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Shimon Peres dies in Israel

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Israeli television reported that ex-President of Israel Shimon Peres had passed away on 94. Doctors could not save him after Perez suffered a stroke about two weeks ago. Israel's ex-president passed away in Tel Ha-Shomer, in the ward of the Sheba Medical Center.


Shimon Peres dies in Israel


Shimon Peres (Shimon Persky) was born on August 2 of 1923 in the village of Vishnevo of the Novogrudok Voivodeship of the Polish Republic (now Minsk Region, Belarus). The oldest Israeli politician who occupied a considerable number of high government posts during his life: from a Knesset deputy and Israeli foreign minister to a prime minister and president. In particular, Shimon Peres was appointed to the post of head of the Israeli cabinet three times (1984 in September, 1995 in November and 2001 in March). In presidency - from 15 July 2007 of the year.

In 2010, by decision of the Academic Council of the MGIMO of the Russian Federation, for his merits in the field of international diplomacy, Shimon Peres received an honorary doctorate from the Moscow State Institute (University) of International Relations. In 2012, he became an honorary member of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Shimon Peres is a holder of the Order of the Legion of Honor (France) and the Nobel Peace Prize laureate, which was awarded to him in 1994, together with Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat for his work on resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
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  1. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 28 September 2016 06: 22
    +11
    There was a significant figure in History ..
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 28 September 2016 06: 53
      +12
      A legendary man who has done a lot for his people, for which he deserves respect.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 28 September 2016 10: 43
        +2
        The good man was
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 29 September 2016 13: 50
        +2
        The deceased are either good or nothing. Remembering the attitude of Peres to the Union - nothing is better. Although, of course, for his new homeland he is only in excellent epithets. And in geopolitics - of course, a figure. And rather big .....
    2. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 28 September 2016 17: 01
      +1
      ... Shimon Peres passed away
      belay and that "they" are mortal? In, business ...
  2. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 28 September 2016 06: 24
    +28
    Are we supposed to express sympathy on the site to the relatives and friends of the deceased? ... He was the leader of the state with which my Motherland openly was at enmity .. That’s all said .. All mourning should be in Israel, and not here ..
    1. Yak28
      Yak28 28 September 2016 06: 54
      +3
      Here sin + not put wink
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 September 2016 07: 03
      +18
      Quote: dmi.pris
      All mourning should be in Israel, not here ..

      Someone here declared mourning? Or do you hate Israel so much that you’re just being beaten up by the news. The famous leader of Israel, known in the world. Here is the news.
      McKein will die and here they will tell you about the same thing?
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 28 September 2016 08: 27
        +1
        Alexander Romanov
        McKein will die and here they will tell you about the same thing?

        ..... Well, according to the rules of customs and decency ... Let's say .... He was a good person! Personality! ... Sinned a little .... verbiage ... and who is not without sin? crying
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 28 September 2016 11: 50
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        The famous leader of Israel, known in the world

        Well, let the Israeli Jews talk about this famous leader, and are we grieving Russians then?
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 28 September 2016 11: 52
        +1
        McKein will die and here they will tell you about the same thing?

        Yah! They will dance for a week! The keyboard will be torn!smile
      4. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 28 September 2016 11: 58
        +1
        No, I’ll get drunk with joy ..
      5. guzik007
        guzik007 28 September 2016 12: 57
        +5
        A rare case. When I agree with Romanov.
      6. padded jacket
        padded jacket 28 September 2016 13: 16
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        McKein will die and here they will tell you about the same thing?

        Is Perez better than McCain?
        In my opinion, both this and this are exactly the same.
      7. avt
        avt 28 September 2016 15: 42
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        McKein will die and here they will tell you about the same thing?

        Mack Kane do not touch! He was offended by the Soviet government - for so many destroyed airplanes and a burned aircraft carrier, not only they did not give the Hero of the USSR - medals For Courage! wassat
        Quote: PKK
        Medicine will drive anyone into the coffin.

        Well, this is not about the newly introduced, This is about Ariel Sharon / Bulldozer.
        Quote: ochakow703
        As the saying goes, the dead is either good or nothing ...

        Quote: MVG
        .or nothing but the truth

        Something like that for sure.
      8. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 29 September 2016 13: 51
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        McKein will die

        I’ll drink a hundred grams - one bastard will become less ......
    3. Professor
      Professor 28 September 2016 08: 30
      +17
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Are we supposed to express sympathy on the site to the relatives and friends of the deceased? ... He was the leader of the state with which my Motherland openly was at enmity .. That’s all said .. All mourning should be in Israel, and not here ..

      You should here rejoice, rejoice and dance. How else? Perez has repeatedly attacked your "Motherland". fool

      And for the rest I’ll say that I very much disagreed with Peres and did not vote for him. Nevertheless, I respect him very much. No more politicians of this caliber. He worked for wear and not for himself. He understood Russian, although he spoke poorly. He stood at the origins of the creation of the state. Founded Raphael, Israel’s nuclear program. He made a decision about the operation in Eneteb. Do you really mention everything? He was only 48 years old in the Knesset ...
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 28 September 2016 11: 46
        +2
        Quote: professor
        He understood Russian, although he spoke poorly

        Interestingly, his mother was a teacher of RUSSIAN language!
      2. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 28 September 2016 13: 37
        +3
        Quote: professor
        He worked for wear and not for himself.

        Excellent health, I will say, worn out in 93 with a little
        Quote: professor
        He stood at the origins of the creation of the state. Founded Raphael, Israel’s nuclear program. He made a decision about the operation in Eneteb.

        Achievements for the good of Israel, to us they are by and large about nothing
        Quote: professor
        He was only in the Knesset for 48 years ...

        and they say that Putin was sitting in his place)))
        Quote: professor
        Perez has repeatedly attacked your Motherland.

        But our Motherland, dear Jew, is written without quotes, it’s in your quotes, because this cancer can’t be called a country either, sorry, of course, my personal opinion.
        1. Professor
          Professor 28 September 2016 14: 29
          +4
          Quote: viktorrymar
          Achievements for the good of Israel, to us they are by and large about nothing

          Well, nice. So let’s drink so that you never feel the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex in your own skin.

          Quote: viktorrymar
          But our Motherland, dear Jew, is written without quotes, it’s in your quotes, because this cancer can’t be called a country either, sorry, of course, my personal opinion.

          That "Motherland" is over. It was lowered into the sewer in Belovezhskaya Pushcha and hundreds of millions shouted "approvals". No one remained faithful to the oath and stood up to her defense with arms in hand. Ce la vie.
          1. An60
            An60 28 September 2016 14: 41
            +2
            Well, do not bother here on the site. Forget the Russian language. Learn Japanese.
          2. GYGOLA
            GYGOLA 28 September 2016 17: 13
            0
            professor Today, 14:29
            So let’s drink so that you never feel the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex in your own skin.

            No need to quarrel, threaten, no one disputes your exclusivity. You will not live up to 100 years, as the saying goes, all the more so because there is your own in the military-industrial complex of any country ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 28 September 2016 17: 32
              +2
              Quote: GYGOLA
              professor Today, 14:29
              So let’s drink so that you never feel the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex in your own skin.

