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Stole 285 million - get a suspended sentence!

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News about justice is often confirmed by the thesis that if someone from mere mortals stole a mobile phone, then a real time is waiting for him, and if someone from “difficult” mortals organizes embezzlement of budget millions or billions, then the verdict of the court is conditional . This thesis is confirmed by newspaper reports. "News"In the material of which it is said about a conditional term for a person convicted of embezzling more than 285 million rubles.


We are talking about the ex-deputy general director for economics of the GKNPTs im.MVHrunicheva Alexander Ostroverhe. Ostroderh was under house arrest in the summer of 2015, by decision of the Basmanny Court of the city of Moscow. He was charged under part 4 of Article 160 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The title of the Criminal Code article reads: “Assignment or embezzlement, committed by an organized group or on a large scale.”

Stole 285 million - get a suspended sentence!


The investigation was conducted GSU Investigative Committee of Russia.

After months of litigation, the Dorogomilovsky court of the Russian capital pleaded guilty to Alexander Ostroverh of misappropriation of funds, but decided to make a very lenient sentence: 5 years conditional term. Such a softness of the court is explained by the fact that Ostroverh agreed to cooperate with the investigation and spoke about the scheme of withdrawing funds from the budget of a strategically important enterprise for Russia, as well as the fact that minors are dependent on him. At the same time, there is no information whether the mentioned 285 million rubles were returned to the company's budget or not.

In this case, there are other defendants. Judicial proceedings against them continue. However, the question: "Where is the money, Zin?" still remains relevant ...
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 26 September 2016 06: 54
    +49
    "Ostroverh agreed to cooperate with the investigation and spoke about the scheme for withdrawing funds from the budget of an enterprise strategically important for Russia, as well as the fact that minors are dependent on him."

    Do you have children? He told me how he stole? Take a walk, honest man. No.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 26 September 2016 07: 10
      +23
      No, this is not for everyone there ... Here, just your own person, but there is still your own on the board, then in general the matter would have collapsed.
      1. major071
        major071 26 September 2016 07: 37
        +66
        The voice of the people goes into the void
        In Russia, not the people, but the oligarchs decide everything
        Climbed into the budget, and at a high post you
        He stole three apples - they plant it on 10 years ..
        wink drinks
        1. cniza
          cniza 26 September 2016 07: 40
          +6
          If you returned the money, there are no problems, you can conditionally, but you can’t understand from the article.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 26 September 2016 07: 56
            0
            Quote: cniza
            If you returned the money, there are no problems, you can conditionally, but you can’t understand from the article.

            If a bank hit it powerfully through it, then it’s possible to cut down a dough too.
            1. Yuri from Volgograd
              Yuri from Volgograd 27 September 2016 01: 13
              +4
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Quote: cniza
              If you returned the money, there are no problems, you can conditionally, but you can’t understand from the article.

              If a bank hit it powerfully through it, then it’s possible to cut down a dough too.

              Chic call to action!
              Like stealing, in extreme cases, you will return that steal.
              In traffic control, you need to enter this - crossed the solid, then turn back and drive according to the rules.
          2. Comrade Schucher
            Comrade Schucher 26 September 2016 08: 10
            +36
            Specifically plant individuals and for the fact that a little stolen.
            You can steal a bunch of dough only with the support or with the participation of additional persons, that is, a team.
            With a stubborn chicken, will you tear off the leg of the track and the leg of the prosecutor?
            And the speed of proceedings in the investigation of petty thefts is two to three weeks and is already in the zone.
            But for "immodestly" large amounts, the burden goes from a year to as long as necessary - they simply divide, to whom - how many: the investigation, the prosecutor's office, the court.
            And the leniency of the sentence is determined by the sum of what was squeezed out by the previously mentioned and the steepness of the "intercessors" of the caught.

            There, the well-known aunt who had torn off the Army, crouched a bit - UDO - the will, and she’s feeling quite well.
          3. Lust1g
            Lust1g 26 September 2016 08: 20
            +7
            They catch you, it means, with the stolen - "So, we take it, and you have a condition. And do not get caught in the future!"
            1. Saffron
              Saffron 26 September 2016 09: 09
              +1
              It’s more correct - the next time he’s gone, on time, otherwise we’ll take everything away and have to return it to the budget and nothing will get to anyone
          4. Aleksander
            Aleksander 26 September 2016 08: 28
            +14
            Quote: cniza
            If you returned the money, there are no problems, you can conditionally, but you can’t understand from the article.

            Then WHAT will stop potential thieves if there is NO punishment? No conditional!
            1. leshiy076
              leshiy076 26 September 2016 08: 54
              +22
              Yes ... Stalin shot such people and did the right thing, you see, and others were not in the habit.
              1. murriou
                murriou 26 September 2016 08: 57
                +8
                And now they are moaning about the mullions of the innocently killed lol
          5. weksha50
            weksha50 26 September 2016 13: 55
            +3
            [quote = cniza] cniza Today, 07:40 ↑ New
            If you returned the money, there are no problems, you can conditionally, but you can’t understand from the article             . [/ Quote]

            Under such conditions, you can steal your whole life, to infinity ...
            Caught - gave - forgiven ...
            The next time - I didn’t get it - I didn’t give it away - 285 millionaires will be enough for myself, and to share ...
            And so on ...
          6. electrooleg
            electrooleg 26 September 2016 14: 35
            +1
            It is impossible conditionally. Then everyone will try to steal, since there is a correct scheme to move on a condition. Until the shootings return such garbage will continue!
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 26 September 2016 22: 30
              0
              electrooleg
              Until the shootings return such garbage will continue!

              This garbage will continue while the president party and its sympathizing citizens are in power.
              So you need it!

              Ps / Lord, make the oil run out in Russia! Amen!
            2. Kahlan amnell
              Kahlan amnell 2 October 2016 01: 10
              +1
              Quote: elektroleg
              It is impossible conditionally. Then everyone will try to steal, since there is a correct scheme to move on a condition. Until the shootings return such garbage will continue!

