The Almaty target acquisition complex turns into a gamers dream

Developers of the latest Russian tank T-14 Armata announces equipping the combat vehicle with a complex of operational capture and target detection with its subsequent video tracking. Information that the system of work with the target on the T-14 will largely resemble a computer game is confirmed by Igor Ryabov, director of the Design Bureau of the Gorky Communication Equipment Plant named after A.S. Popov.

Information Agency TASS cites the words of Igor Ryabov, the team of which the company heads and is engaged in the creation of the aforementioned target acquisition and detection complex:

"Armata" will be the first Russian armored vehicles, which will be installed complex operational capture and target detection with video mode based on optical fiber, which allows the commander to quickly transmit the gunner is not just the coordinates of the target, but also her video. Formally, the control of the battle turns into a computer toy.

Igor Ryabov says that the new complex, which will be equipped with "Armata", will minimize the range of actions for the purpose of the commander and gunner of the tank.

From the statement:

The commander simply moves the cursor to the target, and presses the button to capture it. Then he sends the exact coordinates of the target and a picture from the battlefield to the gunner, he can even indicate, for example, that this tank is hit by the first, the BMP by the second, etc., and the gunner can only press a button.

According to Ryabov, the newest complex allows for tracking and tracking the target, as well as promptly transmitting information about it in any weather and landscape conditions in which the armored vehicle itself can operate.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

"Formally, control of the battle turns into a computer toy."

Only "save" will not work.

[Alex_Rarog]

I think the WoT generation will be happy)))

[just exp]

on the other hand, they can actually be cooked in computer simulations.

[cniza]

This is so, only the realities will be very different from the simulators.

[just exp]

Yes, on the simulators shake will be stronger.
though the BOPS hit on the tank I don’t think the simulator will pull.

[Ronino]

Flyers are driven in simulators and nothing.

[gladcu2]

just exp

Of course, computer games can prepare for reality. Some.

If we talk about WOT or WT, then these games earn on shareware games. Therefore, all imbs are nerfed for the sake of balance. There, only the graphics speak of history. And history is a look into the future through the prism of the past.

But there are other games. Such as Battlefield, Arma3, Project Reality. Those earn like thrillers. Games where the fate of the player is in his hands, knows how to survive in weapons and his tactical use. Yes there. They are preparing a soldier.

[Kasym]

The trick is that in the West, computer "shooters" are played; and in Russia, these computer bells and whistles in real life. They kind of came up with these toys, but they are being implemented by the harsh Ural men. And who said that Russia is "backward" and cannot create anything new - let them now "swallow dust" in pursuit of the best tank ?!

[Nitarius]

and imagine .. that this is potentially being prepared by the guys in Unmanned tanks to fight .. How do you like this idea?

[Alex_Rarog]

So the armature so in the future they want to make unmanned)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Nitarius

and imagine .. that this is potentially being prepared by the guys in Unmanned tanks to fight .. How do you like this idea?

Uh-huh ... and one day it turns out that they are not fighting in virtual, but in real life. Ender's Game will become documentary.

[Ronino]

Then you need to collapse the foreign game server.
For do not teach FIG enemies!

[bouncyhunter]

Only "save" will not work.

And there is only one "life". And ArtMoney or OMatic won't help ... Sadness ...

[okko077]

Will not be. On the battlefield there is such an Apache helicopter and there are tactical enemy UAVs. They can use information from other detection systems and exchange it ... Here is the dream of gamers .... We do not have such systems, Armata sees only at the expense of his systems and can not even use information from UAVs. This cool tank has no chance in a modern war against amers. It is not included in our information system because we do not have it. There are separate elements of such a system, but they do not interact with each other, do not exchange information. There are no hardware capabilities, there is no single base, there is not even a concept ..... Instead of a dream, a complete fiasco of limited opportunities ..... You will be wet, and you won’t even see who .... Naive dreamers, Rejoice at the fairy tale and dream. ... And they have already made and use all your dreams against us .....

[Lopatov]

Quote: okko077

and the battlefield is such an Apache helicopter and there are tactical enemy UAVs. They can use information from other detection systems and share it ... Here is the dream of gamers ....