              No need to quarrel, threaten, no one disputes your exclusivity. You will not live up to 100 years, as the saying goes, all the more so because there is your own in the military-industrial complex of any country ...

              1.No exclusivity.
              2 years is not the limit. It’s customary to wish up to 100 for our birthday.
              3. The Israeli military-industrial complex was largely created by Peres. There is an article about him. Perez created a textile mill in Dimona, Raphael and much more. He was the Minister of Defense and sent special forces to Enteb ...
              1. OLD FART
                OLD FART 28 September 2016 18: 38
                0
                Quote: professor
                Quote: GYGOLA
                professor Today, 14:29
                So let’s drink so that you never feel the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex in your own skin.

                No need to quarrel, threaten, no one disputes your exclusivity. You will not live up to 100 years, as the saying goes, all the more so because there is your own in the military-industrial complex of any country ...

                1.No exclusivity.
                2 years is not the limit. It’s customary to wish up to 100 for our birthday.
                3. The Israeli military-industrial complex was largely created by Peres. There is an article about him. Perez created a textile mill in Dimona, Raphael and much more. He was the Minister of Defense and sent special forces to Enteb ...

                Professor, are you pondering again ..? Well, under this article, they would be silent just out of respect .. (then you take offense ...))) hi
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 28 September 2016 15: 31
        0
        Political career began in 14. 79 years in politics!
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet 28 September 2016 09: 28
      +5
      Are we on the site should express sympathy to the family and friends of the deceased? ..

      Perez has always been very respectful of our country and in his speeches he urged not to forget who defeated Hitler. To sympathize or not, this is your personal matter.
    5. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 11: 45
      0
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Are we on the site should express sympathy to the family and friends of the deceased? ..

      I completely agree with you. Apparently now Russians will unobtrusively force us to mourn the death of every Israeli Jew.
  3. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 28 September 2016 06: 25
    +3
    Semyon Perm?
    Royal heavenly.
    But his activities, like Obama, .... many yes!
    In general - doves of the world ....
  4. Bath
    Bath 28 September 2016 06: 28
    +4
    right anegdod the old Jew dies ... and sho my grief must the whole world be? kosher news on VO .vo offense horns stick out drinks
  5. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 28 September 2016 06: 29
    0
    What kind of auto editor?
    Constantly goes over words!
    Here! I wanted to write it over, and this crap writes: it goes over.
    It’s difficult to write something better on a tablet. Then you won’t gather bricks ...
    1. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 28 September 2016 08: 58
      +3
      Disable auto-correction in the settings, but in this case, be prepared for a large number of typos!
      Good need a regular keyboard
  6. PKK
    PKK 28 September 2016 06: 35
    +2
    Medicine will drive anyone into the coffin.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 28 September 2016 12: 59
      +1
      without medicine. believe me, this happens much earlier.
      He lived to 88.
  7. ochakow703
    ochakow703 28 September 2016 06: 46
    0
    As the saying goes, the dead is either good or nothing ...
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 28 September 2016 13: 12
      0
      Correct: in the original source ... or just the truth.
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 28 September 2016 13: 26
        0
        For guzik007. ... or nothing but the truth
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 September 2016 07: 05
    +8
    It is, of course, difficult to say that Israel was or is a "friend and partner" of Russia, but a great politician with whom we found an opportunity to negotiate died. At the moment, this is an internal affair (and sorrow, if any) of Israel, and we have taken note.
  9. atalef
    atalef 28 September 2016 07: 05
    +12
    it’s not clear what this article does on VO, but for another breeding of flooding. This definitely does not concern you in any way.
    Peres is a man who has made history. He devoted his whole life to his state.
    Everlasting memory soldier
    1. Bath
      Bath 28 September 2016 07: 25
      +5
      Ahh mouse yom tov it certainly doesn’t concern us, but tell me what concerns you on our website? probably teach us the siblings?
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 28 September 2016 09: 31
        +1
        probably teach us the siblings?

        Well, not everyone thinks they are blue-legged smile
    2. cap
      cap 28 September 2016 07: 31
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      it’s not clear what this article does on VO, but for another breeding of flooding. This definitely does not concern you in any way.
      Peres is a man who has made history. He devoted his whole life to his state.
      Everlasting memory soldier


      I will fully subscribe to this opinion, and on my own I will add, there is someone with whom and how to compare the "current" NPM laureates from the past:
      "..... and laureate of the Nobel Peace Prize, which was awarded to him in 1994 jointly with Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat for their work on the settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "
      As they say "feel the difference ..".
      שינוח על משכבו בשלום.
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 28 September 2016 08: 33
        +5
        cap
        Quote: atalef it’s not clear what this article does on VO, but for another breeding of flooding. This definitely does not concern you in any way.

        I will fully subscribe to this opinion, and on my own I will add, there is someone with whom and how to compare the "current" NPM laureates from the past:

        So that's why they put it so that those who have brains besides their eyes can see an example and respect for what has been done, and not for what has been said!
    3. Mwg
      Mwg 28 September 2016 13: 39
      +2
      for atalef. I do not agree with you. Although Shimon Peres devoted his whole life to his state, his affairs in the interests of the state of Israel influenced both international politics and the international economy. And influenced steadily and for a long time. Such people become the property of the whole world, and not just the state for which they live and work, regardless of who speaks of their affairs and how. My opinion.
  10. miru mir
    miru mir 28 September 2016 08: 17
    +6
    Land in fluff ... A solid grandfather was.
    1. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 28 September 2016 08: 49
      +2
      Peace to the world-condolent people of Israel
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 28 September 2016 09: 08
        +4
        Thanks. Not in everything I supported him, but was a significant figure in Israeli politics ...
    2. andj61
      andj61 28 September 2016 15: 58
      +2
      One of the last bison of world politics of the 70s - 80s - 90s - 2000s is gone.
      Everlasting memory!
      Now there are no such politicians ...
  11. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2016 09: 10
    +4
    Quote: rotmistr60
    It is, of course, difficult to say that Israel was or is a "friend and partner" of Russia, but a great politician with whom we found an opportunity to negotiate died. At the moment, this is an internal affair (and sorrow, if any) of Israel, and we have taken note.

    Needless to say, politicians of this caliber can be counted on one hand. A man who has done a lot for his country, and not only. And worthy to be remembered. And nevertheless, I do not know how it is correct to say in such cases, but "Peace be upon earth" or "Rest in peace."

    I think that McCain or Obama, and many other ex-presidents of the United States, had gone now to another world - I personally would not have aroused any emotions in me. Compared to Perez, they are political "dwarfs"
  12. dojjdik
    dojjdik 28 September 2016 09: 36
    +1
    Jews themselves give Nobel prizes, Israel, mired in war and terrorism, invented a peace prize
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 September 2016 10: 11
      +12
      "Israel ... invented the Peace Prize."

