Maidan Ukraine is looking for heroes for the "Pantheon"

Last Saturday (17 of September), under the auspices of the Institute of National Remembrance of Ukraine, an event was held, called the publishing forum “Why does Ukraine have a national pantheon?” The forum was held in Lviv, and participants in this meeting discussed why pantheons erected in honor of victories and There are fallen heroes, but there is no Ukraine in the Maidan? The following thesis was listed as the starting point of the event: In the USA, the Arlington Cemetery, in France, the Pantheon, but what about Ukraine? ..

From the forum presentation from press service Institute of National Memory of Ukraine:
In many countries, it is customary to build symbolic cemeteries of its outstanding representatives. This is a manifestation of respect for those who sacrificed themselves for the sake of a common ideal, and part of the national symbolism. In the Ukrainian case, symbolic places of memory are scattered across continents. Many graves of famous Ukrainians are unknown, many are destroyed.

In order to significantly revitalize the publishers forum, its organizers decided to hold a kind of “defile” of people dressed up in the new Ukrainian military uniform, as well as in the form of “Bandera traditions”. This part of the event was accompanied by statements that Ukraine "finally gets rid of the remnants of the Soviet past and in terms of military uniform too."

Maidan Ukraine is looking for heroes for the "Pantheon"

Yes, it gets rid, gets rid ... Who would doubt ...

It is, however, worth returning to the idea of ​​representatives of the same Institute of National Memory of the creation of the Ukrainian "pantheon of heroes." Pantheon, forgive whom? What kind of heroes? ..

And here immediately arises, to put it mildly, a hitch. Even if you go deep into history a state that today calls itself an independent Ukraine, then what kind of heroic personalities, and especially what significant victories worthy of pantheon perpetuation, can we talk about?
Given the fact that the lion’s share of modern Ukraine is a product of the policy of those who today are trying to get rid of the Kiev “Vlad” by all means, the Ukrainian “institute” will have to sweat to distinguish outstanding Ukrainians who are not connected with the past for the construction of communism. And if we take into account the fact that a large part of modern Ukraine is fragments of the Russian Empire, plus parts of individual European states (Hungary, Romania, Poland), then with “true Ukrainian heroes” everything is quite difficult. As they say, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge, well, or where you throw - everywhere either figures of the USSR era (de-communized or non-de-communized), or representatives of Little Russia who swore allegiance to the Russian crown, or even Austro-Hungarians who lived on that territory of Ukraine which previously belonged to the same Austro-Hungarian Empire. Where are the Ukrainian heroes? ..

Certainly, in the Ukrainian pantheon, by definition, there could be plots for ashes and memorial tablets in memory of such heroes as the legendary Marshal of the Armored Forces Pavel Semyonovich Rybalko or the no less legendary participant of the Brusilov Breakthrough (World War I) and the partisan commander of the World War II Sidor Artemyevich Kovpak . The first was born in the village of Maly Vistorop of the Kharkov province (now the village is included in the Sumy region of Ukraine), the second - in the Kotelevsky district of Poltava region. To describe all the merits of these people will need a separate weighty publication. That's just the trouble for the current Maidan of Ukraine is that neither Rybalko, nor Kovpak, nor many other prominent commanders have anything to do with it. First, at the time of the birth of these people, no Ukraine existed either de jure or de facto, but there was a Russian empire with the mentioned Kharkiv and Poltava provinces. Secondly, the Maidan Ukraine, by its law on de-communization, itself, in fact, refused these eminent people. In 2012, a memorable coin was left in honor of the legendary Sidor Kovpak, but it was before the “revolution of dignity”, after which the word “dignity” became associated with pots on the head and jumping to heart-rending cries about “gilyak”.

In the Ukrainian pantheon could be Ivan Kozhedub, Yevgeny Bereznyak (Major Whirlwind), Pavel Batitsky, proceeding at least from the places of birth of these heroic people. But again, where is Maidan Ukraine and its heroes? This state has a three-fold history and its “heroes” have ...
Of course, if ukropantheon is created, then it is created, first of all, by no means under Kovpak and other heroes of the Great Patriotic War who fought for the real prosperity of Ukraine as part of the union of fraternal peoples. This pantheon will be honed under the infamous personalities from the Bandera and Shukhevych series.

