Our dear and very expensive deputies ...

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Our dear and very expensive deputies ...


Me - an absolute teapot in parliamentary nuances - giving all my time to an activity completely incomprehensible and even hostile (from the point of view of the "right" politician) - creating new and preserving existing jobs - are interested in questions that may seem amazingly naive and amazing to you inappropriate, namely:



What deputies should receive allowances from the treasury to be absolute and incorruptible patriots of their homeland? How much budget money for yourself, a loved one, to spend correctly, and how much is already indecent? What does a modesty policy look like in absolute numbers?

Of particular interest are all sorts of different commissions on deputy ethics ... Tell me, but maybe it is worth creating a commission on deputy modesty and deputy integrity? Well, immediately (in order not to get up twice) to create a special control and immediately after it - special supervision over the special control over this commission?

Although the root question is, in fact, different:

Why do we need to spend budget funds on voluntary and disinterested (this is in the program of any party there) servants of the people? What kind of patriotism is this?

And how much does the people's representative spend on their election? Newsland for 2011 year for the Russian State Duma gives a variation - from 2 to 10 million non-patriotic dollars. Fontankaru - for the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg reduces this figure to 50 000 dollars. I personally in the tiny - literally seven-press Latvia were offered for 100 000 then the lat (140 000 euros) - to participate and for 500 000 - to get elected. But in any case, for any sane person it is understandable - MP is not a job for the poor.

And these, more than wealthy people, for the most part - dollar millionaires with some kind of fright claim to budgetary salary .. Well, very expensive patriotism is obtained, isn't it?

Why is this dashing and far from poor folk ready to bring happiness to his country only at the state account? And for your weak? I personally, wanting to help, participated absolutely free of charge when asked, and in the development and bringing to mind the normative documents, regulations, instructions, regulations and other bureaucratic “labuda” for multi-level deputies, and nothing went bankrupt ...

In a word - so far no one could explain to me clearly - to hell at the expense of a poor population to keep patriotic millionaires? Find the arguments - write - read with interest.

One more important and extremely budget-intensive question:

Why all of them to collect in a handful, and without fail in the capital?

What could they discuss laws? Modern means of communication allow you to do this as efficiently as possible, without ever leaving your permanent place of residence. What is there to discuss - an electronic signature allows you to sign documents and, of course, vote, being thousands of miles apart. Listen to the report of the Minister and the President? Discuss sore? Similarly. Well, there is not a single reason for keeping an expensive building in the center of the capital for “servants of the people”, which behave for some reason, like his gentlemen ...

I want to meet short - pay and fly! Pay exactly, and not the VIP-lounge for the state account for me and my entire retinue ... Believe me, if you cancel flights financed from the budget, the number of places where you have to be “nosebleed” is sharply reduced.

And finally - the most interesting thing is about the responsibility of a deputy for his activities.

For a start - a little stories:

One of the deputies of the Zemsky Sobor 1648-49. Two months after the end of the Council, Gavrila Malyshev was afraid to return to Kursk, because he did not fulfill the instructions of his voters. The king even had to give him a special protection letter. It turns out that in the middle of the XVII century in the Russian Empire it was completely democratic to think about the duty of a deputy to voters, more democratic than now.

Notice, I don’t even ask philosophical and rhetorical questions - why is it wrong for everyone to lie, and politicians are right, necessary and right? And what is this political responsibility that cannot be translated into any normal language? I personally believe that campaign promises are an oath. Failure to comply with this oath is a crime. The real thing is criminal. Even this article is-fraud. Good article by the way. Correct:

Fraud - the theft of another's property or the acquisition of the right to another's property by fraud or breach of trust.

At the same time, all voters are the subject of fraud, and the object is the entire state and state-owned property.

Here it would be added with a clause in which to write that non-fulfillment of election promises is fraud and is punished by community service for the same term for which the deputy who failed to comply was elected.

And here everything should be clear and military. Promised - do it! Did not - a crook. No, of course, there are force majeure circumstances that did not allow ... So let the court understand how significant they are. But non-fulfillment by the deputy of election promises should qualify in the same way as actions of an unscrupulous developer who raised money from shareholders but did not even dig a ditch ...

The technique is simple, like mooing a cow. You are a deputy, the people believe you that you will do something concrete. Promised - follow. Not fulfilled - abused trust - art. 159, part of 3 - from 3x to 6 - court, Siberia ...

Voting list for the party entirely? No problem! We can also by party lists. The party has a program - let it execute it. Not done? The same article, only “in a group of persons ...” Yeah, aggravating! - Art. 159, part of 4 ... Here are all this group, including political technologists and sponsors - for a dozen - hello, sunny Magadan - you can even all in one barrack, where during these 10 years they will be able to refine the next election program for the next elections ...

Tell me, it seems to me alone that it will be so fair and just?

Yes, yes, I know what they will say to me now: In ns this is impossible. Well, yes, bye is impossible. Actually due to the fact that “it is (so far) impossible” - the whole planet has been shaking the systemic crisis for a year now, which is why it is called “systemic” because within the existing system of relations where the responsibility of the authorities is impossible for some reason The problem is not solved.

And it will shake us exactly as long as this very responsibility does not materialize, as an integral part of any management activity. And the responsibility is progressive - the higher the post - the greater the responsibility. For, as Holy Scripture says, “to whom much is given, much will be asked of ...”

That is, for the same offense - the higher the status - the more serious the punishment. And where the hard worker can only be scolded, the boss has to be whipped with batogs, and politicians altogether should be hanged on the frontal place.

But you are absolutely right - so far nothing has happened. So far, nothing like this is possible. And this means that the systemic crisis will continue, which means that there will be constant swings, where “it seems like it was better now”, guaranteed and quickly gives way to “well, again Ass!” And it will continue until it is absolutely pressed or until it gets completely bored. And if nothing changes right now, it means that it is not pressing too hard yet, not absolutely, and not quite, you can tolerate it.

But this process is objective, like the sunset. In the end, pripret "to the glands." Pripret necessarily. Then, as if by itself, personal criminal responsibility for political promises, and full financial responsibility for economic activities will appear ... Because the alternative to the concept of responsibility is already on the horizon and is called very unprintable, but so far, as Grandpa Lenin wrote, the feeling that IT is approaching, has not yet “captured the minds of the masses” ..

That is, to put it simply, not in a political language, the roasted rooster has not really pecked yet. OK. We are waiting, sir ... But there is a time to write something. The next topic in general will be so scandalous: "Why am I against universal suffrage?" That is, to be continued.
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  1. +11
    19 September 2016 06: 02
    That is, for the same misconduct - the higher the status - the more severe the punishment.

    It would be nice, but ... Deputy immunity and other charms of life that are not available to us. And for the sake of which they aspire higher and higher ...
    1. +26
      19 September 2016 06: 33
      So far, nothing like this is possible. And that means that the systemic crisis will continue, which means there will be a constant swing,

      And now what to whine, gentlemen are good, yesterday you just had to take your ass off the couch and go to the police station. Well, yes, yes, it’s not our own fault, this is our population.
      Quote: Karabin
      When it becomes a people again. In the meantime, this is the population.

      Carabiner do you also leave the population?
      1. +18
        19 September 2016 09: 09
        All these "heaps" (parties) from one anus. "Choose" on the principle of lesser stench? Or a less offensive color? The people were faced with a FALSE choice, when there is only one lie among the "choice". It's like in the swindle of the early 90s called "thimbles", under which glass you don't look for the ball (the truth), you still won't find it - it's no longer there ...
      2. 0
        19 September 2016 09: 09
        All these "heaps" (parties) from one anus. "Choose" on the principle of lesser stench? Or a less offensive color? The people were faced with a FALSE choice, when there is only one lie among the "choice". It's like in the swindle of the early 90s called "thimbles", under which glass you don't look for the ball (the truth), you still won't find it - it's no longer there ...
      3. +11
        19 September 2016 15: 12
        Everything is correctly said, only to say about our people that this population is still mildly said, with forgiving kindness.
        Sam voted for the Communist Party after 18 hours. There was one in the register of voters on the page with my last name !!! voted by this time. We are not people - we are sheep for the slaughter! A lazy herd that does not think about its future and its children and is only able to be sheared by the owners of the flocks.
        I’m not that everyone should vote for the Communist Party, but the fact that they had to go to the polls and vote as they see fit.
        And so - again everything was decided upstairs, and there the EP and the hangers-overs supposedly from the opposition. Such are the things.
        But yesterday’s booth at Solovyov didn’t even look, so today it continues with even greater diligence of the participants.
        1. +4
          19 September 2016 21: 29
          Russia, united and about six percent "fair" (SR - 6,22%)

          1.
          And you know, I recognize the election results in Russia.

          Or did Yavlinsky or Khakamada hide their voices?

          I would rather believe that they were attributed.

          2.
          Imitation red-brown, represented by the classics of the genre Zyuganovymm and Zhirinovsky, took their toll: less than thirty percent for two.

