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Several portioned publications by the Fancy Bear international hacker team about “sick” athletes who were allowed by the World Anti-Doping Association to revel in doping cocktails and ingest frank drugs, as it seemed, could not break through the wall of hypocrisy built against Russia. Pessimism is quite understandable: the West lives in its own little world, in which there is no place for objective assessments of what is happening, and where any lie is exposed as “the defense of freedom and democracy”. They removed the Russian athletes with disabilities, at the same time having produced dozens of steroid “unwell” Olympic “champions” - and this, it turns out, is also the greatest democratic victory.

However, pessimism, as they say, aside. The work of Fancy Bear on exposing a very differentiated approach to estimating the use of prohibited drugs by one or another WADA athlete did not go unnoticed. The British edition of The Guardian this week came out with a material stating that officials of the World Anti-Doping Association "are afraid of certain decisions by the International Olympic Committee."



The point is that several months have passed since Mr. McLaren announced that “there is evidence of the existence of a whole system of support for the use of doping in the Russian Federation at the state level”, but the IOC is not from McLaren or anyone else from WADA so far, and did not wait for the provision of at least some real facts. All that is “provided” is known statements about allegedly found scratches on vessels for collecting tests, as well as the McLaren's saga of “holes in the wall and FSB officers” who through these holes mysteriously took the athletes' doping urine, replacing it "Pure product".

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The IOC, as we know, asked: friends, well, at least you would call the names of those whose urine was “replaced by a hole in the wall”. To this, Mr. Maclaren, making a conspiracy grimace, answered: not the time, they say ... we need more work, and indeed it is all “top secret”. Like, purely gentlemanly, you must take our word for it, for gentlemen never-never lie ...

The International Olympic Committee is not something that would tremble Russian athletes with great trepidation, but at least demonstrate a clear desire to get "evidence", if any, from the WADA commission. After all, in fact, a third of the Russian national team was removed from the Games in Rio, and the overwhelming majority of the excluded athletes filed claims for damages. The total amount of lawsuits, according to some data, passes for 0,5 billion dollars, and the IOC (what kind of trepidation and reverence is before Russian sports ...) understands that if the courts decide in favor of the athletes who were dismissed without guilt, they will have to shell out Maclaren and Co. will wash their hands ...

So ... If, prior to the Fancy Bear publications, the IOC declared a desire to get more detailed information from WADA, then after the publications, it was no longer desires, but requirements. A member of the IOC (he is the chairman of the Argentine National Olympic Committee), Gerardo Werthein, made a statement that frightened WADA officials. According to Werthein, WADA leads the IOC by the nose, trying to shift responsibility from itself to anyone. The head of the NOC of Argentina accused WADA of discrediting the sport and possible involvement in corruption schemes.
Gerardo Werthein on the work of WADA:

Someone will explain why WADA, spending impressive funds on taking about 300 thousands of doping samples per year, has so far been found only by a few athletes who broke the rules, although international federations, law enforcement agencies and the media are talking about "mass violations." Either name all the names or disprove the sources.


Representatives of the sports elites of a number of countries, after information that WADA "took into account" certificates for allowing doping to be taken by individual athletes without any transparency, suspected those responsible for keeping records of official permissions in receiving "kickbacks." As you know, most of the “sick” athletes whom WADA allowed, forgive me, to eat steroids and drugs by handfuls, eventually became the winners and prize-winners of the Olympics in Rio de Jeanneros. Winners and prize-winners with the subsequent receipt of bonuses not only from the IOC and international sports federations, but also from national governments. In a number of cases it was a question of awarding over 1 million dollars for a medal.

Against this background, the head of the IOC, Thomas Bach, said that the chairman of the World Anti-Doping Association, Craig Reedy, "could not cope with the duties assigned to him." True, Bach did not mention the possible corruption schemes, but called the main puncture to Reedy and the whole WADA that the organization could not put a barrier to the use of doping. And the evidence for this, apparently, is including “doctor's certificates”, which WADA accepted as an indulgence for an athlete to use prohibited drugs. As is known, from stories Roman Catholic Church, indulgence could be bought for good money. Apparently, WADA decided not to forget the “absolution” tradition.

So what are the officials of the World Anti-Doping Association now afraid of? They are afraid that WADA will simply cease to exist. The aforementioned Gerardo Werthein took the initiative, on the basis of which instead of WADA a structure will be created that will deal not only with the problems of doping, but also with issues of corruption in sports. And, according to the British press, Mr. Reedy and other representatives of the current top of WADA will have no place in this structure.

The initiative for the probable dissolution of WADA, for obvious reasons, was greeted with hostility in the association itself. Podtyvayvayut and the former. So, the former head of anti-doping (or still doping) cheats, Richard Pound, commented on the statements of the representatives of the International Olympic Committee:

This is a diversion against WADA. Diversion against all sports.


Strange in this situation, one thing - the silence of Russian officials from the sport. After all, in fact, WADA is found guilty of consuming the use of illicit drugs by dozens of American, British, German and other athletes. Moreover, WADA is actually found guilty of lying about Russian Olympians and Paralympians, in respect of whom not a single weighty evidence of doping has been presented yet with the complete trampling of the presumption of innocence.

