New missiles and gun complex for a multi-purpose fighter T-50

Boris Obnosov, CEO of Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation, told the media that the corporation is working on the creation of fundamentally new missiles for the newest Russian multi-role fighter (5-generation aircraft) T-50. According to Boris Obnosov, by the 2017, the T-50 aircraft will receive six new missiles, and by the 2020, six more.

Such a statement was made by the Director General of Tactical Missiles Corporation for the magazine of the United Aircraft Building Corporation. ” "Horizons".

Boris Obnosov:

The T-50 will receive six radically new missiles by the year 2017, and six more by the 2020 year. Four samples of missiles located inside the fuselage have already been created and are being tested.

This is very encouraging. newsespecially considering the fact that already in October of this year, the T-50 aircraft will receive the newest engine of the so-called “second stage”. This was previously reported Interfax, referring to the Deputy Director General of "Rostec" Vladimir Artyakov. At the moment, pilot operations at the T-50 are held on the engines of the "first stage".

The UAC press service informs about the tests of the NNPU-50 gun mount for the T-50 fighter. Tests are carried out at the proving ground aviation systems price Faustovo | The installation includes one of the lightest guns in its class - 9-A1-4071K.

Of messages corporations:

The 9-А1-4071К gun is capable of striking almost all modern armored targets. In the course of one departure, when using the full ammunition, 150 shells of 30 caliber of millimeters - high-explosive / incendiary (OFZ) and armor-piercing-incendiary (BZ) can be used.

Gun 9-A1-4071K was the further development of 30-millimeter single-barrel aircraft cannon GSH-301, which were equipped with Russian MiG-29, 27-Su, Su-30, 33-Su and Su 35, as well as front-line bombers and planes vertical takeoff and landing of the Yak-38.

Video test guns for T-50 presented on REFERENCE.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

So you need to test, pass, build the required amount, and then report. And then some promises.

[Pajamas]

Quote: dmi.pris

So you need to test, pass, build the required amount, and then report. And then some promises.

Then you will have nowhere to give your stupid comments!

[dmi.pris1]

And what, with the launch of a series of weapons site will be hidden?

[Darkmor]

I don’t know about the missiles - for now, it’s more interesting to compare the cannons with the “probable enemy”.
Since there is no data on our new gun, I will take the old one as a basis.
GS is almost 4 times lighter than GAU - which, in general, is understandable, nevertheless, the American has a four-barreled gun (and why do they love gatlings so much?).
On the other hand, an ammunition load of 30 mm weighs more than an ammunition load of 25 mm, about one and a half times (slightly less).
Curb 30mm GSh (150 rounds) will weigh around 180kg, the American GAU (180 rounds) 330kg.
The rate of fire in the four-barrel is much higher. Higher initial velocity and dispersion of shells, but less mass. In terms of kinetic energy, the projectiles will be approximately equal. 30mm will still be more stable, which will positively affect the range and the possible deviation. 25mm will be faster (both the shells themselves and their number per second), which will have a positive effect on hitting a maneuvering target.
I think these guns are roughly equal in overall accuracy. 30mm is better for shooting at ground targets, 25mm for shelling airborne targets. In general, they perforate most modern tanks into the upper projection equally efficiently.
A larger MG caliber (and a lower initial bullet velocity), potentially, allows the use of greater variability of special ammunition.
If, say, you equip a 30mm offs with a non-contact programmable fuse connected to a laser rangefinder and (or) the radar of an aircraft, then the enemy fighter can be hit even without a direct hit on it.
30mm bzt can (in the future) be replaced with a "smart" corrected ammunition and destroy enemy armored vehicles (in the absence of serious air defense) extremely effectively. At the moment, we have such developments only in their infancy, but who knows ...
Nowhere lied?

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

Just dmi.pris comment is much more informative than the article and your, dear Pajama, comment! While we lag behind on many issues from our sworn friends. Look at the schedule for the introduction of new equipment and rearmament - 2020-2035 years. I do not want to say that nothing is being done at all, but lagging behind and much! But it’s necessary to take a step at least, but to go ahead, it’s very damn up to them and to bury them on its territory is somehow not comme il faut, it’s better to let it go under your own housing!