Unrealizable. Until now, this remains the Wishlist of the American military.
But in fact, you have to turn on the back. As with the same "Apaches" happened

[okko077]

Wishlist? Watch the movie "The All-Seeing Eye" from the technical side. Even that is enough for your level ...

[Muvka]

And who will let these Apaches and drones fly over the tank? We have many types of air defense that will not leave a chance to your two components.
And you can find out from what sources you took information about the capabilities of the T-14? Share the link? You are so sure that the tank can’t do anything.

[okko077]

Why should they hang? The new JAGM missile on APACH has a range of up to 16 km ...... Read about the state of development of information systems in our army and everything will become clear to you .... The tank knows a lot and this is the best tank, but it is blind And cannot use the information even from UAVs, in addition, in our army there are no Serial UAVs issuing target coordinates, they are only being developed and at the same time issues of unification are not even considered. Alas, unfortunately .....

[Krasniy_lis]

Quote: okko077

The new JAGM missile on APACH has a range of up to 16 km.

and? Or will the Apache hang up and hit with missiles with impunity, in your opinion?

Quote: okko077

in the army there are no Serial UAVs giving the coordinates of the target

I mean no? And what then did we use. I do not know how in Syria, but in the DPR, I know for sure what and how much was used.

[gladcu2]

okko007

Your nickname reminds me of Ukrainian James Bond.

The T-14 concept involves involvement in a combat control system. This is a semi-automatic decision to complete the task due to the processing of information from various detection tools. A semi-automatic solution is when the electronics received the information, processed it and issued several plans for the implementation of the task. But the crew, who with their lives is responsible for the task, makes the final decision. Tank commander in particular.

What type, when you go in a traffic jam and decide for yourself which way to choose, according to the electronic map.

It is clear that if the systems detect Appach, then the command of the battle will change the tasks according to the new situation.

[St Petrov]

Do you really think that in the conflict with the Russian Federation the United States will have a grouping of satellites safe and sound?

Everything through a satellite - and to every American satellite - its Russian bucket with bolts hangs in orbit



dreamers eponam, network-centric war yeah. When you write with such enthusiasm about the Americans - well, you really would be shy.

In the event of serious kneading, all satellite navigation will go to hell - along with all the drones and other stuffing, the Americans will fight with the M-16, and we with the AK-74, and they will have a lot of extra space in the tanks - the navigation unit can be thrown out

This I have not written about nuclear weapons, with all the consequences

[okko077]

What kind of batch is in Syria? Where did that fly? Instead of an information system, there are spotters, instead of target designation with coordinates in real time, the cinema with the UAVs in the record, and the bearded one left for a long time ...... And I’m writing not with enthusiasm, but with bitterness. And we have been working in this direction for many years to come. ... And the faster our geniuses, such as Borisov, they will understand it will be better ...

[gladcu2]

okko07

You correctly describe tasks for developers. Well, not only one you understand what is needed to solve the problem.
Well, for now, they come from tactical capabilities. In the presence of what the military-industrial complex has equipped. (Choose between homeland, state, country, people). I decided that it is right to say MIC.

[okko077]

We have already made such systems. Read on the Internet about ESU TK, it's a shame ..... This story is not over yet ..... Read about the Andromed-D ACCS. How primitive are their capabilities ...... And my nickname is already the 4th ...... 3 banned forever ....

[Homo]

Quote: okko077

And they have already made and use all your dreams against us .....

I've already heard something like that somewhere. Remembered! "There are no cats in America and cheese is free"! Do you know how old this expression is and with what subtext it is said? And it is still relevant.

[Krasniy_lis]

Quote: okko077

We do not have such systems

Ka 52.

Quote: okko077

Armata sees only through its systems

who told you that?

Quote: okko077

information system, because we do not have it. There are separate elements of such a system, but they do not interact with each other, do not exchange information

Do you have outdated information or do you think the warrior is so talk?

Quote: okko077

And they have already done and use against us

Done? When? Use? Yes, they do not even use their vaunted 22 and 35

[okko077]

Sorry, you have a young soldier level and performance too. If it's not a secret, how old are you and what education?

[Diana Ilyina]

Sorry, you have a young soldier level and performance too. If it's not a secret, how old are you and what education?

Well, judging by your comments, did you finish West Point ?! What kind of training manuals are you broadcasting from?