      Israel invented everything (for 7 days of creation), along with the Peace Prize.
      But commissioning the Swedes wink .
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 28 September 2016 10: 46
        0
        Israel invented everything (in 7 days of creation)

        Although I pay attention to some of your comments, you should not attribute to Israel (although I understand that this is sarcasm) the work of the Almighty. Somehow not modest, regardless of what is with the subtext.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 28 September 2016 12: 40
          +2
          I accept criticism. Will not happen again recourse .
        2. Kaiten
          Kaiten 28 September 2016 16: 46
          +2
          Quote: rotmistr60
          it is not worth attributing to Israel (although I understand that this is sarcasm) the work of the Most High

          But you are not confused by the fact that the very appearance of Israel is a matter of the Almighty? Israel appeared after the covenant with Abraham. Without him, the Israelites would remain one of the pagan Semitic tribes, one of a dozen in that region. And most likely they would have disappeared without a trace, like the Phoenicians, Moab, Ammon, and many tribes around, whose names are known today, only thanks to the Jewish Pentateuch.
  13. krops777
    krops777 28 September 2016 11: 01
    +2
    For me it’s just a person, thousands of them die every day, they don’t print about a good doctor, engineer, although their contribution can be much greater, but about politics, show exchange is necessary, oh double standards .. sad
  14. Pimply
    Pimply 28 September 2016 11: 53
    +6
    In history there are personalities who personify her - history - in whom her breath is felt. Perez is one of those. One of the dinosaurs of the bygone era, a colossus. A man with his mistakes. I saw him up close several times, and every time I could not believe it - so he made a decision in the Entebbe operation, he created a military-industrial complex from scratch, he was a "discovery" of Ben-Gurion himself. It seemed that he would be eternal. No matter how you treat Peres, figures of this magnitude in the world are vanishingly few. And today one of them has decreased.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: Pimply
      Perez is one of those. One of the dinosaurs of the passing era, the colossus.

      Yeah, even more laudatory words, and yet not everyone understood how you love him.
      By the way pimply do not forget to say KU three times and bow.
      Quote: Pimply
      As Peres does not belong, figures of this magnitude in the world are vanishingly small. And today, one of them has become less.

      In Switzerland, Peres sued for bullying Palestinians
      A Swiss-based Palestinian human rights organization has accused Israeli President Shimon Peres of crimes against humanity. Peres covers the crimes against humanity committed by Israel, in particular during the days of Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip.
      According to the chairman of the organization, Anwar Al-Gharbi, the Goldstone report blames Israeli leaders for war crimes, and therefore the Swiss authorities should take action against Peres. "More than 1400 Palestinians, most of them women and children, have died in 22 days," Al-Gharbi said, urging other organizations to join the rally against Peres' visit.
      http://www.jewish.ru/news/world/2011/03/news99429
      5045.php
      South Africa demanded to issue an arrest warrant for Shimon Peres for "war crimes"
      The basis for the statement is the support given by Perez to France in the war with Algeria, as well as the shelling of the village of Cana during Operation Grapes of Wrath. However, according to Maariv, the main reason for demanding the arrest of the former president of Israel is his support for the apartheid regime in South Africa in the 70s and 80s.
      http://newsru.co.il/world/23feb2016/peres_507.htm
      l
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 28 September 2016 15: 30
        0
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Yeah, even more laudatory words, and yet not everyone understood how you love him.
        By the way pimply do not forget to say KU three times and bow.


        Vatnichek, my friend, but where did you get that I love Perez? Or do you just cringe about any name associated with Israel? Vatnichek, come again - Israel, Israel, Israel 8)
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 September 2016 16: 17
          0
          Quote: Pimply

          Vatnichek, my friend,

          Now I recognize you pimpled again from you, your usual "blue" slang rushing lol apparently again beguiled sites laughing
          Quote: Pimply
          Or does it simply mean you for any name associated with Israel? Vatnichik, come again - Israel, Israel, Israel 8)

          I wonder why you Israeli Jews in topics related to Russia climb and I can not Russian in Israeli?
          That you pimply decided so huh?
      2. Wiskar
        Wiskar 28 September 2016 20: 52
        +4
        Quote: quilted jacket
        In Switzerland, Peres sued for bullying Palestinians


        “Palestinian organizations continue to file complaints against Israeli leaders for media resonance. This case, as in previous similar cases that accompanied the president’s foreign visits, should not be given the slightest significance. The visit to Switzerland is on schedule in an extremely friendly atmosphere, ”said Presidential Spokesperson Ayelet Frisch.

        We know the result of filing a lawsuit; nobody was interested in the stupid and baseless attacks of pro-Palestinian organizations.



        Quote: quilted jacket
        South Africa demanded to issue an arrest warrant for Shimon Peres for "war crimes"


        Well ? Again a bunch in the air ..
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 28 September 2016 21: 01
          +4
          Quote: Wiskar
          Well ? Again a bunch in the air ..

          What surprises you? When did Mahmoud okromya bunch go out? laughing
  15. jovanni
    jovanni 28 September 2016 11: 58
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    it’s not clear what this article does on VO, but for another breeding of flooding. This definitely does not concern you in any way.
    Peres is a man who has made history. He devoted his whole life to his state.
    Everlasting memory soldier


    Yes as concerns? It concerns ... Precisely because we have such people in short supply. No, many people want to make history, they knock themselves on the chest with their fists, like we are patriots! And the other little hand meanwhile is ruining his pocket. And they are not in a hurry to devote their lives to their homeland.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Jovanni
      Precisely because we have such a deficit. No, many people want to make history, they knock themselves on the chest with their fists, like we are patriots! And the other little hand meanwhile is ruining his pocket. And in a hurry to devote their lives to their homeland

      In fact, in Israel, Peres, many Jews consider the traitor and agent of the Palestinians, and in financial theft, he lit up.
      So we don’t need to deify him here.
      For his passion for political intrigue and machinations he was popularly nicknamed "The Trick". The rivers of blood that the people of Israel paid with for the Peres "peace process" brought him a new nickname - "Shimon the Bloody".
      From the article:
      SHIMON PEREZ: DOSSIER OF THE AGENT OF INFLUENCE
      http://haifainfo.com/?p=13871
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 28 September 2016 13: 09
        +2
        For his passion for political intrigue and machinations he was popularly nicknamed "The Trick". The rivers of blood that the people of Israel paid with for the Peres "peace process" brought him a new nickname - "Shimon the Bloody".
        -------------------------
        Remember what they write about Stalin ... so what?
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 September 2016 13: 25
          +1
          Quote: guzik007
          Remember what they write about Stalin ... so what?

          And here is the great Stalin and some sort of Perez? These are figures of completely different scales and it is simply incorrect to compare them.
          Quote: guzik007
          For me, this is one of the mastodons of really great politics, the last of the Mohicans

          Yeah, one of those who developed the regional gendarme and the occupier of Palestine, the Tel Aviv regime is also equipped with nuclear weapons, apparently for attacking neighboring countries.
          1. Professor
            Professor 28 September 2016 14: 23
            +4
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Yeah, one of those who developed the regional gendarme and the occupier of Palestine, the Tel Aviv regime is also equipped with nuclear weapons, apparently for attacking neighboring countries.

            padded jacket, do not be so killed. You’ll never be so sure. By the way, Perez is one of those who were called Palestinians when Fylystyn was not yet invented by the KGB. He walked on Mandatory Palestine (now Israel), paid with the Palestinian pound (now Shekel), and the current Fylistians then called themselves simply Falah.

