January 12, on Gogol Boulevard, at the Ministry of Defense held a rally

More than 50 people gathered on Gogol Boulevard in Moscow near the Ministry of Defense on Thursday to express a negative attitude towards the department’s plan to close the Gagarin and Zhukovsky military air academy and create a new educational institution in Voronezh on their basis, the correspondent of Nakanune.RU reports. .

According to Vyacheslav Tetekin, a member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, who spoke at the picket, what is happening with these two renowned universities cannot be called a reform.

"Such a" change in the appearance of the academies "is a real extermination. It will cause serious consequences for the combat readiness of all air forces," said Tetekin. “Our grandfathers and fathers were not fools, and therefore they built a network of academies and colleges in different parts of our country. Now the current rulers are trying to concentrate everything in Voronezh,” V. Tetekin said.

"Aviation we simply will not have commanders, there will be no one to manage air operations, "he added." Moscow ", - said the deputy.

"In Voronezh itself, in the territories adjacent to the aerodrome of the future training center, which, by the way. Has not been used for many years, there are dwelling houses. The military have already begun to face the protests of local residents. And what will happen after the night flights begin - people they simply cannot live there, "said Tetekin. He also said that today he would turn to Vladimir Komoyedov, the head of the State Duma’s defense committee, with a request to convey people's concerns to the first state officials.

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[tronin.maxim]

Yeah, min. Defense does not know how to do anything else.

[Dad]

And the Supreme Commander? Nothing to do with?

[Vadivak]

Quote: Dad

And the Supreme Commander? Nothing to do with

From ancient times, it was customary in Russia to believe that the good tsar father did not know anything about the troubles of the people, and bad ministers were to blame for everything. Remember the events of 1905?

[Sokerin]

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/panzir56/post133410728/


What are you doing
Shaking an army boat
Someone rubs his hands
Contemplating the course of "reform".

Now in the contract, then, again, to the call,
Now a sergeant, then again an overdue
Utopian all desires
But nobody wants to serve.

Rocked the service boat
We’ve punched holes in the sides,
Lead friendship with NATO now,
Reducing officers.

20 years old "noodles" that soon,
Something new will come
Air Force fly downhill -
Serdyukov will buy wreaths for them.

In the Air Force and not left,
Those who are trained to fight,
Yes, the country did not try
They are taught in this case.

Her parades and records
From the shit, but take it out - give it,
Is furniture muzzles
They know something, except: - Give!

And for a long time already amusing
Every regiment has turned
A new look is being sewn, caneSnA,
Only in PR knowing a lot.

The officer lives on the nerves
Mat obscenities service:
The ministry is ruled by bitch
Generals serve in hats.

Have you forgotten the forty-first?
Will we drape to the Urals?
Only paper reserves
In those reforms from the satraps.

There is an order four hundred
The power will not save
Not every XNUMXth
Terribly ancient, very rusty.

Junk is statewide,
Serviceability in it - "xy tenths",
Rubbing Hands States:
- Late to drink narzan, guys ...

[Bob]

This is the murder of science and education in general and military science and education in particular. If in 1937 the top command staff was destroyed by repressions, then according to the Jewish methods, they would block financing, restructuring the organizational structure of management, etc. And if tomorrow is a war? .... Then the next 1941 awaits us. The reformers didn’t think about it, or in another way the traitors of their homeland?

[maestro123]

There, besides Taburetkin, there are enough advisers how to cut.

[SAMEDOV SULEYMAN]

The Soviet system of education, it does not matter a civilian university or military academy was the best in the world and remaking it in a different way is to its own detriment!

[tronin.maxim]

I agree with you: to your own detriment and to joy.

[KGB161rus]

Yes, it seems that they are not coming up with anything new in education, but they are just going to dump everything in one heap, it is not known what else will be there in Voronezh, and this applies not only to flight schools, but people can also understand why they should move and live in a rented apartment , today the principle is one, everything is called "one heap". ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Redistribution of education is the only reform of the current government with which I do not agree.

[Uhalus]

Oh, you haven’t seen any medicine yet ...

[Denis]

If they had even heard ...

[alatau_09]

our nearest history has already shown: it is easy to close and collapse ...
or smart, professional cadres are no longer needed by the Russian Defense Ministry?

and this is being done against the background of the "revival of a strong Russia" ...
... the bitter taste of such a "rebirth" ...

