Once again about Matvey Ivanovich Platov

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The life and military exploits of one of the talented students of the Suvorov school, the hero of World War 1812, Matvey Ivanovich Platov, are a wonderful page of military stories and still serve as lessons of courage, patriotism and high military skill. Matvey Ivanovich took part in all the wars of the Russian Empire of the end of the XVIII - beginning of the XIX century. For the Cossacks, Platov was the personification of Cossack valor, loyalty to the Fatherland, and readiness for self-sacrifice. The memory of Platov is repeatedly immortalized in the names of squares and streets, educational institutions and ships. However, it is practically unknown to the modern generation.



Matvey Ivanovich Platov was born on August 8 1753 in the village of Pribylyanskaya (Starocherkasskaya) in the family of a military foreman. His parents were not well-off and were able to give his son only primary education, having taught Russian reading and writing. In 13 years Matvey Platov began serving in the Cossack army. The blue-eyed, tall, stately, dexterous, unusually mobile young man very soon won the respect of his colleagues by his good-natured character, sociability and sharp mind. Matvey perfectly kept himself in the saddle and owned all the Cossack techniques of horse-riding, he skillfully used lance, superbly owned a saber, aptly shot from a bow, a gun and a pistol, not bad used a lasso. In 19 years, Matthew Platov was made an officer (captain) and given command of a hundred, in 20 years - a regiment.



In January 1781, Platov was appointed chief assistant to the military ataman of the Don Cossack army, and soon Matvey Ivanovich himself became the military ataman. In 1806-1807 Platov participated in the war with France, in 1807-1809 - with Turkey. He skillfully led the Cossack troops under Preussis-Eylau (1807) and on the Danube theater of operations. For this, in 1809, he was given the rank of cavalry general. In the difficult for Russia 1812 year, Platov commanded all the Cossack regiments on the border, and then a separate Cossack corps covering the withdrawal of the 2 of the Western Army, successfully fought under Borodino, Smolensk, Vilna, Kovno, skillfully acted in the battles of 1813-1814. He enjoyed enormous prestige among the Cossacks and was popular and respected in Russia and Western Europe. In 1814, being part of the retinue of Alexander I, M.I. Platov participated in a trip to England, where he was given a solemn meeting and was given a diamond-encrusted saber, as well as an honorary doctorate from the University of Oxford. Platov's merits not only in the exploits on the battlefield, but also in the fact that he made a significant contribution to the further improvement of the traditional forms and methods of warfare that took shape in the previous period of the history of the Cossacks.

In order to understand how Matvey Ivanovich Platov was a man and a warrior, let us cite several episodes from his combat activities.

Kalallah fight

On a warm April night, 1774, Platov, listening to the ground, listened to a distant rumble. As it became clear later, the numerous cavalry of the Crimean Khan Davlet-Girey was approaching, who managed to find out that the 2 Russian army, stationed in the Kuban, was being transported with food and ammunition, heavily guarded by two Cossack regiments (500 people each) with one gun, and that the regiments commanded by the camp colonels Larionov and Platov stopped for the night at the Kalalah river.

Platov woke Larionov, a senior and more experienced commander. After consulting, they ordered the Cossacks to arrange on one of the heights by the river a kind of field fortification, drive their horses inside, make a shaft of carts and sacks with food, and take up all-round defense. At dawn, the Cossacks saw that from three sides, they were surrounded by many times superior enemy forces. Larionov was not a timid man, but, realizing that resistance was useless and that they all would die in an unequal fight, offered to surrender. Platov, deeply insulted by his words, exclaimed: “We are Russians, we are Donors! Better to die than surrender! Our ancestors always did this! ”He took command of both regiments, sent two horseback hundreds to meet the enemy, and gave two efficient Cossacks the task of breaking through to lieutenant colonel Bukhvostov, who was stationed with regular troops on the opposite shore. One of the sent Cossacks at full gallop was hit by a bullet, the other used a trick: he knocked over and hung at the side of the horse, pretending to be killed, and then, when the danger had passed, he jumped into the saddle, rode up to the river, swam it and safely reached Bukhvostova camp.