[Lukich]

Quote: -Wanderer-

very damn them

so they are all out of the puddle. and they all won’t get here. and so far we can defend ourselves with such forces

[Pajamas]

Quote: -Wanderer-

Just dmi.pris comment is much more informative than the article and your, dear Pajama, comment! While we lag behind on many issues from our sworn friends. Look at the schedule for the introduction of new equipment and rearmament - 2020-2035 years. I do not want to say that nothing is being done at all, but lagging behind and much! But it’s necessary to take a step at least, but to go ahead, it’s very damn up to them and to bury them on its territory is somehow not comme il faut, it’s better to let it go under your own housing!

The site is military-patriotic, its task is displayed in the title, the text is published in the News section, a link is given to the video tests of the new gun, test fact and there is news, informing that 12 types of new missiles are being developed for the T-50 - news, pseudo-separability with statements "only one promises" "do then report" is applicable in a production meeting, and in the discussion of news in the media in fact there is - HERESY contradicting the objectives of the site, not understanding elementary things is a prerequisite for declaring a comment "stupid"!

[dmi.pris1]

Heresy, and maybe a long tongue (and maybe a betrayal) to wag at every corner that we do this and that .. Even without specifics. When you do, then tell ..

[Pajamas]

Quote: dmi.pris

Heresy, and maybe a long tongue (and maybe a betrayal) to wag at every corner that we do this and that .. Even without specifics. When you do, then tell ..

Well, of course, after all, in the UAC there is a special department, the magazine that they themselves publish - there is a spy one, because they could not come up with another scheme for transferring the "secretaries" to the West, the CIA simply subscribes the magazine and that's it! http://www.uacrussia.ru/ru/press-center/corp-jour
nal / 18879 /
PS Moreover, it is clear to the analyst in Langley from the photo - the news is not about the guns, the photo is not from the test site, but from the secret biological laboratory of the Russians, a report on the special topic "Russians received a super loader by crossing a man and a bear, as evidenced by a noticeable woolen cover body, now he drinks vodka in buckets, and on the balalaika he plays Liszt's Transcendental Etudes "ready.

[NEXUS]

dmi.pris

Even without specifics

And what the hell are you? And excuse me, why should I publish specifics on a project in which most of the work is secret?
And about the "long tongue" ... so this representative said too much, what our foes do not know?
In the United States, statements are also published on the F-35 and on the Raptor and with state secrets, they are doing well, unfortunately. This is a common practice all over the world.
You, as a taxpayer and a citizen of the country, have the right to know what the military-industrial complex is doing to ensure your and your children’s peaceful and peaceful life.

[poquello]

Quote: NEXUS

And about the "long tongue" ... so this representative said too much, what our foes do not know?

)))) bearded such news, but about the gun, yes, the first time I read

[RUSIVAN]

Enough to fool around already, they say to you in the case, and you whine like a whiner ...

[Yars]

Quote: dmi.pris

Heresy, and maybe a long tongue (and maybe a betrayal) to wag at every corner that we do this and that .. Even without specifics. When you do, then tell ..

you have it much longer, if only you can throw mud at everything Russian, that is your liberal task .....

[dmi.pris1]

You are mistaken. As a result of hatred, stupidity and cheers-patriotism in the mud turned out to be the same ALL RUSSIAN ..

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

For pajama

Military patriotic site

Patriotism and hatred are absolutely opposite things! How much blood cost the attack of Hitlerite Germany, when the rearmament of the Red Army was going on - I hope there is no need to remind! And especially because of the unwillingness to wage a long war, on its territory, surrounded, in retreat. They were preparing to wage a fleeting war, on foreign territory, with little blood. Therefore, the task of such sites is to provide information about real readiness, but the fact that someone, somewhere is developing, is so clear! The fact that neither we nor "they" stand still and are constantly improving and doing new things is nothing new to me! But when they accepted and put them in the troops, they renewed and completely filled up the warehouses - this is news that is very encouraging!
By the way - I can please your patriotism with the news - we are developing the "Death Star", the Intergalactic Fleet! Closed-loop life support systems are already ready !!! The commissioning period is after 3000. The term is not final, it is possible to postpone it to a later date.