              Who will return? "EP"? Soon we will see the sky in the box than these gentlemen will do something to their detriment.
          7. Thompson
            Thompson 26 September 2016 21: 28
            0
            From the article it’s clear that I didn’t return it, otherwise we wouldn’t keep silent
        2. Iline
          Iline 26 September 2016 07: 55
          +14
          Quote: major071
          The voice of the people goes into the void

          The people have already given their "voice" in the elections for stability. Now there is no one to blame.
          What? So far there have been no such court decisions? Let's wait - soon the Zakharchenko’s case will fall apart, and they will also pay to his billions stolen for moral and legal costs.
          1. Lust1g
            Lust1g 26 September 2016 08: 24
            +6
            Do you mean the Duma? They don't solve anything. "Wrong" laws will not be passed by the SovFed. Yes, and if desired, the objectionable Duma can be dissolved. (This is not considering how fair or not fair the elections could be)
          2. weksha50
            weksha50 26 September 2016 14: 05
            +6
            Quote: Iline
            We’ll wait - soon the Zakharchenko’s case will fall apart, they’ll also pay stolen to its billions for moral and legal costs.


            Hmm, probably - it will be appropriate, since they started talking about the "selectivity" of our justice ...

            Here's how to understand the fact that the "lads" who painted the spire in Moscow on a high-rise with a star and ears framed in the colors of the Ukrainian flag were released cleanly for "lack of guilt" and - most importantly (!!!) - the court awarded them payment as moral compensation (this, apparently, for the "atrocities against them in the basements of the Lubyanka") to each an amount close to 3 lemons rubles (somewhere around 2,8) ???

            I, as an ordinary citizen, consider this act to be vandalism and abuse of my country and its capital, and I see in their act a crime ...
            However, our native and humane court did not see any guilt ...

            In my personal opinion, it already smells not just a cover for theft, but much worse ... negative
        3. Gardamir
          Gardamir 26 September 2016 08: 16
          +10
          The voice of the people goes into the void
          In Russia, not the people, but the oligarchs decide everything
          Climbed into the budget, and at a high post you
          Stole three apples - planted for 10 years
          What about Stalin’s repressions, the current excuses will be worse than the so-called repressions.
        4. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 26 September 2016 11: 13
          +8
          Quote: major071
          The voice of the people goes into the void

          Our mind is seething indignant? laughing
          I will quote again:
          5.02.2011, Moscow 17: 13: 44 The State Duma adopted a law aimed at further liberalization of the criminal law. The president of the Russian Federation earlier came forward with the initiative to introduce the corresponding amendments to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          The law, in particular, excludes the lower limits of sanctions in the form of imprisonment under 68 corpus delicti. In this case, the upper limits remain unchanged. Such crimes include fraud (part 4 Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), illegal banking activities (Part 2 Art. 172 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), legalization of funds and property acquired by criminal means (Part 3 and part 4 Art. 174 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), price manipulation in the securities market (part 2 Art. 185.3 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), commercial bribery (part 4 Art. 204 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), etc.

          Before voting for "stability", we would have read the laws that these "right guys" have passed. lol
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 26 September 2016 22: 46
            +1
            Sotskiy
            Before voting for "stability", we would have read the laws that these "right guys" have passed.

            There is no time for Whatman to read, they look at the zombie man, and then they vote with their hearts. belay
        5. vlad_vlad
          vlad_vlad 26 September 2016 11: 21
          +4
          major071 Today, 07:37 ↑ New
          The voice of the people goes into the void
          In Russia, not the people, but the oligarchs decide everything


          Strange - In power there is a party in power, chosen by this very people. This party is supported by the president. And the party supports the president. Together they rule.

          And they don’t know, it turns out that all the oligarchs decide. Someone: you tell them something about the story, tell the truth to the president and deputies. And then they may not be in the know.
        6. Donhapa
          Donhapa 26 September 2016 11: 40
          +4
          Quote: major071
          The voice of the people goes into the void
          In Russia, not the people, but the oligarchs decide everything
          Climbed into the budget, and at a high post you
          He stole three apples - they plant it on 10 years ..
          wink drinks


          A simple Russian man. soldered for chicken to the maximum,
          And thieves from the "God-chosen" for the stolen billions by their Jewish judges go to multi-room apartments, or even escape punishment
          1. vlad_vlad
            vlad_vlad 26 September 2016 14: 57
            0
            Donhapa
            And thieves from the "God-chosen" for the stolen billions by their Jewish judges go to multi-room apartments, or even escape punishment


            and they drank the water in the tap ... and in the elevator ... children ... the stool - also from them.

            Donhapa! Raise your self-esteem! how can it be - it seems that they themselves are all God-bearing, but God's chosen ones are still stronger?
        7. NordUral
          NordUral 26 September 2016 17: 54
          +3
          Where did you hear the Voice of the People? The people stubbornly, like the last donkey, ignore the elections. And he gets the power that he deserves. Sit in the trenches guys. But remember that no trench will save from such power. These outside jurisdictions will not let us down, and they will put us vividly for their vitally indifferently to the wall.
        8. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 27 September 2016 01: 47
          0
          murriou,
          mdyayaya, there were many different people here, but there are some eternal ones, they sit trolling, provoking.
          So, for example, did Userpick and Normal fly away for sho?
          But it’s not rude and literate guys. And many are completely blindfolded, but it’s a pity.
          And others, and read the Necho, sorry for the emergency.
          Chur, chur, otherwise Kote will take it, he’ll start scribbling laughing
      2. 13 warrior
        13 warrior 26 September 2016 10: 08
        0
        Before the Law everyone is equal, but some are more equal!))
      3. Donhapa
        Donhapa 26 September 2016 11: 28
        +2
        Quote: dmi.pris
        No, this is not for everyone there ... Here, just your own person, but there is still your own on the board, then in general the matter would have collapsed.



        Indeed, Jews do not punish their own, or conditionally
      4. mig29mks
        mig29mks 27 September 2016 10: 55
        0
        I want it too))))))))))
    2. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 26 September 2016 07: 14
      +19
      In my opinion, the law enforcement and judicial systems are full of "agents of influence", embezzlers and simply opportunists, there are only a few honest ones. Yes, not 37 years old, but a pity, because this is the fifth column of Russia.
      Well, the fact that the media love to relish such facts is also part of the information war against our country and cause a steady mistrust of the authorities.
      Wake up, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, and carry out the reform of the MGB not only on paper, it’s time, then it will be too late.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 September 2016 07: 18
        +20
        Quote: USSR 1971
        law enforcement and judicial systems

        Once the embezzlement has been identified, proven and brought to court, it means that law enforcement officers have worked normally, but the judicial decision is very big questions.
        1. My address
          My address 26 September 2016 08: 11
          +14
          Eugene! hi

          Not only to the judges. Question and to Putin. This he said that the main thing is inevitability.
          And I know for sure that the main thing is responsibility, and in proportion to the damage caused. Controlling influence d.b. in proportion to the deviation from the normal course of things - these are "seeds" in the science of management.

