Alfa Bank and UralVagonZavod agree on a "peace"

“Alfa-Bank” went “to the world” with one of the largest enterprises of the Russian defense industry “UralVagonZavod”. We will remind that earlier representatives of Alfa-Bank declared their readiness to file a claim for recognition of its subsidiaries by the UVZ - ChTZ Uraltrak LLC and Technopark Traktorozavodsky LLC as bankrupts due to late payments on loans. UVZ acts as a guarantor when repaying the loan with its “subsidiary” structures to Alfa Bank, and therefore, from the time bank managers decided to transfer the claims to the whole UralVagonZavod.

The total amount of claims, taking into account fines for overdue loans, was set at about 7,36 billion rubles and 30 million dollars. Recently there has been a tendency to measure all the funds of Colonel MIA Dmitry Zakharchenko. If we measure the debt of the subsidiaries of the UVZ to Alfa-Bank, then it can be stated that the platinum colonel could have repaid this debt without much difficulty - with the funds he had kept until the house search ...

But bitter irony - aside. Interfax reports that Alfa-Bank and UVZ came to an agreement that the parties to the process waive the claims of a property and money nature. Recall that earlier the bank demanded to recover the property of UVZ as repayment of loan arrears.

However, the point in this dispute is not yet set. The next trial will be held tomorrow. In all likelihood, the court will finally complete the clerical work on two lawsuits, and the UVZ will deal with Alfa Bank (or vice versa) without involving a third party.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Roll up a couple of UVZ production units to the bank’s doors, and the claims, IMHO, will immediately dry out. And the leadership urgently on vacation will be requested.

[Finches]

It’s good that we agreed, obviously not without interference from high corridors, otherwise the bourgeoisie do not understand otherwise!

Sometimes, for some reason, the approach of the 17th year apparently affects some of the tricks of some, I would like to quote the immortal lines of V.V. Mayakovsky, with a small correction:

"Eat pineapples, grouse chew,
Your last day will come , bourgeois ... "

[cniza]

We first make problems, and where they should not be at all, and then heroically overcome them. Thank God.

[Temples]

We do not make problems. Problems make us with our connivance. Or recklessness or unlimited trust in all "partners", or goodwill.
And then when we start to twist the "partners" in response to the Faberge, they start yelling at the whole world. And how else with a twisted Faberge?

Bankers are representatives of "partners" on Russian soil.
Moreover, all bankers from all banks in which there is at least one penny or a cent of private capital.

[Monos]

Yes, in general, it was obvious that UVZ was too tough for them. But the lesson is good for both. Somehow more civilized relationships need to be built. With mutual benefit.

[Homo]

Quote: Monos

Yes, in general, it was obvious that UVZ was too tough for them. But the lesson is good for both. Somehow more civilized relationships need to be built. With mutual benefit.

What is Alfa-Bank and what is UVZ! The state will deprive the bank of its license (it will find a reason), but will never allow UVZ to go bankrupt. Moreover, Western ears stick out behind Alfa-Bank.

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, but you do not allow such an idea that banks (not all, but necessary) have already been reborn and have become that very State ..

[Homo]

Quote: dmi.pris

Yes, but you do not allow such an idea that banks (not all, but necessary) have already been reborn and have become that very State ..

No, I don't. Especially those like Alfa-Bank!

[sergey. 1967.1967]

These ears would not be a bad haircut.

[dauria]

What is Alfa-Bank and what is UVZ! The state will revoke the bank's license

Here is the answer of Alpha Bank, the office of the ruler of Russia (one of them)

Forbes List 2016


Michelson
Friedman
Usmanov
Potanin
Timchenko
Mordashov
Vekselberg.
Lisin
Alikperov
Khan

share of Alfa Bank's controlled shares https://alfabank.ru/f/1/about/shareholders/RB_132
6.pdf
Friedman 36%
Khan G.B. 22%

[Hon]

to deprive a bank of a license, it is necessary to violate the law by the bank, and not the desire of the state. The state has only one way to prevent the bankruptcy of an enterprise, to take over the debts of this enterprise. The article refers to the agreement between UVZ and the bank, given that the lawsuit has already been filed, this means a settlement, as a rule, in such a situation, the parties agree to pay the debt, draw up a payment schedule, and approve the settlement in court. for bankruptcy, simply having a debt is not enough, an executive document is needed.