          It would be a little over thirty - it would also fit into the framework of their real support by the electorate.

          3.
          The Russian national-imperial party could have gained more, say, led by Navalny, but Putin is fulfilling this political function.

          Bulk personally prettier to someone?

          Well, this is indeed a private matter.

          4.
          And if you like democracy, you have to dump it in the Free World and from time to time make a pilgrimage to Ancient Greece. What I am doing.
          Pyotr Mezhuritsky

          Here is the opinion of our former compatriot about the past election.
      4. +1
        20 September 2016 00: 15
        Do you really believe that the mouse has a choice? between cat vaska cat murzik and cat saffron? Do you really believe that this is a choice?
    2. +9
      19 September 2016 08: 35
      Quote: EvgNik
      Deputy immunity and other delights of life that are not available to us. And for the sake of which they aspire higher and higher ...


      office apartment, cottage, car ... and on the maintenance of the state - while it benefits, let it enjoy these privileges
      but the salary is not more than the minimum wage, so that I feel my closeness to ordinary people
      1. +3
        19 September 2016 15: 49
        tihiy

        It was necessary to choose the right one. Now, after the battle they don’t wave their fists.

        Now for 3 official summer residences, and 5 Mercedes you will pay for each deputy.

        Couch ...
        1. +4
          19 September 2016 22: 19
          Quote: gladcu2
          tihiy

          It was necessary to choose the right one. Now, after the battle they don’t wave their fists.

          Now for 3 official summer residences, and 5 Mercedes you will pay for each deputy.

          Couch ...


          If you are smooth to me, then you can certainly be smart, I don’t mind. And as for me, I was not too lazy and went to the polls, voted for the Communist Party, by the way, there were no people in the hall except members of the Electoral Commission, and on the list in which they found my name, I was surprisingly one who voted. time was approximately 17 hours
          1. 0
            19 September 2016 23: 23
            When I voted a little later than 18 hours, I was second only to the page of the register of voters. And the people did not stand in line, did not crowd, there was almost nobody, empty tables or one or two on the table (something like in a random photo, i.e. the first one that came across). And when did you just manage to vote so much ?:
            ST. PETERSBURG, September 18, 2016, 20:20 - REGNUM
            By 18:00, the appearance of Petersburgers at the polls for the election of deputies of the federal parliament was 25,67%. The largest number of voters who came to the polls was recorded in the Duma district No. 212 - 26,7%.
            Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2181446.html Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA.
            In St. Petersburg in the State Duma elections by 18:00 979 thousand 124 people voted. This was reported by the secretary of the City Election Commission, Marina Zhdanova, a REGNUM correspondent reports.
    3. +18
      19 September 2016 08: 47
      To fight corruption, we need not appeals, and not finances, but cartridges ......
      1. jjj
        +2
        19 September 2016 10: 15
        Elections have already passed. What to agitate now? People once again expressed their opinion, really showing who is worth what. Past elections can be called a referendum. Now you can change the government and much more to do
        1. AUL
          +5
          19 September 2016 12: 58
          In the end, it will pinch "to the piece of iron." Required. Then, as if by itself, personal criminal liability for political promises and full financial responsibility for economic activities will appear ... Because the alternative to the notion of responsibility is already on the horizon and is called completely obscene, but so far, as grandfather Lenin wrote, the feeling that IT is approaching, has not yet “captured the minds of the masses” ..

          It was for this very case that the National Guard was created, the number of which is already higher than that of the Moscow Region.
          Elections have already passed. What to agitate now? People once again expressed their opinion, really showing who is worth what. Past elections can be called a referendum. Now you can change the government and much more to do

          jjj, do you seriously think so, or are you kidding?
        2. +2
          19 September 2016 19: 36
          Now you can change the government and much more to do

          They will not wait, however ...
          Moreover, none of those who "honestly" are fighting for the "change of power" do not know and do not think about who will replace them, and what they will do and where to steer. "Holy war" with the regime, and then, even though the flood ...
      2. +1
        19 September 2016 19: 26
        To fight corruption, we need not appeals, and not finances, but cartridges ......

        The fight against corruption, the passion for fair elections is just an excuse to finally use the patrons, which is what those who expect any results of any elections in the countries of "their national interests" to warm up the crowd, which they incite and direct towards "their own interests "in a particular country. By a strange coincidence, these "interests" are somehow concentrated around Russia and within Russia.
    4. +2
      19 September 2016 22: 15
      EvgNik Today, 06: 02
      “That is, for the same offense - the higher the status - the more serious the punishment.
      It would be good, but ... deputy immunity and other delights of life that are not available to us. And for the sake of which they strive higher and higher "....

      This deputy immunity also gives rise to a feeling of complete impunity ...
      And how many deputies-thieves their brothers did not allow to arrest, giving time to withdraw their assets and escape abroad ???
      In general - one gang, a gang of unbelievable thieves and loafers who imagined themselves to be an "elite" ...

      I am bent, dishonoring both the people and the state, and not the elite ...
  2. +35
    19 September 2016 06: 05
    United Russia has a "constitutional majority, I congratulate you on the next five-year plan of collapse."
    1. +11
      19 September 2016 09: 36
      The funny thing is that at 22.00 p.m. when 13% or 15% of fictions were calculated, DAM had already congratulated the members of the same party on the victory, even if I would have waited until the morning for decency
      1. +3
        19 September 2016 14: 18
        September 15, what did the VTsIOM show? Now compare the digital and look, they manipulate the whole system, putting the number that is supposedly accurate. Strange coincidences, besides, there are such curious organizations among the customers of C + VITSIOM .. VTsIOM grossly violated article 60 of the law "On the election of deputies of the State Duma." Because he had to name who ordered this survey and who paid for this survey. And who paid for the publication of this survey in the media. This is the duty that is spelled out in the law “On the election of deputies of the State Duma” in article 60 ”
        1. +2
          19 September 2016 22: 25
          Quote: The Bloodthirster
          September 15, what did the VTsIOM show? Now compare the digital and look, they manipulate the whole system, putting the number that is supposedly accurate. Strange coincidences, besides, there are such curious organizations among the customers of C + VITSIOM .. VTsIOM grossly violated article 60 of the law "On the election of deputies of the State Duma." Because he had to name who ordered this survey and who paid for this survey. And who paid for the publication of this survey in the media. This is the duty that is spelled out in the law “On the election of deputies of the State Duma” in article 60 ”


          The main thing in the Russian elections is WHO is our "wizard or sorceress" ... Previously there was Churof, now Panfilkina
        2. 0
          19 September 2016 23: 13
          http://so-l.ru/news/show/vciom_ozvuchil_prognoz_p
          o_viboram_v_gos_po

          Yes, you are our nostradamus. Ugh!
      2. +4
        19 September 2016 17: 51
        And why he was afraid - at the disposal of the EP more than half of the empty ballots of the biomass that did not come to the polls.
        1. 0
          20 September 2016 00: 37
          do you really think that the mouse has a choice between a vaska cat, a murzik cat and a redhead cat? do you really think that there is a choice between shit, shit and poop?
  3. +31
    19 September 2016 06: 11
    EP has never been so close to failure, but a miracle happened! Congratulations to dear oligarchs, you again "honestly" won ...
    1. +18
      19 September 2016 06: 19
      Vladimir Putin visited the United Russia headquarters .. I can add - "A friend saved a friend" ..
    2. +21
      19 September 2016 06: 30
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Congratulations to dear oligarchs, you again "honestly" won ...

      I would also congratulate the president, because his party "won". Congratulations and confused, now the good king has even more bad boyars. You can continue to blame them on all the shoals of the Supreme.
      1. +10
        19 September 2016 08: 04
        Quote: Karabin
        Congratulations and confusion

        Not confused losers (to the comics, PARNAS and other oval) -deep condolences Yes
    3. +14
      19 September 2016 07: 59
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      EP has never been so close to failure, but a miracle happened! Congratulations to dear oligarchs, you won again "honestly"


      EP increased its representation in the State Duma by about 100 deputies, the Communist Party collapsed in 40 seats. Where is even a hint of the failure of EP?
      What are the doubts about the fairness of the election? The fact that not your chosen?
      If there is real facts of violations (and not doubts a la WADA), then sue, write statements.
      Or immediately protest at Bolotnaya with Misha 2% and Tyutukin?
      The people chose EP, it is their right whether someone likes it or not.
      1. +4
        19 September 2016 08: 22
        Quote: Aleksander
        The people chose EP, it is their right whether someone likes it or not.

        Probably for the first time I agree with you. On the next branch there is today's poll on "VO". And I think the victory of "United Russia" is natural.
        Quote: Aleksander
        What are the doubts about the fairness of the election? The fact that not your chosen?

