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Media: several employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations died in Moscow while extinguishing a fire in a warehouse of plastic products

Seven (according to other data - eight) firefighters fell under the collapse of the roof of a burning plastic warehouse in the East of Moscow. According to preliminary data, they all died. Reports about it TASS with reference to a source in law enforcement.

According to some reports, the bodies of the 2 dead were found at the scene. The bodies of the rest have not yet been found.

“The building is burning, strong smoke and suffocating smoke from the plastic,” said the source.

“The building of a single-storey warehouse where plastic products are burning has dimensions 80 meters by 200 meters. The fire has developed across all areas of the building order on 1600 square. meters 30 fire and rescue crews were involved in extinguishing the fire, ”he said.

In the MES information about the death is not confirmed. According to representatives of the ministry, seven employees were missing, there is no connection with them.

It is known that at the time of the fire there were no people in the warehouse.

One of the versions of law enforcement is arson.
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  1. igor67
    igor67 23 September 2016 08: 34
    Condolences to the family, what kind of nuvezuchestnost in M ​​H C? Three pilots, now firemen.
    1. avt
      avt 23 September 2016 09: 09
      Quote: igor67
      what nuvezuchestnost in MCH With? Three pilots, now firemen.

      FIRE, firefighters - fire victims, but still yes - a day and especially an evening for the Ministry of Emergencies it turned out to be still quite tragic.
      Quote: sub307
      Ministry of Emergency Situations do not confirm the death information.

      But 8 bodies in the ashes are discovered ...... request So at least they wrote in the media, and the firefighters, or who else - did not specify.
      1. Drzed
        Drzed 23 September 2016 16: 17
        EMERCOM of Russia employees found the bodies of eight firefighters at the site of a burned warehouse with plastic products on Amurskaya Street in Moscow. On Friday, September 23, TASS was informed in the press service of the department.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 23 September 2016 23: 20
          I'm terrified! I'm just terrified !!! So tragically die! Our suns are Men! Young, beautiful, strong, courageous, heroic - FAVORITE!
          My condolences to relatives and friends, friends and colleagues.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 September 2016 09: 27
      Already reported that they found the bodies of all eight firefighters. It's a pity the guys, but someone from their superiors must answer for their death!
    3. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth 23 September 2016 10: 06
      Well, for nuvezutochnost in M ​​H C

      This is not bad luck, it is a systematic sequence of deterioration of the situation in the department. Ever since Shoigu headed the Armed Forces, the Ministry of Emergencies clearly shows a tendency to decline! Financing has worsened very much, the material base and equipment are aging. Against this background, formalism flourishes, paper reporting that everything is wonderful, window dressing. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I’ve been working in the Ministry of Emergencies for the seventh year. I have the opportunity to observe the process directly.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 23 September 2016 12: 19
        they write / say in the media that they landed on the roof, and the metal structures / roof did not withstand the temperature.
        why in such cases thermal imagers are not used (IMHO in this case, I think he gave a more or less objective picture at a temperature of 100,200,300 ... C ° - hardly anyone would land)?
        or are they only at exhibitions and for show?
        my sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 23 September 2016 10: 29
      Quote: igor67
      Condolences to the family, what kind of nuvezuchestnost in M ​​H C? Three pilots, now firefighters

      First: not firefighters, but Firefighters; secondly, this should not be about bad luck, but about CRIMINAL VIOLATION of the requirements of BUPO! It is interesting to know which RTP sent them to death ?!
  2. PKK
    PKK 23 September 2016 08: 34
    Condolences to relatives, workmates!
    So many victims, obviously, the human factor could not have done, the controller clearly forgot about the time the brigade returned, this happened in Rostov in the 70s, five firefighters died.
  3. PKK
    PKK 23 September 2016 08: 35
    We do not put pluses.
  4. Smoked
    Smoked 23 September 2016 08: 38
    Something recently at the Ministry of Emergency Situations, losses have increased significantly.
  5. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 23 September 2016 08: 40
    "found eight bodies" - rest in peace! As always, innocent people pay for someone's delusion with their lives.
    1. venaya
      venaya 23 September 2016 09: 03
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      ... As always - innocent people pay for someone sacking their lives

      "One of the versions of law enforcement officers - deliberate arson"-
      - It looks more like business, just business and nothing else! Competitive struggle - it is: "All means are good." How is it according to Marx - "There is no crime that the capitalist would not commit for the sake of 300% profit. "And nowadays it often turns out that the percentage of profit significantly exceeds the mark of 300%, hence all sorts of surprises are possible, similar to those given in the article.
    2. FID
      FID 23 September 2016 09: 06
      Sorry, "rescuers" pay with their lives! They are never GUILTY!
  6. sub307
    sub307 23 September 2016 08: 49
    "The Ministry of Emergency Situations does not confirm the information about the death. According to representatives of the ministry, seven employees are missing, there is no connection with them."
    Already proves ... Well, the firefighters "have their own war" every "god" day. They sometimes have to pay with their lives for someone's "sins". Rest in peace....
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 September 2016 08: 50
    Eh. Well, how so. Some sort of nasty warehouse, and such sacrifices. Dangerous job, needless to say. Land rest in peace, and condolences to the family.
    1. dumpy15
      dumpy15 23 September 2016 10: 23
      Warehouse of ritual objects: wreaths, pots, etc.
      Sorry for the men.
  8. An64
    An64 23 September 2016 08: 58
    Condolences to family and friends. Rest in peace...
    But it doesn’t fit - these are professionals, not random people, how did it happen that 8 people died? Who led them, who sent them to this hell, who did not assess the risks, the risks to life?
    1. Bourgeois
      Bourgeois 23 September 2016 09: 12
      And as always, there will be no perpetrators. Although, with the threat of collapse, they should have been recalled from the roof. Puchkov’s everything is in a bundle. Guys to tears sorry. Eight people ... the whole guard ...
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 23 September 2016 09: 21
    Eight ... Pity the guys ... Eternal Memory to them .... Still, human lives are more expensive than the material values ​​that they saved ... And not only I have the impression that without Shoigu the Ministry of Emergencies is slowly starting to degrade?
  10. guzik007
    guzik007 23 September 2016 09: 27
    The tragedy, as a natural result of the defeat of the fire service, is my opinion, based on the stories of the brother-in-law who worked in the HR for 25 years. After the transfer of the HR to the Shoigu department, a formal defeat began with the dismissal of professionals and a set of former warriors who did not understand these issues at all.
    Who sent people to the epicenter of fire? The handwriting is felt. Ordered-execute! Instead of pouring inside a room without people, go ahead to embrasures. eight men died! Only the guilty ones, as always, will not be found. For .... all are verbally diarrhea about heroism and blah blah blah and everything will calm down. And the scoundrels who made the decision will remain in their posts.
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 23 September 2016 09: 30
      I heard the same songs from the military, who are in clerical and other business positions.
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 23 September 2016 10: 07
      Quote: guzik007
      Tragedy as a natural result of the defeat of the fire service