[Pajamas]

Where did you see the hats? Give a specific example, otherwise this is just chatter, for the sake of your position, reasoning according to the principle "It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick." I followed the link and saw that yes, they are testing a new gun, work is underway, it makes me happy. I don't know, maybe someone takes off the festive fireworks on the phone, throws up their hats ....... then revises and reports that yes It's done - the fireworks are revised !! I do not understand why all the news should be in fact what happened, this is some kind of nonsense. You probably don't consider news about successes in fundamental sciences as successes, or as news? After all, you can't touch it with your hands. Then everyone is ready to catch every "word" about "Armata", then opinions appear, do it and then say, if you are not interested why then read the news at all and be interested in what is going on in the military-industrial complex?

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

To blame, I meant cheers-patriotism: not yet, but everyone is already happy.
I don’t like such news about anything - should probably bet and a storm of enthusiasm for them. What's the news then? What caused so much joy? You did not know what will be rocket-cannon weapons? So it was laid in the design of the aircraft. Didn’t know that the gun and the second stage engine were being tested? Are rockets being designed and tested? What else is going to expand the range of missile types? So there MUST be many of them - for the whole spectrum of tasks to be solved. From the article it’s not even clear what missiles are being tested - near, medium, far radius, for what purposes they are intended to work. It is clear - no one will disclose the performance characteristics, but I do not need them. Or maybe missiles are signal ones? And by 2020 will there be more colors or higher brightness?
In fact: next year, the plane enters the army, and it does not have a full set of weapons - this is what I see from this article and somehow it does not cause me delight!
And here:

chatter, for the sake of one’s position, reasoning

And further in the text - it seems to me that they are more present in your comments.

[Pajamas]

And here:
[quote] chatter, for the sake of their position, reasoning [/ quote]
And further in the text - it seems to me that they are more present in your comments. [/ Quote]
It’s not correct)), because in the context there was a condition that YOU yourself recognized as true, there is no hatred, therefore - talking about it is a fact you’re talking fictitious talk, I’ll say more, there’s no ur patriotism, there’s a conversation that the news about the current state of affairs, the rejection of informing the public about goals and objectives, leads to excessive closure of the system, and as a result to corruption, nepotism, theft.

[poquello]

Quote: -Wanderer-

They were preparing to wage a fleeting war in foreign territory and with little blood.

and Barbaros was probably designed for five years

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

This is what saved! If they were ready for war in winter conditions - for Victory even more would have been given lives!

[poquello]

Quote: -Wanderer-

This is what saved! If they were ready for war in winter conditions - for Victory even more would have been given lives!

"whether" and "would" give rise to a huge number of probabilities of chains of events, which is that is, if Stalin had not been shot, the command staff and Germany would not have climbed at that moment

[NEXUS]

-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-

While we lag behind on many issues from our sworn friends. Look at the schedule for the introduction of new equipment and rearmament - 2020-2035.

By the way, about the graphs ...

especially considering the fact that already in October of this year, T-50 aircraft will receive the latest engine of the so-called "second stage". This was previously reported by Interfax, referring to the Deputy General Director of Rostec Vladimir Artyakov.

Prior to this, before 2018, the engine of the second stage was not expected.
And here the question arises: Either until now, the developers skillfully let the public and, most importantly, sworn friends in the course of work on the 30 product, or the statement in the article is erroneous.
Although I believe the first one is more likely. And the point is not in Wishlist, but in the fact that back in 2014, the 30 product passed test tests at the stand, and most likely, as a result of the priority of the PAK FA program, the work and tests were more fruitful and online.

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

Meant in view of a wider sense, and not specifically T-50.

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

Prior to this, before 2018, the engine of the second stage was not expected.
And here the question arises: Either until now, the developers skillfully let the public and, most importantly, sworn friends in the course of work on the 30 product, or the statement in the article is erroneous.
Although I believe the first one is more likely. And the point is not in Wishlist, but in the fact that back in 2014, the 30 product passed test tests at the stand, and most likely, as a result of the priority of the PAK FA program, the work and tests were more fruitful and online.

A real production engine - and will not be until 2018 year.
Now they are only assembling a work stand - a layout.
And in some sources - this is exactly what was said.
A work stand is not an engine.
What has been done and tested before is the development of individual components.

[mgero]

The last time there are only hangers-on, and this is why man gavarit.