        It depends on what is considered honest. wink
        Well, Zyuganov has already counted a thousand violations. But, "after the fight, they don't wave their fists."
        Try to explain the mathematical paradox. wink
        Before the vote in major cities with millionaires, voter turnout was less, more. belay
        1. 0
          19 September 2016 17: 59
          This "people" simply did not go to the polls. Therefore, these won.
      2. +2
        19 September 2016 09: 11
        Quote: Aleksander
        The people chose EP,

        Quote: Aleksander
        Where is even a hint of the failure of EP?

        laughing laughing laughing
      3. +17
        19 September 2016 10: 19
        Most of the country simply did not go to the polls. Imagine - more than 50 million people! This is a whole European country. These people voted with their feet - against everyone. And there is no need to blame everyone indifferently for indifference and lack of patriotism. The people simply do not believe that anything can be changed in this way, and they do the right thing that they do not believe. "Vote, do not vote, you will still get ... EP". I personally chose a party that was not on the lists called "Got it all"
        1. +1
          19 September 2016 17: 07
          There is still a moral component. The people and population of the Russian Federation unanimously supported the ruling party after the annexation of Crimea, successes in Syria and revival in the world arena of the Russian Federation, which they again began to respect and fear. Liberasts were sent to the same place, according to the experience of the 90s. And the trip to bow to Erdogan to the Kremlin with an apology, for the plane or to anyone did not add pride to the country?
        2. +3
          19 September 2016 17: 56
          But to try weakly, to change something? I also did not vote since the collapse of the Union in general for such reasons. But now there is a question with an edge - either, or. And with this biomass victory over cowardice and indifference, a pack can only be achieved by a general 100% (ideally) vote so that there are no millions of empty ballots at the disposal of this gang.
        3. +1
          19 September 2016 18: 01
          If you have not ruined the newsletter, then you have chosen EP, do not be mistaken.
      4. +1
        19 September 2016 10: 57
        If there are real facts of violations

    4. +4
      19 September 2016 10: 41
      That was a strong feeling that the EP will fly, and therefore changed his habits and went to the polls. Sticks to the wheels flew right away. At the entrance hung agitation for United Russia, and there was no information about where the site was located, no one to ask, Sunday 8 am and it was deserted on the street. I went there where I remember seeing him in the last election, not there, I ask early passers-by, they don’t know, they are looking for it themselves. I’ve gotten a tablet with me, found something like that, voted in order to later see that the alignment has not changed absolutely. Moral: do not change your habits!
      1. +5
        19 September 2016 11: 18
        I read my comment, and fix it too late. It sounds like I was worried that EP would fly by. In fact, I wanted to give her acceleration, I still voted for the Liberal Democratic Party.
      2. +1
        19 September 2016 16: 49
        It’s strange. In our city, papers were scattered with an invitation to the site. Yes, and in the campaign for the candidates there was an invitation to the site with the address.
        Where how.
        Until 2008, he himself was in the election commission. On the site and when submitting to the city commission, everything is clean. To those who like to take a walk and who do not believe in the cleanliness of the elections, I advise you to come to the territorial election committee in advance to apply for participation in the PEC and check. Keep in mind that you won’t sleep at midnight (until 02: 00).
      3. +3
        19 September 2016 18: 09
        I had the same thing. But this feeling passed quickly, I barely saw an almost empty page (except for me only one voted) page of the journal of registration of voting. And therefore, I have big, very big doubts about the victory of EP. He himself voted for the Communist Party, although he was never a communist, age under 70.
        Well, at least one thing - the liberal and other marsh opposition indicated its place. But the feeling of the election is depressing. We were again divorced with almost a hundred parties and cheers-patriotism.
  4. +17
    19 September 2016 06: 14
    Yesterday I already watched the fraud of ballots on a web-camera.
    It’s time to plant all United Russia, we’ll not make a mistake. And remove immunity from everyone to be afraid.
    And also transfer them to a salary with a lump sum allowance. I came up with a law, etc. for the people, get your honestly earned money, and so on for every bit. Instead of sitting in a chair and sleeping on video cameras of the country's leading channels.
    Finish out, because the people will smash them to smithereens.
    1. +14
      19 September 2016 06: 21
      Quote: Delink
      Finish out, because the people will smash them to smithereens

      When it becomes a people again. In the meantime, this is the population.
      1. +3
        19 September 2016 09: 37
        Quote: Karabin
        When it becomes a people again. In the meantime, this is the population.

        no, it is ELECTORATE, not the population ...
    2. +2
      19 September 2016 14: 13
      Quote: Delink
      Yesterday I already watched the fraud of ballots on a web-camera.

      there probably the site was indicated, and Panfilova is waiting for you with specifics, and the observers were present, it seems to me that you are a treacher and a liar
      1. +2
        19 September 2016 18: 22
        https://youtu.be/ABkGTEczOUc - посмотрите, не поленитесь.
        1. +2
          19 September 2016 20: 28
          Quote: NordUral
          look, don't be lazy

          I looked, the case is opened, the results are poached, I hope they will have a mustache, this is not a reason for the indiscriminate approval of falsification, I was in one of the areas from dawn to dusk - neither the stuffing, nor those carousels, and all the candidates from EP and EP itself won with more than twice the advantage in the number of votes to the nearest, by the way, throw a little - you still need to remove this number of real ones or increase the list of voters
          1. 0
            19 September 2016 22: 47
            As for the list of voters, by the way. In the evening, around 20 hours, the number of voters was just over 32%, and in the morning more than 50%. And what kind of nightly voting after the closure of the polls?
            1. +1
              19 September 2016 23: 06
              Quote: NordUral
              As for the list of voters, by the way. In the evening, around 20 hours, the number of voters was just over 32%, and in the morning more than 50%. And what kind of nightly voting after the closure of the polls?

              where was it data from the plots are collected in the territorial commissions then higher up the chain, the official protocols of the plots are not ready before 22 hours, 1400 votes on a particular plot list 570, consider yourself, not a village, not a hinterland, as some people think
  5. +3
    19 September 2016 06: 15
    What allowance should deputies receive from the treasury in order to be absolute and incorruptible patriots of their Fatherland?

    That's how many do not give - denyuzhak is always small. Such is their property.
    1. +11
      19 September 2016 07: 07
      "That's how many don't give - denyuzhak is always small. This is their property."
      Best of all, the situation is clarified by the question: "What should be the salary of Colonel Zakharchenko (who has 8 billion) so that he would refuse bribes?"
      1. +5
        19 September 2016 08: 31
        olimpiada15
        What should be the salary of Colonel Zakharchenko (who has $ 8 billion) in order for him to refuse bribes? "

        This is you ask Medvedev! Legal venturer!
        Who decided that the fight against corruption is to pay corrupt officials a big salary!
        In principle, Medvedev lost this fight! Since he is a small bribe, legalized a large salary. That is, the state itself began to pay bribes, but legally, and take tax from them.
  6. +3
    19 September 2016 06: 17
    The technique is simple, like mooing a cow. You are a deputy, the people believe you that you will do something concrete. Promised - follow. Not fulfilled - abused trust - art. 159, part of 3 - from 3x to 6 - court, Siberia ...

    Nm then what is happiness - let the New Earth be mastered
  7. +13
    19 September 2016 06: 19
    The author is not right, non-revenue-generating activities are called charity, but work, and therefore work, which must be paid. It’s another matter that only fools are sitting in an armchair, and the trouble is that most of them, by the way they do business, should sit elsewhere. This must be fought. And about the payment, they recently chose the head of the house, I agreed only if the people would compensate for my expenses on gas for trips to the courts and the time and time torn from work, all according to checks and open documents, but everyone refused, I'm not ready family budget to tear off a piece of the budget and spend on strangers who themselves are not ready to spend money for their own benefit. According to the author, then I am not a patriot, but the fifth column, but for God's sake.
  8. +7
    19 September 2016 06: 19
    Author! Sit in your Latvia and do not meddle in our affairs!
    If you can’t compare what happened in Yeltsin’s times and what’s now, then you’re no political scientist!
    There are many shortcomings, but what are our deputies worse than "theirs"? This is the essence of democracy, in order to be elected, you must sell yourself to the voters. And this is possible only in two cases - either you are an unprincipled political pr ... ka, or you are very principled and are going to put these principles into practice. Hence the composition of the selected bodies. And we must fight not against the elections as such, but to ensure that they choose normal ones.
    And yesterday, 57 million critics like you did not want to tear your asses off the sofas and influence the composition of elected bodies.
    1. +5
      19 September 2016 07: 52
      and did you vote at the VO before the election? compare the results, so to speak, a small section of popular preferences, and what? how do you like? what is the picture presented by the media, a giant margin of edra, it was necessary to get up, of course, but that's what it changes!
      1. +4
        19 September 2016 08: 24
        I voted for United Russia. It is difficult to call yourself a patriot and support Putin’s actions, but at the same time vote against the party on which he relies. Whoever does this has a mess in his head. you need to be consistent, and not hang ears, listening to those who indiscriminately bark everything.
        1. +6
          19 September 2016 09: 46
          the president relies not only on "United Russia" but also on other parties that WORK for the GOOD OF RUSSIA! all advertising edra-that this is Putin's party. and where are the achievements of "United Russia" for the last convocation ??? I voted for "Rodina" here in Izhevsk I did not see the advertisement of this party at all))) (I know that the party works for the good of our population and is not promoting itself).
          And as for the deputies, I propose that the deputies reduce them to a living wage - and then you can see who wants to work for the good of the motherland with a small salary - he lives by this. reduce the cost of maintaining the cars and the cars themselves (in case of emergency, leave one budget car) - budget savings! Public transport goes to work for the servants of the people, or let them use a personal one and refuel it for their personal sn-like the majority of the people. much more on which you can save the budget in times of crisis. hi
        2. +1
          19 September 2016 14: 28
          and you vote in

          Quote: armored optimist
          I voted for United Russia.

