seize bridgeheads and territories, but to stupidly destroy infrastructure and drive the United States into the Stone Age
an army is a tool and it should be formed EXCLUSIVELY FROM PURPOSES AND TASKS and not vice versa, first we create an army and only after that we think why it is needed, if you don’t understand this, then it’s not clear why you climb to comment on the military forum

Quote: Dart2027

The entire history of mankind is one continuous fight. This is a fact you cannot argue with. And you need to prepare in advance for the next round of this fight

it is preparing for THIS fight, that is, if you know that the crowd will attack you, then it is possible that you will need a strong club, and if one person, then most likely you will manage with fists

Quote: Dart2027

Do you know what will happen in a year? In two? Ten?

Ltd...
Apparently, I'm talking to a pimply youth
boy, in fact, there are structures and departments whose tasks include such planning, do not disgrace yourself and do not make yourself a complete fool

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

rare nonsense, I would like to look at

how the whole army switches from infantry fighting vehicles and tanks to non-bows, because sometimes they are more convenient than armor.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I understand that you are not a military man and have never been involved in production planning

I understand that you do not know anything about production at all. If only because the military does not plan it, the military-industrial complex is not an army, but a supplier for the army and civilians work there. And I work as a design engineer and I can quite imagine the creation of a ship of this class.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

but stupidly destroying infrastructure and driving the United States into the stone age

And this is nothing that we ourselves will be driven into the same century? I wonder where you need to live for the last 60-70 years, so as not to understand that in our time they are fighting not directly, but on the territory of weaker states?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

exactly preparing for THIS fight

So do you know the future or not?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Apparently, I'm talking to a pimply youth
boy, in fact, there are structures and departments whose tasks include such planning, do not disgrace yourself and do not make yourself a complete fool

Apparently I'm in contact with a pimply youth. The boy actually in the world there are a huge number of players of different levels and exactly "to plan"something is extremely difficult, you can only anticipate, with more or less accuracy, and over a relatively short period of time, and this is a completely different matter. For example, in the United States, polite people were not planned in Crimea, but they appeared there. Do not disgrace yourself and make yourself look complete ....

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

an army is a tool and it should be formed EXCLUSIVELY FROM PURPOSES AND TASKS and not vice versa, first we create an army and only after that we think why it is needed, if you don’t understand this, then it’s not clear why you climb to comment on the military forum

The army is a tool and its capabilities determine what goals the state can achieve based on its strength. If you do not understand this, then it is not clear why you climb to comment on the military forum.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dart2027

And I work as a design engineer and I can quite imagine the creation of a ship of this class.

I'm scared for our shipbuilding, you are stupid and mediocre

Quote: Dart2027

The army is a tool and its capabilities determine what goals the state can achieve based on its strength. If you do not understand this, then it is not clear why you climb to comment on the military forum.

be so kind as to voice the proposed theater of operations as well as the goals and objectives that the AUG performs on them

Quote: Dart2027

I understand that you do not know anything about production at all

well, apart from the fact that I had mine, I also planned and prepared projects for customers

Quote: Dart2027

that in our time they are not fighting directly, but on the territory of weaker states

What are you? !!
let's take a closer look at the use of AUG on the territory of other states

Quote: Dart2027

In fact, there is a huge number of players of different levels in the world, and it is extremely difficult to "plan" anything exactly, one can only assume

one smart guy like you also reasoned in December 95 as a result of a war that could have been avoided and a lot of deaths not counting the lost face, apparently you already received education after the collapse of the Union

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I'm scared for our shipbuilding, you are stupid and mediocre

Are you a taxi driver or a hairdresser?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

be so kind as to voice the proposed theater of operations as well as the goals and objectives that the AUG performs on them

The oceans of the world are the main part of the hydrosphere, a continuous, but not continuous water shell of the Earth, surrounding continents and islands, and characterized by a common salt composition. The world's oceans cover almost 70% of the earth's surface.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

well, apart from the fact that I had mine

Shipyard?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

on the use of AUG on the territory of other states

Iraq, Libya.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Dean a smart guy like you reasoned the same way in December 95

Which one? Do you specify or do not know yourself?
And by the way, how about knowing the future?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

apparently you already received education after the collapse of the Union

In fact, I also found the Union, but many things were not told in schools then. But in vain.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

what do you do the project of the ship from the lantern and your desire, or is it still based on the TK

Based on the TK, only the issuance of TK and the production of a product in their terms are difficult to measure, so it is better to have it ready as soon as the opportunity arises

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dart2027

And I work as a design engineer and I can quite imagine the creation of a ship of this class.