Meanwhile, the Cossack hundreds sent to meet the enemy reached its advanced units and suddenly turned back. The Khan's cavalry rushed after them in pursuit. The Cossacks, having approached their field fortification, divided into two parts at a signal and turned in opposite directions. Thus, the enemy was under the gun and graf fire defending the camp. Confused by this surprise, the Krymchaks began to retreat in disarray, losing several dozen soldiers and horses on the battlefield. This technique (“trap”) in various versions and on a larger scale, Platov repeatedly used subsequently against the Turkish and French cavalry and, almost always, with success.

Once again about Matvey Ivanovich Platov


The first attack was repelled. Others followed. Davlet Giray threw more and more power into battle, but could not achieve success. Seven times he tried to seize the height held by the Cossacks, and always rolled back. The Cossacks resisted fiercely and stubbornly the whole day, but their forces melted, many were killed, wounded, a third of the horses fell, the ammunition ran out. Platov encouraged his warriors as best he could, appearing on the most dangerous directions. Nevertheless, some of the defenders began to lose heart. Larionov, who courageously fought, again spoke to him about surrender, in order not to kill people in vain. But Platov was unmoved. He replied: “Honor is more precious than life! .. It is better to die than to put weapon... ".

Meanwhile, the enemy was going to attack the positions of the Don for the eighth time. Anxiously awaited the exhausted Cossacks of the new and, apparently, the most decisive attack. At that moment a cloud of dust rose on the horizon. Among the defenders there was a jubilant shout: “Ours! Ours! ”Platov saw the lava of galloping horsemen with darts at the ready: Lieutenant Colonel Bukhvostov sent Uvarov's regiment to strike the flank and enemy rear, and with the main forces intended to strike from the other flank. Those besieged with joy began to throw up their hats, cuddle, shout “Hurray!”. Many had tears in their eyes. With an undisguised sense of relief, they watched as the Cossacks of Uvarov, with a loud cry and hooting, promptly crashed into the enemy ranks.

Without losing time, Platov commanded the survivors: “On horseback!” - and rushed with them to the enemy from the front. The enemy army trembled, mixed up, and finally began to withdraw. Pursued by the Don team, cavalry Davlet-Girey came across the main forces of Lieutenant Colonel Bukhvostov, who met them with a canister. Surrounded on all sides, the enemy was defeated and scattered.

In a subsequent report to the ataman, the troops of the Don Semyon Nikitovich Sulin about the fight on the Kalalah river lieutenant colonel Bukhvostov wrote: "Platov was brave and courageous: he encouraged his subordinates, led them to resist the enemy to resist - and thus kept them from abducting the enemy ... Uvarov approached the enemy with me, attacking him strongly, struck several infidels: through what best we could connect with the besieged, and by combining all we punished the treacherous with common forces. Lieutenant Colonel and Chevalier Bukhvostov. April 7-th day 1774 year in the Kuban at p. Kalalah.



The Don army, the regular army, the court, the empress Catherine II learned about the extraordinary feat of the Cossacks Matvey Platov, his personal courage, presence of mind in moments of danger, irresistible resilience and scrupulousness. By order of Catherine II, for all Cossacks - participants of the battle, a gold medal was knocked out at the height of the Kalalah river. The battle of Kalallah was the beginning of the brilliant military glory of Matvey Platov.

Assault Ishmael

December 9 The 1790 of the year before the assault of Ismail Suvorov appointed a meeting of the military council. One by one, Lieutenant-General Pavel Potemkin and Alexander Samoilov, major generals Mikhail Golenishev-Kutuzov, Peter Tischev, Fyodor Meknob, Ilya Bezborodko, B.P. Lassi (Lassius), Joseph de Ribas, Sergey Lvov, Nikolay Arsenyev, foremen Fedor Westfalen, Vasily Orlov, Matvey Platov.

Suvorov addressed the audience with a brief expressive speech: “Twice the Russians approached Ishmael — and they retreated two times; now, for the third time, it remains for us only to take the city, or die! ” Carefully looking at all the members of the military council, he continued to give everyone his opinion, and left the tent.