          The number of lovers of Stalin, Lenin and the communist parties at the local party to give out as a section of society - hee, hee, hee, very objectively in the HE or the censor)))
        3. 0
          19 September 2016 18: 18
          [quoteneed to be consistent, and not hang ears, listening to those who indiscriminately whip everything.] [/ quote]
          A good excuse and a lie at the same time. To criticize does not mean to groan indiscriminately.
      2. +4
        19 September 2016 08: 35
        Unfortunately, our VO population does not represent the interests of the whole society. No matter how good it is for us to sit together on one site, we are only part of society.
        And as for the candidates - only the notorious "feces" gets there, upstairs (well, you understand). It was enough for me just a couple of times to walk past the mailbox (I live in St. Petersburg, South-West). The candidates themselves pour mud on each other, hang up propaganda campaigns that such and such a candidate stole votes from such and such a “good, deserved person” last time (fig knows who he is, I don’t know), and they attribute epithets to her. It is like those piglets, like those pigs that push each other and strive for the feeder. And they don't care about the country and, in particular, the opinion of our site visitors. hi
        They planted a newspaper of a certain candidate D. (coming from Yabloko) into the mailbox. On the first page there is a bright slogan: "D. will come - he will put things in order" (does it remind you of anything?) And a picture like this D. with pitchfork (isn't that so, very similar to early Lyashko?) Clears something there from someone there. It became even interesting to read: a young man with a well-fed face, then, approximately: "often participates in search teams. Spends weekends with his family." That is, the standard set that the voter should like ("an athlete, a Komsomol member and just a beauty"). Neither mind, nor imagination, so to speak, can even invent anything new. He turned the newspaper over with disgust. The only plus - you can use it for kindling in the stove, with special pleasure.
        with respect to all hi
    2. +3
      19 September 2016 17: 41
      Those who voted for United Russia realized that they also voted for Ulyukaev, Siluanov, and others like them?
      For the continuation of monetary policy in the economy, which plunged our country into a severe crisis?
      Or do they believe in Putin, in the wise king, who here too will destroy and correct everything?
      Try now to get these people out of government after such a stunning victory.
      This is what worries.

      Paradox - by voting for the party of the super-popular President, the electorate simultaneously voted for the fifth column in power, and the President, for all his popularity, has not yet been able to get rid of them, and even after such a stunning victory, the Government may no longer have to reformat introduce yourself. Or it was not intended.
      Now wait for the price increase for everything from housing and communal services to life support services and education ..
      Thanks to the Armored Optimists ...
      1. 0
        19 September 2016 21: 41
        the king cannot be changed, the moment is not that. But why the king suffers thieves ..
        1. 0
          19 September 2016 22: 32
          Because in proportion. And 16 years to cover thieves and bandits is expensive.
  9. +11
    19 September 2016 06: 25
    Well, as for the elections, I’ll say this, I’ve never gone before that, because believed that everything had already been decided, but then decided to go. On questions from acquaintances, no one voted for edro, except for 2 people, it is involuntarily. One serves in the military on contract, the other in the Ministry of Emergencies. The next election, I would be glad if the people boycotted them completely, there are many other things than participating in a puppet theater with a doll.
  10. +17
    19 September 2016 06: 25
    I won’t ask anyone I know from my friends; no one is voting for United Russia; where do they get such ratings?
    1. +5
      19 September 2016 06: 35
      Where do you get such ratings? And where do you Yulia live? If in the capitals, then this is not all of Russia. And we have the majority of the "zamkadyshes" (some out of stupidity, some forcedly) for the EP and votes.
    2. +5
      19 September 2016 06: 45
      Quote: Aurahjo
      Aurahjo Today, 06:25 AM
      I won’t ask anyone I know from my friends; no one is voting for United Russia; where do they get such ratings?

      similarly ...
    3. +12
      19 September 2016 07: 19
      Quote: Aurahjo
      I won’t ask anyone I know from my friends; no one is voting for United Russia; where do they get such ratings?


      You are wrong, they really vote for Edro. Yesterday I was present at one of the polling stations during the counting of votes (I was on duty to guard the precinct). About 35% voted for edrosov, so the results for the country, I think, are not "inflated".
      But anyway, even kill me, I don’t understand why people choose EP exactly ?!
      1. +8
        19 September 2016 07: 47
        He voted for the Liberal Democratic Party, and two friends for Edro. They explained that against parnassus and apple. I don’t want to go back to the 90s
    4. +5
      19 September 2016 08: 16
      Aurahjo
      I won’t ask anyone I know from my friends; no one is voting for United Russia; where do they get such ratings?

      1. Vote for themselves!
      2. Almost all the governors of United Russia
      3. In Dumas (oblast, regional, city), the majority of United Russia
      4. Putin, Shoigu ....... About them we all say that they are the heroes of Russia! This is of course true, but the flip side, who will say against?
      5. Who will say against Medvedev? Everything is under the control of the prime minister and finances, and not only .......
      Here are the results.
      Yes, United Russia does a lot. Only they have more opportunities than others! Here are the results!
      1. +3
        19 September 2016 09: 58
        The turnout threshold and the "Against all" column were removed. So much for the result.
  11. +7
    19 September 2016 06: 25
    elections elections are candidates ..........
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 09: 47
      There is a wonderful cartoon "South Park", which is a satire on America. In one episode, elections were discussed there, and morality was also derived: “In any election, you always choose between an enema and“ feces ”(there was another word, with the letter D.) Shnurov said the same thing, only with a national flavor. fellow while there is no control over the actions of the "chosen ones", nothing will change.
  12. +1
    19 September 2016 06: 25
    Well written)))
    Why not?
    Quote: EvgNik
    It would be nice, but ... Deputy immunity and other charms of life that are not available to us. And for the sake of which they aspire higher and higher ...

    And let it remain. If they do not send to Siberia)))
  13. +10
    19 September 2016 06: 43
    Mr. Vasiliev! You are right at 1000%. Our elects, receiving such salaries are not responsible for anything. I always ask: What is the difference between a deputy and an oilman? Why does an oilman leaving for a shift do not conceal all relatives (wife, children, mother-in-law), but a deputy drags everyone and at that at the expense of the people. The deputy and his family are obliged to live in the region from which he is elected. He is obliged to monitor how the laws that they adopted work, and their salary should be like the average salary in the region. I think it will be right if the deputies sit for ten days, and come up with laws for twenty days, and monitor how the already adopted ones work in their region. And you can also sit on Skype. Walkers from the people used to be called MPs; they did not live permanently in the capital. And now, who will tell me that some deputy has returned, even after the end of the deputy powers, to his hometown? I think there are none. They and their relatives are already Muscovites. And they spat on their region. This I know from my region. And the author is right. They do not bear responsibility, and the efficiency of their work is scanty.
    1. AUL
      +1
      19 September 2016 13: 22
      Yes, you all think correctly! Yes, and everyone thinks so! But the laws on deputies are adopted by the deputies themselves, and they, as it were, to put it mildly, are not masochists at all (in terms of money, but who - how).
  14. +8
    19 September 2016 06: 44
    Seryoga, you are our writer friend. Well, make it your job to read the Constitution of Russia before writing, well, at least get to page 6 of it, where it says in Russian: "State power in Russia is carried out on the basis of the division into LEGISLATIVE, EXECUTIVE and JUDICIAL. The legislative, executive and judicial authorities are independent. "
    These are the three points of support of the state, take one away and the state will fail ... and cease to exist, most likely you are with it. Do you need it? I'm translating. To whom the State pays, so it steers. Good or bad is another matter. Today, Putin, in the person of United Russia, has a lever of government, do you propose depriving our President of this lever? But both Washington and London, and their hangers-on dream of this ...
    If you are going to write a sequel while sitting at a table, leave two points of support for him or for a chair and sprinkle your scandaleza. I wonder how it will turn out for you?
    1. +7
      19 September 2016 07: 39
      Read the story, many examples of the successful development of states under a single ruler. A completely stable structure at three points of support - the Head of State (with his advice) - the judiciary is a government with legislative functions. You can argue for a long time and tediously about which management model is better, but only those bodies where employees are honest enough will work normally. What we do NOT observe in our state.dumas.
      1. 0
        19 September 2016 16: 09
        Senior Warrant Officer

        Morality should be. Morality, it is necessary to render and educate. No way without her. With morality, the state begins.
      2. 0
        19 September 2016 18: 25
        It's all about the personality of the Ruler.
  15. +7
    19 September 2016 06: 47
    Most of our people are backward in development, at first they voted for Yeltsin as obstinate, now they favor EP, they like a constant increase in prices for everything, poor medicine and the education system, impunity for bribe takers and corrupt officials, a huge difference in the salaries of bosses and subordinates, millions of underdeveloped migrants who commit 80% of the crimes, huge fees of artists, singers, athletes and other characters who have an unnecessary profession that do not bring any benefits. You won’t cook porridge with such a people. Still live in Russia in a mess of 100 years until generations change.
    1. +13
      19 September 2016 07: 19
      Quote: Yak28
      You won’t make porridge with such people. Still Russia will live in a mess of 100 years until generations change.