All these facts are enough to simply destroy the liars and corrupt officials of WADA with a whole series of claims and the introduction of personal sanctions. What a strange "Olympic" calm of the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation? Or is there “its own atmosphere”? ..
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  1. +10
    23 September 2016 06: 50
    The total amount of claims, according to some reports, exceeds $ 0,5 billion, and the IOC (what awe and reverence for Russian sports ...) understands that in the event of a court decision in favor of athletes suspended without fault, he will have to shell out for Maclaren and Co. will wash their hands ...
    No need to spare them. And then we are too kind-hearted, but it comes to us sideways. If necessary, the IOC will recover all losses with WADA and will not blink an eye. So, let's solve our problems first, namely, we will punish financially those who performed such miracles
    1. +3
      23 September 2016 07: 02
      What kind of strange "Olympic" calm of the RF Ministry of Sports? Or is there "its own atmosphere" ?.
      ... all our ministries have "their own atmosphere" (MO-exception) and calmness ... And WADA is a purely American brainchild, so only they themselves can destroy it when necessary (if necessary), and they don't care about the IOC and everyone ...
      1. +16
        23 September 2016 08: 31
        One thing is strange in this situation - the silence of Russian officials from sports.

        The author naively believes that "Russian officials from sports" are silent on a whim? Completeness, they just did not have the command to enter into conflict ahead of time. It's not yet time to say our Russian "fi" Let the hackers first lay out everything they have on WADA - thus adding trump cards to our hands. A demoralized enemy is easier to defeat, and no matter how someone says that all the attempts of hackers are in vain, we see that thanks to their efforts, WADA has the ground burning underfoot. Therefore, let's wait until the panic in this organization reaches its climax and strike so that there are no memories of the pro-American puppet.
        1. +13
          23 September 2016 09: 25
          СРЦ П-15 Today, 08:31 ↑ New
          The author naively believes that "Russian officials from sports" are silent on a whim?

          Alexander, absolutely agree! Haste is needed only when hunting for fleas, but there are no fleas here, spiders. And these spiders will very soon begin to eat each other. The bottom line is that one way or another, and lawsuits of half a billion are very serious. And no matter how biased the international courts, they can’t refuse, in the absence of evidence of the guilt of our athletes, in claims against the IOC. And the IOC clearly does not like this prospect. The most painful place in the West is their wallet, so they decided to hit him. And the silence of ours, too, is not casual, I think they are really waiting for the right moment. And the fact that hackers spread information in parts, dosed, and not all at once, most likely indicates that the most delicious is in store for the last. And something tells me that this tastiest thing will be akin to an atomic bomb explosion ... In general, we'll see!
          1. 0
            23 September 2016 09: 58
            Indeed, in fact, WADA has been found guilty of sponsoring the use of illegal drugs by dozens of American, British, German and other athletes.


            You are biased. For a long time there has been a practice of allowing the administration of certain drugs for medical reasons by a doctor in the presence of a disease. Bjørndalen is an asmatic and uses drugs for the lungs and bronchi, which help him breathe better. He has been diagnosed since childhood. Perhaps this helps him in sports, but without it he can simply die. It's the same with many other athletes. The same Simone Biles, whom our media "analyzed" so much, has been taking medicine since school. They were assigned to her for a medical diagnosis long before she AT ALL STARTED TO PERFORM AS A PROFESSIONAL GYMNAST. I do not exclude that there are cases when diagnoses are invented, but this is not the problem. Why can't we find our athletes like Simone Biles or the Williams sisters who would also be sick with something ??? We don't have such. So the problem is not that athletes are taking certain medications for medical reasons, but that we cannot raise such athletes in our country.
            1. +15
              23 September 2016 10: 15
              Orel Today, 09:58 ↑
              You are biased. A long time ago, there is a practice of permitting the use of certain drugs for medical reasons in the presence of a disease. Bjerndalen is an asmatik and uses drugs for the lungs and bronchi, which help to breathe better.

              Are you out of your mind ?! What planet do you live on ?! What the hell are medical indications ?! Firstly, Russia was not allowed not because it was used (although there were probably cases of use), but simply because it was necessary to remove the main competitor! Secondly, not a single doctor would issue such "certificates" to ours, and if they did, WADA would not recognize them as valid. Thirdly, sick people have no place at the Olympics, if they are so sick, then the maximum is the Paralympics, but they are not disabled, and therefore they sit at home, devour their drugs and no competition!
              You yourself understood what nonsense you wrote ?! You are actually justifying "athletes" for using doping, and you are justifying only Western athletes! Conclusions about who you are and whose interests you represent, suggest themselves ...
              1. 0
                23 September 2016 10: 49
                Are you out of your mind ?! What planet do you live on ?! What the hell medical indications ?!


                If you hear about professional sports for the first time in your life, then your position is clear. Sorry that I "discovered America" ​​for you. For decades, athletes have been taking medications, including prohibited ones, but they are allowed if there is a medical indication.

