"Admiral Kuznetsov" will go to the Mediterranean Sea with a standard air wing

Airborne cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" will go to the march to the shores of Syria with a full wing, reports RIA News message to the chief of the maritime aviation Major General Igor Kozhin.

“The whole range of airplanes and helicopters, which is envisaged by the decision of the Minister of Defense, will be on it. Therefore, what is defined will be based on it ”,

the general said, answering the question "whether the newest MiG-29K and Ka-52K helicopters will be deployed on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier".

According to him, “all planned activities on the cruiser are fulfilled,” and “everything will be released for service”.

Earlier, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that this fall, "Admiral Kuznetsov" will be part of the operational grouping of ships in the Mediterranean Sea.

Help Agency: “The deck length of the Admiral Kuznetsov TAKR is 306 m, the width is 75 m, the displacement of the ship is 60 thousand tons. Navigation range at a speed of 29 nodes is 3 thousand 850 miles, and at a speed of 14 nodes 8 thousand 417 miles (more than 15 thousand km). The crew - 1 960 people, including 518 officers and 210 midshipmen.

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[SRC P-15]

Here is our answer to the Americans on the proposed no-fly zone in Syria!

[Andrey K]

Quote: SRC P-15

Here is our answer to the Americans on the proposed no-fly zone in Syria!

The second factor of its release is the demonstration of the capabilities "in the case" of the MiG-29K fighters and Ka-52K helicopters, in the light of the supply of this equipment to Egypt (contract for 50 Ka-52K) and India (45 MiG-29K / KUB ordered).

[ancient]

Quote: Andrey K

is a demonstration of the capabilities "in business" of MiG-29K fighters and Ka-52K helicopters,

There are practically no questions about the MiG-29KR, but can you specify what it is that you have there Ka-52K will ... "demonstrate" ... when even before the end of the OCD on it as ... well, in general, not soon
Uryayayaya rushing?

[Andrey K]

Quote: ancient

... when even before the end of OCD, it’s like ... well, in general, it’s not soon
Uryayayaya rushing?

You and your "uryayaya" have beguiled me with someone ...
I don’t intend to give lectures on K-52K OKR. Take the trouble to look for information yourself.
Judging by your phrase on the video, a piece of paper flutters in the wind ... from volumes on OCD ...
Do you have "fsёpapalo" rushing?

[ancient]

Quote: Andrey K

Do you have "fsёpapalo" rushing?

I have it more or less everything is real and ... to the extent permitted

For example ... quite fresh ... land version of the experimental Ka-52 on the deck .... where do you see the Ka-52K? (early September ... of this year )



Such "movies" ... you can watch for yourself ..... it is quite improbable that in the distant future, yes ... but we seem to be, or rather you are talking ... "for now"?
You are exactly .. NOW going to ... "something there ... to demonstrate"?
I hope your text in the comment .. did not distort?

[Andrey K]

Quote: ancient

For example ... quite fresh ... land version of the experimental Ka-52 on the deck .... where do you see the Ka-52K? (early September ... of this year )

The video above is not overgrown with moss, July ...
Why are you uploading a photo "... overland option experienced Ka-52 ... "or a video of the Ka-52K" movie "? Or is it not a Ka-52K?

Quote: ancient

You are exactly .. NOW going to ... "something there ... to demonstrate"?
I hope your text in the comment .. did not distort?

I didn’t find my text in your comment, so there’s nothing to distort. And as for the demonstration, the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov with the Ka-52K stationed on it will demonstrate its capabilities.
Do you have something against? Or it does not fit your

... why is it that you have there Ka-52K will ... "demonstrate" ... when, even before the end of the OCD on it as ... well, in general, not soon ...

[ancient]

Quote: Andrey K

Quote: ancient

demonstrate the capabilities will be the aircraft carrier cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" with Ka-52K stationed on it
Do you have something against? .

Everything is clear ... you are trying to "jump", but .... it turns out very .. "clumsy".
Then I will repeat the question ... WHAT COMBAT POSSIBILITIES will the TAVKR "demonstrate" on the deck of the Ka-52K?
By the principle ..... "shob..bulo"?

I have nothing against ... tests must be carried out ... especially since there is no longer where to reproduce it for these purposes ... but ... you are already going to ... "DEMONSTRATE"

Not in your cinema it’s Ka-52K ... but ... in CINEMA !!!!, but in reality on the deck .. DRUGER !!! EXPERIMENTAL !!!!! ... because up to the KA-52K. Else ..... well, I already wrote about this!

[Andrey K]

Quote: ancient

Everything is clear ... you are trying to "jump", but .... it turns out very .. "clumsy".
Then I will repeat the question .. WHAT COMBAT POSSIBILITIES will "demonstrate" TAVKR "carrying" on the deck of "Ka-52K"?
By the principle ..... "shob..bulo"?

Are you talking to yourself?
Have I written somewhere about demonstrating the capabilities of TAVKR? What to demonstrate them, with him everything is clear

Quote: ancient

... but in reality on the deck .. DRUGCHOPER !!! EXPERIMENTAL !!!!! ... because up to the KA-52K. Else ..... well, I already wrote about this!

You found a photo and developed a whole "concept" around it ... But what about the video with the Ka-52K flying ... or you: "... trying to" jump ", but .... it turns out very .." clumsy "..."
Let's "look" at the capabilities of the TAVKR and aircraft deployed on it, upon its arrival to the shores of Syria.

