CEO of a corporation: hypersonic weapon will appear in Russia at the beginning of 2020

Hypersonic weapon in Russia should appear at the beginning of 2020's, told the newspaper Kommersant Boris Obnosov, general director of Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation.

“I cannot disclose all the details, but I already have some groundwork. If we compare it with the USA and China, something is better with us, something with them. In the USSR, this topic was studied since the 60s, but during the years of perestroika it was almost forgotten. But I believed and I believe that the development of hypersonic projects will give a huge impetus to all branches of science - be it aerodynamics, computing systems, engine-building, materials. Therefore, we raised this issue before the country's leadership, ”said the head of the company.

The development is carried out in collaboration with academic universities of the country, the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Advanced Research Foundation. The work also uses Soviet developments in the framework of the projects “Cold” and “Cold-2”.

“It would be simply impossible to make a hypersonic weapon from zero, although the necessary technologies already exist. Imagine how the homing head should work at 8-10 Mach speeds? Under such conditions, plasma is formed at the surface of the rocket, the temperature regimes are beyond the limits. Previously, no one knew how all this would affect the operation of systems and units. Now these issues are being worked out, ”said Obnosov.

He also noted that "work on hypersonic topics requires large investments in research and field experiments, but the expected results will be worth it."

The project "Cold" was devoted to the creation in 70-ies "ramjet engine for a hypersonic aircraft."

In the framework of the Cold-2 project, at the end of the twentieth century, the Central Institute of Aviation Motors (CIAM) presented a mock-up of the flying laboratory Igla. The aerospace vehicle was supposed to provide a speed range from 6-ti to 14 M.

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[katalonec2014]

I hope they don’t take any chances until the 20th, the pain in the rhetoric at the emergency meeting of the UN is very aggressive, so look what will begin soon.

[Hunt]

Yesterday I shot hazel grouses, a very beautiful hunt, you sit with a decoy whistling, three cockerels fly in, sit in the visibility zone of each other, and begin to "aggressive rhetoric" the feathers gape, they seem almost the size of a capercaillie, yell, shouting over each other, I waited for an hour, I thought they would clash but no. He shot two, thought the third would at least fly away, out of fright he decided to merge with the tree. In short, an excellent soup of three aggressors! These are also.

[cniza]

I hope they don’t take any chances until the 20th, the pain in the rhetoric at the emergency meeting of the UN is very aggressive, so look what will begin soon.

Let's hope, but they have a lot of "fools".

[magician]

not aggressors, but soup stats)))

[Rozmyssel]

Hypersonic weapons in Russia should appear in early 2020, Boris Obnosov, general director of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation, told Kommersant newspaper.

MOSCOW, April 19. / TASS /. The Zircon hypersonic missile, which is currently undergoing government testing, is expected to enter serial production in 2018. A source in the Russian defense-industrial complex told TASS on Tuesday.

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Boris Obnosov, Head of the Tactical Missile Armaments Corporation
Hypersonic missile program reaches flight test stage

"The state tests of Zircon, in accordance with the contract, are planned to be completed in 2017, and next year to begin its serial production," the source said.
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2748782

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Why are we constantly hanging noodles on our ears? That is 17 years, then 18 years, now 20 years, as with the second-stage engine on the packer and they shift and shift, to hell with that, if only I would ask these directors-managers, what’s the matter?

[Iline]

In fact, creating a hypersonic missile on its own is not that difficult, and you can handle the X-15 for the Tu-22M3. It was created, incidentally, in 1978. This is a word of disbelief in the success of the voiced work.
Here the snag is a little different - in the method of controlling the rocket itself. Last year, it seems, the Americans played around with their products, but nothing good came of it because of the emerging plasma at such speeds. The radio signal stupidly does not reach the receiver on the rocket. And from her transmitter, however, too. If our guys succeed, then everything in the world will die. So let's hope.

[Simple]

Quote: Iline

not so much complexity and X-15 for Tu-22M3

firing range ... 300 km, and "hypersonic" conditionally = when diving from a height of 40 km.
Engine: solid fuel, two-chamber RDTT-160
difficult, very difficult

Quote: Iline

Last year, it seems, the Americans played around with their products,

and continue.
09-2016 The US Department of Defense has announced a contract with the American company Lockheed Martin to conduct research to create a prototype hypersonic carrier.
The cost of the ordered work on the Mach 5 Tactical Boost Glide project was estimated at $ 147,3 million, RIA Novosti reported with reference to a statement by the ministry. The project will be overseen by the United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

Quote: Iline

The radio signal stupidly does not reach the receiver on the rocket. And from her transmitter, however, too.