"Cadres decide everything" - used to say the Generalissimo ...

the training system in the sun was written in blood and experience ...

[KGB161rus]

"Our grandfathers and fathers were not fools

Is true. .

[Alex63]

Serdyukov just right himself to order enhanced security. Soon, probably, they will start to beat his face. I would love to drop by him, and many more from the government.

[Bob]

One creature - the main red-haired nanotechnologist of the country - wanted to heap. As a result, real men suffered (a dark matter sewn with crooked needles). I would call them heroes, or Decembrists (well, not terrorists). So after all, this traitor is in the same place, in the same position - "elite" in one word, and so with (x) a vatizer, an energetic and a nanotechnologist in one person.

[Alex63]

It is incomprehensible that the whole country sees that Chubais is just a fraudster, clinging to folk money.His Rosnano is just a huge Roslapsha that he hung on the ears of Medvedev and Putin, and they like to walk with such a garland.All Chubais nanoparticles have long been sold in Chinese markets. In addition, Mr. Mikhail Lerner, also a major fraudster, goes to Chubais’s friends and comrades, sucking public budget money through the Chubais Rusnano. Lerner owes so much to his creditors that they can’t send a hitman to him now, and they are afraid that Lerner will be hit by a brick or an icicle, or what other accident will happen. What is the demand from a dead man?

[nycsson]

Totally agree!

[alps]

Friends, you are not confusing anything; it is a question of replacing the old with a new one, and not of destruction as such. It is clear that these people do not want to leave Moscow, so now, do nothing because of them?

[alatau_09]

don't confuse friend alps,
"... the department's plan to close the air force academies named after Gagarin and Zhukovsky, and create on their basis a new educational institution in Voronezh" ...
here it’s not just moving academies (which, in principle, is not bad for Moscow and Voronezh), but merging with a hidden reduction in staff and number of students ... although the programs for retraining military personnel are different ...

[Uhalus]

And besides, one move is equal to three fires ... Not soon they will begin to work normally after such a move. It's not in Moscow, but in the established work.

[Pharao7766]

It feels like ideas for "military" reform in Russia are coming up with the US State Department. And the furniture maker is happy to bring them to life ...

[Sokol peruna]

Grandfathers well done. Such a position in life is worthy only of respect. Let this be the last battle, and without hope of victory, but accepted with honor.

[Uhalus]

It’s only a pity that there are so few of them ... More people came to all kinds of liberals on Bolotnaya

[alps]

Little known to the general public and also to aviation specialists, he was not only an outstanding designer and scientist, but also a secret inspirer of the Soviet space program. Sergei Pavlovich Korolev called Bartini his teacher.

Read what RL said about this. Bartini and you’ll understand. Although in crazia I already wrote everything in my first comment.

In 1968, the team R. L. Bartini from Moscow moved to the plant them. G. Dimitrova at the Design Bureau G. M. Beriev (Taganrog), specializing in seaplanes.

Quote: KGB161rus

KGB161rus Today, 14:21 2 
"Our grandfathers and fathers were not fools

Is true. .

Our grandfathers and fathers gathered and silently moved to where the factory was, and not where Moscow was !!!

[alps]

This was all done and built, for the USSR Armed Forces and not only. Now the need for such a scale is not needed. And yet, I have not been to these academies, as well as to the one in Voronezh, but I am sure that in Voronezh the entire materiel will be much newer and better.

[alatau_09]

God grant that we make mistakes in this matter, and become better and better ...
at the top, I have not yet touched on the value of land under these academies .... this is a completely different topic ...

[Edward]

who cares when and for whom it was built! strange logic) .. well, let's give the Bolshoi Theater a rip-off across the country! And we will make artists aware that they do not want to move to other theaters.
And the scale is no less now, and taking into account the fact that today Russia is almost alone - even more so.
Build in Voronezh, untwist the point to the desired level, and only then close something that is not needed. So much more reasonable.

[alps]

Well, imagine that in your city, town, village, they demolished the good old school, in which moms, dads, you yourself, your children and such cool teachers are taught like that. And now it’s being demolished in order to build a new one ... Well, well, say that it’s bad, that you need to keep traditions ...