          "Raised" the city - to the order. He robbed the city - to the wall and confiscation. And then the country will flourish. And patriots will go to power. And anyone in power will think twice before giving valleys and seas to neighbors (see Medvedev and his gifts to Azerbaijan and Norway).
          1. Hapfri
            Hapfri 26 September 2016 08: 51
            +2

            "Raised" the city - to the order. He robbed the city - to the wall and confiscation. And then the country will flourish.

            Setting to the wall in any quantity has never led to any flourishing. We have already passed this stage.
            The heyday comes where there is an opportunity to realize the personality. In science, art, entrepreneurship ...
            1. murriou
              murriou 26 September 2016 09: 02
              +17
              Setting thieves and traitors to the wall cannot be the ONLY remedy for flowering.
              But it remains inevitable.

              And the opportunity "to be realized in entrepreneurship" is interpreted by many as an opportunity to steal without restrictions and without fear.
            2. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 26 September 2016 09: 05
              +21
              Setting to the wall in any quantity has never led to any flourishing. We have already passed this stage.

              Lie, the industrialization of the USSR was carried out in a couple of five-year periods! The same goes for post-war devastation. Gagarin flew into space 16 years after the end of the Second World War! So the methods were very effective and led to the desired results!
            3. Bloodsucker
              Bloodsucker 26 September 2016 09: 16
              +14
              Quote: Hupfri
              The heyday comes where there is an opportunity to realize the personality. In science, art, entrepreneurship ...

              Yes ... that is not a single masterpiece, in art, cinema, theater, literature, over the past 30 years, "the flowering of creative personalities" have not seen, the flowering of vulgarity, yes, the dawn of homoperfomance, some other kind of art, CINEMA, THEATER as it was not so and no, why would it be?
              Actually in other areas, the picture is the same.
            4. 13 warrior
              13 warrior 26 September 2016 10: 12
              +5
              Remembering repression, you forget about achievements.
            5. NordUral
              NordUral 26 September 2016 17: 51
              +2
              Why not - an example - the Stalinist rise of the country.
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 26 September 2016 18: 40
            +1
            “Not only to the judges. The question is also to Putin. It was he who said that the main thing is inevitability.
            And I know for sure that the main thing is responsibility, and proportionate to the damage caused. Control action d.b. in proportion to the deviation from the normal course of things - these are "seeds" in the science of management. "

            Alexander, welcome. hi You know, I sometimes have the feeling that the real struggle against all the rubbish in the power of the GDP is reserved by the time the rating falls among the people. When Syria and Ukraine do not remain (which are also important, of course), then the heads of the real embezzlers and corrupt officials will fly away. Small inspectors, inspectors, and lower-ranking officials for statistics seem to be caught and judged, often often strictly indicatively. But for thieves from the highest echelon, I have not heard something about serious deadlines. recourse
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 26 September 2016 08: 13
          +5
          then law enforcement officers still worked fine, but there are very big questions for the judicial decision
          you are like a child, by golly. The authorities arranged a crisis for the people, thinking that it would not affect it. Touched! So you have to share everything in a new way, but not in the style of the 90s, but in a modern way!
        3. asiat_61
          asiat_61 26 September 2016 16: 41
          +1
          And how, after such a court decision, an honest cop will work, not everyone there has flinched.
      2. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 26 September 2016 07: 34
        +8
        USSR 1971
        In my opinion, the law enforcement and judicial systems are full of "agents of influence", embezzlers and simply opportunists, there are only a few honest ones. Yes, not 37 years old, but a pity, because this is the fifth column of Russia.

        The point is not the judicial system, but with regard to the authorities!
        If the authorities didn’t like it. It would be different!
        Themis no matter who, what and how much. Her eyes are blindfolded so as not to see. And no matter what and how much to put on the scales!
        1. sergeybulkin
          sergeybulkin 26 September 2016 08: 15
          +18
          The case is not the judiciary

          Not! Dear Sirs, comrades (unfortunately), it is precisely in our judicial system!
          And here is the symbol of OUR judicial system -

          Themis should be blindfolded, which symbolizes impartiality and with a sword, which symbolizes the inevitability of punishment. What about us? The eyes are open, which symbolizes - I'll see who to judge and whom I will not. And with a shield instead of a sword, which means some criminals can be protected.
          1. Ruswolf
            Ruswolf 26 September 2016 09: 20
            +12
            sergeybulkin
            Not! Dear Sirs, comrades (unfortunately), it is precisely in our judicial system!
            Themis should be blindfolded, which symbolizes impartiality and with a sword, which symbolizes the inevitability of punishment.

            And who untied her eyes? - Power!
            Who sets the rules for her? - Power!
            Whom does she cover with a shield? - Power!
            Who benefits from this Themis? ”“ The authorities!
      3. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 26 September 2016 09: 45
        +7
        Quote: USSR 1971
        Wake up, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, and carry out the reform of the MGB not only on paper, it’s time, then it will be too late.

        lol lol lol
        What kind of reform do you propose to carry out, as with the re-certification of police officers as police officers? Yes! The remnants of the honest ones after this Medvedev "certification" are gone. I know first-hand that he served in the Department of Economic Crimes (I emphasizeserved honestly).
      4. creak
        creak 26 September 2016 10: 00
        +5
        Quote: USSR 1971
        reform the MGB not only on paper


        It’s necessary as in an old joke - do not change the sign, and girls ..... I doubt that the graduates of the FSB Academy, who staged a parade of parades on the Gelendvagens, are able to actually fight corruption, it seems that they have completely different life values ​​.. And if only they had ... P-to Zakharchenko is a vivid example of this. ...
        And you are calling for reform of the non-existent MGB.... bully
        You have what year in the yard, USSR 1971 AU!
    3. Rozmyssel
      Rozmyssel 26 September 2016 07: 33
      +3
      Basman justice in general is a well-known thing, they do not hear the case and do not consider the facts, but only comply with the directives.
      1. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 26 September 2016 07: 47
        +3
        Quote: Thought
        but only comply with the directives.