According to the tradition established by Peter I, Platov, as the youngest in rank and position, was to voice his opinion first. The young Cossack chieftain thought deeply. Thoughts, overtaking one another, flashed through his head. He weighed all the pros and cons. Ishmael is a serious fortress. High shaft, deep moat. The city has many stone houses that are convenient for defense, a garrison - 35000 people, of which eight thousand are cavalry. Select army. 265 guns, not counting Turkish cannons flotilla. The garrison commander Aydos-Mehmet Pasha is an experienced general. And what about the Russians? A total of 31000 fighters. Nobody had yet to take fortresses with less than the enemy’s strength. True, there are more guns, but there are not enough people for such an assault. Cossacks will be especially hard. They, trained in dashing equestrian attacks in the open, must climb stairs to the impregnable walls with destructive artillery fire with stairs and fascines in their hands. And their weapons - wooden peaks - are unsuitable for hand-to-hand combat. Losses will be great. And yet, Ishmael must be taken now. A prolonged siege, and even in the winter, will take no less people to the next world. From cold, hunger and disease, people will die in thousands. And if you lose the soldiers, then in battle. And the Cossacks will survive. Although most of them have never participated in the storming of fortresses on foot, they don’t take courage. The leader of the troops, Aleksandr Vasilyevich, seems to be determined to take Ishmael by force of arms, although Potemkin in the last dispatch provided Suvorov with his discretion.

Experienced Suvorov hardly sought advice. He needed support ... Platov’s thoughts were interrupted by Suvorov, who promptly entered the tent. Eyes chieftain flashed. He jumped up, said loudly and resolutely: “Storm!” Everyone joined him in unison. The Cossack chieftain approached the table and, under the decision of the military council on the assault on Ismail, first put his signature: “Brigadier Matvey Platov”.

According to the disposition of Suvorov, the attacking troops were divided into three groups (detachment) of three columns in each. The detachment of the future founder of Odessa, Major General de Ribas (9000 people) was to attack from the river side; the right squad commanded by lieutenant-general Pavel Potemkin (7500 people) was intended to strike from the west, the left - by lieutenant-general Alexander Samoilov (12000 people) from the east. Attacks of the right and left units ensured the success of the strike by de Ribas from the south, riverine side.

The Don Cossacks, who had lost their horses during the siege of Ochakov in 1788, were brought to foot shelves and sent to assault columns. Platinum's 5-th column (5000 people) was to ascend the rampart through a ravine that separated the old and new fortresses, and then assist in the landing of a landing force from the flotilla and jointly master the new fortress from the south. The 4 th column of the brigadier Orlov (2000 Cossacks) was assigned to attack the shaft east of the Bender Gate and to support Platov. The column of Matvey Ivanovich consisted of 5-ti battalions. The battle formation was built in two echelons: in the first three battalions equipped with fascines and ladders, in the second - two, combined in one square. In front of each column of the first echelon, 150 well-aimed shooters (snipers) and 50 warriors with a trench tool moved.

Early in the morning of December 11, 1790, the columns went on the attack. It was dark, the sky was covered with clouds, a thick fog obscured the approach of the Russians. Suddenly the thunder of hundreds of serf guns and ship cannons of the Turkish flotilla broke the silence. Platov's battalions, without losing order, quickly approached the moat, dropped fascines into it, then, overcoming obstacles, hurried to the rampart. At its base, the Cossacks put up the stairs, rapidly climbed up, and, relying on the shortened darts (spikes), climbed to the very crest of the shaft. At this time, the arrows remaining below hit the defenders of the shaft with fire, locating them by the outbreaks of shots.



Orlova’s column reached the moat on the left side of the Bender Gate, and its part had already climbed the ladder, the rest were still on this side of the moat. Bendery gates suddenly opened wide and a large detachment of Turks swiftly rolled into the ditch and, passing along it, struck the flank of the Cossack column, threatening to divide it. Hot hand-to-hand fight erupted. At this time, the battalion in which Platov and the commander of the two columns, Major General Bezborodko, were, approached the fortress through a hollow between the old fortress and the new one. The moat in this place was flooded. The Cossacks lingered. Then Platov was the first to plunge into ice-cold water, overcame this obstacle. The example of the commander was followed by others. After the warriors climbed onto the rampart, the young ataman led them to the attack and took possession of the Turkish cannons standing there. During the attack, General Bezborodko was wounded, and he was carried out of the battlefield. The command of both columns took Platov.