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                First, Russia was not allowed, not because they used it (although there were probably cases of use), but simply because it was necessary to remove the main competitor!


                I wrote something about the inadmissibility of the Olympics ??????????????????

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Secondly, not a single doctor would issue such "certificates" to ours, and if they did, WADA would not recognize them as valid.


                Why? You are a doctor? There are diagnoses. There are preparations. It is not considered doping under all international rules and regulations of sports federations. Raise your own "patients", but for some reason we don't have them.

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Thirdly, sick people have no place at the Olympics, if they are so sick, then the maximum of the Paralympics, but they are not disabled, and therefore they sit at home, eat their drugs and not any competition!


                This is you tell Bierndalen and hundreds of other athletes. You are likened to those whom you criticize. An excellent sporting principle - if you are sick, then you only have a place in the paralympics. I’ll tell you a secret again - people get sick constantly. Everyone on the paralympics? The criteria are not clear separation. Someone takes part in both olympiads in general. If you offer to develop criteria and diaznoses for this or that olympiad, then this is reasonable, but you do not need to demand from people to observe something that is not even there. No documents on this issue have been agreed.

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                You yourself understood what nonsense you wrote ?! You are actually justifying "athletes" for using doping, and you are justifying only Western athletes!


                Be more calm. I defend only my opinion. Emotions here interfere with sober thinking.
                1. +10
                  23 September 2016 11: 05
                  Orel Today, 10:49 ↑
                  If this is your first time in your life hearing about professional sports.

                  But nothing that I am a candidate for master of sports in volleyball ?!
                  I defend only my opinion.

                  Whose opinion you uphold here is evident not with the naked eye, do not go to the grandmother.

                  But in general, everything is clear with you, as I already wrote, here only according to Lavrov D ** B ** !!! I consider further discussion with you superfluous.
                  1. +1
                    23 September 2016 11: 11
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    But nothing that I am a candidate for master of sports in volleyball ?!


                    Then you surprise me very much. You all that I voiced should be known.

                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    But in general, everything is clear with you, as I already wrote, here only according to Lavrov D ** B ** !!! I consider further discussion with you superfluous.


                    We have been like this for a couple of years. If you disagree in something with our TV, which makes idiots out of people, then you are a "traitor", "sold out to the State Department", "enemy of the people", "unpatriot" and so on)))) Insanity grew stronger)))
                    1. +8
                      23 September 2016 11: 37
                      Insanity grew stronger)))

                      That's what I'm talking about! Quietly slate rustling, schiz mowed our ranks!
                      Eat dope further, especially psychotropic drugs like Simone Biles, they are extremely useful for the complete atrophy of the brain.
                      TV that makes people idiots

                      It’s watching whose TV you prefer to watch, but otherwise you’re right. He goes in Roi de Janeiro, and in Africa, and in Russia - he goes !!!
                2. +3
                  23 September 2016 13: 41
                  Quote: Orel
                  If you hear about professional sports for the first time in your life, then your position is clear. Sorry that I "discovered America" ​​for you. For decades, athletes have been taking medications, including prohibited ones, but they are allowed if there is a medical indication.

                  I wonder what then to open the test tubes, if you can just issue medical indications?
                  It’s not clear. Someone here is clearly a snout in the gun.
              2. +2
                23 September 2016 11: 36
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Secondly, not a single doctor would issue such "certificates" to ours, and if they did, WADA would not recognize them as valid. Thirdly, sick people have no place at the Olympics, if they are so sick, then the maximum is the Paralympics, but they are not disabled, and therefore they sit at home, devour their drugs and no competition

                Exactly. Olympics for healthy and strong in spirit. Nehru sick to do there. There is a disease, stay home treated.
                1. +11
                  23 September 2016 11: 42
                  Nehru sick to do there. There is a disease, stay home treated.

                  Patients are not only in America, as it turns out. With a change in the site, patients in the HE clearly increased! Although it seems not spring in the yard ... laughing
                  1. +5
                    23 September 2016 11: 56
                    Greetings, Diana! I fully support you. Your opponent will not understand in any way that sick children and athletes are specially selected in the West so that they can be completely legally given drugs to achieve high results. Some people cannot or do not want to understand that in the West, and especially in the USA, this business is put on stream. We see this by the number of athletes who use doping there.
                    And an attempt to justify doping as a "disease of athletes" does no honor to anyone, but rather hints at the bias of this subject.
                    1. +1
                      23 September 2016 12: 08
                      Quote: SRC P-15
                      Your opponent will not understand in any way that sick children and athletes are specially selected in the West so that they can be completely legally given drugs to achieve high results.