[Alf]

With mutual benefit.

This is how Alfa-Bank conducts business profitably. For yourself. And if UVZ leaves this world, then, as "our friends" say, nothing personal, just business. Let's find another, more delicious victim for ourselves.

[aba]

"Eat pineapples, grouse chew,
Your last day will come, bourgeois ... "

It is completely inappropriate, since now the bourgeoisie just rule us and chew everything that they don’t get and are not even going to choke.

[drunkram]

Sometimes, for some reason, the approach of the 17th year apparently affects

And what is wrong with the 17th year? can be more detailed?

[Monarchist]

You definitely said that

[OLD FART]

What a strange story with this bank and the largest tank plant and not only in Russia! Such loud statements were that everyone would bankrupt the plant (this is the same as declaring Russia bankrupt ..))))) It is not clear here, which is obvious (especially when you consider that at that time the "Armata" was being developed .. Well come on!

[dmi.pris1]

It’s clear that no one likes the bankruptcy of the largest enterprise. It’s possible to blame the grabber bankers and even the Martians ... And let's look at the enterprises themselves .. First of all, the offices and factory directorates grow, production structures appear with siblings and relatives of the director’s corps with big salaries. And all this grows like a snowy crisis in the management crisis, and we wonder why Primorye Territory cannot finish building one corvette and why UVZ goes bankrupt ..

[OLD FART]

Perhaps you are still right ...! At a profitable enterprise, these are all office-sub-offices ... As mushrooms grow after rain, sensing profits .. And the workers and specialists tighten their belts!
By the example of Colonel Zakharchenko, I think it is possible to deactivate and sell any enterprise in Russia in parts (on metal) ...
One must still shoot ... Otherwise, Russia cannot be saved!

[dmi.pris1]

The tragicomedy is that you are not afraid of these types of execution. Well, maybe if you put them a hundred different and put them on the wall and bring the rest a few thousand (well, for the seed) to look .. But the confiscation up to the third knee is yes.

[OLD FART]

Quote: dmi.pris

The tragicomedy is that you are not afraid of these types of execution. Well, maybe if you put them a hundred different and put them on the wall and bring the rest a few thousand (well, for the seed) to look .. But the confiscation up to the third knee is yes.

And still you need to shoot ... I remember in Russia the wave passed in the late 90s (the most powerful) soaked a lot of thugs! But with such more difficult ...
Nevertheless, it is necessary to introduce the death penalty, nothing connects us with the West, and when they steal like this .... THIS ALREADY IS A THREAT TO THE STATE, as such!
Maybe it's enough to "liberalize" already, pushing the country into the frenzy of civil war and complete ruin ...?
Zakharchenko you will be the first rat ..!

[Stas157]

Quote: dmi.pris

.And let's look at the enterprises themselves ..

I totally agree with you! When an enterprise takes money from a bank, it’s not some kind of gifts, and you have to answer for your loans. Otherwise, the managers who cannot answer for their obligations are worthless! Moreover, the% under which large enterprises take loans is far from 20% per annum as we have with you, but somewhere around 8-10% per annum is maximum, and if targeted government loans are even less!
If a small businessman, well, or a simple person takes a loan, then he will somehow squeeze in his personal expenses until he repays the loan. Why do we have directors of state enterprises that cannot pay off loans so luxuriously and freely live? Salaries in millions of dollars! Yes, and steal! We don’t need to go far for examples, until recently there was a normal picture for us when an enterprise in full ass and workers delays salaries, does not pay for utility bills and electricity, but the administration lives and lives in the city better than anyone! Yes, you need to drive up such leaders! And do not stand up for them in front of banks. They stole already ten lives ahead!