[papas-57]

`` According to Boris Obnosov, by 2017, T-50 aircraft will receive six new missiles, by 2020 - six more. '' How stupid the correspondents got tired. When will they learn to correctly express their own and other people's thoughts and words? From this article it is not very clear what the T-50 will receive by 2020 - 12 new missiles or 12 new types of missiles. Write more clearly and literately, do not dishonor yourself.

[Danil Laryon]

Oh, he would also be radically manageable.

[VP]

What for ? The drone is not a huh?

[Mountain shooter]

Fundamentally new missiles are probably all-round. Type of launch on "calculated coordinates", followed by the capture of the target seeker.

[Yak28]

Why is everything rusty, some disgrace

[Gray brother]

Quote: Yak28

Why is everything rusty, some disgrace

Oversized layout is required to simulate weight and dimensions. Nothing else matters.

[Joker787]

A week passed and again another reprint. Where are the moderators watching ???
Here is https://topwar.ru/100197-superrakety-dlya-t-50-uz
he-na-podlete.html # comment-id-6222467
The same thing, even a little more detailed.
Where is this site heading?
Or I'm wrong?

[Katusha]

Good night!
Yes, the site in my opinion has become worse. Although I registered recently, I often went to him, so there is nothing to compare. Respectfully,

[certero]

What for a fighter designed to gain air supremacy to hit armored targets from a gun? Is he a ground attack aircraft? Will a plane under a hundred million from a cannon shoot at tanks?

[Pajamas]

Quote: certero

What for a fighter designed to gain air supremacy to hit armored targets from a gun? Is he a ground attack aircraft? Will a plane under a hundred million from a cannon shoot at tanks?

1.Soviet anti-ship missiles-armored, the product is called PAKFA - the first letter is promising, so if in the future a potential enemy will have armored missile launchers, then there will be a chance to shoot down "eYa" from a cannon.
2. The gun is unique in terms of mass and dimensions. What else is needed?

[NEXUS]

certero

What for a fighter designed to gain air supremacy to hit armored targets from a gun? Is he a ground attack aircraft? Will a plane under a hundred million from a cannon shoot at tanks?

The PAK FA cannon is not essentially for this, but, so to speak, serves as a "chance weapon" in close combat. That is, when either the target is very close, or when the missiles simply run out, you can use the cannon.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: certero

What for a fighter designed to gain air supremacy to hit armored targets from a gun? Is he a ground attack aircraft? Will a plane under a hundred million from a cannon shoot at tanks?

T-50 is created as a MULTIFUNCTIONAL inconspicuous complex of front-line aviation. The conquest of air supremacy is one of the many particular tasks that are assigned to the T-50 as a MULTIFUNCTIONAL complex.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: NEXUS

The PAK FA cannon is not essentially for this, but, so to speak, serves as a "chance weapon" in close combat.

Cruise missiles and drones will fall out of it. For the sake of some ghostly chance, no one will carry extra 2 tons. If the missiles run out, then you need to actively leave the zone, and not jerk the shutter of the shell "Berdan" (albeit very perfect in its class) , because. nothing is known about the enemy, and perhaps he has not even started to use up his missiles yet. An active maneuver to "lubricate the heels" and nothing else)))

[NEXUS]

Thunderbolt

Cruise missiles and drones from it will bring down.

Drones are possible, but the interception of the Kyrgyz Republic is the work of the MIG-31.

For the sake of some ghostly chance, no one will drag extra 2t.

Maybe they won’t ... but only, I’m interested to know how to use an air-to-air missile in dangerously close proximity, so as not to fall under the consequences of this very application?
It is clear that if the missiles run out, you need to get out of the battle and fly to the base ... but air combat is a very multifaceted concept and is not at all predictable. Therefore, it is better to have in your bosom such as you say "Berdan" than to fly without it. Remember the history of the Vietnam War ... mattresses did not put cannons on their Phantoms, relying on missiles and paid.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: NEXUS

but only, I’m interested in knowing how to use an air-to-air missile in dangerously close proximity to itself, so as not to fall under the consequences of this very application?

This is how not to fall under the debris of the enemy? Such a probability is negligible. And if you aim in your own way, then the "Start" will be blocked. And if your own missile hits the "angle of view" of the launched missile, it will most likely self-destruct. Very smart because she has a head, she just can't say anything, but this is not required of her.)))))

[NEXUS]

Thunderbolt

What is this, how not to fall under the wreckage of the enemy? Such a probability is negligible.