            Here Perez opens a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army. Has the Islamic State of Iran already opened such a monument?
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 28 September 2016 14: 57
              0
              Quote: professor
              padded jacket, do not be so killed. You’ll never be so sure.

              Yes, I’m not afraid, don’t worry, professor.
              Quote: professor
              By the way, Perez is one of those who were called Palestinians when Fylystyn was not yet invented by the KGB.

              That is, Peres recognized that Israeli Jews are only occupiers who live on land owned by Arabs?

              Quote: professor
              In the Islamic State of Iran have already opened such a monument?

              Of course, I understand that you are a professor only as they say only on paper professor lol But still go at least a few lessons of history and there you will find out that the Persians did not participate in WWII.

              Quote: professor
              Here Perez opens a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army.

              Indeed, it would be the Great Union and its army that saved you the Jews from extermination in Europe despite your ties with the Nazis and the fact that 150 Jews fought in the Wehrmacht ..
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 28 September 2016 15: 05
                +1
                The propaganda of National Socialism in Iran intensified after Hitler came to power in 1933. The Third Reich began to help Iran with technology and specialists. Many Iranian students and officers studied in Germany. Hitler's propaganda announced the need for an alliance between the "Aryans of the North" and the "nation of Zoroaster"; moreover, the Persians were declared purebred Aryans and by a special decree exempted from the Nuremberg racial laws. After that, lecturers and speakers on racial topics from Germany became frequent visitors to Iran, and German artists who organized exhibitions of their paintings glorifying the Aryan race there. And when in 1937 the leader of German youth, Baldur von Schirach, visited Iran, a magnificent meeting was arranged for him, and the Iranian youth marched with thrown up hands.
                1. avt
                  avt 28 September 2016 15: 45
                  0
                  Quote: miru mir
                  The propaganda of National Socialism in Iran intensified after Hitler came to power in 1933. The Third Reich began to help Iran with technology and specialists. Many Iranian students and officers studied in Germany.

                  wassat To the captain, mana, and where does Perez and his death ????
                  Quote: miru mir
                  In the special camps of Abwehr and SS in Poland, the Germans created the Turkestan Legion, which included the Iranians.

                  Well, this is understandable, but what about the Iranians and the Turans in the same Legion? The first time I hear.
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                    1. avt
                      avt 28 September 2016 16: 14
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                      Quote: miru mir
                      Chot with the Russian you have serious trouble. Not good, darling. Learn the great and the mighty!

                      Great and powerful Russian language, you need to learn and give links. And then I’m like in a song -
                      Someone was walking - I shouted into the darkness.

                      to the first shout "Who is coming?" he started joking
                      on a shot in the air he shouted: "Stop fooling!"
                      I hesitated a little and, without entering into an argument,
                      Chinarik spat out - and fired point-blank. "
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              2. miru mir
                miru mir 28 September 2016 15: 09
                0

                In the summer of 1942, on the banks of the Volga and in the Caucasus, grand battles unfolded between the Red Army and the Wehrmacht. The fate of Iran also depended on their outcome. The Germans then completed the formation of the 162th Turkic Special Infantry Division, one half of which were Germans and the other half were representatives of Turkic-speaking peoples, who for various reasons appeared in the service of the Third Reich. In the special camps of Abwehr and SS in Poland, the Germans created the Turkestan Legion, which included the Iranians. Before being sent to the front, the legionnaires took the oath, which stated that Allah blessed them and ordered them to obey the Germans in everything. In addition to these formations, on the initiative of Himmler, "mullah schools" were organized - two-three-week courses for their "retraining" in the spirit of the national-socialist ideology. They had to work in the Soviet rear and on the territory of neighboring Muslim countries. The specially created Free Muslim radio station, since October 1942, has called for a general Muslim uprising against England and the USSR.
                1. Operator
                  Operator 28 September 2016 16: 43
                  0
                  In 1933, the Jewish organizations of Germany welcomed the advent of Adolf Hitler and his apartheid policy - the creation of Jewish ghettos, the obligatory application of the Star of David to shops and restaurants owned by Jews, the prohibition of Jews from occupying posts funded by the state budget, studying at universities, etc. d.

                  It was a conscious policy of Jewish organizations aimed at stimulating the extrusion of their fellow tribesmen from civilized Germany into undeveloped Palestine.

                  The goals of the Third Reich and Jewish organizations fully coincided in terms of the struggle against the British administration of mandated Palestine, which opposed the spread of German influence in the Middle East and the Jewish colonization of Arab lands.

                  In this regard, the SS troops deployed in Germany a network of so-called agricultural camps for young German Jews, where they received two specialties at once - agricultural and sabotage. Over 40 of thousands of graduates of these camps emigrated to Palestine under the guise of refugees from Germany before 1 September 1939.

                  This corps of saboteurs formed Jewish terrorist organizations in Palestine, which launched a sabotage war on two fronts - against civilian Arab residents and against the British administration. Contacts between Germany and Jewish terrorists in Palestine did not stop until 1943, despite the policy of the genocide of Jews carried out by the Germans in occupied Europe.

                  It was the graduates of the SS camps who became the basis of the Israel Defense Forces in the 1948 year.

                  In honor of the beginning of a joint program of destabilization of Palestine, the Ministry of Propaganda of the Third Reich in 1934 issued a special commemorative medal

                  1. Professor
                    Professor 28 September 2016 18: 39
                    +2
                    Quote: Operator
                    It was a conscious policy of Jewish organizations aimed at stimulating the extrusion of their fellow tribesmen from civilized Germany into undeveloped Palestine.

                    I did not read further. This is "civilized" Germany.
                    1. Operator
                      Operator 28 September 2016 19: 26
                      0
                      What are you worried about, professor?

                      As you know, the SS consisted of French, Scandinavian, Turkestan, Ukrainian, Baltic and even Russian military units. No one in these countries especially disputes these facts.

                      But the first were Jewish sabotage and terrorist groups formed by the SS in 1934-39 years in Germany and transferred to Palestine under the guise of refugees from Europe.

                      It was with this fact that Britain's categorical refusal to accept new Jewish "refugees" in connection with the outbreak of WWII in September 1939, the deployment of ships with "refugees" to their home ports until their sinking was connected.

                      It is illogical to blame the Jewish organizations of Germany for collaborating with official government agencies in the period preceding the genocide of Jews in Europe (the so-called Holocaust).

                      Much worse is the fact that Jewish sabotage and terrorist groups in Palestine continued to cooperate with the SS even after the Holocaust began until the 1943 year, when Germany, for obvious reasons, lost interest in the Middle East.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 September 2016 19: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: Operator
                        What are you worried about, professor?

                        Why should I worry? I don’t need to look for fiber optic cable at the VLOS. request

                        Quote: Operator
                        But the first were Jewish sabotage and terrorist groups formed by the SS in 1934-39 years in Germany and transferred to Palestine under the guise of refugees from Europe.