      Again, the people are to blame? Isn’t that the one you see. Your next proposal will be to build concentration camps with gas chambers? Is that so? The ass had to be torn off the sofa, done. But not moan. Do you see the wrong people. negative
    2. +7
      19 September 2016 07: 51
      Quote: Yak28
      You won’t cook porridge with such people.


      yes, yes, yes ... it's time you change the people ...
    3. +1
      19 September 2016 16: 12
      Yak28

      Why did they destroy the education system?

      And then, so that not the people, but the population would be. Well, there will be no country. Continuous globalism.
  16. +9
    19 September 2016 06: 48
    I don’t even want to comment. After each election, the same indignation, but often hear - I did not go to the polls, it is useless, because everything has already been decided. A legitimate question arises - since you yourself are not going to the polls, then what kind of indignation. This is me about a certain category of citizens and of course this does not apply to all.
    1. +3
      19 September 2016 08: 19
      rotmistr60 A legitimate question arises - since you yourself are not going to the polls, then what kind of indignation.
      And we even have those who walk, are divided into two groups:
      1. "For"
      2. "Don't mind"
      Well, in general, arithmetic addition is obtained!
  17. +4
    19 September 2016 07: 09
    I agree, in principle, with everything except one - leave Siberia and Magadan alone, there are enough of their "leaders". Literally today, the bosses of the entire department announced: "There will be no quarter - all the money went to the elections" (!!!!) Well, we were neighing, of course, - yeah, at the elections, how ... have already gone crazy ... found something to hide behind.
  18. +3
    19 September 2016 07: 16
    To begin with, the candidate must be returned to the electoral lists "against all" ... Then there will be responsibility before the voters ... the fear that you may not get to the trough ... and not be re-elected ...
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 08: 27
      parusnik
      To begin with, the candidate must be returned to the electoral lists "against all" ... Then there will be responsibility before the voters ... the fear that you may not get to the trough ... and not be re-elected ...

      It won’t bring any benefit !.
      More than half will bet "Against all!" Since it doesn't matter, few people think!
      An example - they have pensioners as they want! So what? How does it affect? As pensioners voted, I vote, with a difference of + -10% of the Communist Party, LDPR, SR, EP.
      And the responsibility for what will appear? Assessment is not given to a person, but to a game according to the average indicator! And average: satisfactory!
  19. +1
    19 September 2016 07: 16
    Quote: Yak28
    Most of our people are backward in development, at first they voted for Yeltsin as obstinate, now they favor EP, they like a constant increase in prices for everything, poor medicine and the education system, impunity for bribe takers and corrupt officials, a huge difference in the salaries of bosses and subordinates, millions of underdeveloped migrants who commit 80% of the crimes, huge fees of artists, singers, athletes and other characters who have an unnecessary profession that do not bring any benefits. You won’t cook porridge with such a people. Still live in Russia in a mess of 100 years until generations change.
    1. +5
      19 September 2016 07: 19
      Not every deputy candidate is a thief, a fraudster and a corrupt official, but every deputy is all.
  20. +11
    19 September 2016 07: 26
    Ella Pamfilova turned out to be an even greater sorceress !!!
    In all the news on Sunday, the turnout in the regions was transmitted at the level of 30-32%, and in the morning a miracle happened - for fifty.
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 14: 52
      Quote: SarS
      Ella Pamfilova turned out to be an even greater sorceress !!!
      In all the news on Sunday, the turnout in the regions was transmitted at the level of 30-32%, and in the morning a miracle happened - for fifty.

      you don’t know, but balabolite - people walked right up to the closure of sites, information is being collected gradually
    2. 0
      19 September 2016 18: 28
      Right Apparently grandfather handed her a magic pipe.
      1. +1
        19 September 2016 20: 35
        Quote: NordUral
        Right Apparently grandfather handed her a magic pipe.

        about! another balabol, specifically what is when 30-32% transmitted? and at 10 in the morning it was even less
  21. +6
    19 September 2016 07: 26
    The deputies fenced themselves with such a reinforced concrete security fence that they could not be picked out from there in any way. And they rush into the deputy with frenzy, because it is profitable and safe, anyway, how to get to heaven and, most importantly, absolutely no responsibility. Although, in fairness, it should be noted that there are working people's deputies. The effectiveness of the work of the Duma of the past convocation is not very high for the people and the state. But basically, with rare exceptions, only abusive expressions are addressed to the Duma. IMHO.
  22. +11
    19 September 2016 07: 28
    I can’t believe that people really voted for bureaucratic-oligarchic lawlessness. Now forget about the progressive tax. The oligarchs will transfer the entire burden to the already not rich Russians. Tariffs of natural monopolies will continue to rise, and so will inflation. There will be an increase in taxes and the appearance of new levies instead of increasing efficiency. And, accordingly, an increase in the number of parasites in the state apparatus, that is, officials. Listen, maybe the results are correct, they just reflect the number of officials in the country? Can’t people in a sober mind and firm memory so shit themselves?
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 09: 55
      When considering which category of voters for whom it turned out, it turned out that the female part of voters mainly voted for United Russia. Something is wrong with our women!
      1. +1
        19 September 2016 11: 49
        Quote: uskrabut
        When considering which category of voters for whom it turned out, it turned out that the female part of voters mainly voted for United Russia. Something is wrong with our women!

        Leave the women alone. We were no less than yours got the shamelessness of the top of EdRo.
        The only way to protect yourself from the use of administrative resources, stuffing, etc. I see in a roll-call - so that everyone can verify in the results whether their vote is real.
        Here was a recording from a surveillance camera. We ask ourselves a question - did the commission members really not know that the electronic eye was watching? And why did a couple cover the ballot box (from people, not from the camera), and the other fool popped ballots? ..
        1. 0
          19 September 2016 18: 31
          Most likely I didn’t know about this camera.
      2. 0
        19 September 2016 18: 30
        This is not so with us men.
  23. +10
    19 September 2016 07: 34
    This summer I was traveling from Odintsovo to the airport by taxi. We talked with the taxi driver, the man became painful - he escaped from deputy slavery (he was the personal driver of one). He worked for days: rolling himself, two children in an elite establishment, a wife for shopping, a wife's mom, there were two more roofing felts, three roofing lovers for maintenance.
    There are five personal cars in the gentlemen's garage. Pets prefer not to ride on their own, There are still a lot of servants and security guards in the house.
    1. +4
      19 September 2016 09: 52
      Quote: SarS
      to ride, two children in an elite institution, a wife for shopping, a wife's mom, there were two more roofing felts, three lovers toli content


      You see, what a person has a vibrant and diverse life activity, he simply does not have time to deal with state issues
  24. +6
    19 September 2016 07: 54
    A wonderful article and topic raised up to date. For a long time the conversation has been going to make the parliament a purely voluntary undertaking. And that would be right. A thief would have drunk less there, no doubt.
    1. +3
      19 September 2016 09: 50
      Yeah! Thieves would massively commit suicide! wassat
      1. 0
        19 September 2016 11: 52
        Quote: uskrabut
        Yeah! Thieves would massively commit suicide! wassat

        But it would be nice ... Oh, dreams, dreams - where is your sweetness ...
        1. AUL
          +1
          19 September 2016 13: 32
          Thieves would just be the pearl for immunity and the ability to steal even more. But a pensioner at his own expense could no longer work there.
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  26. +4
    19 September 2016 08: 06
    Voted for EP!
    To take away from the president the instrument - and the lever - of state governance: a blue dream a) Poroshenko (first of all) b) Obama c) well, and so on - according to the list ... long-and-and-such!
    The tool, of course, is shitty, and even as a lever it is crooked ... But - to create a new one, it takes time! and strength ... and money ... and people ... and much more!
    Do you have them? with us ... with them ...
    First of all, there is no time; The West is ahead of us in everything! As for the rest - time will tell ... which we do not have ...
    1. +2
      19 September 2016 08: 19
      Who is whose tool is still a big question. Perhaps you did him a disservice.
      1. +4
        19 September 2016 11: 56
        Quote: Jarilo
        Who is whose tool is still a big question. Perhaps you did him a disservice.