Plasma radio wave propagation. Generation of radio emission by plasma oscillations


strange you.

inertial navigation system - what plasma is a hindrance?
in our X-15 everything "reaches":
X-15P - passive guidance correction system, by radar beam from the target;
X-15С - Active, radar guidance guidance system. The maximum launch range depends on the size of the target and is 60-150 km.
Americans have "stupid plasma"

[aszzz888]

And not a day goes by without the media "giving out" - here, this super weapon is on its way! Can we wait for SPECIFIC and official data?

[dmi.pris1]

Forgot about the "skin of an unkilled bear" .. Although the Soviet backlog can be brought under a modern base.

[Comrade Glebov]

And don't speak. The intensity of leavened patriotism in the media exceeds the consumption rate of the average listener. It would be nice that by 2020, but taking into account our "economy", we are unlikely to pull out something like that in marketable quantities. Plans will change a hundred times.

[Monos]

Quote: Comrade Glebov

And don’t talk. The intensity of kvass patriotism in the media exceeds the consumption rate of an ordinary listener.

And what? What is wrong with the designers talking about what they are working on? For example, I am interested. And if you're not interested, go read the TTX T-34 or the tactics of using a two-handed sword. So after all, it will not be interesting to you. You are interested in throwing a known substance on the fan.
Tired already irresponsible demagogues!

[lis-ik]

So the beginning of 2020 is also a vague concept, in theory until 2025 it can be safely considered the beginning.

[gridasov]

Everything is exactly the same as in financial matters, investors trying to protect their investments from risks asked mathematicians to create a model of such protection. Those, in turn, invented derivatives as a system of mathematical search for a solution from a set of successive unknowns or a preliminary condition for solving a problem. Likewise, the creation of a hypersonic aircraft depends on the fact that "IF" will solve preliminary scientific problems. This means that there is still no scientific justification for creating such flight capabilities, and officials are already ringing about future victories. At the same time, manufacturers are between two "fronts" - between those who will explain to them what and how to do and those who already require something to be done and given.

[CT-55_11-9009]

Oh, the jokes begin!

[dmi.pris1]

If you delve into the old cabinets there you can find SUCH .. The defenders did not even dream ..

[iConst]

Quote: dmi.pris

If you delve into the old cabinets there you can find SUCH .. The defenders did not even dream ..

Pozdnyak - there are already all and sundry rummaging. I witnessed how, shouting "peace, friendship, chewing gum," they dumped all the secrets they could reach before the "partners". Maybe they didn't have time to do something - Putin pinched his fingers.

[dvina71]

Quote: iConst

Quote: dmi.pris

If you delve into the old cabinets there you can find SUCH .. The defenders did not even dream ..

Pozdnyak - there are already all and sundry rummaging. I witnessed how, shouting "peace, friendship, chewing gum," they dumped all the secrets they could reach before the "partners". Maybe they didn't have time to do something - Putin pinched his fingers.

YES it was .. It’s scary to remember Sukhoi was already almost bankrupt, he was going to make a profit in Boeing. EMNIP, at the direct direction of Putin, then money was allocated to the bank.

[gridasov]

Aha! Like the Po-2 has already flown at such speeds. The issues of achieving hyperspeeds in the main part are solved "from the future" and on new breakthrough and fundamental ideas, and not "from the past" and on the basis of which could not be achieved under any conditions.

[gridasov]

Nothing like this . There are materials that accumulate ordinances over time. The transformation of scientific generations leads young people away from the systematic nature of knowledge that was in the old scientific school. The scientists of the Soviet scientific school were comprehensively educated. They saw the "picture" in terms of a wider range of options and possibilities. Therefore, such times are called the epochs of "REVIVAL". The preconditions for such stages of human evolution always occur. Another interesting thing is that the Internet forms a new consciousness of people who, in large amounts of information, can see the systematic nature of certain processes. And then this secret knowledge, which is now poorly understood, can simply become additional "puzzles in a folding picture".

[Hunt]

Greetings Dmitry! Well, how is the situation on the site after the changes? I haven’t been there for a month!

[Banishing liberoids]

Until 2020, the Earth can from the orbit of the site !! By and large, such statements are part of the information war, the goal of which is to keep the adversary in a state of continuous nervous tension.