[Pharao7766]

... yeah. Only a new, beautiful one (the boss told) is being built 50 kilometers away. And there are no teachers in it ... they all remained in the old village.
PS From Kaliningrad, the Military Engineering Higher School was also transferred to Nizhny Novgorod - where it successfully and expired. (I think Nizhny Novgorod will confirm).

[viktor_ui]

alps - you and yours like build something first, take a look - suddenly ugliness on the exhaust, but when you get hurt, then break the worst of the rest ...

[Edward]

school in the village and the SCHOOL of the Air Force Academy named after Gagarin and Zhukovsky - do not confuse the scale! ..

[Nechai]

Quote: Bob

And if tomorrow is war?

The tandem declared a long time ago that they DO NOT NEED anything, except as in laconic conflicts, to fight and dash, if necessary, to drive! They are not going to take part in global conflicts. Unlike our potential "friends", those in the West and those in the East. Well, what can be the conclusion from this? Yes, only one and only one - all possible conditions are being systematically prepared for the acceptance of the Russian elite at the "alternate airfield" at the moment of "H", as they call themselves names. With "this country" they DO NOT connect their own and their children's future!

[Volkhov]

The expansion of Moscow is carried out along the tunnel to the BTA aerodrome in the Kaluga Region. Relocation of the top is scheduled for the summer. Everything is in the press.

[alps]

Quote: Pharao7766

.aga. Only a new, beautiful one (the boss told) is being built 50 kilometers

so it’s 50 km away from you, for it’s 50 km closer to those who used to get to your school))) a joke.

[Svist]

Before you crush the old, you need to create a new one. And if the new ones justify themselves, switch to it. And yet - there are traditions, this is also not an empty phrase. Amer is not going to close his oldest West Point Academy, the Academy was founded in 1802. But we are ahead of the rest, how much has already closed everything! And hardly anyone will be responsible for undermining the country's defenses.

[fellow misha]

This story with the transfer of the academy began back in 2006, now it is already a fait accompli, in Voronezh they are almost finished creating a large center of the Russian Air Force, is this a different question whether this is right or not.


.... such a development of events, the participants in the conference dedicated to the 160th anniversary of the birth of N.E. Zhukovsky, back in April 2007, turned to the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin with a request to preserve VVIA named after prof. N.E. Zhukovsky as a national treasure of Russia. In response to this appeal, the Deputy Minister of Defense, Army General N. Pankov, in a letter No. 173/5/1/1323 dated August 15, 2008, writes: “The task of optimizing the network of military educational institutions as one of the most important areas of military education reform was set by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Its need is due to the fact that in recent years there has been a significant reduction in the Armed Forces, while the network of military schools has not undergone a corresponding reorganization. The purpose of optimization: the enlargement of military schools with potential for expansion, the concentration of human, financial and material resources in these universities, reducing the cost of military education by reducing managerial and support staff, getting rid of excess funds. "

[viktor_ui]

Comrade Misha, when he earns in full force, we will have our own piece flyers.

[fellow misha]

On this occasion, on the forums, I read the opinions of the flyers themselves, they calmly relate to this some, vice versa, any trash will not go there because it will no longer be MASCOW.

[bubla5]

We probably don’t need space and aviation, we will all be lawyers, sellers, brokers and movers, but everyone will have a higher unnecessary education

[Torus]

Breaking does not build.
There is a university, it works, why bother him ?? No, well, how much valuable land does he occupy in Moscow! Mess!
Taburetkin’s idea is understandable - they need to be sent to hell away, and the golden land should be given for development. For regular offices ...
Not so, naturally!

[Owl]

The state should fulfill its functions in the following areas:
- medicine and healthcare;
- education;
- defense;
- compliance with laws;
- the science;
- industry.
Now the "country" has destroyed (for ordinary citizens) education, medicine, and industry. For the sake of overseas masters and oligarchs, they destroy science, legality and almost completely finished off the defense.

[sashalenovo]

Hard life awaits the future generation and they will not thank us.

[sinandju]

And just don’t say now that Putin has nothing to do with it! Either, as he says, he is a real patriot, but then he is just a woodpecker who doesn’t understand a damn thing in the economy, or he himself is a mishandled Cossack of the West, only skillfully disguised.