        Surely the team from the top was to punish, but not really.
        I would also like to know what kind of dependent children are there? How old is he? or they attributed his grandchildren, then another question, and who does not have them?
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 26 September 2016 08: 02
          +5
          Quote: katalonec2014
          Surely the team from the top was to punish, but not really.
          I would also like to know what kind of dependent children are there? How old is he? or they attributed his grandchildren, then another question, and who does not have them?

          Vashcheta there were 8 more criminal cases against other employees, causing damage to the company in the amount of 9 billion rubles.
          Damage is not just how much they stole, but how much they made a shame (I clarify this).
          And, like kakbe, he had the potential for collaboration.
          1. katalonec2014
            katalonec2014 26 September 2016 08: 19
            +5
            You want to say that this is not the end, they say if they dig something else.
            Let us recall Khodorkovsky’s kind word (so that you would start to stutter there), he was released, he calmly dumped him in Europe, began to stir up the Russian authorities. Well, they opened a case on him about the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk ... and what? he’s already far away, and no one will betray him. So this one, probably already the hacienda somewhere.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 26 September 2016 08: 40
              +2
              Quote: katalonec2014
              Recall the kind word of Khodorkovsky (so that you start to stutter there), they released him, he calmly dumped him in Europe, and began to stir up trouble against the Russian authorities.

              Dumped, but without Yukos.
              So this, probably already hacienda somewhere there.

              He, with such a position, travel abroad most likely.
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 26 September 2016 08: 43
      +5
      Serdyuk for the stolen billions was released at all, so what? And this still needs to be supplemented with children, to be trained in London, to buy mansions for them, and even a poor one on a yacht. Or did he not share with anyone? laughing
    5. papas-57
      papas-57 26 September 2016 09: 08
      +3
      Just a man shared his money. The judges also have underage children and they also want milk with sweets.
      1. AUL
        AUL 26 September 2016 09: 38
        +1
        What gets away with thieves - they beat thieves for that!
        (Krylov I.A.)
        Long live the Basmanny court - the most humane court in the world! (C)
    6. g1v2
      g1v2 26 September 2016 13: 57
      +1
      Well, if, thanks to this deal, it is possible to block the schemes for withdrawing money at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex throughout the country, then to hell with it. And if only his specific way of withdrawing money is a maximum of cleanliness and a mitigation of the term for cooperation with the investigation. But it’s difficult to say something specifically without case materials. Maybe there are not enough materials there without his testimony for the court and they are taking him stupidly for a show-off - we all know, write clean. Xs. request
      Only one thing is clear. Without knowledge of the materials of the case, boiling shit on the Internet is not worth a damn. crying
    7. NordUral
      NordUral 26 September 2016 17: 48
      0
      Dreaming ....
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 26 September 2016 06: 55
    +6
    C'mon, what’s up there, your own boyfriend, let him sit a bit at home and think about it. And then suddenly a weak heart or something else.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 26 September 2016 07: 10
      +16
      06.55. Well yes! As soon as they come to them, they immediately become terminally ill! If you took a loan from a bank and do not repay, your property for repayment of debt is confiscated from you, and they can be planted. If you stole millions, there is no confiscation, the sentence is conditional or acquittal. Our law is just wonderful! wink
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 September 2016 08: 09
        +6
        We have a wonderful law
        or maybe a power that turns laws, how is it convenient?
  3. Nix1986
    Nix1986 26 September 2016 06: 57
    +16
    Until we have legislation at the level of China on embezzlement matters, this whole mess will continue. "There is no money, but you are holding on" and "you are satisfied with the work of the government," these are all answers to the question "how do we fight corruption and will something be improved in this area?"
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 07: 49
      +1
      Nix1986
      Until legislation on embezzlement affairs at the level of China works for us, then this whole mess will continue.

      With these fought everything and all my life. Beginning with Hammurabi 18 Century BC In Russia, too, they fought and quite brutally! Does not help!
      Have you ever seen that a pig standing at the trough does not stick its nose in there?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 September 2016 08: 07
        +5
        a pig standing at the trough will not stick his nose there
        The trouble is, pigs do everything from the trough!
        1. AUL
          AUL 26 September 2016 10: 01
          +4
          Our legal framework is such that it encourages such filthiness. Look at the "forks" of punishments under various articles - from the conditional wagging your finger to 10 years, at the choice of the judge. It would be for such pranks a mandatory confiscation and a fork from life to the tower - the number of lovers of bad lying would be sharply reduced!
  4. Danil Laryon
    Danil Laryon 26 September 2016 06: 59
    +7
    You steal wagons, nothing will happen to you by stealing the bread for a long time.
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 26 September 2016 07: 31
      +12
      Quote: Danil Larionov
      Voruesh ... steal ... here ...

      Danila, why don't you "dislike" a soft sign?
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 26 September 2016 08: 14
        0
        Quote: AID.S
        Quote: Danil Larionov
        Voruesh ... steal ... here ...

        Danila, why don't you "dislike" a soft sign?


        Because soft sign for wimps, well, the word lyubesh you also spelled incorrectly, you love through and - is it necessary? If this is not your sarcasm)))
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 26 September 2016 16: 37
          0
          Just a rhyme)))
    2. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 07: 51
      0
      Danil Laryon
      You steal wagons, nothing will happen to you by stealing the bread for a long time.

      Classic style "What the thieves get away with, they beat the thieves."
  5. loginovich
    loginovich 26 September 2016 07: 01
    +13
    This gentleness of the court is explained by the fact that Ostroverkh agreed to cooperate with the investigation and talked about the scheme for withdrawing funds from the budget of a strategically important enterprise for Russia, as well as the fact that minors are dependent on it. However, there is no information yet whether the mentioned 285 million rubles were returned to the company’s budget or not.