[ancient]

Quote: Andrey K

Are you talking to yourself?
Have I written somewhere about demonstrating the capabilities of TAVKR? What to demonstrate them, with him everything is clear

Everything is clear with you ... you, I dare to assume, from students ... where the principle is popular ... "learned) or wrote), passed (or issued in a comment) and ... forgot

So please ... I quote your text in full - "And about the demonstration - demonstrate the capabilities will be the aircraft carrier cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" with Ka-52K placed on it "or didn't you write it ???

And by the way, .. where in your "kin" Ka-52K?

[Dart2027]

Actually, at the beginning it was:

Quote: Andrey K

The second factor in its release is the demonstration of the capabilities "in the case" of MiG-29K fighters and Ka-52K helicopters, in the light of the supply of this equipment to Egypt

Not tired of whining:
"The boss is all gone"?

[Andrey K]

Quote: ancient

Everything is clear with you ... you, I dare to assume, from students ... where the principle is popular ... "learned) or wrote), passed (or issued in a comment) and ... forgot

Your comment is on the verge of rudeness. I really was a student ... 30 years ago, you probably only learned to walk

Quote: ancient

So please ... I quote your text in full - "And about the demonstration - demonstrate the capabilities will be the aircraft carrier cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" with Ka-52K placed on it "or didn't you write it ???
And by the way, .. where in your "kin" Ka-52K?

Your colleagues have already explained everything to you, do not try to turn everything upside down. People here are big-eyed and your trolling is about nothing
PS Respect the native language, do not distort it. Word cinema not inclined - the jargon used by you, absolutely does not color you

[padded jacket]

Quote: ancient

For example ... quite fresh ... land version of the experimental Ka-52 on the deck .... where do you see the Ka-52K?

And why did you ancient decided that it was not KA-52K, or again want to show your extreme intelligence and awareness?
The bmpd block, for example, claims that it is KA-52K, and I, for example, believe him more than some strange user under the nickname ancient.
Flights of the Ka-52K combat helicopter from the deck of the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser. Severomorsk, 29.08.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX

Tests of the Ka-52K helicopter at the Admiral Kuznetsov
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2097432.html

[ancient]

Quote: quilted jacket

The bmpd block, for example, claims that it is KA-52K, and I, for example, believe him more than some strange user under the nickname ancient.

You can believe whoever you want or what you want ... "at least in a bright future."
But on "Kuznetsov" bmpd has an EXPERIMENTAL car and "Mormkoy" in it .. only "cut pylons" .. everything .. the rest is like a non-folding LNV and the "land filling" is from the Ka-52.
And the real Ka-52K (though the same is experimental, but ... already pre-production) it is here ... please and it is located in a completely different place

There was such a saying ... if halva is written ... then it ... will not become easier

Clickable ... so that you can find the differences from the "Ka-52K version you proposed"

[Inok10]

Quote: ancient

You can believe whoever you want or what you want ... "at least in a bright future."

... troll? ... on your first and last Quilted jacket ... one and the same board shot from 29.08.16/52/4 from different angles ... this is really the Ka-2015K from an experimental batch of XNUMX sides of XNUMX ... this your vanity, only as trolling can be set off ... no more .. .

But on "Kuznetsov" bmpd has an EXPERIMENTAL car and "Mormkoy" in it .. only "cut pylons" .. everything .. the rest is like a non-folding LNV and the "land filling" is from the Ka-52.

... ah, the stuffing, how was it considered, an eye x-ray? ... ... in the last photo, you laid out the board with the "OES-52" which is being tested and will be in the Egyptian order ...

There was such a saying ... if halva is written ... then it ... will not become easier

... well, well ... pull off the photo from the same place where the experienced Ka-52K appears and immediately call it "land green" ... no, I'm glad that the minuses were canceled ... let Petrushka spin now ... ... the cut-off pylons were in the experimental K-52 ... 4re ... in the serial ... 6t ... ... spin the little bird ...
P.S. ... here is the source of all the photos from 29.08.16/XNUMX/XNUMX on Kuznetsovo:

Flights of the Ka-52K combat helicopter from the deck of the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser. Severomorsk, 29.08.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX (c) Givchik11435 / forums.airbase.ru

...

[padded jacket]

Quote: ancient

You can believe whoever you want or what you want ... "at least in a bright future."

In any case, I do not believe you ancient since you are a rather dubious specialist, and simply put - no. That is the usual omnipotence with megalomania.
By the way, they didn’t howl, remember what a great SU-24 pilot and sniper you were, and passed off as paragraphs from an article by a completely different person about the SU-24 in Afghanistan?
Honestly, I have forgotten either you are an ancient or an equally large "specialist" under the nickname vaf

[Alexey-74]

I wonder how they will forbid us to fly? By the decision of the UN Security Council, we in Syria are on legal rights within the framework of international jurisdiction, while the United States and the rest are not ... well, Kuznetsov will really strengthen the group and contribute to the fight against ISIS

[GSH-18]

With the help of this rusty Soviet vessel you can only train our decks. As a combat unit, today it is not much of itself. 14 aircraft, of which only half are Su-33 at best, and a power reserve of 30 days, this is if the jamb from the time of the USSR GTD did not catch in the middle of the flight!

[severyanin]

Dear, before you write nonsense, you first figure out how the GTE is deciphered, what it is and what ships it is installed on, and what is installed on Kuznetsov

[Alex777]

Scrupulously noticed!
To some, that of a boiler-turbine, that of a gas-turbine - all one - mowing.
And it doesn’t matter that if money for the service is allocated, and the service is properly carried out, then all combat missions are carried out.