[okko077]

I was taught in CA, KVVAIU 1982 edition, it is better than what you mention ... In discussions I use only open information .... Learn to use the Internet correctly ...

[Krasniy_lis]

a lot, higher. From a military family. Served. In the DPR, Wh, where actually I am. How do you understand my level? It’s not by chance that I wrote about drones. I know exactly what was used and where, because I have to do with it.

[11 black]

Quote: okko077

Armata sees only due to its systems and cannot even use information from UAVs

In modern combat, where both sides make maximum use of electronic warfare probably everyone and everyone will look only at the expense of their systems... and by the way - where did the information about Armata come from?

Quote: okko077

This cool tank has no chance in a modern war against amers. It is not included in our information system because we do not have it.

And what is "INFORMATION SYSTEM" in your understanding? The Americans have won out - in conditions of electronic warfare it does not work and kills civilians ... recently (a few hours ago) in Pakistan, 10 or 20 civilians were again killed by UAVs - and this without any electronic warfare.

Quote: okko077

Instead of a dream, a complete fiasco of limited opportunities ..... You will be drenched, and you won’t even see who .... Naive dreamers, Rejoice at the fairy tale and dream .... And they have already made and use all your dreams against us .. ...

Quote: okko077

okko077 Today, 11: 35 ↑ New
Why should they hang? The new JAGM missile on APACH has a range of up to 16 km ...... Read about the state of development of information systems in our army and everything will become clear to you ....

Everything is clear - just do you know what the GOS ATGM (what a jerk is) and how easy it is to blind it? Here is a video of the operation of the laser system for suppressing infrared seeker - do not overestimate the rocket.

Yes and then - Armor of Almaty is almost invulnerable to a cumulative stream (for all cumulative ammunition) due to the use of the magneto-striction effect in it, destroying the cumulative stream in contact with the armor (this is a new word in the reservation of a combat vehicle - when struck against such armor, a strong magnetic field is formed at the site of the impact, breaking the cumulative jet).

[Pathos]

Apaches will be spotted 380 km to t-14 and knocked down immediately, or do you think in the army and scientific institutes slingshots are developing, however

[iskander491]

Apache with a drone do not have time to fly so that they are not intercepted. In the event of failure of their electronics, they will not know what to do, and who has more plus.

[okko077]

The whole company, read if overpower.
Link: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/321/perspektivy-
create-globalnoy-informationnoy-seti-mo-ssha

[Krasniy_lis]

Prospects, Carl. And you wrote that everything has already been created and works against us.

[Shadow of darkness]

Well then they smear constantly, then they will bomb the excavator, then the hospital? And this is in the absence of active opposition. Learn to separate advertising from reality and not only ours, they also have enough problems.

[okko077]

You still say that they are fighting in Syria? You need to think .......

[Shadow of darkness]

Who are you talking about? About the states? Do you really think that only Russia is fighting in the Middle East, and the whole Western coalition is carrying Coca-Cola to the natives ?!

[Andrey NM]

And there is no "GAME OVER" button either ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey NM

And there is no "GAME OVER" button either

There are, only others include it.

[Monos]

the gunner can only press the button.

Why is he needed then? It would be more logical to remove the extra "player".

[ksa4004]

it’s logical to remove the players in the tank from the tank because there’s 0 sense from them :) in the best case, leave a mechanical technician :) The machine itself will be quicker to detect targets. Of course, there will be no intuition, but a control center with commanders will be enough to build a line of behavior for the tanks. The effectiveness is probably a little lower, but the crew is always intact :)

[Shadow of darkness]

Yeah! Especially if the computer glitches and counts its own for the enemy’s goals, and automatically opens fire at the nearest (more dangerous from the point of view of security). Remote control can also lead to interception or loss of control. Therefore, up to now there are no autonomous systems capable of independent selection of goals and their destruction!

[ssergn]

Ahhh, funny.
Previously turning a few keys. Did you mean that?

[PKK]

Yeah, you’ll have a picture of the battle, like a computer toy. When you fly in from all sides and do not hide anywhere, you don’t go for a smoke and drink some coffee.