Taburetkin will not do anything alone

[sashalenovo]

I fully support you

[Grenader]

100% truth. The gross domestic product keeps aside from this business, makes itself a patriot, but ministers and deputies are those villains and bribe takers. Yes Taburetkin cannot sneeze without his command.

[nycsson]

Yes, it is so !!! Only the majority of our people do not understand it !!! Allen Dulles’s plan has been successfully implemented !!! It's a shame to tears !!! He does not understand the 60-70-80's generation, but what about ours take youth ?! Everyone lives on his own, in his own closed world! Everyone doesn’t give a damn about the country and his homeland!

[zzzel]

or maybe according to the same reform, all the defense ministry should be sent to Sakhalin, so that they improve the country's defense there

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Gentlemen! Does anyone even know what exactly is meant ....- "... the department's plan to close the air force academies named after Gagarin and Zhukovsky, and create a new educational institution in Voronezh on their basis ....- ??? for the institution, in general, the goal, the meaning of the reform of the Higher Educational Institutions of the RA and the Navy ???

[Grenader]

Closing the world's best air force academy is not just gouging, but a crime. For this you need to shoot on the spot. The government and GDP do not want to have a strong army and protect us.

[Edward]

with our perestroika everything is thrown from trembling innovations - it is clear that it is better to first raise Voronezh to the necessary level, and only then, if necessary, it is possible to reform VVAGiZh to the necessary minimum.
if it’s a fight against corruption (as someone said, the left will not climb, because it will not be MASKWA) - well, this is nonsense ..
I think it’s simpler here - some brothers took care of their dainty lived. square or something like that.

[morpex]

I am from Ukraine. Recently on this site. I read publications, articles, komenty. Quietly I envy the good. We have been ruined. You have so much lately
is done for the army. And here like a butt on the head. Close such forges of personnel! Enlighten, what is this? Otherwise, what can you call sabotage? Is this an isolated case? Or a tendency? We, too, began with the closure and the so-called "merger" of military universities. As a result, a complete jo ...

[nycsson]

Your Yanukovych is not different from ours, and they have one goal, this is the destruction of Slavic peoples! We need to unite and the sooner the better !!!

[sprut]

I was recently at the Air Force Center. Of course, I’m upset by the loss of the Zhukovsky Academy, but the situation in Voronezh surprised me for the better. A very, very strong base is being created there ... True, there is only one nuclear warhead - and there is nothing ...

[tank64rus]

Having started a reform of military universities, the "reformers" always brought them supposedly an excessive number and a small number of students. But they never said what caused this. Explanation of this is that during the Soviet era it was believed that the first blow would be inflicted on the United States, therefore, from 30 to 40% of the universities will be destroyed , the rest were supposed to make up for the losses by mobilization deployment. The academies were in Moscow because this is the only city protected by missile defense. Having destroyed military science, some get the opportunity to sell property and land, others buy weapons and military equipment abroad having solid kickbacks justifying the lack of new developments, etc. Scientific schools are created for decades, and they can be destroyed instantly. The result will appear very soon.

[APASUS]

And in my opinion everything is quite logical! Remember the pre-war years from the age of 37, what sort of cleansing of the armed forces took place and what did we get to the beginning of the Great Patriotic War? We are systematically finishing the Air Force. Letchikov, we graduate 30 people a year and finish off the Academy and only altruists will fly on airplanes !!!

[Victor]

I'd love to hear the opinion of one of the real flyers. Not those who have been in Moscow for two or three decades now, pretending to be a pilot, but those who every day at the helm and pen rise into the sky and teach people how to practice.

[nycsson]

Russia will soon be grabbing grief! At the head of the country are some ki that our Russian people sold with patrons! I’m still surprised that there are people who support the current government! Navalny correctly said about them at the rally ...

[nycsson]

So in our Air Force there are generally rumors that there will be no such kind of troops soon, but the aerospace defense troops will remain by the merger of the Air Force, Air Defense and East Kazakhstan region !!! They left 20 airfields throughout the country !!!

[sprut]

I myself studied in Zhukovka. 2006 edition. And I am really offended by what is happening with the Academy. But I want to believe in the best ...

[suharev-52]

It is not clear from the article. Closing dates, when will they postpone and is there already a prepared base in Voronezh? Please pay attention to the date of the decision on the reorganization. 2007, that is, when the commander-in-chief was the state. Putin. It follows from this that the decision was made by him, and "Taburetkin" only announced and accepted for execution. I ask current pilots and those who have information on Voronezh to express their opinion.