[Banishing liberoids]

"Kuzya" went to introduce the igil and nusra to his mother?

[PKK]

"Kuzya" will put things in order in Aleppo, it's time for the barmaley to go to Africa.

[ancient]

Quote: PKK

"Kuzya" will bring order to Aleppo

What is this ... "Makar" ... appearance ... or what?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PKK

Kuzya "will put things in order in Aleppo, it's time for the barmaley to go to Africa.

Ah, so this Kuzi wasn’t enough to put things in order there? Sluchaino, didn’t you write a year ago, when ours began to bomb, that in a month ISIS will be finished?

[donavi49]

Not. Barmaley have norms even in Damascus (and the Caliphate himself sits in Yarmouk - not moderate kittens) and in the south, where the Syrian MiG was shot down the day before yesterday.

In terms of combat capabilities, Kuzyu can be replaced by four Su-34 and Dvinnitsa with bombs. Just because, as closer, higher take-off weight, a higher density of flights.

The problem is different. VKS are actively gaining experience. Rotate the composition. They write complaints based on combat work.

But the Navy aviation can not do this. Break in a new MiG board, work out even on experienced Ka-52 all the issues of real operation (not necessarily combat) on a long journey, all this is simply necessary.

Kuzi’s campaign is needed to maintain the skills of pilots, to develop the necessary recommendations and requirements for new equipment. Politics and combat work is just a nice bonus. Again, + 4 Su-34 to Khmemim and Dvinnitsa with bombs will replace Kuzya completely, even with a slide if we take only the effect on the broads.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

needed to maintain the skills of pilots, to develop the necessary recommendations and requirements for new equipment.

Speak correctly. But somehow everything connected with him is like a fuss. They are constantly doing something there, but they cannot finish it at all. So after this short hike, he will again get up for a long time. Black hole in the budget all 25 years. There is no such thing that is done once, but with high quality. Some kind of melancholy.
Be that as it may - seven feet!

[PSih2097]

Quote: donavi49

Again, +4 Su-34 to Khmemim and Dvinnitsa with bombs will replace Kuzya completely, even with a slide if we take only the effect on the broads.

if this device were available, I would argue with you, and so "Kuznetsov" goes to combat training.
Sioux 33UB

Key performance characteristics:

The length of the aircraft is 21,2 m,
Wingspan - 15,9 m
Empty weight - 10,700 kg, fuel - 4,600 kg, maximum take-off 38,800 kg,
combat load - 8,000 kg,
The maximum speed at the ground is 1300 km / h, at an altitude of 2120 km / h,
Ceiling - 17,000 m
Flight range - 3200 km.
The armament of the aircraft: GS-30−1 air gun (150 shells). Bombs with caliber up to 500 kg and NAR units with a total weight of up to 8000 kg. Air-to-air guided missiles R-27, R-73. The Sokol (Zhuk-MSF) radar was equipped with a passive phased antenna array, which made it possible to integrate a wide range of guided air-to-ground and air-to-ship missiles.

[donavi49]

So Su-34 with Hmmima. They do not need an aircraft carrier. And even though tomorrow they can be deployed from bases in Russia - this is a political decision, well, backed up by military plans (to increase the daily number of attacks).

Kuzi will have MiG-29K / UB on the new board. Which can in bombs, both cast iron and adjustable.


And Su-33 is generally useless for broads, but they can patrol +/-.

[ancient]

Quote: PSih2097

Sioux 33UB

1. You have a photo of the Su-27KUB
2.In the empty weight, you "lost somewhere" tons so 10
3. And the fuel .. "not refilled" .. tons so 8 (internal tanks)
3. The flight range ... this is on ceilings and at high altitudes ... "more relevant" is a tactical range with a variable profile with air combat for 5 minutes and an attack on ground targets for 10 minutes - we get a radius of 1200 km.
4. "Falcon" (N-031) was only in the ROC, in fact on the 21st "cube" was "Zhuk-27"
5. They wanted to continue the theme of KUBIK ..... "they called it" Su-30K2 (with radar-N-011M) (there are even 3 corps of the living), but .... the theme "27IB" ... won

[ramzes1776]

Quote: PKK

"Kuzya" will put things in order in Aleppo, it's time for the barmaley to go to Africa.

Add an air cushion to him to him, so that he could reach Allepo and probably rustle among the broads with one of his views in the desert

[mitrich]

And how much is this nominally? And are all aircraft equipped with pilots? As if about nothing, infinol.

[shinobi]

In general, this is a secret. As well as the full range of weapons of the staff unit.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: mitrich

And how much is this nominally?

How many is known.

[Mountain shooter]

Running in military equipment in real combat conditions. For our sea pilots - an absolutely necessary experience. IMHO, it is precisely on the basis of the application of the air wing that a decision will be made on the construction of aircraft carriers in Russia. The fleet is a very EXPENSIVE pleasure. And the management must be 150% sure that these costs will be done not in vain.

[ancient]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Running in military equipment in real combat conditions

REAL combat conditions are when the enemy uses all the arsenal of weapons against you !!!!!
There is no REP, there is no SAM, there is no opposition from the enemy’s IA .... but WHAT IS REALITY?