[Corsair]

Truly I tell you, on May 4, 2020, the Earth will fly on the celestial axis. (To paraphrase the Dog’s heart)

[guzik007]

-... We have "SOMETHING" developments.
-Hm ..
- By the 20th year we’ll definitely launch ...
-Op on!

[gridasov]

"You cannot sew boots without knowing how, from what, for what conditions and much more, all this is needed." For those who do not understand at all what hyperspeed is, it is worth recalling that the density of information events reflecting real physical processes increases unimaginably many times. Moreover, the processes of transformation of physical processes are associated with such levels. which cannot be experimentally displayed on the near surface layers of the atmosphere. Therefore, you first need to solve a whole complex of fundamental problems, if possible, mathematical analysis of such high-potential processes, and only then try to create something.
Therefore, as with Bulgakov - "a person is lying and does not know what he is doing." And in simple terms, he simply does not understand at all what he was told to talk about. Ask any expert what and what contributes to the appearance of "fogs" when flying an aircraft. What kind of physical process is this in general and what is its algorithm for the preceding and next stage.

[Old26]

Quote: Iline

In fact, creating a hypersonic missile on its own is not that difficult, and you can handle the X-15 for the Tu-22M3. It was created, incidentally, in 1978. This is a word of disbelief in the success of the voiced work.
Here the snag is a little different - in the method of controlling the rocket itself.

This is not the only snag. What you cited as an example is a rocket with a rocket engine. Now both we and the Americans are working on products with ramjets. And while, apparently, with the same success, that is, without success.

Quote: Iline

If our guys succeed, then everything in the world will die. So let's hope.

If we succeed, others will succeed, the same States. Physics, it is the same everywhere.

Quote: dmi.pris

If you delve into the old cabinets there you can find SUCH .. The defenders did not even dream ..

And if you dig in old American closets, you can find something that we never dreamed of. Damn, stop writing nonsense about the fact that we have SOMETHING in the storerooms that no one dreamed of. The USSR, like Russia, is a state on earth. We didn't come from Alpha Centaur or Betelgeuse. Alien technologies that would be possessed exclusively by Russia do not exist in nature. Physics we have with the Americans is the same, as well as aerodynamics and the rest. Developments between us and the Americans have always gone head-to-head, because if someone in technology and weapons had been pulled out for a long time, the other would have ceased to exist. In some ways we were ahead of the Americans, in others they were. Somewhere we had to catch up, somewhere they. so there is no need for conspiracy theories about CABINETS ..

Quote: pascal1973

Great news! Whatever the day, the victory over the West in the field of weapons !!!

Du well, is it a victory? And in what military unit are the fruits of this victory put into service today ??? Zadolbalo this lulling and cheers-patriotism. What's in the media, what's on the resource

[NEXUS]

Old26

And in what military unit are the fruits of this victory put into service today ???

Good evening, Vladimir.

Hypersonic weapons in Russia should appear in early 2020

It seems to me, or is this slightly inconsistent with reality?
TARK Nakhimov will be commissioned at the end of the 18th beginning of the 19th year. At the same time, the main caliber is Zircon. Then the question arises, what will be put on Nakhimov before the 20th year? Gauges with Onyx?
Something is darkening our designers. Although on the other hand, maybe it is right.

[gridasov]

The concept of a ramjet engine is an obstacle to obtaining such physical processes that will make it possible to fly faster and to realize this using the potential of air.

[venik]

Quote: Old26

If we succeed, others will succeed, the same States. Physics, it is the same everywhere.

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Yes, my friend: PHYSICS - She is SUCH! The same, in general .... But not everyone knows her equally well! Here the mattresses, for example, stated that they had developed the aerodynamics formulas for hypersonic flight - only in the mid-0s. And in the Union, these formulas were developed (and tested, by the way) back in the late 70s .....

[venik]

Quote: Old26

This is not the only snag. What you cited as an example is a rocket with a rocket engine. Now both we and the Americans are working on products with ramjets. And while, apparently, with equal success, that is, without success

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Ltd! That is, you think that achieving hypersonic with a rocket engine is finally IMPOSSIBLE ??? Here, in fact, the problem is EXCLUSIVELY in ECONOMY! Direct exhaust pipe is much more economical, and hence the flight range ....
Well, about "no success" - read about "GELA" .....