    Edinoros to United Russia will not peck out his eyes.
  6. Evil 55
    Evil 55 26 September 2016 07: 06
    +5
    And in China, they would smear their foreheads with brilliant green ...
  7. victorsh
    victorsh 26 September 2016 07: 07
    +24
    Why are you surprised? Vasilyeva is a poetess and singer. Sitting under house arrest and filming videos on nature. Taburetkin who knew ANYTHING about theft. The daughter of an Irkutsk official killed a woman in a car and was worried about a car. The list goes on. I don’t want to. !
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 26 September 2016 08: 00
      +8
      The other day, her daughter came out, she was in the colony for several tens of minutes, came for some kind of certificate, and she spent the whole term in the hospital, by the way the ward was LUX. This is the case in our country.
  8. Basil50
    Basil50 26 September 2016 07: 08
    +8
    This * example * * of justice * is indicative of the fact that it more than clearly showed its attitude to all * law enforcers * to common sense and, of course, to the law that appears * to be written * to protect parasites and strangers who steal from us on behalf of the state and find support and protection from * law enforcement *. It is not at all surprising that criminals enjoy protection, they also * have * money *, to which judges and prosecutors are so greedy with police officers. Therefore, laws are passed prohibiting protection and even more so weapons to citizens. The care of thieves, bandits, and corrupt officials on the part of * law enforcement agencies * is simply indecent, it is striking.
    1. Penzuck
      Penzuck 26 September 2016 07: 32
      +6
      It is clear to me, as a sane citizen of the Russian Federation:
      1. He stole clearly not one but a company.
      2. I handed over the whole gang-watering can with giblets, the FSB took them for the testicles.
      3. He opened the circuit. Our bodies have less work and it’s easier to identify them later.
      4. They steal on a large scale - units... Therefore, the incentive for them is not "punishment" (otherwise they will never return the money or the process of returning the money will be unjustifiably delayed), but "forgiveness". And this practice is once again for units.
      5. If you stole a bucket of potatoes - also a suspended sentence, and then a prison. Because a too mild sentence will give many a sense of impunity, it will become a habit.
      6. First, such people will bring an extra bolt home, then a bag of grain, and then they will pour fuel from the tractor.
      7. And then "many" come and dismantle the shop into bricks. Or equipment for conservation for scrap is handed over.

      And all of you "smear snot on the monitor": "you don't have enough weapons" ... IMHO you don't have enough of another ... (Belt) ....
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 26 September 2016 08: 25
        +2
        penzyuk
        You are just (m) an eccentric with claims. Wipe your snot and do not go to people.
        1. Penzuck
          Penzuck 26 September 2016 08: 50
          +2
          Quote: Vasily50
          penzyuk
          You are just (m) an eccentric with claims. Wipe your snot and do not go to people.

          Why are you so gentle? Can on business what do you think?
          You do not even have the entirety of the information. bully
          And already pour slop on our law enforcement agencies. negative
          And you accuse me of your problems? wassat crying
          http://izvestia.ru/news/634198 - Are you too lazy to look in here?
          I quote:
          Ostroverkh admitted his guilt and collaborated with the investigation, his case was examined in a special order, and therefore he became the first of the criminal group to receive a sentence. In the same criminal case, the former general director of the Khrunichev Center Vladimir Nesterov and the chief accountant of the company Mikhail Yakushin are accused. According to lawyers, they may receive harsher sentences.


          Read further: http://izvestia.ru/news/634198#ixzz4LL2T2zqM
      2. Winnie76
        Winnie76 26 September 2016 10: 41
        +2
        And what about the "daughter of the Irkutsk official"? Whom did she turn over to the FSB?
        1. Penzuck
          Penzuck 26 September 2016 13: 08
          +3
          Quote: Winnie76
          And what about the "daughter of the Irkutsk official"? Whom did she turn over to the FSB?

          You probably naively believe that suspended sentence и amnesty It is the same.
          I dare to assure you - this is far from the case. I'm not very up to date, however, both the "amnesty" and the "suspended sentence" are evidence that a person guilty.
          The subject of the dispute may be why she was amnestied? Why is she better than those who stole a piece of bread? I have no right to judge anyone. Although at some level, justice has failed.
          To do this, place everything in chronological order. Then many inconsistencies will come out by themselves.
          This cropped article is a provocation.
          In your comment too. You equate reckless homicide with fraud by a conspiracy. And for some reason you condemn the informer. Likely guided by convicts "concepts"?
  9. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH 26 September 2016 07: 09
    +4
    The whole trick is that even if they had planted it, it would have been regret that they had caught it, and not that it had been stolen.
    That's the trouble
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 26 September 2016 07: 10
    +12
    Stole 285 million - get a suspended sentence! Well, the majority voted for United Russia, which means that the punishment for the multi-million-dollar theft, such as a suspended sentence or dismissal from work, and people should like not shooting with confiscation of property. wink
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 07: 27
      +15
      Yak28
      Stole 285 million - get a suspended sentence! Well, the majority voted for United Russia, which means that the punishment for the multi-million dollar theft, such as a suspended sentence or dismissal from work, and people should not like shooting with confiscation of property

      Amid such news, it’s ridiculous (through tears) to listen to the statements of the authorities about the double standards of the EU and the USA!
  11. terminator978
    terminator978 26 September 2016 07: 12
    +15
    Because of this, the current government does not want to introduce the death penalty for corruption. It is necessary to sharply introduce the death penalty and immediately begin checking the material well-being of all judges, prosecutors and all officials of the state apparatus. Until that time, they will be given suspended sentences, and if they are imprisoned, then in "elite" prisons, where life is as comfortable as in freedom.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 September 2016 07: 16
      +6
      Quote: terminator978
      Because of this, the current government does not want to introduce the death penalty for corruption.

      We do not even have the death penalty for maniacs, but you want corruption. Humanism, damn it. recourse
    2. Yak28
      Yak28 26 September 2016 07: 20
      +7
      The power that exists in order to defend the interests of the rich will never introduce the death penalty for corruption, even a long term or confiscation of property without imprisonment, this is from the realm of fantasy
    3. Petr1
      Petr1 26 September 2016 07: 22
      +5
      It is necessary to sharply introduce the death penalty and immediately start checking the material well-being of all judges, prosecutors and all officials of the state apparatus.

      Yes this is my friend revolution !!!
  12. Petr1
    Petr1 26 September 2016 07: 13
    +8
    People take mortgages for life 1.5 m. They will pay 4.5 to retirement pay, but then they stole it and the whole family is well-to-do for life and no one needs to work anymore !!!! This is more like a scam and a state one !!! The villain was arrested, given conditionally, released ... They divided the money ....
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 26 September 2016 07: 21
    +6
    Will there be an apology for compensation for the moral damage caused to the "defendant"? Damn, what a rotten system of "justice" we have - to steal, steal, but do not forget to share, otherwise .... we will be fined !!!
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 26 September 2016 08: 55
      +6
      Our entire state system is geared towards corruption (read the Constitution), and the judicial system is only part of it. With a "light movement of the hand," land and mineral resources ceased to be popular and became "state", and the state became an equal competing subject in civil rights with any private owner (citizen or legal entity). And, if the courts are state, then guess from three times what they will make a decision in the event of a dispute between "equal" participants? laughing
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 26 September 2016 09: 10
        +3
        To amend the Constitution, you must have a constitutional majority in the Duma. And it already is! A year ago, while trying to amend the Bank of the Russian Federation to the Constitution, the EP faction together left the voting room, thereby blocking the adoption of an important decision for the country's sovereignty. Now you can not leave, and once again not twitch. No attempt will even be made to put the question to a vote without the consent of the majority.laughing
  14. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 26 September 2016 07: 21
    +6
    Against the background of such news, it is blasphemous to declare the double standards of the EU and the USA!
    Ostroverh agreed to cooperate with the investigation and talked about a scheme to divert funds from a strategic enterprise for Russia.