What are you going to "test" on the Ka-52K in the land-based theater of operations? And .. "fleet" among the barmaleev seems to be like ..... "is not observed"

[Every]

Here there are surely those to whom everything is always wrong.
What are the combat conditions, in such weapons will be checked.
Or do you propose to unleash a full-blown war for the test?
Yes, and the tests themselves are not reduced to trivial battles against the enemy’s IA, there is also the interaction of various services of an aircraft-carrying cruiser, the detection of targets, the interaction of pilots and ship services, etc.
Exercises are certainly good, but they will not give such an experience as real military operations (yes, yes - real ones, even if they are). Do not forget about "partners" who do not behave very "well"

P.S. And where did you get the idea that the KA-52K was created to fight against enemy ships and is not intended for fighting on land?
It is simply adapted for the fleet, and it’s an attack helicopter, and in terms of its characteristics, it and the MI-28 are approximately equal, the KA-52 is in some ways even better.

[ancient]

Quote: Every

Here there are surely those to whom everything is always wrong.

But not everyone can "do KU"

I propose .. or rather, I do not propose anything, but simply analyze (to the best of my .. "abilities") actions ...... "! Superior leaders"!).

For testing..there are TEST STAGES! For everything else .. "interaction checks, etc." .. there are MILITARY TESTS.
Tavkr goes to military service ...... no further hope to continue?

About "land" is you "strong" ... this is how far "Kuznetsov" will have to approach the shore so that the Ka-52K can "fly ... ... to the middle of the Dnieper" Do not confuse UDC?
Or do you have blocks with C-9 ... this is our "everything ..... which has analogues in the world"

[Every]

But not everyone "do KU" wassat wassat
Clearly, protest for the sake of protest.

About "land" you are "strong" ... this is how far the "Kuznetsov" will have to approach the shore, so that the Ka-52K could "fly ...... to the middle of the Dnieper" wassat Do not confuse the UDC with?

No, I don’t confuse. This is a purely logical chain:
1. To combat submarines, there are time-tested KA-27s;
2. BUT the cruiser was equipped with the KA-52 shock, the question is why? Certainly not battles with enemy ships due to the absence of these same ships. Apparently there are tasks for them.

We, "mere mortals", are not aware of all the agreements between the "celestials" among themselves.
The agreement with the United States on Syria is an example.
Perhaps there is an agreement on the number of aircraft and helicopters that can be based on ground airfields.
And using an aircraft-carrying cruiser, you can circumvent restrictions and increase their number.

Or do you have blocks with C-9 ... this is our "everything ..... which has analogues in the world" wink

This is the wrong address for you. Do not ascribe "hurray-patriotism" to everyone who has a different opinion from yours. It (opinion) is mine, my own, and often differs from the position of the leaders of our country.

[ancient]

Quote: Every

Clearly, protest for the sake of protest.

And for the sake of TRUTH ... didn’t it occur to me?

Do you have any evidence that the TAVKR has already KIT-52K? And where are you ... wondering .. "typed"?
About the S-8 blocks it meant that this is the main armament on the Ka-52 .... what will be on the Ka-52K ... it's also ... "everything is ahead" and well, not in this campaign

[jovanni]

REAL combat conditions are when the enemy uses all the arsenal of weapons against you !!!!!

Who has the most aircraft carriers in the world? That's right, with mattresses. And when did they use them for the last time in the conditions of opposition about which you are talking here? That's it ... And yet no one there really doubts that their fighting efficiency does not increase when they rust in the home port! Therefore, a little bit of a chuckler anywhere in the world - oh, look there is already an American aircraft carrier nearby ...

[ancient]

Quote: Jovanni

And when did they use them for the last time in the conditions of opposition about which you are talking here?

Summer 1990 in Iraq At the same time, even on the aircraft carrier itself there are aircraft defined for reconnaissance, for conducting electronic warfare, and for suppressing the enemy’s RTS and air defense assets.
Please voice ... what do we have on this .. "account"

[hrych]

Quote: ancient

REAL combat conditions are when the enemy uses all the arsenal of weapons against you !!!!!

Complete nonsense. The same Americans did not use their aircraft carriers against a full-fledged enemy. It’s the weapon of colonial wars and to work out our aircraft carrier cruiser against baboons is the very thing, there it belongs. We also have a cruiser, where you need to look at the work of the radar, missile guidance system, etc. Now in that area there are only people who don’t fly. It is impossible to find a more suitable place to check the ship’s tracking systems, even if there is not a single take-off of an air wing and no missile launch from Kuzi. And in general, nefig discuss the Minister’s order, it means it must be and full speed ahead.

[ancient]

Quote: hrych

Complete nonsense. The same Americans did not use their aircraft carriers against a full-fledged enemy.

Well, if according to the theory of "urya-ratriotism", then yes ... with "caps" .. we will throw it ... and if Kuznetsov also comes with a tug, then in general ...
I wrote above ... the summer of 1990 ... the war in Iraq was used in full (how ... this is another question and how it all ended), but in terms of combat capabilities, "what" we are now sending to Mediterranean and. ... a thousandth part is not worth what mattress toppers had

What kind of missiles are you going to use from Kuznetsov?
Then you just write .. FULL NONSENSE.
Well, about the "extreme" you are right .. the order has been given, it is necessary to carry out ... for the first time .. what?

[hrych]

Quote: ancient

Well, if according to the theory of "urya-ratriotism", then yes ... with "caps" .. we will throw it ... and if Kuznetsov also comes with a tug, then in general ...

Wait for the cruiser to participate in the operation, see what kind of work he will do, and then you can grin.