[755962]

Yes, what is this being done? Well this is sabotage of pure water! And this is EVERYTHING before ... As before the war! Repressions in the Red Army of 1937-1938 - large-scale political repressions against the middle and higher ranks of the Red Army in 1937-1938 and being part of the Stalinist repression. The repressions began in the second half of 1936, but acquired the most widespread scope after the arrest and conviction of M.N. Tukhachevsky and 7 other high-ranking military men in May-June 1937 and were part of larger-scale repressions, the so-called Big Terror. Sorry, but there’s nothing more to compare!

[fellow misha]

Secretary of State - Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation

Army General Pankov N.A.



Correspondent address: 141170, state Monino, Schelkovo district, Moscow region, st. Falaleeva, house 1, apt. 49,

Naydenov Ivan Nikolaevich - head of the working group of the scientific council for processing circulation

Dear Nikolay Alexandrovich!

As you know, in accordance with the order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation No. 1136 dated July 12, 2011, the training of all specialists from the VVVS VVC military center (Moscow and Monino, Moscow Region) was transferred to Voronezh Aviation Engineering University, As a result, the scientific and pedagogical potential and other employees of the Academy from among the military and civilian personnel were unclaimed: 1601 people until October 19 this year. subject to dismissal. This has seriously aggravated social tension in the Monino town and the direct intervention of officials of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is required in solving the problems that have arisen.

The fact that in this order the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation exceeded his authority was confirmed by order of September 27.09.2011, 1639 No. XNUMX-r from the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation. The decree indicates that the VVC Air Force Research Center has retained its basing place, its main objectives and maximum staffing levels.

We also know: the President of Russia agreed with the proposal of the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation that the final decision on the prospective composition of the network of military educational institutions of the Russian Ministry of Defense (including regarding our academies), "is proposed to be taken into account the proposals of the Government of the Russian Federation on further improving the system military education, which, in accordance with the decision of the operational meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation of June 23, 2011 on the issue "On the progress of the reform military education system "will be presented before November 1, 2011."

We, members of the scientific council of the Military Training and Scientific Center of the Air Force “Air Force Academy named after Professor N.E. Zhukovsky and
Yu.A. Gagarina ”, we appeal to you with a request for an accelerated resolution of the current situation. In our opinion, it is advisable to use the scientific and pedagogical potential and educational funds of the Air Force Research Center of the Air Force "VVA" in the structure of the scientific complex of the Air Force with its deployment in the town of Monino, Moscow Region.

We ask for your help.

Appendix: signatures of members of the scientific council, 2 p.

The head of the working group of the scientific council of the Air Force Research Center of the Air Force "VVA" on the processing of circulation I.N. Naidenov

[fellow misha]

from 27.08.2010

We bring to your attention fragments of an interview with Air Force Commander-in-Chief Colonel General A.N. Zelin with correspondent of the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper Andrei Gavrilenko, which took place in early August as part of the next issue of the Military Council program on Zvezda TV channel.
- What is the situation with military schools now? After all, a pilot needs training, which must constantly be improved.
- We have built a system for training military personnel of the Soviet Union ... But we are studying world experience. If, for example, we take the USA, Great Britain, and France, then they do not have numerous military educational institutions. Each type has its own educational institutions, but all specialists are trained there. Here, behind this interweaving of all specialists in one military educational institution, I believe, is the future.