Bandera - this is a real hero for the modern Maidan "Vlada", because, like the Maidan "Vlad", he began his tumultuous activity on Ukrainian territory not without Western patronage and tried his best to use this patronage. The interest of Nazi Germany in Bandera as an element of anti-Soviet propaganda and anti-Soviet consolidator of armed gangsters in Western Ukraine, in fact, made Bandera a “national Ukrainian hero”. Today in Ukraine, the "correct" version of the role of Bandera is the version that Bandera fought for the independence of Ukraine, and the OUN (later the OUN-UPA) led by him fought "for Ukraine" with both the Wehrmacht and the Red Army. For the pantheon - just an ideal ... "Ideal", if not for one thing. The “correct” version of the Maidan and Kiev and the homemade liberal historians of Ukraine does not mean historical reality.

And historical reality is described by archival materials. Based on the archived data of the Federal Republic of Germany, published at the request of Sergey Nikulin, the head of the Soviet Crimean officers, the Wehrmacht did not suffer any noticeable losses from the OUN (OUN-UPA) units in 1939-1945, which means that the Bandera never fought against the Nazis. From a letter to Sergey Nikulin from representatives of the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich (the material publishes Ридус).

Our institute does not have materials about the losses of the Wehrmacht, inflicted on it by the underground groups of the UPA in Western Ukraine. Approximately in the summer of 1943, UPA troops began attacking Wehrmacht rear facilities, took German prisoners and killed several soldiers, although in most cases German prisoners were released.

Another note (based on the work of the Polish Sejm):
In the archives and in the memories of eyewitnesses there is no information about the battles, except for minor incidents of Bandera with the Nazi troops. There is also no information about sabotage behind enemy lines. In addition, the UPA has more or less cooperated with the occupying forces, mainly during operations against the defenseless Polish population.

In other words, the “hero” Bandera and his troops never fought against the Nazi troops. But there are thousands of evidences of how the executioners from the OUN-UPA "fought" against civilians: burned villages, torn people, against whom more than 2-s hundreds of executions without using cartridges were used (one of them was strangled twisted the rope around the victim's neck), rape, terror, forced weaning of food, etc. One word “Khatyn” will tell a lot about the “heroism” of Bandera from the 118 th Shutsmanshaft battalion, which is closely connected with the activities of the OUN.

But did, when creating (if they create) the Ukrainian pantheon, all these details of the activities of the “hero” will be remembered. Of course not. Pan on the head and European integration does not allow ...

In general, the fact remains that Ukraine has no real heroes who would a) really be heroes, b) fall under the “norms” of the Maidan authorities. If they make a list, then it will be collaborators-traitors, executioners like Bandera and Shukhevych, as well as new "Bandera" who participate in punitive campaigns against their own people. Interestingly, Sashko Bilyi, who was shot twice in the heart, fits the requirements of the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine? ..
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  1. +9
    20 September 2016 05: 54
    Missed Blin Heroes laughing
    1. +4
      20 September 2016 10: 14
      Heroes of Banderland found.
      Their fans are already raised.

      1. 0
        22 September 2016 11: 11
        Oh, these words of foreign origin: well, here, again, they all mixed up! lol

        That's right: "Maidan Ukraine is looking for heroes for PANOPTICUM!" wassat

        Bebik and Vyatrovich continue to work on the publication of the Ukrainian BESTIARIA.
    2. 0
      20 September 2016 14: 20
      Quote - "Blin heroes are omitted"
      Nevertheless, he was posthumously appropriated the Hero of Ukraine, a prospect in Kiev was named in his honor, and many Svidomo "patriots" like Kolomoisky proudly wear T-shirts with the inscription "Zhidobandervets".
      And all the Russian, Polish or German archival documents about the true history of Bandera's "heroism" have already been called fakes by the written "historians" of Ukraine, and so they live and do not suffer.
      Which state are such and heroes.
      1. +3
        20 September 2016 15: 46
        Quote: One of You
        Which state are such and heroes.