                        So it was. I’m not going to ask the name of the participants, enough for you and the UFO, but I’ll ask you to turn on the brains. Those. do you think that under the guise of repatriates, Germany sent 40 saboteurs (two or three divisions) to Palestine who did not commit any sabotage against the Britons during World War II? Cool.
                        We know our history well and no "operators" will make me worry. For the rest, I inform you. During the fifth aliyah (1929-39), about 240 people came to Palestine. A quarter are from Germany. In your opinion, out of 000 people (women, children, old people) 60 were SS saboteurs? Now turn off your brains.
              3. Professor
                Professor 28 September 2016 18: 34
                +4
                Quote: quilted jacket
                That is, Peres recognized that Israeli Jews are only occupiers who live on land owned by Arabs?

                "Peres" is spelled with a capital letter, and "quilted jacket" with a capital letter. fool
                Peres gave the Arabs autonomy, otherwise they would have lived like Jordanian citizens.

                Quote: quilted jacket
                Of course, I understand that you are a professor only, as they say, only on paper is a professor. But still, go at least a few history lessons and there you will find out that the Persians did not participate in WWII.

                Today you’re going to sparkle with the mind. Do you think Israel participated in the Second World War?

                Quote: quilted jacket
                Indeed, it would be the Great Union and its army that saved you the Jews from extermination in Europe despite your ties with the Nazis and the fact that 150 Jews fought in the Wehrmacht ..

                And you are in shock. Perez was not in Europe in those years. He returned to his homeland long before Dzhugashvili kissed in a hickey with Hitler. For that matter, Peres was saved by the Britons.
                However, as always, you are flooded. Ahmenijad opened a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army or not?
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 28 September 2016 20: 35
                  0
                  Quote: professor

                  "Peres" is spelled with a capital letter, and "quilted jacket" with a capital letter.

                  I already know perfectly well with what letter it is written, and you, the professor, even if you are a Jew, should know that the beginning of a sentence in Russian is always capitalized.
                  padded jacket, do not be killed so you

                  You seem to consider yourself a scientist and very smart lol
                  Quote: professor
                  Peres gave the Arabs autonomy, otherwise they would have lived like Jordanian citizens.

                  Autonomy for the Arabs in the Arab Palestine captured by the Jews is strongly lol
                  Apparently great and smart was your Perez almost like you professorlaughing
                  Quote: professor
                  Today you’re going to sparkle with the mind. Do you think Israel participated in the Second World War?

                  Of course, Israel did not participate because it simply was not at that time as a state and formed its UN out of pity for Jews after WWII. But the Jews who live in it participated in WWII both on the side of the Nazis and on the side of the USSR of the USA and allies of the anti-Hitler coalition.
                  Quote: professor
                  Perez was not in Europe in those years.

                  What difference does it make to me whether he was there or not I’m talking not about him, but about the Jews whom the USSR saved.
                  Quote: professor
                  He returned to his homeland long before Dzhugashvili kissed in a hickey with Hitler.

                  Who would talk about Hitler if only not for Jews lol

                  Quote: professor
                  However, as always, you are flooded. Ahmenijad opened a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army or not?

                  Iran and the Persians in WWII did not participate, unlike the Jews, so they don’t have such monuments either ..
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 28 September 2016 20: 58
                    0
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    I already know perfectly well with what letter it is written, and you, the professor, even if you are a Jew, should know that the beginning of a sentence in Russian is always capitalized.

                    Although you are a Shiite, your "quilted jacket" will always be written with a small letter wherever you put it, at the beginning of a sentence or at the end. the name Perez is always capitalized. Hello Murnia.

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Autonomy for the Arabs in the Arab Palestine captured by the Jews is strongly
                    Apparently great and smart was your Perez almost like you professor

                    Count it up. The Arabs were granted autonomy by the Jew Perez, and not the King of Jordan who occupied Judea and Samaria (as they are in Arabic), not the Egyptian president who took the Gaza Strip and did not even Assad called Palestine part of Syria. Gap template.

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Of course, Israel did not participate because it simply was not at that time as a state and formed its UN out of pity for Jews after WWII. But the Jews who live in it participated in WWII both on the side of the Nazis and on the side of the USSR of the USA and allies of the anti-Hitler coalition.

                    Ahmedinijad unveiled a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army? He does not honor their memory?

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    What difference does it make to me whether he was there or not I’m talking not about him, but about the Jews whom the USSR saved.

                    And I'm talking about Peres. Article about him. fool

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Who would talk about Hitler if only not for Jews

                    quilted jacket, how can I explain this to you again so that you and your IKyu understand it? Come on like this. When your brother marries a Jewess, your nephew is born, they take a blood sample from him and find Jewish blood there and shout: "A descendant of a quilted jacket has Jewish blood !!!" Go explain to them that the descendant is not direct and that you never know what is mixed there ... fool

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Iran and the Persians in WWII did not participate, unlike the Jews, so they don’t have such monuments either ..

                    The Persians do not care about the blessed memory of the soldiers of the Red Army. Is there a monument to Griboedov there?
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 28 September 2016 21: 37
                      0
                      Quote: professor
                      Although you are a Shiite, but yours drove.

                      Well, firstly, I'm not a Shiite, I'm an atheist smile
                      And secondly, the professor drove it clearly over your "academic degree" which you yourself assigned the whole site laughs lol
                      Quote: professor
                      "quilted jacket" will always be written with a small letter wherever it is placed, at the beginning of a sentence or at the end

                      Here is one more confirmation that you are a professor, clearly studying for two again for you - The beginning of a sentence in Russian is ALWAYS written with a BIG capital.
                      Although you are a Jew and you probably miss the lessons quite often, and it’s excusable for you not to know.
                      Quote: professor
                      Hi Murnia.

                      Hi Jonathan Hadashi, Yotam Gilboa, Benjamin Gilman, and so on.
                      Quote: professor
                      The Arabs were granted autonomy by the Jew Perez, and not the King of Jordan who occupied Judea and Samaria (as they are in Arabic), not the Egyptian president who took the Gaza Strip and did not even Assad called Palestine part of Syria.

                      Yeah, an Israeli Jew gave autonomy to the Arabs of Palestine, with the participation of which the Arab Palestine was occupied by Jews and most of its Arabs became refugees in other countries or were killed.
                      Quote: professor
                      Ahmedinijad unveiled a monument to the soldiers of the Red Army? He does not honor their memory?

                      Oh, oh professor, it seems to you that something is completely wrong, therefore again especially for you - Iran and the Persians did not participate in the war from the Nazis, unlike the Jews, no one saved them.
                      Quote: professor
                      And I'm talking about Peres. Article about him.

                      Well, since you are talking about Peres, I’ll tell you this: the cowardly family of this Jew, and he, instead of fighting against Nazism, hid behind the backs of the British in Arab Palestine.
                      Meanwhile, our Soviet children fled to the front against Hitler to fight.
                      Quote: professor
                      a padded jacket, how would you explain it again so that you and your HayKu understand this? Here is your brother getting married to a Jewess

                      It’s evident that you have this same AyKyu clearly not great since you are carrying such nonsense.
                      Quote: professor
                      The Persians do not care about the blessed memory of the soldiers of the Red Army.