[ssergn]

First of all, you need to blame the state, yes yes, our darling. Unfortunately, this is the fault in this situation. Starting with the fact that the giants of the defense industry let go free swimming, that is, left to their own devices - survive as you wish. Cut costs, spin on the side, but do not touch the social network of nini, since thousands of workers on the streets are a nightmare for any head of the city, and there’s a ton of everything (tariffs, land and other taxes and other other things). They were spinning, taking loans, getting into debt. And then the state suddenly remembered that it had such assets, trying to draw some from the catastrophe ... And the bank? And the bank is, as it were, between two fires: on the one hand, the flagship of the defense, one of the diamonds in the crown of the state, and on the other, the Central Bank - the representative of the state (for not returning 8 billion rubles + 30 million dollars on the head they will not stroke anyone, reserves and all that) . He can apply sanctions to the bank, up to the revocation of the license, if this leads to delays in payments on deposits (those guaranteed by the state) or to a hole in the bank’s capital with the same consequences.
Here is the bank, in fact, and declared a possible bankruptcy (in fact the blackmail of the state) in order to negotiate with the state.
Why am I doing all this, besides the fact that if some enterprises are special and the money for fulfilling orders to the state is only through loans (if they cannot allocate advances under contracts), then at least let the state give guarantees to creditors, so that later directly with them and rulitsya if that, and not engage in masturbation ....

[asiat_61]

First of all, you need to blame the state, yes yes, our darling ..... This is not our state, this is their state, and the rulers put it on us.

[aba]

A strange story with this bank and the largest tank factory, and not only in Russia!

Here's the thing: just say to some of them "fas!" and they will gladly bankrupt anything, even profitable, as was the case with many enterprises that were bought up by foreigners in the 90s and stopped producing any products, and then went bankrupt as unprofitable. Rather, there was an order for UVZ because of the cordon, I don't know how right now, but in the 90s there were quite a few foreigners in the Alpha Board.

[Stas157]

Quote: aba

Rather, there was an order at UVZ because of the cordon, I don’t know how right now, but in the 90s there were quite a lot of foreigners in the Alpha Board.

That all would not pay off the loans! That would be a simple citizen who cannot pay off with the bank, would not pay for the reason that this is an "order because of the cordon" or "there are many foreigners in the board"!
Maybe you don’t have to invent reasons, but you just have to pay for your obligations? After all, in any case, the head writes out his salary to himself, but there is no longer any chance to pay!

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Roll up a couple of UVZ production units to the bank’s doors, and the claims, IMHO, will immediately dry out. And the leadership urgently on vacation will be requested.

Awesome comment, just at the high school level for children with a limited level of development. But for the pluses it’ll do! Shooter shooter, are you really humiliated by development, or principles are not important for your rank. So stupid comment, a person, even with an average level of development will not find, you are our limited.

[Hunt]

Here I sit and think, is this good news or not? It seems good, the largest defense plant does not stop production, does not distribute its property. But, I can’t understand how the State generally allowed such a situation when a private shop affects the country's defense, and why not one decree did not answer for this?

[dmi.pris1]

How could one allow ??? Yes, very easily .. Just as the State allowed the collapse of the USSR.

[Banishing liberoids]

And why didn’t the state-funded strategic defense enterprise receive state funding, but had to take money (obviously on unfavorable terms for itself) from businessmen ???

[katalonec2014]

The "daughter" took the loan, but could not pay off on time, the Bank decided to load the parent company.

[ssergn]

The bank did not just decide, but was obliged to do so under a guarantee agreement. Otherwise, the Central Bank would have loaded it.
And you are not interested, for whom did the daughter fulfill the contracts? With what business UVZ would just like to sign up for sureties. At this level and for such amounts - at least it passed through the board of directors of UVZ itself, and there, state representatives are sitting there ...

[asiat_61]

state representatives are sitting ... That’s exactly sitting, it would not be bad for them for their salary and for work.

[woron333444]

The loan was not taken by a strategically important enterprise. It has long wanted to get rid of daughters, but for some reason it does not work.

[katalonec2014]

It may get rid of, but the enterprise itself is also divided up, and it’s tough, workers from other workshops do not have the right to enter the military workshops. In addition to tanks, the plant also produces civilian products, the same railway cars. You understand that it can be tempting for dishonest management a loan specifically for civilian products, money to slip through safely, and in case of a collision with the Bank, hide behind the status of a defense enterprise.