        therefore, I propose to be the first to bury the egg, poroshenko and turchinov in this cemetery. live and as soon as possible. then directly by battalion to bury the National Battalions of the Azov-Dnieper type. and then plant this place with aspens. so that the tree does not translate into colas. then when the forest grows even a beautiful name can be given. type "forest of Judah".
    3. 0
      20 September 2016 18: 01
      Find this film. There would be a bomb for banderlogs
  2. +2
    20 September 2016 05: 59
    Let them start with Sashko Bilogo, i.e. Muzychko. The real hero of the new Ukraine. Beat all. And Muscovites. And their, despite the ranks, merit and status.
    A true hero for the solemn introduction into the Pantheon.
    1. +3
      20 September 2016 07: 20
      Quote: ImPerts
      Let them start with Sashko Bilogo, i.e. Muzychko. The real hero of the new Ukraine.

      He does not channel, he died at the hands of his own. His dead carcass with a bare belly was broadcast by all TV channels around the world ... Hero does not smell.
      1. +2
        20 September 2016 08: 30
        Suitable for this. They will write that they were agents of the FSB and that this is Putin’s order. A ride.
  3. +5
    20 September 2016 06: 22
    Let them create a dump for their heroes, so that in the future there would be much to spit on the common people, but they would fence around Yatsenyukh, and that’s what the Tse Ukropsk Pantheon will be like.
  4. +8
    20 September 2016 06: 30
    The territory of dill, if not transformed, then turns into a cemetery of burnt truth, killed morality and history.
    Ukraine, remember the hop will pass
    Sobering up will be in a year
    Amid graves and scorched gardens
    Amid the ruins of former cities
    You will one day creep out into the light
    Turn around ... And you already aren't ...!
    T. Shevchenko.
  5. +3
    20 September 2016 06: 45
    Pantheon, excuse me, whom? What kind of heroes? ..
    Well, firstly, a sash-beaten, a tornado in its entirety, again, a double-wounded hydrocephalus in a duplex ...
    Yes, if you joke, there will be more than one hundred heroes
  6. +2
    20 September 2016 06: 56
    Ideally, to remove the issue of border control, the pantheon can be built on the border of LDNR with Russia, where the foundation pit is dug. And you can save a penny and heroes at work - who else but to bury the border, pah, keep it!
    The main thing is not to forget the new heroes, immortalize while they are alive - bury them waist-deep and pour concrete.
  7. +5
    20 September 2016 07: 14
    Stages of decommunization. Rather, the stages of Greater Putin-as Svidomo consider. laughing

    1. Fighting passports.
    2. Fighting monuments.
    3. Fighting names.
    4. The fight against military ranks.
    5. Fighting a military uniform
    6. Fight with atlases and maps.
    7. Fighting Russian military equipment - by coloring it in yellow-black colors. laughing

    8. The apotheosis of struggle - pantheon with the main character - Bandera, which in all civilized countries (even in Poland) is considered a fascist and a fanatic.

    And where is anything useful at all? Where is the economy? Where is the sane policy? Where ideology is sane - you want to be anti-Russia - be, but do not deify the fascists! Where is MotorSich? Where is Yuzhmash? Where is ChSZ in Nikolaev? Bardachin was bred, some rotten abscess in Europe.
  8. +3
    20 September 2016 07: 16
    Maidan Ukraine is looking for heroes for the "Pantheon"