                      Why they just do not care, and the war did not directly concern them. No one says that the monuments to the USSR and its soldiers who died in the Second World War should stand, for example, throughout Africa, Latin America and the United States.
                      Quote: professor
                      Is there a monument to Griboedov there?

                      And for what?
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 September 2016 21: 42
                        0
                        padded jacket, the Persians do not honor the blessed memory of the soldiers of the Red Army, and the Israelis honor. Here is a lesson for you. hi

                        PS
                        Hi Murnia. wink
                2. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 28 September 2016 20: 46
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                  Professor, I apologize, but I have long had one question: After all, Perez was one of those people who came to power in the newly created republic of Israel, thanks precisely to the Soviet Union, so why was there a 180 turn?
                  Without irony, arrivals and other things, I just want to hear your opinion.

                  PS / Perez was a cool Pepper let rest in peace.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 28 September 2016 21: 48
                    0
                    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                    Professor, I apologize, but I have long had one question: After all, Perez was one of those people who came to power in the newly created republic of Israel, thanks precisely to the Soviet Union, so why was there a 180 turn?
                    Without irony, arrivals and other things, I just want to hear your opinion.

                    PS / Perez was a cool Pepper let rest in peace.

                    1. Israel is not a republic.
                    2. Israel was created not thanks to the USSR, but in spite of. You will find more details in my article.
                    3. In order for there to be a U-turn, it was first necessary to move in a certain direction, but Israel has never moved towards the scoop. He did not build socialism. What is then a U-turn? The scoop supported the enemies of Israel, the scoop broke diplomatic relations.
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 17
                      0
                      Quote: professor
                      Israel was created not thanks to the USSR, but in spite of. You will find more details in my article.

                      Professor your articles have long been read solely in order to laugh at them, they are like excerpts from the magazine "Murzilka" lol
                    2. PHANTOM-AS
                      PHANTOM-AS 28 September 2016 22: 44
                      0
                      Quote: professor
                      1. Israel is not a republic.

                      And what is this? Kingdom?
                      I was taught at school that Israel is a unitary state, a democratic parliamentary republic.
                      Quote: professor
                      2. Israel was created not thanks to the USSR, but contrary to

                      I see, did Captain Nemo help you? You explain all the same, who scored the pegs of the perimeter of your borders.
                      Quote: professor
                      and Israel has never moved towards the scoop.

                      Well, do not, it seems to you that all the Israelis are completely anti-Soviet.
                      But Vitya Naumov told me that you are the axis of evil, and I was all naive for internationalism!
                      Well, no, now I'm for Vitya !!!
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 29 September 2016 07: 35
                        0
                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        And what is this? Kingdom?
                        I was taught at school that Israel is a unitary state, a democratic parliamentary republic.

                        Call it what you like, only Israel does not call itself a republic.

                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        I see, did Captain Nemo help you? You explain all the same, who scored the pegs of the perimeter of your borders.

                        Fantomas helped. The scoop created the EAO and did not allow Jews to leave the USSR as early as 1924. Those wishing to leave went to health camps in Kolyma. By the way, which of the institutions of state power in Israel helped create a scoop?

                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        Well, do not, it seems to you that all Israelis are completely anti-Soviet

                        The world is not only black and white. As you know, there are other colors in it. I am an anti-adviser, but I won’t tell you for the rest. Israel walked and is on its way. The same Perez was an ideological socialist, but this did not prevent him, being the Minister of Finance, from defeating hyperinflation and pulling Israel out of the economic pit by capitalist methods. For which many thanks to him.

                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        But Vitya Naumov told me that you are the axis of evil, and I was all naive for internationalism!

                        Once said it means the way it is.
              4. Wiskar
                Wiskar 28 September 2016 21: 02
                +3
                Quote: quilted jacket
                despite your connection with the Nazis and the fact that 150 Jews fought in the Wehrmacht ..


                This is a known lie, which is used only by anti-Semites.
                It has long been refuted and proved that the author of this stupidity is just a liar


                Among all the warring states of World War II, the highest percentage of political and military collaboration was noted among citizens of the USSR
                In the territories occupied by the Third Reich and its allies, there were about 70 million Soviet citizens. In parts of the Wehrmacht from 1940 to 1945. served up to 1,5 million citizens of the USSR (only in 1944 up to 1 million), about 3 million more were in the Third Reich for forced labor

                According to K. Alexandrov, approximately 1941 million Soviet citizens carried military service on the German side in 1945-1,24: 400 thousand Russians (including 80 thousand in Cossack units), 250 thousand Ukrainians, 180 thousand representatives peoples of Central Asia, 90 thousand Latvians, 70 thousand Estonians, 40 thousand representatives of the Volga peoples, 38,5 thousand Azerbaijanis, 37 thousand Lithuanians, 28 thousand representatives of the peoples of the North Caucasus, 20 thousand Belarusians, 20 thousand Georgians , 20 thousand Crimean Tatars, 20 thousand Russian Germans and Volksdeutsche, 18 thousand Armenians, 5 thousand Kalmyks, 4,5 thousand Ingermanlanders (mainly in the Finnish army); no exact numbers of Moldovans

                1. Operator
                  Operator 28 September 2016 21: 38
                  0
                  No nonsense about the alleged absence in the Wehrmacht of 150 of thousands of Jews (according to the racial laws of the Third Reich) - this is Western data. Better count the number of Jewish police officers in Jewish ghettos across Europe - at the rate of one policeman for 300 residents.

                  And the largest share of collaborators was among the Poles - 100000 served in combat units and 800000 in the rear units of the Wehrmacht, not counting the Polish police as a whole and auxiliary units of the SS and SD.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 28 September 2016 21: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: Operator
                    No nonsense about the alleged absence of 150 thousand Jews in the Wehrmacht (according to the racial laws of the Third Reich) - this is Western data.

                    These data are in the studio, Mr. liar.
                    1. Operator
                      Operator 28 September 2016 21: 56
                      +1
                      Do not forget the topic - Google to help.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 29 September 2016 07: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: Operator
                        Do not forget the topic - Google to help.