I understand correctly that you are making the project of the ship from the lantern and your desire, or is it still based on the technical specification?

[dzerzhinsky]

In today's reality, an aircraft carrier is just a pile of iron of astronomical cost; this is a clear goal.

The cost of the Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is $ 5 billion.
For this amount, you can build at least:
- Project 955 SSBN "Borey" ---- 13 pieces
or
- Project 885M SSGN "Ash" - 6 pieces

[PKK]

Quote: STARPER

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And yet, I think they are planning .... An expensive project, of course, but in the future Russia will need it, definitely!

They plan, but an old American project, an aircraft carrier based on a straw-ice version. An aircraft carrier is made of frozen straw and performs the task of capturing America. Personally, canceling, I advise you to add clay to the project. It is guaranteed not to be sunk.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
be so kind as to voice the proposed theater of operations, as well as the goals and objectives that the AUG performs on them. The World Ocean is the main part of the hydrosphere, a continuous but not continuous water shell of the Earth, surrounding continents and islands, and characterized by a common salt composition. The world's oceans cover almost 70% of the earth's surface.

you can no longer answer with a person who, in principle, does not know anything about the topic, no reason to argue

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

with a person who, in principle, does not know the point of arguing about anything

Did you know what the ocean is? It happens. You would broaden your horizons and engage in self-education. And it looks like you not only "on the topic", but generally do not know much.

[Evil 55]

We already have 9 nuclear aircraft carriers .. True, while they are on lease from the United States, but this is not for long, because soon the regional state-United Union of Texas and California will not need these expensive pieces of iron ..

[23424636]

for translators from Yiddish, a critical moment has come, or have begun secretly and quickly to build, or have almost done

[razved]

Either it gets dark, or ... it's a pity.

[APASUS]

Quote: Inok10

... I wonder what the doubts are? ... surface nuclear ships pr. 1144 in stock, nuclear submarines in stock, nuclear icebreakers in stock ...

There are more problems with a nuclear aircraft carrier than you think.
In addition to the fact that the ship itself will cost a round sum, there are a number of problems that can turn the ship into a heap of metal.
First of all, for optimal control of the aviation complex, an AWACS aircraft with a short takeoff is required, which we do not have. So far, no one has heard of R&D on this topic. An-71 and Yak-44 never went into production.
The aircraft carrier itself, without cover, is simply stupidly an airfield at sea, for a full-fledged AUG, funds of a higher rank are required. And of course the parking of such a huge vessel itself requires a certain coastal structure, starting from the pier and power plants, ending with means of covering air defense. But we do not have such a structure in general, you look where the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov"

[serg2108]

all problems can be solved if there was a will to a result ... the Olympics were organized ... a question for connoisseurs how many full-fledged AUG were thrown in there ......? about the rest, many here have already talked especially about repeating the point I do not see .... well, and even now, apparently, really quietly at a slow pace, our leadership is engaged in the restoration of the industry that has been lost in 25 years ...

[akribos]

Naturally, it is not planned, the Yeltsin Center, because, more importantly, much !!! Respectfully!

[Kudrevkn]

"Behind the forest" You did not see the main thing: neither in the USC (military-industrial complex), nor in the Ministry of Defense they know and do not want to understand HOW WHERE SHOULD the Navy DEVELOP (grow) in the future! The Americans know, the Chinese are generally good fellows (they know very well how and where), but here the Rakhmanovs and the Rogozins first “fart into the water”, and then they “turn on the back”, “they say they don't have enough brains and money”? Is there enough for your loved ones to order yachts at the price of a frigate, but not enough for a preliminary design (!) Of a destroyer? Well, who are the heroes in Russia? No, you, today's nerds, climbed onto the "Olympus" of power! A disgrace, it would be better if he slurped his own - it's not a shame for these poor minds, for the State it is insulting !!!! Sorry, Gentlemen Experts, it hurts!

[iouris]

Isn't this the same Rakhmanov who "trained in the USA" for six months, then headed the "department of the auto industry" for several years and wrote all sorts of nonsense on his Twitter account?