    And the investigators themselves could not install it?
    It’s rather strange to hear that our LAW ENFORCEMENT system ...... Collaborates with Kaznokrad and makes indulgences to him.
    It used to be called ROOFING!
  15. Million
    Million 26 September 2016 07: 22
    +9
    Under Putin, this has become a common practice, unfortunately
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 09: 27
      +5
      Million
      Under Putin, this has become a common practice, unfortunately

      You are not fair to Medvedev!
      Putin even held Vasiliev under house arrest! But Taburetkina interrogated.
      And this (DAM) did not notice anything at all .... Ha! Supreme Commander!
      By the way, he became Prime Minister - probably also for cooperation!
      Lawyer! In a word!
  16. Egoza
    Egoza 26 September 2016 07: 25
    +8
    Stole 285 lemons .... now if 500 lemons stole - a letter would be handed. am
  17. Fox
    Fox 26 September 2016 07: 26
    +4
    everything is simple, he is in EP.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 26 September 2016 07: 52
      +5
      Hi zema! hi Who voted for? I am for Kalashnikov. All the acquaintances are the same. But Bokk won, another savior of the plant from EP. But it was they who destroyed him (Artyakov, etc.). Yes, and Freemason Freemason (Rotary Club) climbed into the Duma again. Anger is not enough.am
    2. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 09: 29
      +1
      Fox
      everything is simple, he is in EP.

      And who rules EP?
      Who is worth the money! ...................
      1. Bath
        Bath 26 September 2016 12: 06
        +1
        it is necessary to introduce a new gradation stole the billion-order of Courage. stole 500 lyam well here and there will be enough medals for courage, but if Zakharov is here, victory must be given no less
        1. Ruswolf
          Ruswolf 27 September 2016 05: 06
          0
          Bath
          it is necessary to introduce a new gradation stole the billion-order of Courage. stole 500 lyam well here and there will be enough medals for courage, but if Zakharov is here, victory must be given no less

          You need to write this to Medvedev!
          He awarded Gorbachev at the 80 anniversary in the 2011 year with the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called!
          "I believe that this is an adequate assessment of the great work that you carried out as head of state," the president added.
          https://ria.ru/politics/20110302/341189157.html

          This order is awarded to outstanding statesmen and public figures and other citizens of the Russian Federation for exceptional services that contribute to the prosperity, greatness and glory of the Russian Federation.
          On July 1 on 1998, by order of the President of the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin, the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called was restored as the highest award of Russia.
  18. ImPerts
    ImPerts 26 September 2016 07: 37
    +12
    Remember the joke?
    "A client came to the famous lawyer.
    “I want to take away other people's money, and I would like to know what our justice is saying about this.”
    - If you take up to one hundred thousand, then it will be just a robbery.
    - And if I take more?
    - If you take up to one hundred million, it will be an excess of official authority.
    “What if I take it even more?”
    - Then it will be a dispute between two business entities !!! "
    Everything is scheduled for a long time.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 09: 33
      +2
      ImPerts
      Remember the joke?

      Excellent!
      I want to attach my share of humor:

      Judge: - Defendant, your last word
      Thief: - 15 millions!
      Judge: - The court leaves for the meeting.
      after the meeting
      Judge: - The defendant! Do you admit your guilt?
      Defendant: - No! ......
      Judge: - ..... Well ..... No .... And No Court!
      bully
  19. private person
    private person 26 September 2016 07: 37
    +11
    It was to protect such patriots that the nat was organized. guard. And then suddenly "A flame will kindle from a spark." And the people will get tired of enduring.
  20. YurokR
    YurokR 26 September 2016 07: 45
    +4
    Quote: Nix1986
    Until we have legislation at the level of China on embezzlement matters, this whole mess will continue. "There is no money, but you are holding on" and "you are satisfied with the work of the government," these are all answers to the question "how do we fight corruption and will something be improved in this area?"

    What a pity that there is no way to put 1000 minuses sad You hit the nail on the head. And most importantly, there is absolutely no hope for any changes in this direction crying
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 26 September 2016 08: 06
      +3
      YurokR
      And most importantly, there is absolutely no hope for any changes in this direction

      You're right! To all 100!
      Because laws are written and adopted by those who themselves are afraid to be held accountable!
      And also when you consider that the punishment is not only a punishment for committing a crime, but also as an instructive example for others .....
      For today, there is only one conclusion from the example: STEEP MORE! give less!
      Against this background, it is ridiculous to think that a simple citizen can steal several million in the workshop.
  21. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 26 September 2016 07: 47
    +5
    That's when they begin to hang such people, and in public, and give the family a loss of rights - then, I think, many will think about it. After all, obviously the man was not poor, s / n was not 20.
    1. Mikhail Polnikov
      Mikhail Polnikov 26 September 2016 08: 16
      0
      "salary was not 20" ... No, a little less ...
      1. Air defense SSH
        Air defense SSH 26 September 2016 09: 31
        0
        In dollars?!
  22. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 26 September 2016 07: 49
    +2
    It has long been known - the more stolen, the less received. Do not know how - do not steal.
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 26 September 2016 07: 51
    0
    it is not clear, but the money was returned by this honest man severely convicted?
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  25. wadulya
    wadulya 26 September 2016 07: 51
    +4
    In Russia, always so-the punishment is inversely proportional to the amount stolen.
  26. pas682010
    pas682010 26 September 2016 07: 53
    +7
    Putin said: "The elite of Russia is a hard worker, a peasant ..." And this "non-elite" stole something there. Now, if a representative of the "elite" (a locksmith, or a turner, or someone else ...) would steal a couple of bolts, then the judicial system would show itself in all its glory.
  27. My address
    My address 26 September 2016 07: 56
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: USSR 1971
    law enforcement and judicial systems