By 2012, we will move to a single military training scientific center for the Air Force. It will be created in Voronezh on the basis of the military university, which now exists. It will include branches that will train specialist pilots and, say, air defense specialists. We’ll be building nearby, and, in fact, the Minister of Defense has already given the go-ahead for this, the main center for combat use and retraining of flight personnel and military tests — this is on the basis of the center in Lipetsk. That is, we are going to enlarge, to unite the entire specialty that exists in the Air Force.
But we are training not only specialists for the Air Force - but also for all types and branches of the Armed Forces of Russia, for the power structures of the Russian Federation. I mean the flight and engineering personnel that are directly available in the aviation of the Ministry of Emergencies, in the aviation of the FSB and in the aviation of the Internal Troops.
- That is, there should be a single form of training, a single level, a common understanding and a vision of the task?
- It still exists. We are all concentrating schools in one place. This military training research center will simultaneously train up to 10 thousands of people on a powerful, state-of-the-art educational material base. In Voronezh, we are planning to create an aviation base for the 1 class, and the Lipetsk center is in 90 kilometers. That is, simultaneously with the study of theoretical issues, there will also be the necessary military training.
...
- How much time and money is needed today to train a pilot?
- A 1st-class pilot, for example front-line aviation, is prepared in general in 7-8 years, the cost of training is approximately $ 3,4 million, and a sniper pilot is 10-12 years old with a cost of $ 7,82 million. In turn, training a 1st-class pilot on multi-purpose aircraft can take up to 8-10 years and cost up to 5,5-6,0 million dollars, sniper pilot -15-17 years with costs 12-14 million dollars. Moreover, the average annual flying time of pilots of the 1st class should be 100-120 hours.
- It turns out that military pilots are worth their weight in gold! Is it possible to somehow reduce these costs without reducing the combat potential of the air force?
- The problem is that by 2025 the volume of tasks assigned to the Air Force aviation, as you can expect, will not decrease, but will increase by 1,3-1,5 times, which will require an increase in the composition of the aviation group operating in the strategic direction. However, due to the increase in the cost of creating and operating the air complexes themselves, as well as the cost of developing them with flight crews, it is possible that, with the projected level of funding, the number of air force aviation personnel may decrease significantly by 2025.
In this case, by 2025 the manned air force aviation will not be able to solve the required amount of tasks in a local war, as required by the program documents on the national security of the Russian Federation.
One of the ways to solve this problem may be the widespread use of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for various purposes.
- How are things with the pilots of our pilots now?
- We began to fly more. Flight crew training is improving markedly.
- And if you compare: how many hours did you fly in a year and how much is a fighter flying now?
- Year by year, on average, if distributed when I was a pilot, then the raid was a little more than 100 hours, well, somewhere 120 hours. And when he was already an instructor, commander, there, naturally, the raid was under 200, and sometimes during 200 hours. He was so because he had to train subordinate flight crews.
- And now how many pilots fly?
- Now, on average, a raid by front-line aviation has reached 80 hours. In army aviation, he has long been in 100 hours.
- Such indicators are close to optimal?
- You see, there are two safety boundaries. When a little pilot flies, it is very dangerous. But even when it flies a lot, it is also dangerous.
- relaxing?
- Not that it relaxes, just excessive permissiveness may arise. There is a flying rate established by medicine - this, depending on the type of aviation, is about 100-150 hours. For military transport aviation, it takes 200-250 hours. This is a normal raid, which allows a professional to maintain their level and perform the tasks that are assigned to it.
- And how intensively is the re-equipment of the Air Force with equipment now?
- According to the state arms plan, which has already been practically completed, over the next 10 years we will re-equip front-line and army aviation by 100% and upgrade military transport aircraft to 70%. Modernization, renewal awaits and strategic aviation. This is an objective reality. No matter how we want, any aircraft has a certain life cycle. There are certain boundaries that ensure the safe use or application of any aircraft.
The leadership of the Ministry of Defense decided that the Air Force, like air defense, was a priority. And the issues of re-equipment of the Air Force to new types of weapons will be implemented in the new state program.
/ Andrey Gavrilenko topwar.ru /

[TRex]

Why does this bl ... count everything in dollars? Objective reality?

[taseka]

ASS - the desired look of a promising army!
This has already been tested by the "reformers" at one of the oldest academies in Russia - military engineering !!! First, an institute as part of the Frunze Academy, now a department! As a result, the educational and material base, the teaching staff (which has been grown for many decades) was destroyed

[TRex]

Not for decades, but for centuries. They have already graduated from the last school (Tyumen), they are being moved to some kind of training center for newly-minted sergeants. As for the Air Force, this is generally a disaster. We noticed that Zelin considers all the costs of training pilots and other specialists in dollars. Apparently used to this currency, there is no alternative. In my life I have baptized the country from Vladik to the South-Eastern Caucasus, from Crimea to the Far North, and I remember that somewhere someone said: "REMEMBER THE WAR", but now, apparently, this is irrelevant - there are friends all around ... friendship .. . gum...