                      I have never heard more nonsense in my life))))))))

                      "There were people like people, and suddenly all at once became nerds ... Paradox"

                      Film "Brother"
                      1. +8
                        23 September 2016 12: 22
                        I have never heard more nonsense in my life))))))))

                        My dear, are you from the OSCE for an hour ?! I don’t see anything, I don’t hear anything, I don’t want to know anything !!!
                        You have compromised yourself! Is your surname accidentally not stankevich ?!
                        "There were people like people, and suddenly all at once became nerds ... Paradox"

                        As I understand it, are you talking to yourself ?!
                      2. +10
                        23 September 2016 18: 28
                        Quote: Orel
                        I have never heard more nonsense in my life))))))))

                        We heard Orel, we heard, why, in Syria, will we join the American coalition? You suggested in the fall. wink Oh, a long time ago you were not on the site, well, they finally waited. good
                        Quote: Orel
                        There are diagnoses. There are preparations. It is not considered doping under all international rules and regulations of sports federations. Raise your own "patients", but for some reason we don't have them.

                        Both, if I take morphine, I am considered a drug addict, with all the ensuing consequences, and in some countries I generally go to jail, and not to the Olympics with the permission of wada. Nu nude eagle, although .... does not look like an eagle .. ..film "brother-3,14" feel
                    2. +10
                      23 September 2016 12: 16
                      And an attempt to justify doping as a "disease of athletes" does no honor to anyone, but rather hints at the bias of this subject.

                      Look right at the root, Alexander. Here are just partisanship is too soft a definition for this subject! TovarisTCh came to us to convince everyone that the use of doping and drugs is quite common in professional sports. I just forgot a bit to mention what exactly is in Western sports. Yes, and our athletes came across at the reception, but what exactly ?! Harmless mildonia ?! That is, the completely "not engaged" WADA turns a blind eye to the intake of the hardest cocktails of chemistry and drugs by the athletes of the USA, Britain and other countries, US puppets, and our mildronat is rudely hit and, in the opinion of the Orel subject, is this normal ?! Yes, he does not just close his eyes, but in fact gives them an indulgence in the form of "certificates" from "doctors" ... It is impossible to think of any greater insanity, but at the same time, in his opinion, we are zombie fools, and he is not a recognized "genius" ... "Exclusivity" is so prettier! And then, under a magnifying glass, WADA examined only our and Chinese athletes, they were tested once or twice a day, and at night too, but for some reason it did not show any interest, neither to the Americans, nor to the British, etc. ... Well, in general, you understand everything yourself! love
                      1. +1
                        23 September 2016 13: 34
                        This is for you personally Diana. Maybe you will understand something:

                        The All-Russian Athletics Federation (VFLA) reminded athletes that they can take drugs prohibited in sports for the treatment of various diseases.

                        “VFLA recalls that in the event of a disease, the treatment of which requires drugs, which include substances prohibited in sports, it is necessary to issue a permit for therapeutic use,” the association’s website said in a statement.

                        The VFLA added that before obtaining permission to use drugs that are considered doping, athletes should not take them.

                        Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/633976#ixzz4L4dM8ENk
            2. +5
              23 September 2016 12: 58
              Indications for use (systematic !!!) of amphetamine can only be:
              -Asteno-depressive state (depressed state).
              Overwork and weakness (asthenic conditions).
              -Stimulation of labor (when labor due to non-disclosure of the cervix in the first period of labor lasts too long; or when the second period of labor - “expulsion of the fetus” is delayed. If labor is not yet begun, although labor must be completed by time) In the case, non-pharmacological agents are first applied, and then, upon the doctor’s decision, the stimulation methods are adjusted).
              Source: http://www.tiensmed.ru/news/amfetamin1.html "
              If a girl from school sits on antidepressants, then she needs to think not about the Olympics, but about the soul ..
            3. +4
              23 September 2016 15: 06
              "For a long time there has been a practice of allowing the taking of certain drugs for medical reasons by a doctor in the presence of a disease. Bjørndalen is asmatic and uses drugs for the lungs and bronchi, which help to breathe better. He has been diagnosed since childhood. Probably it helps him in sports, but without this he may just die. "

              People with diseases, especially those organs whose functions ensure victory, should be generally removed from official, and even more so, Olympic competitions. There is no need to develop a cult of disability among athletes. Today sports are a lot of money, and industrialists are not interested in how many athletes die in this "commercial marathon". The entire system for the recognition of doping drugs, the issuance of permits for their use by athletes for any indication must be transparent with control mechanisms by the public and medical community. And the Ministry of Sports is silent because the pressure on international organizations, I think, is not its jurisdiction. The Regulation on the Ministry does not consider this activity as its responsibility. Specialists should work here, not just anyone. And in general, to argue on complex topics from the level of OBS is absurd and not productive. When crap is pouring from every other comment, reading a thread is boring. We need to look for comments from experts, not crap passers-by.
            4. +1
              25 September 2016 18: 31
              Full nonsense.
            5. 0
              26 September 2016 11: 05
              If he has breathing problems, then the mouth of the Toda speaks at the Parmolimpiad.
              And the diagnosis of Biles is generally a laugh. this diagnosis is made to those who need and do not need it.
              And about making a diagnosis before the start of a professional career, then actually in each section we require a certificate for the child that he can study in this circle (they even require music).
              And then the problem is not that they are taking illegal drugs, but that these drugs are very heavy (something like synthetic drugs, relatively speaking, that is, it’s not smoking weed).
              Then it would be most correct that if medication begins to be used (I don’t say anything - sometimes it is very necessary and there is nothing to replace it with), then the athlete, TIME and AFTER the end of the treatment course, should not be allowed to compete. Duration of otenia is determined by the group of drugs taken. For example, he took conditional nurafen - a week without competition. He took an anabolic - sit without a competition for a year.
              That would be more fair. Moreover, training during this period is allowed.
              But if someone has something chronic, then forgive me is already disabled and in normal sport they have no place, because it is a threat to their lives. These are the ones you need to send to the Parm Olympiad as leading athletes.
            6. +1
              26 September 2016 11: 53
              That's just all Norwegian asthmatic skiers, as soon as they end their sports careers ... miraculously recover !!! Looks like the cause of the "disease" is the sport itself! ??
              1. 0
                26 September 2016 13: 19
                So here it is necessary to remove it.
                Prescribed pills - no speeches. Then everyone will immediately become healthy. I remember two years ago our skier was suspended from the race, because something in his blood is exceeded temporarily. And at the next race he was already running (the next day). So it is here. Sick - pain.
            7. +1
              29 September 2016 11: 48
              Quote: Orel
              Simone Biles