[just exp]

the pilot does not immediately fly on the Su-35, it is first trained on the UBS, and before the UBS, there are no screw Yak-52s at all, and before that they’re actually chasing aircraft with mock-ups of the field, they are learning how to use them.
so with such advanced electronics, after the simulator they will give a much better result than the tankers on the previous generation of the LMS.

[aba]

Computer games have the peculiarity of sometimes freezing ... I hope that this fact is also taken into account by the developers.

[MarioG]

By the rules of a good tone, everything is written in C, and again, according to statistics, in the best case, 5000 lines of code can contain up to 3 errors. But Armata most likely runs on Linux.

[just exp]

there is no OS at all, there are iron modules that integrate into one network. and download speed of about a second.

[bk316]

Quote: MarioG

. But

What does your "BUT" mean?
Do you contrast C and Linux?

[mamont5]

Quote: Vladimirets

"Formally, control of the battle turns into a computer toy."

Only "save" will not work.

Well, the enemy will not "survive" either.

[PKK]

There are no historical articles today, there is no way to clear up. ABOUT QUOTE they returned that something in VO probably died, or they were frightened by a run over for not lighting 105 lemons on patriots.

[Cat]

So let him find the target and presses the fire, informing the gunner about the fact of the shot with further instructions, otherwise it would be a waste of time to transmit information to the gunner just press one button? In Western armored vehicles such systems have long been used. Who knows?

[dmi.pris1]

These are the gamers and the Motherland to serve in the army .. Yes, even on tanks change the truck ..

[Sarmat149]

Yes, and load ammunition, put batteries, etc. )))

[Viktor fm]

The devil is in the details as always. On a computer, the goal will be the main one, in fact, not being such.

[fa2998]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

I think the WoT generation will be happy)))

And also send computer "champions" to the tank troops!

[Makk]

And also send computer "champions" to the tank troops!

First of all, in the tank troops, you need to send the developers of these games.

[kig]

And how will all this ingenious filling behave after a shell hits a building or tower? Let him not even break through the armor and ricochet. Interestingly, this situation was experienced in real life?

[Rriv]

As well as from undermining HE shells, bullets entering sensors, etc.

[Krasniy_lis]

but for this, not apple phones are used, but what the close-minded creatures laugh from "oh look, it weighs 20 kg"

[Genry]

And why the heck, then, you need a gunner ???
Or the commander cannot press the "shot" button?

[Pathos]

the commander can press a button. but it is not on in tanks with t 34-85 introduced the concept of hunter-shooter. The commander observes the battlefield and determines priority targets for defeat. The gunner’s gunner calculates the target’s parameters (range, speed, etc., etc., etc.) and shoots

[BOB044]

[quoteThe Armata target detection complex turns into a gamer's dream] [/ quote] The Abrams crew began to urinate under themselves.

[Alexez]

Popov’s factory - well, well ... There’s nothing left from the factory there, the whole area is leased out or half has already been sold. I sometimes visit him on duty - the impression is depressing. So there Ryabov declares - it’s written with a pitchfork on the water.

[Banishing liberoids]

Here is such bragging anger, first do !!! And then, and how now does T14 detect and track targets? Why didn’t they bother to create such a complex earlier?

[ltx777]

Now I understand why everyone was accustomed to WoT, so that in wartime everyone could easily become tankers))))

[Mountain shooter]

The next step will be the exclusion of the gunner from the team. The commander found the goals, marked, even the sequence indicated. What will stop him from shooting at her?

[I read the news]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The commander found goals, marked, even the sequence indicated

Together with the gunner it’s more interesting to do this.

[Genry]

Quote: I readNews

Together with the gunner it’s more interesting to do this.

You can also wash the "harvest" with a driver.

[triglav]

Class! One word - GOOD FELLOWS!

[RECRUIT]

Provided that the armature is going to be made unmanned, this is a completely normal step. And with computer tracking of targets, data transfer to the leading tank or to the center is already a secondary task, solved by itself.

[TTX]

Article by nothing

[Mestny]

Quote: Muvka

And you can find out from what sources you took information about the capabilities of the T-14? Share the link? You are so sure that the tank can’t do anything.

Well, where from? Teenagers, non-regular bloggers, and fighters against the regime have long known this - in American cinema they show. And this is known as the holy truth.