[K-50]

Quote: katalonec2014

It may get rid of, but the enterprise itself is also divided, and it’s tough, employees of other workshops do not have the right to enter the military workshops

This is at all enterprises of a mixed production cycle. Admission to the special workshop is only for those working there and related to the manufactured products, and everyone else has nothing to do there. Moreover, if even in one workshop there is a plot with specials. products, not only for military purposes (production of precious metals, for example, etc.), then even the workers of this workshop, except for the direct bosses, have no right to be there, even with a guided tour. The repair team is even separate.

[ssergn]

And the board of directors, as it were, not at work? Only the director decides everything? Representatives of the state are sitting on the board - and approving / not approving for transactions within the framework of authority, and it does not matter, a civil order or within the framework of the SDO.

[Finches]

Because Serdyukovs and Vasilyevs are sitting in government agencies, and Zakharchenko’s in the controlling body ...

[katalonec2014]

Quote: Finches

Because Serdyukovs and Vasilyevs are sitting in government agencies, and Zakharchenko’s in the controlling body ...

I agree, only how to change it?

[Samen]

I agree, only how to change it?

Resolution: Shoot!

[Finches]

No way - the essence of human nature, any form of government - always comes to the same thing - embezzlement! Any emerging System gradually replaces idealistic romantics who think about the common good, replacing them with subjective pragmatists - who bring profit not only to themselves, but also exclusively to the superstructure of the created structure! From here - the State - an organization that has political power, has special governance mechanisms and coercionestablishing legal order in a certain territory and possessing sovereignty.! The word - coercion - I singled out specifically!

[ssergn]

Zakharchenki - in "punitive". The controllers are slightly different.

[A jacket]

If you feed the baby all the time with a spoon, then the Great Naughty will grow out of him. There should not be any other financing, except for payment for the fulfillment of the state order. If the company does not know how to earn money and keep itself in good shape, then it will sooner or later go down and will be unable to maintain its strategic status.
And UVZ has already received more than enough funding (FTP RBP-2020) and state guarantees. The problem is that his "effective top managers" do not have the competencies to master all this and manage it all. By the fact that all this is issued in such a way that it cannot be plundered, and it can only be put into action and only according to the rules.
Armata is a merit not of the current leadership of the corporation, but of the engineering and technical corps and partly of the past leadership (until 2009). Mr. Sienko came to everything ready, those who created it, dispersed it, began to thoughtlessly spend easy money on any tinsel. And when the crisis of 2014 collapsed, it was impossible to quickly stop the flywheel of thoughtless spending, because kickbacks at all levels were already waiting for their recipients. Hence the debts at a frantic interest. Everything around is collective farm = everything around is a draw.

[katalonec2014]

The information is not thick, one thing is good that they will do without unnecessary noise.

[grau]

Where is this fucking FSB

[Banishing liberoids]

grau-they are at your door ... already ...

[Alf]

Where is this fucking FSB

On Geliki along Nerezinova he dissects. Do you think that these kids appeared in a clean place? They have dads who think the same and behave the same way, realizing that the "crust" will cover everything. And who work in the same office.

[kepmor]

Yes, where does the FSB?
And what prevents Putin and Medvedev from forcing the Central Bank to lend directly to the defense industry?
Yes, the same Sberbank with VTB, with their capitalization, would easily cope with this task.
Or are they afraid of Jewish bankers, all sorts of Friedman with avenues, leave no margin?
Apparently the "gut" in front of the Jewish lobby ...
Ah, I completely forgot that all the reserves of the country, "like the people," are kept over the hill, counting the same Jews.

[Enoch]

So I "want" to set up a lot of banks and live.
UVZ is a producer of material and specifically in the subject, but do banks produce sho ???

[ssergn]

Anecdote to you, that's right to the point:

"Dad and son:
- Dad, here you are a banker, right?
- Well.
- Here you take money from people, and then give it back. What is the point of this?
“Look, I’m taking a piece of fat,” he opens the refrigerator, takes out the fat.
“Now put it in its place.”
The son stares blankly. Dad:
- And your hands are fat! + "

[katalonec2014]

It may get rid of, but the enterprise itself is also divided up, and it’s tough, workers from other workshops do not have the right to enter the military workshops. In addition to tanks, the plant also produces civilian products, the same railway cars. You understand that it can be tempting for dishonest management a loan specifically for civilian products, money to slip through safely, and in case of a collision with the Bank, hide behind the status of a defense enterprise.