              And what are her vital indications? Something like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder? Is that fatal? All our children are hyperactive. Moreover, in our medicine there is no such diagnosis. Others were prescribed drugs for the terminally ill. And they calmly win gold at the Olympics. Do you yourself believe what you are writing about?
        2. +3
          23 September 2016 12: 38
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          So let's wait

          Alexander, so we only do what we expect ... weather by the sea.
          It’s just that you and I have time to wait, and people who have put all their strength (and funds too) to prepare for the Olympics and Paralympics, and who have brazenly and without proof kicked off the time, most of the time is gone. The century of a professional athlete is not as long as you know perfectly well without me.
          That is why the question of chewing snot by the Ministry of Sports with the look that it’s not at all in the city ...
          1. 0
            23 September 2016 12: 58
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            As I understand it, are you talking to yourself ?!


            Leaving you alone with conspiracy theories. I do not want to suffer this together with you.
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            2. +11
              23 September 2016 13: 41
              I do not want to suffer this together with you.

              Do not suffer, eat amphetamine, maybe it will make the disease easier! After amphetamine, take morphine and life will get better, for a while, until the next dose ...!
              1. +1
                23 September 2016 13: 48
                Open your eyes at last.

                How do you explain it then: In 2015, Russian athletes submitted 54 requests for the so-called “therapeutic exceptions” - the ability to take illegal drugs for medical reasons. Of the 54 requests, RUSADA satisfied 25. These 25 requests were satisfied by WADA - the agency informed RUSADA. There is an annual report RUSADA. See for yourself. Enough information on the site.

                And here's another fact: the All-Russian Federation of Athletics (VFLA) reminded athletes that they can take drugs prohibited in sports for the treatment of various diseases.

                “VFLA recalls that in the event of a disease, the treatment of which requires drugs, which include substances prohibited in sports, it is necessary to issue a permit for therapeutic use,” the association’s website said in a statement.

                The VFLA added that before obtaining permission to use drugs that are considered doping, athletes should not take them.

                It's a surprise for you that Russian athletes also take "doping", which they were allowed to take ???????? Knock out hallucinations and don't let TV make an idiot out of you. Check the information.
                1. +10
                  23 September 2016 14: 35
                  Out of 54 requests, RUSADA satisfied 25.

                  No, you are not positively friendly with the head. How many of these athletes were admitted by ARAF and WADA to the Olympics ?! ZERO!!! NONE RUSSIAN athlete was allowed to participate in the Olympics, with the exception of the jumper, who trained in the USA, and in the end, they found fault with her. So if a person walks, then this is forever. You can shove your scribbles away and along with reports of "vada and rusada"!
                  The point is that the THIRD team of Russia, and the Paralympic team as a whole, were unprovenly not allowed! And you are defending this abomination here, no better than the abomination that brewed it all!
                2. +2
                  23 September 2016 18: 46
                  and together did not allow All to games ....
                  "These 25 requests were also satisfied by WADA - the agency informed RUSADA." - it turns out that there were ghosts-sportsmen of the Russian Federation at the games feel with inquiries and inquiries, but without participation in games .....
          2. +4
            23 September 2016 13: 50
            Quote: Volodin
            It’s just that you and I have time to wait, but people who have put all their strength (and money too) into preparing for the Olympics and the Paralympic, and who have brazenly and unprovenly kicked off, often no longer have time.

            Greetings, Alex! hi
            I perfectly understand the condition of athletes who did not get to the Olympics and Paralympics. But now, no matter how indignant we are, you won’t turn back the clock. I blame our sports committee and its leaders now only for not being able to anticipate what happened and did nothing to prevent this. Well, now, as they say: after a fight they don’t wave their fists. It is necessary to slowly and reasonably prepare a strike against all kinds of mclaren and WADA. It is necessary to ensure that henceforth such figures and thoughts do not slander Russian athletes. So that they know that at the slightest injustice to our athletes, they can suffer, and not only financially.
            1. +2
              23 September 2016 14: 05
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              I blame our sports committee and its leaders now only for not being able to anticipate what happened and did nothing to prevent this. Well, now, as they say: after a fight they don’t wave their fists. It is necessary to slowly and reasonably prepare a strike against all kinds of mclaren and WADA.