        When yesterday I looked at Putin's face and eyes, I got the impression that he was not very happy with the victory of United Russia (at that time less than 9% of the votes were processed). But Medvedev was openly triumphant.
        1. +1
          19 September 2016 16: 31
          Kahlan


          The same impression.
    2. +2
      19 September 2016 08: 29
      CONTROL:
      But my opinion was that in our country (in power) it is not the dog that twists its tail, but the tail of the dog.
      At least in the last four years, I have become more convinced of this.
  27. +8
    19 September 2016 08: 06
    What deputies should receive allowances from the treasury to be absolute and incorruptible patriots of their homeland? How much budget money for yourself, a loved one, to spend correctly, and how much is already indecent? What does a modesty policy look like in absolute numbers?

    Good question!
    And the answer should be like that!
    The deputy is the chosen one of the people! And work should not give priority to money! and the people!
    And for what, in principle, are we choosing? To make life better!
    And it turns out We elect them, They vote for their salaries, for their benefits! And to us - "there are holes in the budget!"
    Life, of course, is getting better ....... Not with us, but with them!
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 09: 48
      People in Russia began to live better (the list is attached)
      1. 0
        19 September 2016 11: 30
        uskrabut
        People in Russia began to live better (the list is attached)

        By the list did you mean ballots ??
    2. +3
      19 September 2016 16: 54
      Ruswolf

      Some of you have not healthy pathetics.

      Once again, you have chosen those whom you should have removed from power. So what do you want? Make wolves eat cabbage?

      Putin guaranteed you the election. Why did you slip him these thieves again? How can he again manage the country with this thieves?

      40% did not come to the polls ...

      You have again given your country to be torn apart. Herd for wolves.
      1. +1
        20 September 2016 08: 05
        Gladcu2 Putin guaranteed you elections

        And so they took place! What is the question then?
        Once again, you have chosen those whom you should have removed from power.

        So everyone voted for the party! In the hope that the Central Committee of the parties will restore order and then in the country. What is the second question then?
        40% did not come to the polls ...

        These are those who would vote “Against all,” but this column was not in the ballots.
        What is the third question then?
        You have again given your country to be torn apart.

        They would give it to the mercy, and eslibs continued to bend under the EU and America!
        What is the fourth question then?
        Herd for wolves.

        Only for some reason this is a "herd" ... All of Europe and North America are afraid! Only heard: Russian threat! We will be defeated! Give money to the defense industry defense industry!
        Somehow it does not fit!

        In general, a herd - a herd of discord. Even a lion is afraid of a water buffalo!

        And the Wolf among the Slavs was a sacred beast and the Slavs did not hunt wolves!
        This is all from Europe! In general, like everything bad in Russia!
  28. +7
    19 September 2016 08: 15
    as Mark Twain said: If anything depended on the people, who would allow it before the election?
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 09: 45
      This is the ultimate truth. Elections are just a show for the public. There are lots of technologies for managing public consciousness. Approximately 50% of people lend themselves to external management. The voting results are a vivid confirmation of this.
      1. +2
        19 September 2016 17: 21
        guzik, uskrabut

        What are you saying nonsense. 40% did not come to the polls. These are those who do not trust the authorities. You are guaranteed to be given the right to remove this party. So why didn’t you exercise your right?

        The president guaranteed you the right to remove those who stole during the construction of the cosmodrome. Why didn’t you do it?

        What do you want from your president?

        If you are for yourself, can’t you stand a simple vote?

        A shame.
        1. 0
          19 September 2016 21: 04
          Quite right! Then even here, at VO, there will be hundreds of indignations about the next cosmodrome, golden colonels, initiatives of Ulyukaev, Siluanov, Medvedev, etc., when one says "there is no money, but you hold on," economy, the "Platon" system will get to cars (there are lamps on the instrument for each category of vehicles), the next farmers will be put in the asphalt with their muzzles. And those who have not taken their butt off the couch will be to blame for this.
          Also, the impression was that V.V. Putin was not particularly pleased last night when he arrived at Medvedev’s headquarters. But Medvedev already bloomed.
  29. +8
    19 September 2016 08: 17
    I was both surprised and not surprised at the same time. Everything was done in full accordance with PR technologies. The protest was taken apart by small parties, the President joined the PR campaign for United Russia. In general, some of the people were bourgeois and did not come to the elections. 40% turnout is certainly not enough. Our American "partners" are probably more than satisfied, their plan is working 100%. Bribe-takers and embezzlers came to power again.
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 17: 24
      Altona

      President, did not connect to PR, EP.
    2. +1
      19 September 2016 21: 39
      Quote: Altona
      40% turnout is certainly not enough

      Zyuganov overheard? or what is not 50 then 40?
  30. +4
    19 September 2016 08: 30
    Panfilova sorceress steeper than Churova. Straight fairy for thieves and crooks.
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 11: 59
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      Panfilova sorceress steeper than Churova. Straight fairy for thieves and crooks.

      Fairy godmother. wink
  31. +2
    19 September 2016 08: 45
    Quote: CONTROL
    Voted for EP!
    To take away from the president the instrument - and the lever - of state governance: a blue dream a) Poroshenko (first of all) b) Obama c) well, and so on - according to the list ... long-and-and-such!

    -----------------------------------
    Well done, what. I gave the levers to the embezzlers, now don't cry for prices and everything else. Yesterday, for example, I looked at the salary of one "lever" candidate from the United Russia and until I counted the numbers in his salary, I still did not understand that he had it 2 million 227 thousand with some kind of kopeck.
    Here it is, in all its glory http://chuvashiya.livejournal.com/538756.html
  32. +4
    19 September 2016 09: 16
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Quote: Aurahjo
    Aurahjo Today, 06:25 AM
    I won’t ask anyone I know from my friends; no one is voting for United Russia; where do they get such ratings?

    similarly ...

    The same situation. The most frequent answer to the question about the elections is "Fuck them!"
    The people voted for Putin, not for United Russia.
    A turnout is a verdict of the authorities. As an indicator, large turnout in the elections were in non-Russian regions (where there are only excellent students in the USE). In Russian regions, the elections were ignored.
    It's time for Putin to think. And look around.
    I did not vote for United Russia, but I admit their victory. The people have the power that they choose and deserve.
  33. +12
    19 September 2016 09: 16
    The communists have long suggested making a so-called "rating" page for each deputy, that is, each citizen receives a "digital signature" and through the "state services" website at a certain time (for example, once a year) visits the page of one or another deputy and assigns points "for "and" against "as soon as the number of" against "exceeds the number of" for "the deputy is automatically deprived of his seat. Moreover, on the "rating" page, all information about the deputy should be displayed - his income, how many laws he adopted, how many meetings he attended, how many "walkers" he received and from whom, what legislative and other "initiatives" he made, how he voted and for what reason and so on and so forth. But you yourself understand that everyone in the Duma greeted this proposal with smiles and did not even take into consideration the type of "system" we have had not yet matured to that ...
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 09: 37
      And never grows
      1. AUL
        +1
        19 September 2016 13: 40
        What do you think that the Dumaki will give you the opportunity to tear them from the sweet sisi? Well, you and a naive person!
  34. +8
    19 September 2016 09: 26
    Anecdote to the topic!
  35. +1
    19 September 2016 09: 33
    Who should live well in Russia? Asked once Nekrasov.
    The answer is still the same. And this applies, of course, not only to Russia, but to the entire former USSR.
  36. +4
    19 September 2016 09: 36
    A very interesting message to readers! Ready to vote for every word in this article. But there is BUT. For the realization of the aspirations of the author, it is necessary that the chief is a statesman above the bosses. And this has already happened in our history - this is Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. True, after his death, the followers did not possess that mentality of statesmen and discredited his good name, so that they themselves would at least somehow look more solid.
    I agree with the author that the deputy should not receive any fees from the state or from other persons for his activities, if received, he will be charged with corruption. But the chosen ones themselves will never give up state money; some kind of initiative group is needed here to organize a referendum, in any other way.
    And a little laugh:
    Statement
    I ask, in addition to an allowance for harmfulness, to pay me also an allowance for greed and laziness.
    [i] [/ i]
    1. 0
      19 September 2016 11: 07
      A very interesting message to readers! Ready to vote for every word in this article. But there is BUT. For the realization of the aspirations of the author, it is necessary that the chief is a statesman above the bosses. And this has already happened in our history - this is Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.

      But how much can you recall Stalin? No matter how good or bad he is, he is not eternal. Why do governments in rotting and unspiritual America and Geyrope care for the people without Stalin, and in the prosperous spiritual countries of the CIS they only care for themselves, feeding the people with promises of a bright future, dumping the country's problems on external enemies?
      1. +4
        19 September 2016 12: 13
        Quote: 0255
        But how much can you recall Stalin? No matter how good or bad he is, he is not eternal. Why do governments in rotting and unspiritual America and Geyrope care for the people without Stalin, and in the prosperous spiritual countries of the CIS they only care for themselves, feeding the people with promises of a bright future, dumping the country's problems on external enemies?