      Not only firefighters perish, before that helicopter pilots died, and before them the chief of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Emergencies in the Primorsky Territory died. You think they don’t ask Puchkov for this, as they ask, it’s not for nothing that they openly talk about the reorganization of the Ministry of Emergencies.
    3. Siberian
      Siberian 23 September 2016 12: 19
      You ask your brother-in-law how many "warriors" as you say, he leaves for fires as part of the guards ... The soldiers in the Russian Emergencies Ministry are former civil defense officers and, as a rule, they are in Glavka, in positions that deal with civil defense and emergency situations , and in HR in positions: employees of the internal service (graduates of educational institutions of the State Border Service) and civilians; and by the way, they (the military) understand pretty well about firefighting, so don't be raving, and even more so, no one will appoint a military RTP hi
  11. was-witek
    was-witek 23 September 2016 10: 15
    All this plastic is not worth the life of 8 lifeguards. Moreover, people were no longer in stock. This is a system error in the preparation of rescuers by the Ministry of Emergencies.
  12. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 23 September 2016 10: 30
    There is reason to think !!! The head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, three helicopter pilots, Moscow-8 firefighters died in Primorye, the problem is that the situations are not critical, slack.
  13. UnclePasha
    UnclePasha 23 September 2016 10: 39
    The feat of some is a consequence of the sloppiness of others ... My condolences. Black Week at the Ministry of Emergencies (((
  14. Mikado
    Mikado 23 September 2016 10: 43
    condolences to the family .. Let the state adequately take care of their families ..
  15. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 September 2016 10: 49
    Quote: Thirteenth
    This is not bad luck, it is a systematic sequence of deterioration of the situation in the department. Since Shoigu headed the Armed Forces, the Ministry of Emergencies clearly shows a tendency to decline!

    I absolutely agree with you. Since Puchkov sat in the minister’s chair, the situation in the Ministry of Emergencies with the use of forces and means has become a shame.
    When two years ago, the prime minister demanded that Puchkov put out the fires in Siberia in three days, he live silently stretched out, because both knew the forecast - heavy rains and. I have no doubt that some people already drilled holes, and then embarrassment - the front went to the side ..., and ... they forgot about the fire. Even worse - the recent incident with the death of the side of the IL-76, the same situation - Medvedev - Puchkov - a disaster ..., the planes stop the fire fighting. At the current moment - what the hell firemen were sent to hell, (in this case, to the roof), if there is no direct information that there are people in the warehouse! It burns - we cut off the fire, no, why do they send fighters to install a water curtain on the roof of the warehouse, which will somehow collapse? The business is insured, the damage is compensated! The result is sad, people died ...
    "Russia 24" reported that the extinguishing of the fire was personally supervised by the Deputy. The minister was not named (a plastic warehouse, what is a strategic object?). All this is sad, sincerely sorry for the firefighters who fell victim to the stupid orders of their leaders, because I have no doubt that the owner of the business was on fire (with all the consequences). Business pancake !!!
    The death of 8 firefighters confirmed ....
    Land to the children rest in peace ...
    But ... Who is responsible for stupidity and negligence ???
  16. win
    win 23 September 2016 10: 53
    Quote: was-witek
    This is a system error in the preparation of rescuers by the Ministry of Emergencies.

    This is a diversion, laid down in the days of EBN. Then funding was sharply reduced, firefighters were reduced and the structure of the Ministry of Emergencies was poached ...
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 23 September 2016 12: 05
      Dear, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation only created under the EBN, and firefighters (not firefighters), only in 2002 became part of the Russian Emergencies Ministry
      1. win
        win 23 September 2016 16: 22
        This error was pointed out. So in otherwise agree! ..
  17. Deniosf
    Deniosf 23 September 2016 11: 31
    And the head of the Ministry of Emergencies did not come? Really he does not care that his subordinates died ....
  18. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 23 September 2016 16: 33
    And for what .... colonel, major, two captains and three ensigns climbed onto the roof? Ordinary fighters are already gone? Or are they busy with something else?
    1. TanakaKenshin
      TanakaKenshin 23 September 2016 19: 05
      "Only old men go to battle" ..?
      The work of firefighters in the vicinity of explosive equipment is always associated with increased risk and complexity. As the firefighter-psychologist, who taught us the discipline "Psychological preparation for emergencies," said, some of them come to their senses after such work for a month or two, even if everything worked out.
      Well, yes. The fire area at the peak is in the region of 4000 square meters. For 160 employees.