              Forgive me for interfering in the conversation, but your desire is correct, but the initiative is completely illogical. This whole doping scandal has turned the whole country into people for whom TV thinks. If everyone thinks for himself and builds a banal logic, then a lot will become obvious. Listen to our officials. They seriously say that Rodchenkov CAM invented a doping scheme, CAM gave doping to athletes, CAM replaced samples, CAM hid everything. It's just a brilliant talent. For years and all by myself. This version is designed for idiots. As if the athletes do not have their own heads, there are no coaches. It is clear that Rodchenkov was only an executor of the will of the higher officials of our sport, and when the scandal was revealed, according to the old Russian tradition, they began to look for a "scapegoat" on which one could hang everything. They wanted to make Rodchenkov for them, but the "goat" turned out to be more cunning and did not want to drag the yoke for the whole company. He took them and handed them over with a clear conscience. How, who, what, when. It was then that it struck that the Paralympians were already hurt. And mind you. So far, no one has been punished and none of the high sports officials have resigned. I'm not even talking about administrative responsibility. Silence and screams that enemies are around. As another classic said: "What if somewhere they shout about patriotism - then somewhere they stole something"
              1. +6
                23 September 2016 14: 32
                On behalf of the "cretins", I will answer you: do you not admit the idea that Rodchenkov worked for the United States? If our sports officials wanted to make him a "scapegoat" (in your opinion), then he would hardly be released abroad. And then it turns out: Rodchenkov did his "job" and escaped to the United States.
                I repeat: the "Rodchenkov case" was specially staged by the US special services to further discredit Russia and personally V.V. Putin.
                1. +9
                  23 September 2016 15: 09
                  On behalf of the "cretins", I will answer you

                  Alexander, yes, at least *** in his eyes, all of God's dew. They should only be kept in the monkey house so that they stay away from society, otherwise it will infect someone inadvertently ...
                2. +1
                  23 September 2016 18: 49
                  And the lost analyzes of the Americans ???? No so that Togo or Grenada with San Marino analyzes to merge ........
          3. +2
            23 September 2016 18: 42
            you may not have caught it - but there is a text in the text about lawsuits worth $ 0,5 billion from athletes. And if the courts, it’s quite possible, the presumption of innocence has not been canceled, they will make decisions in favor of our athletes — for the IOC it’s a complete defeat and collapse ....
            And not because of attendants (although they will strangle themselves for a penny) - the doping control system will automatically collapse ... and such a medal fall will begin - that mom does not grieve ...
            Athletes who were not in the top ten can become champions
        3. +2
          23 September 2016 15: 07
          Sports officials should now plow in the Olympic Committee, sports federations, with countries participating in the Olympic movement. And this work is not necessarily public, and not only for sports officials, but also for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not measured.
          The first results are already there and it pleases! We will enjoy the process later based on the results.

          Mr. Ridi and other representatives of the current WADA elite have no place in this structure.

          I hope they find a place in prison for defamation.
  2. +2
    23 September 2016 06: 58
    "What is this strange" Olympic "calmness of the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation? Normal calmness. It looks like the banquet at the officials has long been paid.
  3. 0
    23 September 2016 07: 13
    One thing is strange in this situation - the silence of Russian officials from sports

    What do they have to do with it? They are nobody there, and there is no way to call them.
  4. +4
    23 September 2016 07: 15
    About indulgence correctly noticed. Pay and sleep peacefully. And no conscience, guilt and sin! The West came up with a good religion !!! Ugh his stump!
  5. +6
    23 September 2016 07: 19
    The Ministry of Sports turned out to be an elementary feeding trough for immigrants from * elites * and nothing more. It also becomes clear why the athletes frankly * were abandoned and set up *. Until those who respond to the outright scoundrel in * doping bosses * and other officials from sports do not answer, nothing will change. Well, there will be another meeting or something else, but apart from * integration into the international system * there will be NOTHING. Athletes only interfere, require something, and for the sake of their interests there will be NO ANYONE to conflict.
  6. +4
    23 September 2016 07: 24
    Maybe just a snout to the nines, at the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation, only Mutko has long been out of stock, hence the troubles so far such as Mutko rule in the sport of the Russian Federation.
    1. +4
      23 September 2016 08: 08
      In the Medvedev government, almost all ministers are "mudko" hence the troubles in almost all aspects of the country's life. am angry
      1. +5
        23 September 2016 09: 48
        Quote: jPilot
        Almost all ministers in the Medvedev government are "mutko"


        What a prime minister, such and ministers! What is there to be surprised at?
  7. +1
    23 September 2016 07: 30
    As our esteemed GDP says, it is necessary to decide in the legal field, it is necessary to sue, it is suing, it is suing again, and for big money, something was not common. The Ministry of Sports should know that under a lying stone and water does not flow, it is necessary to fuss, it’s up to you to protect your own business, not to write pieces of paper
  8. +6
    23 September 2016 07: 39


    Like, purely gentlemanly, you must take our word for it, for gentlemen never, never, never lie ...
  9. +5
    23 September 2016 07: 46
    One thing is strange in this situation - the silence of Russian officials from sports. Indeed, in fact, WADA has been found guilty of sponsoring the use of illegal drugs by dozens of American, British, German and other athletes.