Quote: ancient

that we are now sending to the Mediterranean and .... a thousandth is not worth what the mattresses had

Is this required?

Quote: ancient

What kind of missiles are you going to use from Kuznetsov?

So he is armed with the KR Granit, which can be used for ground targets, perhaps they decided to check them in business. Also, an air wing can launch some prototype air-to-ground missiles such as Bramos. I repeat, now there is a correction of the guidance and positioning systems of the army and navy in connection with the GLONASS, LIANA, MRIS systems. For one, look with locators behind the Israelis, Turks, French, Anglo-Saxons. And so the Supreme Commander-in-Chief explained for the tight, that we had already planned the exercises of the Armed Forces, and in connection with the existing conflict they were adjusted and carried out in an environment as close as possible to the combat (there is nowhere closer). Kuzya is no exception.

Quote: ancient

Then you just write .. FULL NONSENSE.

Is the kid offended?

[ancient]

Quote: hrych

Wait for the cruiser to participate in the operation, see what kind of work he will do, and then you can grin.

I agree ... "we'll see", but ... what the cruiser will do (what tasks to perform, I know )

Well, if you think that "if something happens," the aircraft carrier of "blacksmiths" will have enough of one name ... then ... actually, for this, the military has such concepts as AUG and AUS ... well, this is for the military, but for the "caps "..and so it will do

"Granite" ..on "Kuznetsov"? ... 15 minutes .. "patstalom" well, etc. etc.

And yes, the question is ... so what side does the "combat capabilities of the Ka-52K" relate to ... "LIANA" ... that the S-8 ... on "ships of the potential enemy"

[hrych]

Quote: ancient

"Granite" ..on "Kuznetsov"? ... 15 minutes .. "patstalom" well, etc. etc.

My friend and you are incompetent. The Internet is at hand, urgently check, otherwise laughter for no reason ... and hysteria for 15 minutes - the clinic is not very favorable ...
In the future, Granite will change to hypersonic Zircons, plus they said that it is planned to install Onyxes and the famous Caliber in the Kuze.
Liana - a system of marine space reconnaissance and target designation, Kuza needs as a ship in the far zone, clearly, this is not even discussed, and the turntables are probably part of the entire set of weapons and support complex, from satellite to latrine

[Dart2027]

Quote: ancient

WHAT IS REALITY

Tell the relatives of the deceased pilots about this. Then write that they will answer you.

[ancient]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Running in military equipment in real combat conditions. For our sea pilots - an absolutely necessary experience.

At the expense of .. "running" ... in fact, they plan to finish the tests only by 2018
KBPP Ever seen? Do you know how much to perform the exercises and flights to get to the use of weapons?
And then ... in December 2015 they formed, in the spring of 16 they began to fly in Yeisk, only in August 2016 the first landings on Kuznetsov and already .. "straight into battle"?

[FID]

I apologize “The whole range of aircraft and helicopters,[i] [/ i], what's this? And do not lean on patriotism! Yes, Kuznetsov is the only, say, an aircraft carrier, but what of this?

[Berber]

You are a pessimist buddy. The glass is half full. For the first time, the combat use of an aircraft carrier will be tested. There are many pluses. Practice - once, once again the USA’s nose has been wiped out - two, the number, quality and effectiveness of our group in Syria will increase — three.

[FID]

But, the number of planes will not increase ... Or not? The number of "naval, aircraft carrier" pilots will not increase. But, I may be wrong ...

[ancient]

Quote: BerBer

For the first time, the combat use of an aircraft carrier will be tested.

So yes ... that's just about "For the first time" .... and ... "wipe someone's nose" with this .... well, you are very ... "patriotic."
Wipe the nose of the state, which has SO MANY AUG and AUS ..... with one ... "aircraft carrier" .... yes ..... the consequences of elections affect

Quote: BerBer

the quantity, quality and effectiveness of our group in Syria-three will increase.

.

Actually, it would be more correct to express the NUMBER of the grouping ... about the effectiveness ... you are here in general ... you got very excited ... you won't argue that the COMBAT EFFICIENCY of the Su-25SM3 attack aircraft is lower than that of the ship's Mig -29KR ... so at the expense of what ... "increase" is
And for the "quality" .. it still needs to be ... "look through" ... what the "bullets will be" ... if KABs (won't it be a little expensive), and if "cast iron" .. then in general .. ..nonce

[igordok]

It was infa on the Runet that the Kuznetsov would have a reinforced air wing. This article is kind of a rebuttal.

[Every]

And what is the refutation? In the fact that the Ministry of Defense stopped playing the fool and equipped the wing with more suitable aircraft? SU aircraft are too heavy for Kuznetsov with a full supply of fuel and ammunition, they simply cannot take off without a catapult.

[ancient]

Quote: Every

SU aircraft are too heavy for Kuznetsov with a full supply of fuel and ammunition, they simply cannot take off without a catapult.

You are deeply mistaken .. from the 3rd position, with G asc. Max. testers flew, everything within the TTZ
Who is to blame for the fact that “Kuznetsov” cannot, for certain reasons, develop sufficient speed for takeoff with such weights?
Although the Su-33's glider allows such "experiments" to be performed, that's just why (if the engine gets up after the descent, then 100% will be a mouthful ... )

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: BerBer

once again wiped the US nose

And how? According to your logic, if the Americans bring another aircraft carrier, then they will wipe our nose, it turns out. Or your picture shows only on one side

Quote: BerBer

the quantity, quality and effectiveness of our group in Syria-three will increase.