        The so-called social system (caring for the people) "... in decaying and spiritless America and Geyrope ..." appeared as a reaction to the successes of the USSR in this matter. It is only thanks to the Soviet regime that Europe now has (still has) good social security. People in the West saw a real example of an attempt to build a society of social justice and fought for their rights in the same way. Or do you think that "moneybags" voluntarily and out of philanthropy reduced the working day and increased wages?
      2. 0
        19 September 2016 18: 58
        As for taking care of the people in the West - this is already in the past, like the USSR, the headache of the West and the reason for this concern. Now there is no Union, there is no reason for concern, which is observed on both sides of the Atlantic.
        1. 0
          19 September 2016 21: 03
          There is no union, but the headache on both sides of the Atlantic remains and this headache is the same Russia. Then the head ached from the fact that they dared to arrange social justice, and now they show what independence is. In Europe, those who do not understand this very well.
    2. +2
      19 September 2016 17: 32
      uskrabut

      The salary of a deputy should not exceed 3 x the average salary of employees in the region.

      For free, nobody will spend their life time. You need to live on something.

      What do you constantly say not to hit? Did you get their salaries? Late already ... They spit ALREADY, in your opinion.
  37. +1
    19 September 2016 09: 41
    I want to meet briefly - pay and fly! Pay, not a VIP room for a state account for me and my entire retinue ... Believe me, when canceling flights financed from the budget, the number of places where you need to be “nosebleed” is sharply reduced. [Quote] [/ quote]
  38. +10
    19 September 2016 09: 41
    Quote: Barkhan
    The people voted for Putin, not for United Russia.

    -------------------------
    And in the end he voted for Medvedev, Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Gref and Chubais. Apparently, they are still not pressing the "overhaul", a one-time payment instead of indexation, freezing the funded part of the pension, raising prices. You hold on there, all the best to you!
  39. +4
    19 September 2016 09: 51
    I would like to know why the servants of the people drive around on official cars at the expense of taxpayers? After all, we all go to work for our money. Yes, give them expensive foreign cars. And if they are transplanted to our machines, will they work worse?
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 17: 34
      Vodila

      Because they are chosen. And they are not servants. They are the masters.
  40. +6
    19 September 2016 10: 57
    Totally right. I subscribe to every word. What we have today - the poor look. how millionaires who do not know how to connect 2 words competently play football, and the poor pay the chic conditions again to millionaires who, supposedly, went into thought to solve their problems. But they decide only their own - they remember the promises a week before the election and run again to promise ...
  41. +3
    19 September 2016 11: 01
    "The author, do not rock the boat, otherwise it will be like in Ukraine, the State Department and Obama are to blame for everything, but nothing, nothing - America is about to fall apart, then we will live" - ​​the Russian and our Belarusian deputies will say and with a clear conscience will go to steal farther sad
  42. 0
    19 September 2016 11: 45
    The patriotism of our deputies is practically priceless, no matter how much you pay, they will surrender the country anyway, and they have no right to take responsibility for their activities. In fact, all their activities are aimed at filling their pockets with money and extending their golden age. They are thieves and criminals but protected by law and this is an amazing fact ... Why do we need such happiness ...!? The country of birth is not chosen ...
  43. +3
    19 September 2016 12: 47
    EP for. Someone for a long time will not creep into another armored car or tank to destroy Russia. Even so acceptable. Yes. I like the way they jumped out of the “phantoms” in October 73, fleeing our weapons. Check out the losers forever. Here I am waiting for the cons, but no.
    1. AUL
      +1
      19 September 2016 13: 46
      Grandfather, now say the same thing, but in Russian.
    2. 0
      19 September 2016 19: 01
      Who are you talking about, grandfather?
  44. +3
    19 September 2016 14: 20
    Quote: uskrabut
    People in Russia began to live better (the list is attached)

    ----------------------------
    "United Russia" on party lists received only 140 votes (the result of 54% of votes cast for it), 203 votes are the past oneandos. Voting takes place for 225 deputies on party lists and for 225 single-mandates. That is, in single-mandate constituencies, United Russia practically won as well. What kind of "heart" was it necessary to vote for the "assemblage point". Okay, wha. Now we will endure for 5 years. From 2011 to 2015, with 3,5% growth, we received a 4% decline in production. People hawala, the bosses steer. Pensioners 4% indexation, the oligarch 146% profit, the country is in crisis, there is no money. And there are no words either.
    1. +1
      19 September 2016 17: 50
      Well, the howl has begun .... Gentlemen, they don’t wave their fists after the fight! The election results were predictable .... What kind of violations were of course, but all for garlic! The LDPR did pretty aggressive advertising, but almost the same, everything remained .. The people were tired of squabbles and a change of power! Let's calm down, Russia has big problems ahead ... We need to stick together and that’s it!
  45. 0
    19 September 2016 18: 32
    Not that. All wrong. How rejoiced all the elect. You might think that their job is not honey. To steal do nothing and disturb the people on all fronts.
  46. 0
    19 September 2016 18: 43
    Quote: vovanpain
    Is it the people’s fault again? Isn’t that the one you see. Your next proposal will be to build concentration camps with gas chambers? Is that so? Did you have to tear your ass off the couch, do it, and not moan. negative

    And where are the concentration camps? And where are the gas chambers? You’re a sick person, a bright representative of our non-thinking majority. And what should I tear my ass from? I work and earn enough for life. And where did I moan? Are you my friend and I’m the representative of the wrong thinking with their brains of the people, thank you Crank for confirming my words wink
  47. +1
    19 September 2016 19: 06
    Once in Odnoklassniki, someone posted a photo of the newspaper MK in 2011 with the promises of United Russia to fulfill a whole bunch of proposals to improve the life of the people, to adopt a lot of laws for the same, and as a result ... Now before the elections in advertising prospectuses of candidates for deputies from this party, the list of promises is practically the same. And how to understand all this? It turns out that they "hang noodles" on our ears? Like, people are eating! Shaval, since they won. Once again, the people (I did not vote for "United Russia", I vote only for the Communist Party) were duped! But no one thought that by voting for this party, they were voting for the Medvedev government with ministers Ulyukaev, Siluanov, Medynsky and others who were stigmatized before the elections and who would continue the liberal course. it turns out - what we fought for, we ran into it !!! Well, what about the promises? So grind with your tongue, do not roll bags!
  48. +2
    19 September 2016 19: 20
    Those who write that the elections are fair and the turnout is beautiful - burn in hell .... I voted for the Communist Party at about 15-00. The on the sheet in the list was the only one. Moreover, the woman, while she found me, leafed through several pages - they are either empty, or with one signature, like mine. A neighbor, a pensioner of 80 years, was promised to bring a ballot box. Of course not brought. Voted for Marya Ivanovna.
    Consolidate around a bunch of rich snickering shit? Only in case of war. And it is still unknown who will get the first bullet there ...

    P.S. The Romanian flag got stuck near the nickname. Saratov is still in the Russian Federation.
    1. +4
      19 September 2016 19: 27
      At 12 00, I have a joke in my sheet where my house is registered, who have voted a dozen by force, because my data is not there. All on extra lists.
      Dad, I made a request that they would come to his house, wait .. so they didn’t come, where did the ballot go?
      On the vastness of INETA, I also found such an opinion - "Putin lost the elections - pay attention to his face.
      His hands are now tied to change the economic course and sweep the government from the liberals.
      But Medvedev, the liberal government and the Central Bank, on the contrary, are untied.
      They received carte blanche from the voters for shock therapy, i.e. to a sharp reduction in budget expenditures, which Kudrin insisted on.
      Now wait:
      - raising the retirement age;
      - freeze indexation of pensions;
      - the elimination of benefits for the unemployed and the refusal of their medical care (Matvienko has already promised);
      - the budget from January 1 will be balanced by reducing social spending and spending on health and education;
      - commercialization of health care and education, a decrease in the share of state funding;
      - devaluation of the ruble in order to save funds of the reserve fund;
      - tightening the budget rule in order to increase the reserve fund and, accordingly, investments in Amer. T-bills;
      - toughening of juvenile legislation;
      -- etc.
      Another consequence of the total victory of United Russia and its leader Medvedev is that it was he who now became the No. 1 candidate for the 2018 presidential election! And not Putin at all. This will be confirmed by the fact that Putin will gradually begin to go into the shadows (to be removed from power), and Medvedev will take more and more power for himself. "
      1. +1
        19 September 2016 19: 55
        Putin’s successor, Vladimir Vladimirovich, is Dyumin Aleksey Gennadievich, gaining experience in the Tula region.
        Do not tell Medvedev, or you’ll quarrel (just kidding).
  49. +4
    19 September 2016 19: 24
    “Well, ass again!” And it will continue until it is pressed completely or until completely bored.