    Nothing strange, these are clear signs corruption scheme . The officials are silent at their own accounts in Western banks, they were clearly warned that money would be arrested if they were active in the press or simply activating against WADA, and they or their relatives would be excommunicated from Schengen and other pleasures of life. The probability of 90%.
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      +1
      23 September 2016 10: 36
      Quote: atakan
      One thing is strange in this situation - the silence of Russian officials from sports. Indeed, in fact, WADA has been found guilty of sponsoring the use of illegal drugs by dozens of American, British, German and other athletes.

      Nothing strange, these are clear signs corruption scheme . The officials are silent at their own accounts in Western banks, they were clearly warned that money would be arrested if they were active in the press or simply activating against WADA, and they or their relatives would be excommunicated from Schengen and other pleasures of life. The probability of 90%.


      To be exact 99%. am
  10. +2
    23 September 2016 07: 52
    Yes, something of our bureaucrats is not audible, not visible.
  11. +1
    23 September 2016 08: 41
    Two varinata: good and bad.

    The bad thing is that Russian sports officials don't give a damn. As has happened repeatedly before.
    A good one is the calm before the storm, that is - something is being prepared - along the line, for example, of the FSB.

    For the first option - all past experience + the practice of behavior of functionaries for the period from the moment of the first mocking disclosures to the adoption of monstrous decisions; for a year somewhere. They were silent, silent, and then they looked down and generally pretended to be out of business.
    For the second option - quite successful and timely stuffing in the essence of the problem. If these stuffing continues, then the yelling "we are not to blame" is clearly not enough for WADA.
  12. +3
    23 September 2016 08: 42
    What kind of strange "Olympic" calm of the RF Ministry of Sports? Or is there "its own atmosphere"? ..

    It looks like the author is right, there really is "its own atmosphere" !!! laughing
  13. +6
    23 September 2016 08: 44
    Why be surprised? Many officials from the sport have received their positions in feeding. That is, they simply bought their positions, and now they "beat off" money.
    The situation, unfortunately, resembles the "nineties". At that time it was possible to get a normal job only by "pull". In commercial organizations, this situation is ubiquitous. An acquaintance told me: I got a job in a bank for a "firing position". They warned that if they fail, they will be fired in a month. His boss is in her early twenties. No education, no experience. An acquaintance asked how this mademoiselle ended up in such a responsible position. They answered honestly: I came from the "panel". It is clear for what merits.
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  15. +1
    23 September 2016 09: 17
    And sports officials from EP always have their own atmosphere.
  16. +3
    23 September 2016 09: 28
    The bulk of the citizens of the Russian Federation who came (and did not come) to the elections confirmed that the existing order in the country suits them. That's all. What are the claims to the officials. And then dear fellow citizens relax and have fun.
    How much more humiliation is needed? How much money was taken out and stolen to break through?
    Mutko didn’t even get off with a fright, after all. That means he is quite satisfied with the leadership. His man.
    Personally, I don’t give a damn about WADA. I’m interested in another question. So are our athletes swallowing dope en masse or not? If not, why is there silence? Where are the suits? Where are our security forces prosecutors? Why are the WADA liars and swindlers not called for interrogation?
    1. +2
      23 September 2016 18: 52
      BARKHAN
      "silence?Where are the suits? Where are our law enforcers "- read the text before dropping saliva on a tie? Claims for $ 0,5 billion have already been filed and this is just the beginning .......
    2. +2
      29 September 2016 20: 30
      The bulk of the citizens of the Russian Federation who came (and did not come) to the polls confirmed that the existing order in the country suits them

      That's it, but you do not like it? Well, a suitcase, a station, then everywhere.
      Why tear so much? Find yourself another government, another state, another people.
  17. +4
    23 September 2016 09: 46
    All Russians should send their urine to WADA, let them choke. Need a mailing address and a good Internet promotion type flash mob.
    1. 0
      23 September 2016 12: 08
      You can not only urine, but analyzes in full. fellow
  18. +2
    23 September 2016 10: 45
    My personal opinion is that there was an unsuccessful attempt by the State Department to seize power in the IOC, but the IOC resisted, because it dragged Russian athletes to the Olympics in Rio, now the IOC will kick in full WADA about if they knew earlier that they were silent, WADA will go to expense unequivocally, plus a lot of lawsuits fall on her, well, and the IOC is likely to create something like that, but already under its jurisdiction, I agree with the author, it is not clear just why our officials are silent, enough to wipe off it's time to act.
  19. +1
    23 September 2016 11: 27
    "The author naively believes that" Russian officials from sports "are silent on a whim? Completeness, they just did not have the command to enter the conflict ahead of time. The time has not yet come to say our Russian" fi ". Let the hackers first lay out everything that they have is available on WADA - thereby adding trump cards in our hands.A demoralized enemy is easier to defeat and no matter how someone says that all the attempts of hackers are in vain, we see that thanks to their efforts, WADA's ground is burning under our feet. Therefore, let's wait until the panic in this organization will reach its climax and we will strike so that the memories of the pro-American puppet are gone. "
    - All officials have accounts and real estate abroad, they are completely corrupt and on a leash in the United States.
  20. +1
    23 September 2016 12: 35
    Quote from rudolf
    The best option is to cancel doping control in general. You want to swallow chemistry for fame and money, but for God's sake! One hell, the modern Olympic Games have long ceased to be just a sport. Business, commerce, politics, shows ...