Quote: Old26

Developments with the Americans have always gone head to head, because if someone in technology and weapons had been pulled out for a long time, the other would have ceased to exist

In fact this is not true! Rather - not at all! The fact is that (on average per hospital) in the field of FUNDAMENTAL research we were ahead of them, and significantly, but in the field of APPLIED research - vice versa ......

[gridasov]

Where do you take profitability from a ramjet engine?

[gridasov]

In general, I am greatly doubling how scientists calculate the physical processes at ultrahigh with formulas. The main high potential physics processes. That is, aerodynamics is calculated separately, Separately thermodynamic processes Separately physical phenomena associated with the transformation of air flows, etc. If so calculated, then this is wrong and not logical. The whole set of processes in their transformation algorithms should be analyzed.

[keeper03]

Guys, we already have it, only shhh ...! Let the warrior scratch his turnips and buy tons of diapers !!!

[Old26]

Quote: NEXUS

It seems to me, or is this slightly inconsistent with reality?
TARK Nakhimov will be commissioned at the end of the 18th beginning of the 19th year. At the same time, the main caliber is Zircon. Then the question arises, what will be put on Nakhimov before the 20th year? Gauges with Onyx?
Something is darkening our designers. Although on the other hand, maybe it is right.

Good evening, Andrey!
That's the whole point. "Zircon" has been sounded, but whether it will be or not is unknown. The only thing that calms down is that the launchers will be universal for all three complexes. Therefore, even if there is no Zircon, there will be no need to rebuild the aircraft carrier.
As for readiness ... At least in one place (on "Military Russia") I read about the tests of "Zircon". Although not only on the "MR". So that's it. Of the 5 known tests, only ONE was completely positive
How accurate is the number of these tests is HZ. But if there are problems, then they will not be solved in one minute. It may take months, or even years, to develop and eliminate bottlenecks.

[Nitarius]

Chelyabinsk meteorite))) is it full-scale tests?))) Well then not bad))

[Old26]

Quote: venik

Here the mattresses, for example, stated that they had developed the aerodynamics formulas for hypersonic flight - only in the mid-0s. And in the Union, these formulas were developed (and tested, by the way) back in the late 70s .....

There is a saying: "Trust but check". There is another: "I heard a ringing, but I don't know where he is". So, sorry, and you. The Americans have been experimenting with hypersonic spacecraft almost from the mid-60s and probably didn’t know the formulas in their sleep. And what you said about 0s ... Most likely it’s not about the fact that the Americans developed the formulas, but about the flights of their unmanned GZLA X-43A, which in one of its flights reached a speed of 9,6M

Quote: venik

Ltd! That is, you think that achieving hypersonic with a rocket engine is finally IMPOSSIBLE ??? Here, in fact, the problem is EXCLUSIVELY in ECONOMY! Direct exhaust pipe is much more economical, and hence the flight range ....

Have I written about this somewhere? Kamrad line said about hypersonic X-15 in the context of missile weapons. I noticed that this is not quite right. X-15 had a rocket engine, and not a ramjet engine. You already immediately concluded that I do not consider the achievement of hypersound using a rocket engine at all possible? it yours, not my words. On the economy of speech did not go.

Quote: venik

Well, about "no success" - read about "GELA" ....

And what was I supposed to read about GEL? What was such an apparatus? Yes there was. When it was tested and whether it was tested at all is completely unknown. The mentioned apparatus speed (not design) - 4,5 M - is not hypersonic. What is the success? That the program was closed a quarter of a century ago and 5-7 years dragged the layout from MAX to MAX?

Quote: venik

In fact this is not true! Rather - not at all! The fact is that (on the "average for the hospital") in the field of FUNDAMENTAL research - we were ahead of them, and significantly, but in the field of APPLIED - vice versa ...

I would like to hear in which specific areas of basic research we are ahead of them, and significantly. What is the criterion? In the context of the conversation, apparently it is necessary first of all to consider fundamental research in physics? Or not? We have always had excellent physical science schools, but about leadership in basic research, one can argue.

For me, the tangible criterion for such leadership is, oddly enough, the Nobel Prize in Physics. And here we are far ahead.

For your information:.
From 1943 to 2015, the prize received 155 people. Of them Americans - 85, ours - 9. I would be glad to hear that I am wrong in speaking of leadership in basic research, but to hear reasonably, and not like that: everyone knows that.
Well, what about applied, especially in the field of military equipment - here it’s different, sometimes we are ahead, sometimes they