I already wrote that air combat is very unpredictable and multifaceted ... for intercepting the KR, the gun is not quite suitable, since at those speeds that develops PAK FA and will develop promising KR adversary, 150 shells are sorry for nothing.
On UAVs, I partially agree with you ... you can work out without spending expensive missiles.
With regard to armored ground targets ... for me complete nonsense, again due to the fact that the T-50 is not a helicopter and hovering or flying extremely low above the ground at low speed, he doesn’t need anything ... they’re not creating it for this.
There are bombers, helicopters, UAVs, that is, slowly flying targets, and, in part, the use of dog fighting.

[Pajamas]

Quote: Thunderbolt

. For the sake of some ghostly chance, no one will drag extra 2t.

2 tons is about what? Weight with power structure and mount? Something like a lot for a 50 kg gun and 150 kg of ammunition. I think there all together 220kg with electrical wiring and water.

[NEXUS]

certero

What for a fighter designed to gain air supremacy to hit armored targets from a gun? Is he a ground attack aircraft? Will a plane under a hundred million from a cannon shoot at tanks?

Dear, but armored tanks only? Helicopters do not have armor? Attack aircraft, bombers also without armor?
That is, not fate to think at all?

[Zaurbek]

The creators of the Phantom and MiG-21 said the same thing, but then changed their minds ....

[Banishing liberoids]

A 30mm caliber gun is capable of hitting ALL armored targets, HOW ??? And the t14 can also ??? Either degenerate specifically or classify this unique gun

[Thunderbolt]

Yes, how is that possible !!!)))
Of course, all types of existing and prospective armored vehicles ... !!! EXCEPT !!! ... right, except for the "Armata".
I propose legislatively fixing this situation when mentioning the 9-A1-4071K gun in the press. as we say about ISIS, that they are prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation)))

[NEXUS]

Banishing liberoids

A 30mm caliber gun is capable of hitting ALL armored targets, HOW ??? And the t14 can also ???

What does Armata have to do with it, and indeed a tank? Or do you think that PAK FA will fly over the battlefield like a helicopter and with its 150 shells will change the course of the battle on the ground?
Or are only tanks armored?
Helicopters, attack aircraft, bombers are not armored at all? Do not write nonsense, dear.

[Damir]

by 2017, T-50 planes will receive six new missiles, by 2020 - six more.

Is it in pieces or in models ?????

[Pajamas]

in megatons

[Yurmix]

Quote: Joker787

Where is this site heading?
Or I'm wrong?

The site, in pursuit of comments, removed the minuses, and now I personally, and not only, are fed up with comments in which the devil are those that have a bow on the side. Soon rogue from 404 will flood the site and then there will be "Censor".

[parkello]

Well, yes, yes, they removed it so that the same people do not abuse the minuses, but there is an opportunity to complain about the user, explain to the moderator the essence of the complaint and the moderators will figure it out. They cannot ban writing, but they can ban the account for a few warnings.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: dmi.pris

So you need to test, pass, build the required amount, and then report. And then some promises.

Those. Are you not happy that they tell us about promising developments? You are hard to please. If there is no super-duper yet, then you are not happy, and when they promise it soon, then you are not happy again. Give you the future now and in large quantities. You already tell the developers how to do everything instantly and taking into account the next hundred-year future.

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

Rather, they are not satisfied with the quality of the submitted material - which fell sharply along with the exodus of a huge number of old-timers from the site. Judging by the "nicknames" of the participants in the discussions. But the material of the "neighbors" - compare. http://warfiles.ru/show-129433-ispytaniya-skorost
relnoy-pushki-istrebitelya-t-50-popali-na-video.h
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[Tektor]

It would be nice to make the cannon shells remotely detonated, which would give a gain in the probability of damage when using the gun. It would be great if the shells were manageable and explosive as well. KVM.

[sharp-lad]

In caliber 30 mm.? What about missiles shady?

[Marconi41]

Well, with the gun it’s understandable, but I would like to know more about the missiles. At least about their purpose, without accurate performance characteristics. And it turns out that the new fighter will fly with old weapons. I do not argue our current missiles are not the worst in the world, but still ...

[Gormenghast]

There are rockets, but no aircraft.

[Joker787]

No rockets yet either.