    It will be bad if such a state of affairs annoys everyone. Then there will be a real ASS. By this scientific term I understand the situation when the majority of citizens will take an active part in the riots, while perfectly understanding that:
    1 - For each of the protesters, this can be very expensive. The consequences can be very serious, even fatal.
    2 - Most rebels will be well aware that any revolution does not improve, but worsens, the standard of living of the vast majority of the population, worsens the criminal situation, and leads to economic ruin.
    3 - Even seeing the example of Ukraine in front of him, the majority will still take part in the riots, realizing that other, more shameless, might take the place of previous thieves.
    4 - Most of the protesters will be aware that the consequences of the riots will take advantage of external forces, which, to put it mildly, are bad for the fact that Russia exists on the world map.

    Now, if the desire to personally outweigh on the walls of the Kremlin the power of those who hold will in the minds of the majority outweigh the negative consequences of the above 4 points, then this will be the real asshole.
    Glory to the Creator, that this situation is still very far away. But what the hell is not joking. While maintaining the current domestic policy, anything can happen ...

    "Why am I against universal suffrage"

    "I agree with Aramis" (C). For two reasons.
    1 - The majority of the population is not competent in matters of state administration. If you do not use the appropriate political technologies, the population will choose the stomach and / or the one who is prettier.
    2 - Most people elected did not learn to rule the state. Therefore, decisions will not be made by deputies, but by professional experts, whom no one has chosen and who are preparing decisions made by deputies. And the experts will be manipulated by the one who pays them a salary. And there is no need to hope that having asked a lot of experts, you can make the right decision. If the decision maker is not competent in the topic, then even 100 experts will not help him. It is clear that one of the experts will moderate this entire bazaar. And not the fact that the people elected will know who it is.

    For those who do not believe in an honest victory for the EP. I have to disappoint you, dear colleagues. The prestige of the President, earned by him on the foreign policy front, was thrown on the side of the scales where the weight of the United Russia was lying. And it's clear why. The President already knows these people. It is convenient for him to work with them. And now is not the time to "change horses". Another thing is that some of these "horses" would be nice to use for "sausage".
    However, there are bright moments. By some signs, the President himself understands this very well.
    1. +5
      19 September 2016 19: 36
      Normally, the elections have passed ... We are working on! And for those who want to undermine Russia ... Lord gangsters will not work!

      Trying in vain!
      1. +1
        19 September 2016 21: 35
        Kindergarten ... Hooray, we are breaking, Swedes are bending ... In my life I did not think that the poor were bandits. Now I will know. I do not know what world you live in. I want to tell abominations - it stops the ban and a little upbringing.
        1. 0
          20 September 2016 20: 59
          Quote: Moody
          Kindergarten ... Hooray, we are breaking, Swedes are bending ... In my life I did not think that the poor were bandits. Now I will know. I do not know what world you live in. I want to tell abominations - it stops the ban and a little upbringing.

          You obviously don't live in Russia ....! those who were in the "authority" of many in the 90s shot many, and those who remained they were just like that and became ...! And the wave was caught by the Abramovich and Khodorkovsky (the most arrogant was and got it in full)))
          And how I want you to explain everything purely in Russian ....! You can’t imagine it just ...
          "Shut up, shameful Europe ..."
          1. +1
            22 September 2016 20: 44
            I have lived in Russia since birth, in the city of Saratov, and I am not "sixteen" years old. I saw everything, both the 80s and 90s. Because of the blinkeredness and belief in EdRo, you did not understand this? I'm sorry ... You your slogans, do you know where to put yourself? I’m watching your slogans about the unification of the country and faith in the future with Yeltsin and Gorbachev. My grandfather died because of you, Putinites and Yeltsinoids, Chubais and Medvedevs. First, they destroyed the country, and then the loudest shouts of "stop the thief" .... He wants to explain to me, purely in Russian .. Come, I'll chew you ...
  50. +1
    19 September 2016 19: 57
    Gorgeous article! You can offer the newly elected deputies as a program for the implementation of what they promised the people. Especially the idea of ​​expanding the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on fraud to cover those who do not fulfill their election promises. They may well promote in the Duma a rationalization proposal to use modern means of communication at home instead of sitting in Moscow with truancy and flights. So there will be funds for at least partial fulfillment of election promises. And in this situation, expenses on election campaigns will be significantly reduced. Whoever, for his hard-earned, "overworked" means, will strive for the deputy chair, if he has to answer for his work.
  51. 0
    19 September 2016 20: 00
    I already wrote here on another thread, let me write here too. If you didn’t go to the polls, don’t whine; if you voted for a united Russia, don’t whine.
  52. 0
    19 September 2016 20: 22
    Voting in Tatarstan... https://vk.com/wall-101630119_53 This is how our party in power is gaining votes.
  53. +1
    19 September 2016 20: 27
    Quote: The Bloodthirster
    On the vastness of INETA, I also found such an opinion - "Putin lost the elections - pay attention to his face.

    I also noticed that Putin was wearing a black shirt, and Medvedev was wearing a white one. I hope these aren't role-playing games.
  54. +3
    19 September 2016 21: 48


    The quintessence of elections. Every joke has some humor in it.
  55. +1
    19 September 2016 22: 12
    Well, the man spoke out... And there’s nothing to say...
    This has been creeping and simmering and stewing in everyone’s head for a long time...
    All we hear is “there is no money”... Problems... The budget is out of balance, we need to cut, cut, cut...
    And this is in such a rich country (yes, don’t laugh) like Russia...
    How many of these worthless little people are sitting on people’s necks, absolutely unnecessary to either the people or the state, from whom nothing but harm...
    In general, the article is a huge, fair plus.
  56. 0
    20 September 2016 04: 36
    Good article and correct. I absolutely agree 1000 percent, I liked your phrase “not yet possible”, it’s key.
  57. +1
    20 September 2016 06: 41
    I read the Comments..... If someone is not happy with something, go into politics, become deputies of local councils, Legislative Assemblies, etc., change it as you want, and whining that everyone is Pi...s is already enough. If you like communist ideas - replace Zyuganov, “correct” liberals - move Yavlinsky.... If you don’t like Putin - run for president, everything is in your power, whoever prevents you from joining any party and leading it or becoming a leader.... Everyone whines and continues to sit on the sofas and kitchens and.........., go change the government from within and there are also examples of those who go and change, but there are only a few of them.
  58. 0
    20 September 2016 08: 29
    Yes, the people are growing wilder and wilder, in our brigade of 16 people, 3 voted!!!! And this is after they simply cheat with salaries and impose tariffs on them. Moreover, many understand that the authorities (in the economic part) simply left everything to chance, and sometimes even in collusion with criminals. Everyone has one excuse - “everything has already been decided” But damn... getting your ass off the zombie box or computer is not a real task. Of course, everything is decided if 2/3 of the “electorate” (what a vile word) is not able to get off their ass. Apparently life suits us, we are moving towards capitalism with a communist face, the slogans are different, but the essence is the same, to plunge the people into complete lack of rights. And let the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the Liberal Democratic Party understand that it’s one thing to see from the screens, but working with the people is completely different, read Lenin - he destroyed the entire Empire without the Internet and other modern devices, and the Fuhrer created the Reich out of nowhere. Going to the people is not driving a Mercedes to a debate......
  59. 0
    20 September 2016 09: 23
    Today I came across some information...
    Although it's late, it's appropriate...
    SALARIES OF DEPUTIES IN THE USSR AND RF
    Yes, if anyone didn’t know, deputies in the USSR worked in their specialties, without having any salary for their deputy activities. The salary on the poster is per year. True, this deputy salary is already outdated and somewhat less than today...


    http://d90.mirtesen.ru/blog/43567735460/Zarplatyi
    -deputatov-v-SSSR-i-RF?utm_campaign=transit&utm_s
    ource=main&utm_medium=page_2&domain=mirtesen.ru&p
    aid=1&pad=1
  60. 0
    21 September 2016 05: 40
    Representative democracy is, in general, a complete fraud. Well, how should I choose someone from the hill just because he speaks beautifully??? In general, I am a fan of the work "Ticket to Planet Tranai"!!! Something like this! And somehow I missed it lately, what about Mukhin’s idea about AVN?
  61. +1
    21 September 2016 16: 12
    Why is this dashing and far from poor people ready to make their country happy only at state expense? And for your weakness?

    Well, you give. They have a “state account” - it’s only “for ice cream” - if they lose it, they won’t suffer much. The main thing there is lawmaking: every line of money. You talk about responsibility, but you want too much from this democratic institution. In our government, NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING. And this is a body where it’s not “promised and done”, but “ordered and fulfilled”... well, that’s how it should be.

    Somewhere A.A. Shchelokov (writer) came across a surprisingly accurate term - “parasitization”. This is when a person at a certain level of power begins to perform not even leadership, but only representative functions, and others do (or do not do) the work for him. He wrote this about the party elite of the 60-70-80s.

    Only they didn’t grab it like they do now. Now they go to power and make a career, not in order to get things done. And to “grab” and “parasitize” from the heart. Something like that.

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