    Once the embezzlement has been identified, proven and brought to court, it means that law enforcement officers have worked normally, but the judicial decision is very big questions.
  28. guzik007
    guzik007 26 September 2016 07: 57
    +3
    It's just that in our country a double judicial system has long been formed. One - the law, others (his) - the concept .. As not so long ago, my boss tete-attet "enlightened" me. So, according to concepts, he "made a hapok", which is considered in THEIR environment a very worthy act, because it separates them shoblu from us suckers. Rises, so to speak, over the "rabble" for which they hold the rest of the people. -not caught, vaasche handsome! Gotcha, it doesn't matter, share it again, you get off with a fright and you won't fall out of the clip.
  29. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 September 2016 08: 00
    +1
    Some silly questions. stability, the best batch, why bother? So it was with EdR, so it will be. Glory to stability!
  30. AID.S
    AID.S 26 September 2016 08: 06
    0
    Rafik ne winy ..
  31. Mikhail Polnikov
    Mikhail Polnikov 26 September 2016 08: 14
    0
    The Basmanny court of the capital decided to send under house arrest the head of the MATI Tsiolkovsky department, the former deputy head of the Khrunichev center Alexander Ostroverkh.
    “The court granted the application of the IC of Russia to take a preventive measure in the form of house arrest against the accused Ostroverkh Alexander,” Anna Fadeeva, spokeswoman for the court, told Interfax.
    She also specified that Ostroverkh was charged with embezzlement on a particularly large scale and that he would remain under house arrest until September 16.
    Earlier, theft charges were brought against the former general director of the Khrunichev Center Vladimir Nesterov. According to the investigation, in 2007 Nesterov organized a criminal group, which attracted his deputy Alexander Ostroverkh, chief accountant of the production center Mikhail Yakushin, the head of ZAO Ecopravo Dmitry Dyakonov, as well as a number of people who are not yet identified. Investigators believe that all of them took part in the plan prepared by Nesterov, aimed at the theft of property assets of the enterprise.
    According to investigators, in the summer of 2007 "Ecopravo" concluded with the center to them. Khrunicheva represented by Ostroverkh agreement on the provision of audit and legal services. The company received from the institution 22 thousand euros per month, plus 5% of the savings due to consultations. At the same time, investigators believe that Dyakonov prepared and provided Ostroverkh acts of acceptance of services containing inaccurate data.
    In general, the leadership’s corruption cost the Khrunichev center 285 million rubles — according to investigators, this amount was transferred by the center to Ecopravo’s accounts. The investigation documents submitted to the court indicate that Dyakonov shared the cash in cash with Ostroverkh and Nesterov.
    Note that Yakushin and Dyakonov have also been placed under house arrest. But the investigation cannot yet solicit the election of Nesterov’s preventive measure, because due to health reasons he cannot be brought to court to participate in the meeting. Now Nesterov is undergoing treatment in a hospital and refuses to comment on the situation with the criminal case.
    In May 2015, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, speaking in the State Duma, said that 8 criminal cases had been opened against former employees of the Khrunichev Center. He also noted that in total corruption of employees of the center caused damage to the enterprise in the amount of more than 9 billion rubles.
    The Russian space industry has recently been under the scrutiny of regulatory authorities due to accidents and corruption scandals. So, in addition to the Khrunichev center, large-scale corruption was revealed during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region. In mid-March, hundreds of workers on Vostochny went on strike, and at the end of March, they went on a hunger strike demanding payment of wage arrears. The checks that began on the cosmodrome construction contractors revealed multimillion-dollar amounts owed to people and billions of embezzlement in budget funds. In total, 20 criminal cases were instituted, and the construction of the cosmodrome was taken under special control of the government.

    Material: First Anti-corruption Media http://corrypcii.net/blog/aleksandr_ostroverkh_za
    vedujushhij_kafedroj_mati_rastrata_v_osobo_krupno
    m_razmere_domashnij_arest / 2015-08-07-2114


    As a result, Ostroverkh is under conditional, and Yakushin, Nesterov and Dyakonov ???
    1. Penzuck
      Penzuck 26 September 2016 14: 20
      0
      As a result, Ostroverkh is under conditional, and Yakushin, Nesterov and Dyakonov ???

      This is the whole joke. They took the ordinary news. they pull the "necessary" out of it: - "Nada is a suspended sentence for the embezzler! Where is the justice !? etc. But in truth, the point in the case has not yet been put, but we have already drawn conclusions ... Wait - maybe you will find out what.
  32. jovanni
    jovanni 26 September 2016 08: 35
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "Ostroverh agreed to cooperate with the investigation and spoke about the scheme for withdrawing funds from the budget of an enterprise strategically important for Russia, as well as the fact that minors are dependent on him."

    Do you have children? He told me how he stole? Take a walk, honest man. No.

    Do you have children? Have 285 stolen millions? Share advice on how to do this, and go for a walk, honest, kind person. Steal further ...
  33. 2-0
    2-0 26 September 2016 08: 48
    +2
    What can I say ... 99,9% of those present envy the peasant with fierce envy, despite their indignant squealing at the forum. From this I understand, well done. Stuck loot, shared, and walk yourself on a conditional.
  34. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 26 September 2016 08: 55
    +4
    "" as well as the fact that minors are dependent on him ""



    Orphans of Alhena.
  35. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 September 2016 09: 01
    +2
    I read the comments and decided to insert a replica

    In your opinion, if the bureaucrat doesn’t cooperate with the investigation and doesn’t lay out a scheme for withdrawing funds from the budget of a strategically important enterprise for Russia, he will not hand over accomplices and curators, will there be a chance for the state to return these lemons? And how much more does this criminal circle steal? Fraer, having split, bought freedom, and the money will be returned at the end of the case, for it was not carried out in the boxes from the Xerox, but on any through the banks.
    1. gascon
      gascon 26 September 2016 09: 30
      +2
      Stupidity is complete! Why do we have law enforcement agencies, this whole system lives on our money and to prevent, disclose, punish - this is their direct task, they receive money for this. And you propose to free them from work - they say the thief repented, did all the work for them and everything is in oil !!!
  36. murriou
    murriou 26 September 2016 09: 14
    +1
    Quote: Ruswolf
    In Russia, too, they fought and quite brutally!