                        I thought so. VOC with cable also in google? laughing
                2. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 28 September 2016 21: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Wiskar
                  This is a well-known lie that only anti-Semites use. It has long been refuted and proved that the author of this stupidity is just a liar

                  Apparently, due to the fact that this person was lying about 150 thousand Jews in the service in Nazi Germany, tens of thousands of Jews were captured in the USSR after the war. The rest apparently managed to escape to the US zone of responsibility of France England or to Palestine where they formed the backbone of underground Jewish terrorist organizations
                  The number of prisoners of war from June 22, 1941 to September 2, 1945
                  Nationality Total number of prisoners
                  Germans 2.389.560
                  Japanese 639.635
                  Hungarians 513.767
                  Romanian 187.370
                  Austrians 156.682
                  Czechs and Slovaks 69.977
                  Poles 60.280
                  Italians Xnumx
                  French 23.136
                  Yugoslavs 21.822
                  Moldavians 14.129
                  12.928 Chinese
                  10.173 Jews
                  Koreans 7.785
                  Dutch 4.729
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%
                  D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D
                  1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0_%D0%B2
                  %D0%BE_%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8F_%D0%92%D1%8
                  2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B
                  E%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8
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                  1. Professor
                    Professor 29 September 2016 07: 40
                    +1
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    10.173 Jews

                    Yeah, a padded jacket. All Fishnans, Groysmans and Kleimans, having fallen into the most humane Soviet captivity (the USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War), Jews immediately signed up from the Germans. You, too, are posing as Russian here. It is surprising that only 10. I thought it would be 000.
  16. guzik007
    guzik007 28 September 2016 13: 07
    +3
    An interesting debate here spread around the deceased. For me, this is one of the mastodons of really great politics, the last of the Mohicans. All that we see today, for the most part the husk, accidentally, or intriguing, seized power. Enemy? Maybe. It is not for us to judge. In any case, his peers considered him a worthy adversary and human being.
    They aren’t now made. They only appear from families that have survived the famine, the tragedy of families, and death during global wars, when the fate of nations is in doubt. From a generation whose great misfortune in childhood were unpeeled oranges and a squeezed bicycle, such people do not work.
  17. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 28 September 2016 13: 21
    +2
    יהי זכרו ברוך. Many did not love you, but always respected you.
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 28 September 2016 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: MACCABI-TLV
      Many did not love you, but always respected you.

      This is just about me. Peres has something to respect, but after the donkey agreements, there was no love for him. The politician was a big uncle, forgive me Gd. I will not forgive him and Beilin for the bus bombings in 1996.
  18. Mwg
    Mwg 28 September 2016 13: 23
    +1
    Kingdom of heaven. The great man was ...
  19. Machete
    Machete 28 September 2016 16: 11
    +1
    The great was a politician. not even today.
  20. avt
    avt 28 September 2016 16: 43
    0
    miru mir,
    Quote: miru mir
    I advise you to master at least the primer

    Which one? Well, Cyrillic, Glagolitic, literary, and even about two, at least, births. ? They also say there are runes.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 28 September 2016 17: 24
      0
      In your case, you can limit yourself to the Cyrillic alphabet.
      1. avt
        avt 28 September 2016 18: 53
        0
        Quote: miru mir
        In your case, you can limit yourself to the Cyrillic alphabet.

        Certainly, only - "Take off your hat" "What?" "Take off your hat"
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 28 September 2016 20: 29
          +1
          I do not understand the meaning of our conversation, dear. And I don’t understand the meaning of the majority of your remarks, in this thread, how does all your baby talk relate to the topic of the article and my answer to the lie of mahmud-quilted jacket? Are you trying to troll me? Are you just bored and have nothing to do? Do you know a joke about a cock? Like go to the market, buy a cock, etc.?
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 28 September 2016 20: 33
            0
            Quote: miru mir
            Joke about a cock

            I apologize, but why is the Rooster? recourse
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 28 September 2016 20: 35
              +1
              pitukh is the face of uh ... gay wink
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 28 September 2016 20: 46
            0
            Quote: miru mir
            on the lie of mahmud-padded jacket

            I look moysha-miru mir you are in earnest divided lol Did you really begin to learn the Russian language? Did you go to school from us to Israel?
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 28 September 2016 20: 58
              0
              If you, as usual, had a desire with someone to throw something, then call someone else, yah mahmud. There, at least avt laughing
              1. avt
                avt 28 September 2016 21: 17
                0
                Quote: miru mir
                If you, as usual, had a desire with someone to throw something, then call someone else, yah mahmud. There, at least avt

                He unsubscribed in a desire to remain the last in a witty, in his opinion, comment, plugging in the fact that he doesn’t twist the cock from the import. Oh wei, well, stay with that.
              2. padded jacket
                padded jacket 28 September 2016 21: 48
                0
                Quote: miru mir

                If you, as usual, had a desire with someone to throw something, then call someone else, yah mahmud. There, at least avt

                Well, throwing different byaka and dragging it into the "mouth" after that is purely your vocation moishe-miru mir. lol
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 28 September 2016 21: 55
                  0
                  Come on, goodbye, yah mahmud. This is for you, at night, so to speak laughing
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: miru mir
                    Come on, goodbye, yah mahmud. This is for you, at night, so to speak

                    And you are our moycha-miru mir don’t get sick look tomorrow on the spindle don’t wind up turner you are our Jewish lol
                  2. GYGOLA
                    GYGOLA 29 September 2016 13: 24
                    0
                    miru mir Yesterday, 21:55
                    Interesting 2 personalities, Kirkorov ordered them a clip laughing . Someone can familiarize Ramzan Akhmatovich with this, from 2.10 to 2-35 he will be especially interested laughing .a that person lives in ignorance ...
          3. Professor
            Professor 28 September 2016 21: 02
            0
            Quote: miru mir
            my answer to the lie of mahmud-padded jacket?

            Ahmed and Mahmoud are different names, albeit one-root.
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 28 September 2016 21: 08
              0
              In the case of the chapan, it is Mahmut wink
              1. Professor
                Professor 28 September 2016 21: 50
                0
                Quote: miru mir
                In the case of the chapan, it is Mahmut wink

                Ahmed he, Ahmed, though embarrassed by his name.
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 28 September 2016 21: 57
                  0
                  Professor, in my opinion, Mahmoud is a worldview, not a name.
                2. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: professor
                  Ahmed he, Ahmed though shy of his name

                  Particularly very suspicious are some Israeli Jews who are hiding behind Russian names and surnames, apparently under such an overlap, it is more convenient for them to lie on Russian sites.
  21. dumpy15
    dumpy15 28 September 2016 16: 56
    +1
    It is amazing how many of our former compatriots read VO.
    It is a pity that a sad occasion to meet on the forum.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 17: 11
      0
      Quote: dumpy15
      It is amazing how many of our former compatriots read VO.

      Do not be surprised Israeli Russian-speaking Jews here about thirty people were registered, they were considered on the old version of the site.
  22. OLD FART
    OLD FART 28 September 2016 18: 25
    0
    I can’t say anything bad ... The leader of the country and nation was world famous! I remember him in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict! It is a pity, of course, a clever politician ... Calm his soul in peace! hi This politician left his mark in history and big ..
    I’m not a Jew, but this song seems to be funeral for you .. (I sincerely and respectfully) hi
  23. Operator
    Operator 28 September 2016 20: 17
    +1
    Professor,

    All numbers correspond very well with each other - 40000 from 240000 is 1 / 6 or ten ages from 20 to 30 years, including women.

    And this despite the fact that the data on the first aliyah can be recognized as complete, or it can be called into question - such as illegal entry into Palestine.

    And yes - not all Jews who passed the SS camps had a military specialty of militants, demolitionists, etc. The female contingent received the qualification of medical trainers, radio operators, procurers, etc.
    1. Professor
      Professor 28 September 2016 20: 26
      0
      Quote: Operator
      All numbers correspond very well with each other - 40000 from 240000 is 1 / 6 or ten ages from 20 to 30 years, including women.