    They won’t find, they’ll come up with it. For the first time or something, there is a whole institute for this.
    1. +1
      20 September 2016 11: 55
      And that thumped gorilki, smoked, took doping. And such heroes flooded, just have time to record. Enough of the pantheon.
  9. SMS
    20 September 2016 07: 30
    Blue-eyed and probably wants to reserve a place there.
  10. +7
    20 September 2016 07: 30
    Yaka Power, Heroes! fool
  11. +2
    20 September 2016 10: 03
    they have winter on their nose, and they are building pantheons, Santa Claus will suit them with frostbite on their heads
  12. +1
    20 September 2016 12: 50
    What happened to Ukraine is a warning to us. Do not rock the boat. Russia needs stability more than ever
  13. 0
    20 September 2016 15: 16
    Good author. I managed with a little news, by the way with a good initiative, to make a real outburst of hatred and gag. Oh by the way, the author
    Eugene Stepanovich Bereznyak (wiki)
    The title of Hero of Ukraine with the award of the Golden Star Order (August 21, 2001) - for personal courage and bravery, heroism and self-sacrifice shown during the performance of especially important tasks during the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 [4]
    Order of Merit, I degree (February 25, 2009) - for personal courage shown in the fight against fascist invaders, significant contribution to the development of the veteran movement, patriotic education of youth and on the occasion of the 95th birthday [5]
    The honorary insignia of the President of Ukraine (October 6, 1994) - for personal merits in the development of the veteran movement, active social activities and on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Ukraine from fascist invaders [6]
    Full holder of the order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky:
    The order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 30st degree (April 2005, 7) - for military and labor merits, indestructible will, active work in veteran organizations and patriotic education of youth [8] [XNUMX]
    Order of Bogdan Khmelnytsky II degree (February 19, 2004) - for personal courage and bravery shown in the defense of state interests, strengthening the defense and security of Ukraine [9]
    Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky III degree
    Honorary title "Honored Teacher of the Ukrainian SSR" (1961)
    Kozhedub yes- "offended". Only monuments and a university.
    Kharkov University of Air Force named after Ivan Kozhedub. But his name is constantly mentioned among prominent Ukrainians and that a third of Ukrainians in the SA won the victory over Germany (and a third of all Heroes of the USSR are Ukrainians)
    Marshal Batitsky was also not forgotten in this vein. Such people were born in Ukraine (here I write "na" as part of the USSR). Also Chernyakhovsky. On February 22, 2013 by the Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 85/2013 the National University of Defense of Ukraine was named after Ivan Chernyakhovsky
    The article is a complete gag. Like they have Bandera alone Shukhevychi. Heroes Although they are not heroes of Ukraine. (One is not a citizen at all and removed heroism from him). The fact that the memory for them asks, hi asks. They did their work there.
    Now there is a discussion about the transportation of dust, the creation of a cemetery of heroes.
    The author is right in one thing - that we were part of empires and states. That is, the heroes who were born on the territory of Ukraine were common.
    Here the main thing is to direct efforts to adequate glorification. And not "necessary for the given time."
    I am distrustful of the Institute of Memory itself. They accept very controversial issues.
    But heroic and outstanding must be remembered. For example, I really respect the Queen, Glushko, Khmelnitsky, but for me the whole contribution of people is a contribution to humanity (and here nationality does not matter). Small local - only important for self-identification
    1. +2
      20 September 2016 15: 48
      "A good author. With a little news, by the way, with a good initiative, I managed to make a real release of hatred and gag ..."

      No hate! Hit and smile, smile and hit! (from)

      But seriously, the most "censored" definition of a Ukrainian is a masochist ... all the rest are not printed! And this is not an attempt to offend the "great ukrov", but a simple statement of fact (if I wish, I can prove to anyone in 5 minutes that he is ****, with figures and facts).
    2. +2
      20 September 2016 16: 56
      The article does not talk about Ukraine until 2014, the article talks about what it has become and what it is trying to worship. What do you remember, what to be proud of after decommunization? Cool, the Holodomor, Bandera - that’s the whole current set of national pride, no matter how you rearrange it and this flaw is recognized but not recognized by you. Plus, hatred of Russia, as an expression of the European choice and the dog’s devotion to mattress. Look at your TV - is there at least one show about those who sacrificed themselves for the country, rather than sadistically destroying others?
  14. 0
    22 September 2016 13: 30
    De-communization of one’s country (from observations) usually turns into demonization of the USSR / Russia. And it has nothing to do with reality.

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