[grau]

Quote: Florizel

I think goes to you;)

Let the scarecrows ride a hedgehog naked booty

[Monarchist]

Question: Is UralVagonZavod a state-owned enterprise or a private shop? If the second is sad.
In the Russian Empire, state-owned factories and private enterprises worked for military needs. State-owned factories did not look at bank loans. It turns out that under the Sovereign there was more order?

[dvina71]

Quote: Monarchist

In the Russian Empire, state-owned factories and private enterprises worked for military needs. State-owned factories did not look at bank loans. It turns out that under the Sovereign there was more order?

YES, what are you? And also the monarchist ..
http://istmat.info/files/uploads/26498/fabriki_i_
zovodi_1912_8.pdf
Learn .. at your leisure. The whole list.

[Bloodsucker]

Frank lies your statement about

Quote: Monarchist

State-owned factories did not look at bank loans. It turns out that under the Sovereign there was more order?

Didn't you get tired of arranging a clowning, depicting in the 21st century a fan of rotten Nikolaev Russia?
He had completely decayed at that, since his inner circle had thrown him away, not least those who had stolen so much ... that you wondered where you got into them.
Soldiers robbed one of the smokers on hats as much as 17 VERST, not centimeters, but VERST-translate into kilometers?

[sergeyzzz]

Recently, a tendency has appeared to measure all the means of the Colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Dmitry Zakharchenko.

And how many such colonels we have in the country, and yet there are also generals

[K-50]

Alfa Bank and UVZ agreed that the parties to the process waive claims for property and money.

Well, right. UVZ is facing a daunting task - the release of "Armat" and others like them, plus the T-90 and other goodies for the state.

[afrikanez]

Here is a paradox, manufacturers of military equipment cannot cope with money lenders. You just have to do nothing, fire the latest weapons several times and that's it, "hello big"! There was a bank and it is not. In general, it is a complete disgrace and partly treason if banks are trying to "strangle" the defense industry. For this, the bank should not be stroked on the "head", but rather hit hard, so that it would not be common.

[vobels]

"..UVZ will deal with Alfa-Bank (or vice versa) without involving a third party ..." This is right. And the money, most likely, was delayed by the state treasury for the state. order. It happens often.

[lshka]

Only today I heard ... and well, those to you ... Not really, but almost the same
To fight corruption, Stalin would have ordered 4 cemeteries to be allocated, not 89 billion rubles ...

[23424636]

one thing is surprising: how can one borrow from a bank whose leader lives in England and comes from Lviv and his nationality is not Slavic. In UVZ, of course, super financiers and a security service at the level. But in order to prevent such a blunder you need to have an intelligence below the 3rd year student of a financial specialty. Somehow, at the time of Yanukovych they asked if it was possible to place a deposit in Alpha, he called friends in Moscow. The answer is, are you the first to throw about changes to the terms of the contract. I think the owners of UVZ should monitor the level of the plant’s financial services pro at the same time to clean the Agdia stables of the former committee members sitting in the plant’s security services

[ssergn]

Delirium, delirium and again delirium.
So Alpha is in the top 10 - the largest private bank in the country. You were not interested in the question - why Alpha, and not the Security Council of the Russian Federation, for example, or VTB? Or maybe the stupid first 9 banks (state-owned banks) from the list stupidly did not want to lend to UVZ?

[midshipman]

I think that under the subordination of Vice Prime Minister D. Ragozin, it is necessary to create a structure that should support defense enterprises that owe banks. Many enterprises have billions of dollars in debt that must be restructured, otherwise the enterprises will go bankrupt. Defense enterprises must work stably, but the criminals of the leaders must be ruthlessly shot. Remember the readers of "VO", as the director of JSC MKB "Compass" (I will not name the last name) was able to withdraw 800 million from the budget of a defense enterprise. rubles for personal use. Why did we not even think about it in Soviet times? Dozens of defense enterprises were subordinate to my GU, where more than 200 thousand specialists worked. We could not even think to steal a ruble from the money of enterprises. I have the honor.