[Altona]

Quote: okko077

They will wet you, and you won’t even see who .... Naive dreamers, Rejoice at the fairy tale and dream .... And they have already made and use all your dreams against us .....

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Do you think that the Americans will be able to transfer armada of tanks to the "Russian theater of operations" and leave their deployment unnoticed? Or to deliver the squadrons of planes and "be in the cabin"? And for what? So that we destroy all this "conventional wealth" and leave the US without a Ground Force? The scenario that you described, that "you are being slaughtered, but you don't know who and don't see where" will not work with us. In the "War in the Gulf," all the air defenses were methodically kicked out of Iraq, and if they could not, they bought this data. Guess why this was done? And now compare our air defense capabilities with those of Iraq. And our satellites see where the Abrams and Bradleys are going with the ATGM TOU. So the blitzkrieg won't work. It will be long, painful and excruciating, and in the cold. And secondly, home-grown strategists will be reminded of "unacceptable losses", and they will be unacceptable for the Pentagon from the word "absolutely". This is not a farmer driving in the desert.

[KVashentcev]

Game over guys! Yankee go home!

[Engineer]

And how many hp does the tank have and can it heal in this game?

[Alexey RA]

The commander simply moves the cursor to the target, and presses the button to capture it. Then he sends the exact coordinates of the target and a picture from the battlefield to the gunner, he can even indicate, for example, that this tank is hit by the first, the BMP by the second, etc., and the gunner can only press a button.

They decided to fight on the auto-aim ... nubo!
Let even skins with break-through zones be sawed.

[Machete]

Nobody really knows anything about Armata, but everyone wants what is in him. Heh.

[Cobra77]

Quote: Altona

Quote: okko077

They will wet you, and you won’t even see who .... Naive dreamers, Rejoice at the fairy tale and dream .... And they have already made and use all your dreams against us .....

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Do you think that the Americans will be able to transfer armada of tanks to the "Russian theater of operations" and leave their deployment unnoticed? Or to deliver the squadrons of planes and "be in the cabin"? And for what? So that we destroy all this "conventional wealth" and leave the US without a Ground Force? The scenario that you described, that "you are being slaughtered, but you don't know who and don't see where" will not work with us. In the "War in the Gulf," all the air defenses were methodically kicked out of Iraq, and if they could not, they bought this data. Guess why this was done? And now compare our air defense capabilities with those of Iraq. And our satellites see where the Abrams and Bradleys are going with the ATGM TOU. So the blitzkrieg won't work. It will be long, painful and excruciating, and in the cold. And secondly, home-grown strategists will be reminded of "unacceptable losses", and they will be unacceptable for the Pentagon from the word "absolutely". This is not a farmer driving in the desert.

The gentleman, of course, threw with a shovel eastward. But in some ways he is right. We really have a serious lag in management, information support on the battlefield, and communications. Yes, we have quite a few good and even excellent weapons and combat systems. Thanks to the Union for the inheritance, which so far has not been possible to fall in love with. But the prodigy cannot win the war. We need a concept, a strategy, we need the integration of combat systems. Single info. space. And here is a complete failure.
In 41, the T-34 and KV were also good tanks. In armament and armor superior German. The number was also comparable. But the radio station is only on the command tank, there is no visibility from the tank, there is no combat coherence and ability to act in the group, the concept of application has not been worked out and is not tested. The result is fur. the corps, which were supposed to counter-attack the Wehrmacht, were bogged down, moved in the wrong direction, lack of fuel and ammunition (because of logistics, and not because they were not in stock), ran into the anti-tank artillery of which the Wehrmacht was very saturated. And the enemy was already experienced, with excellent intelligence and communications, with the interaction of the armed forces, he had behind him Poland, France and every other little thing. The result is a huge loss in manpower and equipment.
So I somehow do not want a repeat of the same story. Because this time we may not find Stalin, Zhukov, Rokosovsky, etc. And the dynamics of the war has increased significantly, to retreat to Moscow does not work. If the situation is unsuccessful, the war may end in a few weeks. And nuclear weapons may not save. It is not a panacea.

[Drshan]

Quote: okko077

The whole company, read if overpower.
Link: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/321/perspektivy-
create-globalnoy-informationnoy-seti-mo-ssha

The link is rotten.