    How many footballers in recent years have died so 4-5 right on the field? ... more than a hundred! (in top class teams)
    And how much - right after the match? also - no less ... And this is with a powerful and high-quality medical support!
    Doping tests are pure ...
  21. +1
    23 September 2016 14: 03
    One thing is strange in this situation - the silence of Russian officials from sports.


    Why is there a strange corruption not only in WADA, but it looks like ours. request
  22. 0
    23 September 2016 16: 17
    Eh, to file a lawsuit against this Maclaren (I suspect that he is Mac Laren, a Scot), for all the money. This is the only thing that the arrogant Saxons are afraid of. They have not been afraid of shame and dishonor for a long time ...
  23. +1
    23 September 2016 19: 45
    Quote: Orel
    You are biased. For a long time there has been a practice of allowing the administration of certain drugs for medical reasons by a doctor in the presence of a disease. Bjørndalen is an asmatic and uses drugs for the lungs and bronchi, which help him breathe better. He has been diagnosed since childhood. Perhaps this helps him in sports, but without it he can simply die. It's the same with many other athletes. The same Simone Biles, whom our media "analyzed" so much, has been taking medicine since school.

    -------------------------
    But where are we going to be sires? Simone Biles and other American men take analogues of heroin and cocaine-rinaltin, and hydromorphone, powerful amphetamines. In Russia, packing such "wheels" will take you 12 years. These tablets are used to pump up the military so that they calm down before an attack or a combat mission, do not think about injuries and death, and do not perceive the surrounding reality. PROBABLY IT HELPS THEM IN SPORT! In general, American athletes, American actors, American politicians are heavy alcoholics and drug addicts. Even the vaunted Brad Pitt, according to which the women dried up, turns out to be a complete drunk and a drug addict, Angelina quietly filed for divorce as because of family scandals.
  24. 0
    25 September 2016 18: 26
    It is necessary to call things by their proper names TRADITORS and corrupt officials, and what is silent is from enlightenment, as V. Vysotsky said.
  25. 0
    26 September 2016 10: 05
    This WADA we do not need
    https://poembook.ru/poem/984584
    https://poembook.ru/poem/1044244
  26. 0
    26 September 2016 17: 41
    Mutko and his comrades clearly do not want to do this. The Olympics are over, and the fight against Wada is over. Now the struggle for a worthy performance of our team at the FIFA World Cup is unfolding. And given that our players can do whatever they want, there is not enough strength to fight on two fronts. SPECIALLY DESIRE !!! negative
  27. +1
    26 September 2016 17: 45
    our officials are working on the go-ahead, apparently the go-ahead has not yet been given.
  28. 0
    29 September 2016 11: 21
    The doping roll-ups on Russian athletes began not last year, but already back in 2002, during the Salt Lake City Olympics. Then our biathlon team was hacked to death, and “the best biathlete of all times and peoples” Bjoerndalen won everything he could, sitting tightly on anti-asthma drugs and coming to the finish line all in snot. And to remember how the Canadian figure skaters were awarded the "parallel" gold medal! From that Olympics, the constant persecution of Russian athletes began, along with the simultaneous legal permissions of Westerners to take doping. By the Olympics in Rio, it all just came to its logical conclusion. And primarily because of the inaction of Russian sports and state structures, which for fifteen years justified themselves, forgetting that the best defense is an offensive. Only this summer and autumn did Russian officials come to their senses and began active offensive operations. It immediately turned out that both the World Anti-Doping Agency (which is maintained mainly with Canadian money) and the Anglo-Saxon athletes have their snouts completely in fluff. The question is - what prevented ours from doing this earlier, until our athletes were completely pressed against the wall?
  29. 0
    29 September 2016 12: 23
    [/ quote] What kind of strange "Olympic" calm of the RF Ministry of Sports? Or is there "its own atmosphere"?. [Quote]

    Why be surprised? the official doesn’t get money for nervous work, he’s got so much WAY that he’s ...
  30. +2
    29 September 2016 20: 23
    That you orel you see is not very orientated in big sport, meldonium WRITTEN completely officially ours. Meldonium, this is not some kind of special stimulant, it is a simple medicine, for example, it was also prescribed to me.

    And what did WADA look at these recipes? Ask Sharapova .... am

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