Tolya? Serdyukov?

[avt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And how? According to your logic, if the Americans bring another aircraft carrier, then they will wipe our nose, it turns out.

And if two? Are both nostrils at the same time? And how many of them are they on the move now? Well, just like 10 pieces? So we also have enough for diapers. Uryakalki woke up early in the morning. Well, they went out to show the flag, and then the songs began just like the Arabs about "the mother of all victories", or "peremogi usikh zrad":

[Stas157]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And how? According to your logic, if the Americans bring another aircraft carrier, then they will wipe our nose, it turns out. Or your picture shows only on one side

Everything is fine with the picture! We are simply in different weight categories, if the Americans swim wherever they want, and consider it their prerogative, then ours are just starting.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Stas157

if the Americans already swim wherever they want, and consider it their prerogative, then ours are just starting.

Americans are swimming and we are walking.

[FID]

And we will "walk", not "swim" ... Actually, guano floats in the sewers!

[novel66]

is it armored?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: novel xnumx

is it armored?

Of course, armor is even on the flagpole

[Every]

Yes, that there, even the flag is armored.

[lelikas]

And even the screws!

[novel66]

and the cap of the commander?

[Ruswolf]

But what about! Sure!

[Every]

and the cap of the commander?

Firstly.

[cedar]

Quote: SSI

I apologize “The whole range of aircraft and helicopters,[i] [/ i], what's this? And do not lean on patriotism! Yes, Kuznetsov is the only, say, an aircraft carrier, but what of this?

Nothing follows from this, except that things are heading towards the culmination of our partnership with "partners".
To whom to fly, and to whom to fly away ...

[Rus2012]

Quote: cedar

we are heading towards the culmination of our partnership with "partners"
To whom to fly, and to whom to fly away ...

..type who will blink first?
So it’s known -
if there will be a Clintonsha - we will not fight "dezzki", quite possibly with "poplars" ...
Trump - omerico will go to the islands ...

[VladimS]

Quote: mitrich

And how much is this nominally? And are all aircraft equipped with pilots? As if about nothing, infinol.

Tell me everything ... Does it crack, nothing ??

[uskrabut]

Normal naval work - ships should go to sea, and not stand at the pier and rust around. And doubly for an aircraft carrier, it is also necessary to train the flight group there. The Syrian operation of the Aerospace Forces is an excellent opportunity for the Kuznetsov air wing to train in combat conditions.

[Niccola Mack]

If only the equipment did not let us down, in any case, he should not be alone there!
Someone must constantly support him in both air defense and anti-aircraft defense.
And it’s very, very bad that we don’t have an AWACS aircraft like the American deck-based E-2 Hawkeye.
Whatever one may say, distant detection in the sea by helicopter is a palliative.
And now they would hang an "umbrella" over western Syria on a constant watch - and everything is in full view.
And a special EW plane would not be in the way.

[VladimS]

Quote: ancient

What are you going to "test" on the Ka-52K in the land-based theater of operations? And .. "fleet" among the barmaleev seems to be like ..... "is not observed"

Or maybe the Americans, since the Second World War, are fighting around the world with an equal opponent? At whom and electronic warfare and aircraft carriers, etc. you listed. There is something to run in, how and whom.

[ancient]

Quote: VladimS

[There is something to run in, how and whom.

We are trying to "carry on the conversation" for "REAL COMBAT CONDITIONS" .. if you pay attention

[VladimS]

Do not try. You still can’t

[ancient]

Quote: VladimS

Do not try. You still can’t

So who doubts this, then Only now "a tub of cold water on the heads of the urya-patriots ... oh, how it does not interfere ... pour it out"

[72jora72]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Running in military equipment in real combat conditions. For our sea pilots - an absolutely necessary experience. IMHO, it is precisely on the basis of the application of the air wing that a decision will be made on the construction of aircraft carriers in Russia. The fleet is a very EXPENSIVE pleasure. And the management must be 150% sure that these costs will be done not in vain.

So far, this is the most reasonable and adequate koment ......

[ancient]

Quote: 72jora72

So far, this is the most reasonable and adequate koment ......

Well, yes ... what is easier ... climbed into the cockpit and ... "forward ... for orders" ... It's like on a bicycle ... turn the pedals ... everything is very ... "simple"

[Kibalchish]

God forbid that he get to Middle-earth under his own power ... It’s not clear why Kuzyu should be driven at all? It was possible to increase the number of our aircraft in Syria in a less expensive way.

[guzik007]

Wow, now "Kuzya" will show everyone its mother. And who is our mother? Yes, a barge with fuel oil in the fairway. Nothing, we'll finish, we'll scatter everyone, scare away ...

Vlip Vova with this Syria to the tonsils. Where's the money, Zin? as where? now we will pinch the working pennies, introduce new taxes, finally ditch the free medicine ... Who is dissatisfied there? they themselves "supported the current course and wise policy by their vote"

[VladimS]

Cardboard fool ...

[guzik007]

Cardboard fool ...
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When you are commenting, be so kind as to specify the addressee. If you turn to me, take the trouble to argue. Well, if it’s rude to the Great Helmsman ...

[noWAR]

Quote: guzik007

Vlip Vova with this Syria on the tonsils. Where is the money, Zin? as where?

[Every]

Vlip Vova with this Syria on the tonsils.