    Are you talking about tsarist Russia? Where, as in the current Russian Federation, embezzlement began from the very top, and all petty bastards were brutally punished? lol

    Quote: Ruswolf
    Does not help!

    How can I say something. There is no absolute eradication, and Allah is with him, but in China, when> 90% of embezzlers and corrupt officials were shot, they became very few, and budget losses from theft became imperceptible. And they are afraid to boast of such "achievements" there, as in the USSR under "bloody totalitarianism."

    And here, if the embezzler has grown to a certain level, it becomes unsinkable - and every official, from the smallest detail, in his place takes an example from them and seeks to imitate.
  37. frost2158
    frost2158 26 September 2016 09: 16
    0
    ! got ..... and again not Ivanov, Sidorov but ......
    where the country is rolling, some Dvorkovichi and Geysers, Reimers! some Russichi!)))
  38. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 26 September 2016 09: 19
    +2
    Another confirmation of the words "Antibiotic" in a conversation with Chelishchev: "In this country, you have to steal wagons ..."
  39. murriou
    murriou 26 September 2016 09: 21
    +4
    Quote: avg-mgn
    Fraer split, bought freedom

    It is necessary that the split thief buy not life, but LIFE.
    To return VMN for especially large thefts.
    To the price for fruitful cooperation with the investigation, the complete surrender of the stolen funds and all accomplices, was the halving of the term, and not release from it.

    Well, of course, it is necessary that the norm should not be expanse for criminals, but their extremely cruel extermination. With the complete confiscation of property, with the shaking of hidden away by relatives, with the seizure of ALL foreign property of criminals and the transfer of this property to a robbed state.

    Without this corruption cannot be stopped.
  40. Lust1g
    Lust1g 26 September 2016 09: 22
    +1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY7JbLB5Ef0
    By the way, how much do you think Zakharchenko faces?
  41. taseka
    taseka 26 September 2016 09: 25
    +1
    It’s just that under the pretext of equality in a large multinational country, citizens from the Caucasian and Asian fraternal republics (and they are sorry for the spirit of traders) were admitted to the academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Prosecutor's Office and Justice, and they trade as they can, the mentality is so simple! See the national composition of these academies in Moscow. I am not a nationalist, I just want to analyze this, I understand that among the Russian reptiles there are enough heroes among the highlanders - but all the same !!! More and more corruption ties are clearly visible! The FSB is holding on for now, and even then they have already begun to drive on the Gelitvagens! Sadness and sadness !!! But the conclusion is simple: you need to have a warm heart and a cold mind with clean hands as in the KGB of the USSR. I apologize for the honest employees of these structures - because our goal is to remove scum that steal and share!
  42. yuri p
    yuri p 26 September 2016 09: 26
    +4
    apparently a "member" of the United Russia, they have benefits in court decisions.
    1. Vodila
      Vodila 26 September 2016 09: 52
      +1
      In the top ten brother !!!
  43. vovan089
    vovan089 26 September 2016 09: 31
    +3
    And we hate poor Ukraine in terms of corruption. Forward Russian "justice" !!!
  44. Galleon
    Galleon 26 September 2016 09: 36
    +6
    My neighbor, an 18-year-old kid, with a friend climbed into the stall, threatened the seller and took a booze and cigarettes. Robbery in the group - 8 years. There is no one to fidget for parole - a poor large family, so he served from bell to bell. Came out complete convict.
    1. Sergey956
      Sergey956 27 September 2016 11: 26
      0
      If this guy had money, he would get off with a suspended sentence. Judges are people too and nothing human is alien to them. A living person is always partial.
  45. vnord
    vnord 26 September 2016 09: 44
    0
    Stole the chicken prison. I stole lam greenery
  46. Nix1986
    Nix1986 26 September 2016 09: 46
    +4
    Quote: Ruswolf
    Nix1986
    Until legislation on embezzlement affairs at the level of China works for us, then this whole mess will continue.

    With these fought everything and all my life. Beginning with Hammurabi 18 Century BC In Russia, too, they fought and quite brutally! Does not help!
    Have you ever seen that a pig standing at the trough does not stick its nose in there?

    And so do not punish, but just turn a blind eye to it ?! People always killed each other, stole, raped women, only cruelty and inevitability of punishment stand in the way from thoughts to deeds. And as we have with this and so everyone knows.
  47. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 26 September 2016 09: 46
    +3
    However, there is no information yet whether the mentioned 285 million rubles were returned to the company’s budget or not.

    Perhaps 145 million were returned to the budget of the Dorogomilovsky court.
  48. Vodila
    Vodila 26 September 2016 09: 50
    0
    What did you think gentlemen ?! Over the 20 years of the reign of one government, stable gangs have been created for squeezing the budget. And Ukraine, oh, how far is it from our thieves, although only a lazy official does not poke a finger at Ukrainian corruption.
    1. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 26 September 2016 13: 52
      0
      "Thief, shouts the loudest, stop thief!"
  49. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 26 September 2016 09: 57
    +2
    I don’t understand, but that everyone is surprised at such facts?
    5.02.2011, Moscow 17: 13: 44 The State Duma adopted a law aimed at further liberalization of the criminal law. The President of the Russian Federation earlier took the initiative to introduce the relevant amendments to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
    The law, in particular, excludes the lower limits of sanctions in the form of imprisonment under 68 corpus delicti. In this case, the upper limits remain unchanged. Such crimes include fraud (part 4 Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), illegal banking activities (Part 2 Art. 172 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), legalization of funds and property acquired by criminal means (Part 3 and part 4 Art. 174 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), price manipulation in the securities market (part 2 Art. 185.3 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), commercial bribery (part 4 Art. 204 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), etc.
    President Dmitry Medvedev signs law on liberalization of the Criminal Code. She touched almost 200 elements of crime, for which from now on it is not necessary to plant. Among them, the most common in places of detention are “theft” and “robbery”.
    68 Articles of the Criminal Code exclude the lower limits of sanctions in the form of imprisonment. Under the 11 corpus delicti, the penalty is prescribed as the main type of punishment, on the 12 convictions correctional labor is introduced, on the 118 penalties in the form of correctional labor and arrest are excluded.

    So why be indignant and surprised? Voted for "stability" and "right guys"? Receive, sign! laughing
  50. win
    win 26 September 2016 09: 59
    +4
    This is what I thought.
    Speakers, when talking about ISIS, necessarily add - banned in Russia.
    And when they talk about theft, they add nothing.
    Maybe this is the whole point?