      I asked the brains to turn it on, but see this at the wrong address. A quarter of the olim were from Germany, i.e. 60 of which 000 saboteurs. 40-000 divisions. I believe.

      Quote: Operator
      And this despite the fact that the data on the first aliyah can be recognized as complete, or it can be called into question - such as illegal entry into Palestine.

      You can question anything, even the data of the Israeli statistical office and their colleagues from Berlin and London. To dream so in full growth.

      Quote: Operator
      And yes - not all Jews who passed the SS camps had a military specialty of militants, demolitionists, etc. The female contingent received the qualification of medical trainers, radio operators, procurers, etc.

      Who would doubt that. Laundresses are also needed in divisions and cooks. After all, 40 carried out sabotage ... scary to ask how much?
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 21: 02
      0
      Quote: Operator
      And yes - not all Jews who passed the SS camps had a military specialty of militants, demolitionists, etc.

      Some times who fled from Europe after the defeat of Nazi Germany where they served in the Wehrmacht then smoothly entered the army of the occupation regime of Israel and served already in the special forces of this aggressive state ..
      1. Wiskar
        Wiskar 28 September 2016 21: 08
        +3
        Quote: quilted jacket
        after the defeat of Nazi Germany where they served in the Wehrmacht, they then smoothly entered the army of the occupation regime of Israel and served already in the special forces of this aggressive state ..


        Your fantasies without facts and your attacks once again show your goal - stupid, deceitful and unsubstantiated attacks on Israel
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 09
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          Quote: Wiskar
          Your fantasies without facts and your attacks once again show your goal - stupid, deceitful and unsubstantiated attacks on Israel

          False fantasies that you have in Israel occupied Palestine and now they are inventing what "white and extremely fluffy" they are lol
          1. MACCABI-TLV
            MACCABI-TLV 29 September 2016 12: 09
            +1
            How can you occupy yours? Shiite is always with the logic of shvahhhh. Therefore you are a wildly funny troll. Oh, and this ... show the constitution and money of Palestine. You have a google worker, I know
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 29 September 2016 12: 29
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              Quote: MACCABI-TLV
              How can you occupy yours?

              What is your Israeli Jew? The UN formed TWO states, Arab Palestine and Jewish Israel, but Israeli Jews captured EVERYTHING and practically destroyed Arab Palestine, expelling Arabs from this land and brought Jews from Europe and the USA there who never lived in large numbers on this territory.
              Quote: MACCABI-TLV
              Shiite you always have the logic shvahhhh. Therefore you are wildly funny troll

              Of course, I understand that almost all Israeli Jews here are paid propagandists who work out their salaries by spreading hatred and Russophobia. Well, don’t have to make everyone laugh like that, constantly showing their deceit, poor education and bestial aggressiveness lol
              Quote: MACCABI-TLV
              Oh, and this ... show the constitution and money of Palestine.

              So you Israeli Jews destroyed Arab Palestine by occupying it.
              Occupation of Palestine 1948 War of the Year
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 47
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      Quote: Operator
      And yes - not all Jews who passed the SS camps had a military specialty of militants, demolitionists, etc. The female contingent received the qualification of medical trainers, radio operators, procurers, etc.

  24. padded jacket
    padded jacket 28 September 2016 22: 36
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    Quote: professor

    padded jacket, the Persians do not honor the blessed memory of the soldiers of the Red Army, and the Israelis honor. .

    Naturally, you Jews should honor the memory of Soviet soldiers to erect monuments to them and what to say there constantly bowing to them because it was they who saved most of the Jews of Europe while they were hiding in the basements and attics from Hitler’s evil spirits. But the Persians were not destroyed by the Nazis and there were no military operations with Germany on the territory of Iran ..
    Quote: professor
    Hi Murnia.

    Hi hi - adi cohen
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      Professor 29 September 2016 07: 43
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      Quote: quilted jacket

      Naturally, you Jews should honor the memory of Soviet soldiers to erect monuments to them and what to say there constantly bowing to them because it was they who saved most of the Jews of Europe while they were hiding in the basements and attics from Hitler’s evil spirits. But the Persians were not destroyed by the Nazis and there were no military operations with Germany on the territory of Iran ..

      It is clear that the Persians, like you, do not give a damn about the bright memory of Soviet soldiers. No wonder. Peres didn’t give a damn. Praise and honor to him for this.
      Hi Murnia.

      PS
      Here is a list of those hiding in the basements. Only from malice do not choke, atheistic Shiite. wink

      Jews led the war industry of the USSR during the 2nd World War

      Jews, Jews, all around Jews alone ...

      Jews in the Red Army during the Second World War
      1. bald
        bald 29 September 2016 08: 10
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        Without dwelling. But they were in charge of our secret design bureaus and did the job - (there are exceptions to betrayal, I came across).
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 29 September 2016 12: 50
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        Quote: professor
        It is clear that the Persians, like you, do not give a damn about the bright memory of Soviet soldiers.

        Twenty-five again, the Iranians of WWII did not have monuments dedicated to this war.
        Quote: professor
        Peres didn’t give a damn. Praise and honor to him for this.

        Another populist working for the crowd, primarily for the Israeli one.
        Quote: professor
        Here is a list of those hiding in the basements. Only from malice do not choke, atheistic Shiite.

        And what kind of nonsense is that? A million Jews fought and ten million hid in the basements.
        By the way, it is not known what positions mobilized Jews in the Red Army were in. I suspect that most of them served as supply managers in various rear units away from the front line of the front. Although, without a doubt, among the Jews in the Second World War there were heroes.
        But the fact that the Jews honestly served the USSR and, in particular, created weapons for it (from which, incidentally, then killed Israeli Jews) for this they honor and praise.
        It is an honor to work for the benefit of the USSR, although a whole galaxy of Jews of thieves looted and destroyed the Soviet Union in the 90s, such as various Berezovsky Gusinsky Gaidars and other specimens from the Semibankirshchina standing behind Yeltsin, spoils their reputation.
        1. Professor
          Professor 29 September 2016 13: 13
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          Quote: quilted jacket
          Twenty-five again, the Iranians of WWII did not have monuments dedicated to this war.

          Of course, the Persians did not fight the fascist infection and therefore they do not give a damn about the blessed memory of the soldiers of the Red Army.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          Another populist working for the crowd, primarily for the Israeli one.

          Are you talking about Putin with whom he opened the monument?

          Quote: quilted jacket
          By the way, it is not known what positions mobilized Jews in the Red Army were in. I suspect that most of them served as supply managers in various rear units away from the front line of the front. Although, without a doubt, among the Jews in the Second World War there were heroes.

          You are right as always. Here they are fraternizing with Hitler.


          padded jacket, say hello to Murnia as I will not feed you here anymore.
  25. bald
    bald 29 September 2016 08: 01
    +1
    Be that as it may, I feel sorry for this comrade. The question is complex. Jews are very smart people in life. They don’t do anything just like that. God is their judge - but I respect them - I am Russian.
  26. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 29 September 2016 12: 13
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    Interestingly, Vladimir or Dmitry will come?
  27. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 30 September 2016 12: 28
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    padded jacket,
    show the constitution and money of Palestine.
    I ask again