If this infection (ISIS) is not stopped now, then it will reach our southern borders (North Caucasus, Asia).
And then we all get stuck. It is clear that now such a threat is not particularly visible. And what will happen in 5-7 years?
Or, for you, the main thing is that it would be good now, and tomorrow, even though the grass does not grow?

[Stas157]

Quote: guzik007

Vlip Vova with this Syria to the tonsils. Where's the money, Zin? as where? now we will pinch the working pennies, introduce new taxes, finally ditch the free medicine ... Who is dissatisfied there? they themselves "supported the current course and wise policy by their vote"

Our people are patient and ready to shrink for global goals! Crimea, Donbass, Syria ... Only the president did not disappoint! But people like you are a minority! And usually liberals.

[guzik007]

Our people are patient and ready to shrink for global goals! Crimea, Donbass, Syria ... Only the president did not disappoint! But people like you are a minority! And usually liberals.
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And I believe you in the plan that our people are patient, especially after the recent elections. Oh ... but patient, well, just p ..... uh what that! Here infa passed through Dagestan, there, after the impudent stuffing, an unprecedented fight took place, the section was already closed. Well, it's wild from them, what can you take ... And we are patient ... and I am a liberal to the bone ... 62 years of release ... out of 25 years of work experience, not counting the army, I lived for 20 years in the hospital on duty in resuscitation. Much more liberal than some. And our people, on Vovino's happiness, are very patient ... if only there is no war, and then we will interrupt with potatoes. And for children we will collect expensive money for operations on the first channel ... from those that will remain after new fees and taxes, because Vova does not have enough for war games and for deputy salaries. And this will be endless, right up to the "brighter future", to which you and I will definitely not live. Do you wish your children such happiness, my friend?

[Andy]

low-respected diaper007, for your information İsil has views on our territory. therefore, it is better to beat them even there, in Syria ... on the occasion of the "bright future" they were allowed to consider all women as war booty, do you want your relatives to do it, or maybe they cut off your head personally? then you will whine to Vovin's address for sure that you did not save and again remember the "bright future" ... py.sy. no need to press that you have to do with medicine and show us your scars on the Kolchak fronts received ... you know how many people your nurse (and maybe you personally) killed in the country? how you get out of death by your negligence ... the oath to Hippocrates, alas, does not prevent you from living after that.

[Titsen]

Now the main thing is that our Falcons and Neptunes do not crap one's pants ...

[kirieeleyson]

1. I hope one does not work. Maybe he himself with a mustache, but it’s better not if there are ships for a decent escort.
2. Will take over a small area under control on the spot, and this is not enough pleasant for fans of entering "no-fly zones" and their allies in the windings.
3. Drug experience and intense workload in a combat situation will give + karma and good for upcoming contracts.
This is a plus. Of the minuses, if there are arguments, then they are doubtful.

[Every]

I hope one does not work. Maybe he himself with a mustache, but it’s better not if there are ships for a decent escort.

It is part of a group.
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160823/1475027185
.html

[ancient]

Quote: Every

It is part of a group.

Yeah .... this is .. "AUG" ..... Americans are in fear already .. "hid" in Norfolk

[Every]

Ancientwhat are you CITY? What AUG? The AUG should have an aircraft carrier, where is it? "Kuznetsov" is an AIRCRAFT CARRIER, its task is to provide fighter cover from the air, and its main weapon is not airplanes, but the "Granit" missile defense system
MIG-29K aircraft are based on it - these are light fighters, their task is to counter enemy aircraft, but not as bomb and missile strikes, MIG-29 is not a bomber and not an attack aircraft. Dryers could perform similar tasks, but they are not suitable for Kuznetsov.

P.S. in general, it is strange to prove something to a person who only today learned that there is an anti-ship missile system Granit on Kuznetsov.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Rus2012

So it’s known -
if there will be a Clintonsha - we will not fight "dezzki", quite possibly with "poplars" ...
Trump - omerico will go to the islands ...

Well, the will of American preziks always ended where the interests of their TNCs began. So do not make a new candidate for the (w) Nobel Peace Prize!

[Vlad5307]

Quote: guzik007

Vlip Vova with this Syria to the tonsils. Where's the money, Zin? as where? now we will pinch the working pennies, introduce new taxes, finally ditch the free medicine ... Who is dissatisfied there? they themselves "supported the current course and wise policy by their vote"

How would you not have stuck with your pessimism in the war with the IS already in Central Asia. Sometimes you need to look not only inside your refrigerator, but also a little further.

[guzik007]

How would you not have stuck with your pessimism in the war with the IS already in Central Asia.
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And what do you know about Middle Asia? Do you know who pressed the recent events in Kazakhstan? So I will tell you a secret. The board came from Russia with our OMON. And all this gang-brother, for several days leading the bazaar-station with the local security officials, (because all there are relatives, shmotnya), put in a short time. This is called "short shoulder" among truckers. So do not gossip for Sr. Asia. Enough strength. And on your arguments there is a proverb: do not walk wide, you will tear your pants. Take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking.
Nothing will save the asadushka — I must admit the obvious — a third of the people simply hate him.

[Dart2027]

Quote: guzik007

And there’s a proverb to your arguments: don’t tread wide, you’ll tear your pants. Take it on your own, so as not to fall when walking.

Then take the trouble not to speak for all the people, we will figure it out ourselves.

Quote: guzik007

Nothing will save the asadushka — I must admit the obvious — a third of the people simply hate him.

Especially those that support DAISH.

[jovanni]

The aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov will go on a hike to the shores of Syria with a full air wing ...