[bastard]

Board of Directors of Alfa Bank
Peter Schmida
Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Bank, Member of the Board of Directors of ABH Holdings SA
Oleg Sysuev
First Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Peter Aven
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank, Chairman of the Board of Directors of ABH Holdings SA
Andrew Baxter
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Sergei Vasiliev
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Andrey Elinson
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Ildar Karimov
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Eduard Kaufman
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank
Andrey Kosogov
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank, Member of the Board of Directors of ABH Holdings SA
Alexey Marey
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank, Chief Executive Officer, Member of the Management Board
Michael Friedman
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank, Member of the Board of Directors of ABH Holdings SA
Rushan Khvesyuk
Member of the Board of Directors of the Bank, General Manager of PJSC Alfa Bank (Ukraine)

This is from here:
https://alfabank.ru/about/management/board_of_dir
ectors /

Those who are not too lazy can drop by and look at the faces of these ordinary guys with simple Russian surnames.
Or maybe it’s time to shoot a little, shoot a little? It is unlikely that the president supposedly has a thin gut, he only gives them. Sorry.

[ssergn]

Well, now the studio includes the board of directors of UVZ

[bastard]

Quote: ssergn

Well, now the studio includes the board of directors of UVZ

Are you too lazy to use Yandex services? I DO NOT BELIEVE!!!

[ssergn]

As you might have guessed, I don’t need it, you show the readers, since you thought it necessary to lay out the composition of SD Alpha ....
The question is not just in my competence, but in who made the decision to approve loans / sureties if that .....

[Ivan Ivanov]

Nefig make vital production dependent on merchants.

[A jacket]

Nefig make vital production dependent on merchants.

They drive themselves into this dependence.

[tundra]

Quote: STARPER

Not clean here, something is clearly

Quote: dmi.pris

. First of all, offices and plant management are expanding, production structures appear with offspring and relatives of the director’s corps with big salaries.

Quote: Stas157

Why do we have directors of state enterprises that cannot pay off loans so luxuriously and freely live? Salaries in millions of dollars!

You know, not defending the bank, I think, all the same, the management of the UVZ is MUCH GUILT.
There are many relatives and acquaintances left there.
And not from one I heard that UVZ never likes, pay on time,
And often brings the case to court.
It’s just that Alpha turned out to be a tighter nut. Everyone unanimously blames the Moscow management,
Well, we don’t like the Varangians,
there were many examples
Well, about the whole microdistrict, in our area on the seashore I generally keep quiet
These are the middle managers
What is there about larger ones to say?
There would be an accounting chamber and a prosecutor’s check.
For example, for what money my sister’s former steering wheel has real estate in France.
Covering yourself with the fact that defense is comfortable
Well, hard workers are sitting, two-thirds, for a long time.
Leadership is naturally not in poverty.
Cronyism is simply terry, they optimize everything, at the same time coming up with posts for their offspring
Oh, there is no man of the OKUNEV scale!


,

[tundra]

Quote: 23424636

I think the owners of UVZ should monitor the level of the plant’s financial services pro at the same time to clean the Agdia stables of the former committee members sitting in the plant’s security services

Definitely, someone was not sickly warming his hands, and then later grabbed his head.
Hiding behind the status of the enterprise.
In general, a thief at a thief. And so on and so forth.

[SMikhalych]

and UVZ will deal with Alfa-Bank (or vice versa) without involving a third party.

"... here, more than ever, a personal visit is important. And arrange the arrival of an ambulance tank on call. This is no longer a group of psychologists who calms you down under the motto" Whether there will be more! "These are us, specific guys, a platoon of firearms sympathy. And so that there is a rumor that it has become unsafe to lie to us, that because of an unknown tenant I may come with friends, and our reservation is also deaf, and let him take away his lies, which seems to him to be an ability to talk with people, at least for a while let it no longer be worked out by his presidential iron, let him not teach us, for he has no results, and it is already impossible to expect that he will understand himself ...
.....
"Who's that smart here?" - "I!!!" And drive up closer, thundering and shooting upwards with completely blank, that is, very lonely, charges.
And it's also good to have a friend on a helicopter to fly a little ahead, and a couple of friends with machine guns to run a little behind. "(C) M. Zhvanetsky