And the wings - they must be trained! And grow. And in Syria they grow well ...

[Vlad5307]

Quote: ancient

We are trying to "carry on the conversation" for "REAL COMBAT CONDITIONS" .. if you pay attention

But there is no real Syrian BV yet, on the outskirts this is impossible for obvious reasons.

[ancient]

Quote: Vlad5307

But there is no real Syrian BV yet, on the outskirts this is impossible for obvious reasons.

And the staff is ready for a REAL database?

[Dart2027]

Quote: ancient

And the staff is ready for a REAL database?

http://www.spb.kp.ru/daily/26509.7/3381155/

[UnclePasha]

And then it gets up for repair for 2 years. And we will be left without carrier-based aviation

[Every]

So what? Let it even stand at the pier? So in this case, there will also be no carrier-based aviation. Pilots need practice.

[UnclePasha]

I just cited the facts. The fact that after the campaign, he rises to overhaul. Need more aircraft carriers! NEED !!!!

[donavi49]

Not a fact.

Tasks in Syria are closed completely from ground bases. If the corridors are closed (Iran + Iraq), then the aircraft carrier will no longer help.

In relation to Syria, MTC is most likely needed - in order not to beat the BDK resource and urgently not to buy half-dead scrap metal that is intensively falling apart (2 transport of purchased ones has already been pulled in tow, now 2-3 transport is operating, the rest are being repaired - one flight and repaired for 2-3 of the month ) Well, and what Mistral wouldn’t hurt to carry a large amount of equipment, ammunition and transfer turntables on the deck (the same Mi-8) - this is cheaper than driving Ruslan.

[Every]

What will be repaired is a fact, moreover, he has problems with power supply, but it’s also not reasonable to keep him at the berth idle.
With the fact that no one argues. At one time they left the "sister ship" "Kuznetsov" to the Ukrainians, and they drove him to the Chinese. Yes, and our fellows, "Vikramaditya" from "Kirov" made the Indians, and not for themselves.
And so there would be two aircraft-carrying cruisers, while one is being repaired, the other is standing, then they are swapped, this is a common practice, incl. and for the usa.

[Vl1602ad]

“I urge all Americans to take active steps to prepare for any situation that may arise: Be prepared for emergency alerts, check insurance, document existing values, create a plan for emergency communications and evacuations, and have a fully equipped set of emergency, emergency supplies for survival in the event of a global catastrophe, ”the US President said.
The fact that Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, not so long ago clearly recommended that the country's citizens stock up with water and food, suggests that they are preparing the population for something very serious.
http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22887592
.html
More than 60 autonomous launchers "Topol", "Topol-M" and "Yars" are involved in the planned maneuvers of the Strategic Missile Forces, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports. The units "perform intensive maneuvering operations on combat patrol routes from the Tver to Irkutsk regions," the press service specified. In total, about 1700 units of large-sized equipment are involved in the exercise.
https://topwar.ru/101058-rvsn-provodyat-masshtabn
oe-uchenie-s-ekipazhami-podvizhnyh-kompleksov.htm
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The aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov will go on a hike to the coast of Syria with a full wing, RIA Novosti reports a message to the chief of naval aviation, Major General Igor Kozhin.
https://topwar.ru/101104-admiral-kuznecov-otpravi
tsya-v-sredizemnoe-more-so-shtatnym-aviakrylom.ht
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Something anxious in the soul becomes.

[Stas157]

Quote: Vl1602ad

More than 60 autonomous launchers "Topol", "Topol-M" and "Yars" are involved in planned maneuvers

Quote: Vl1602ad

Aircraft cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov sets off on a hike to the shores of Syria

Quote: Vl1602ad

Something anxious in the soul becomes.

And my soul from such news becomes calmer.
The better our troops are trained, the more unlikely the conflict is! The adversaries will think 10 times before.

[olhon]

Good luck. But it would be better to go through the Atlantic, like Columbus.

[Victorio]

Quote: guzik007

Our people are patient and ready to shrink for global goals! Crimea, Donbass, Syria ... Only the president did not disappoint! But people like you are a minority! And usually liberals.
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And I believe you in the plan that our people are patient, especially after the recent elections. Oh ... but patient, well, just p ..... uh what that! Here infa passed through Dagestan, there, after the impudent stuffing, an unprecedented fight took place, the section was already closed. Well, it's wild from them, what can you take ... And we are patient ... and I am a liberal to the bone ... 62 years of release ... out of 25 years of work experience, not counting the army, I lived for 20 years in the hospital on duty in resuscitation. Much more liberal than some. And our people, on Vovino's happiness, are very patient ... if only there is no war, and then we will interrupt with potatoes. And for children we will collect expensive money for operations on the first channel ... from those that will remain after new fees and taxes, because Vova does not have enough for war games and for deputy salaries. And this will be endless, right up to the "brighter future", to which you and I will definitely not live. Do you wish your children such happiness, my friend?

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not there and not that money for hospitals, schools and salaries and pensions you are looking for

[Flyer_64]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

For our sea pilots - an absolutely necessary experience.

In the year 8, these pilots chukhat back to their north, and we walked without a roof on the bottoms.

[Former battalion commander]

Oh, this "aircraft carrier" would not have screwed up ... Its REAL technical condition is known ...

[Prince of Pensions]

You need a length of 350, all air defense systems and all planes and helicopters drills fighter attack aircraft bombers that you can. A couple of boats east 400 to the south and north.