Hearing loud cries and the noise of the battle on the right, Platov ordered Colonel Yatsuneky, the commander of two battalions of the Polotsk Musketeer Regiment, which made up the reserve of both Cossack columns, to strike with bayonets of the Janissaries. At the beginning of the attack, the colonel was mortally wounded. Platov, coordinating the actions of his column with the battalions of the Polotsk regiment, the battalion of the Bugsky rangers sent by Kutuzov to the rescue of the neighbors, and also interacting with the dedicated Suvorov cavalry, helped the brigadier Orlov to repulse the attack of the janissaries. Most of them died, and the survivors rushed into the fortress, firmly closing the gate behind them. Then Platov assisted Orlov in mastering the shaft. After that, a part of the Cossacks, through a hollow, penetrated to the river and joined up with the landing party of Major-General Arsenyev.

The coming dawn dispelled the fog. It became clear that the shaft was taken by the Russians throughout its length. After a brief rest, the Cossacks, lining up in columns, moved to the city with peaks to the city, whose narrow streets were filled with Turks. Janissaries sat in stone houses and mosques. Everywhere shots thundered. Almost every building had to be taken in combat.



By 4 watch, Ishmael was already completely in the hands of Suvorov soldiers. The defeat of the whole army, located in an impregnable fortress, shook not only the Turkish Empire, but also Europe. He had a significant impact on the further course of the war and eventually led to the conclusion of peace in 1791. The assault participants were awarded: the lower ranks with silver medals, and the officers with gold marks. Many officers received orders and golden swords, some were promoted. Matvey Platov was granted the Order of George III degree and the rank of Major General.

Battle of Borodino

26 August 1812 of the year. Borodino battle in full swing. After eight attacks at the cost of significant losses, the French troops managed to capture Bagration flash. In an effort to complete the breakthrough of the Russian positions, Napoleon focused his main efforts on the Rayevsky battery. There were assembled for a decisive attack by a 35000 man and some 300 guns.

The French marshals urgently demanded the introduction of the remaining intact reserve - the old and young imperial guards (27 thousand selected troops). Napoleon replied that three thousand versts from France he could not risk his last reserve. Marshals insisted. Insisted retinue. The murmur was growing. Time passed, and it was necessary to undertake something. The emperor ordered a young guard to be sent into battle, but immediately canceled his order, since Kutuzov threw out the cavalry corps of Platov and Uvarov, who were in reserve, bypassing the left French army and they suddenly attacked Napoleon's troops in the area of ​​the villages of Valuyevo and Bezzubovo.



The Cossack corps of Ataman Platov and the 1 th cavalry corps of General Uvarov, around noon, forcing the river Koloch ford, rushed to the French. Uvarov led his cavalry to Bezzubovo, where the Napoleon regiment of infantry and the division of Italian cavalry stood. The Italians galloped off without taking the fight, and the French, rebuilding themselves in the square, blocked our cavalry’s way, taking the mill dam - the only narrow passage to the village. Uvarov's cavalrymen went over to the attack several times, but did not succeed. Finally, having suffered significant losses, they managed to press the French to the western outskirts of the village, but could no longer develop success.

Platov with the Cossacks unobstructed walked around Toothless from the north. But what to do next? To hit the rear of the enemy infantry regiment and help Uvarov defeat him? It will take time, and the result will be small. Attack the infantry division at Borodino? It is useless - too unequal forces. And Platov makes a decision: to cross another river - the War, to go deep into the French rear and to begin smashing the enemy transports. His calculation was correct - a panic arose in the rear of Napoleon's troops. The wagons and individual commanders on horseback with chopped off lines were rushed, pursued by the Cossacks, towards the location of the main forces. Some of them with loud cries: “Cossacks! Cossacks! ”Rode to the Shevardinian redoubt, on which the emperor was with his retinue. Almost at the same time he was informed that the Russians were attacking Toothless. All this had a stunning effect on Napoleon. He detained the young guard, stopped the attack on the Rayevsky battery, sent part of his troops to the left flank and, moreover, personally went there to accurately assess the situation. About two hours so precious in the battle of time was lost, while Napoleon was able to make sure that the number of Russian cavalry attacking his left flank was small. In addition, Platov and Uvarov had orders from Kutuzov not to get involved in a battle. Kutuzov had already achieved his goal, winning the time he needed.



Why did the attack of the Cossacks Platov on the left flank frighten Napoleon so much? What made the emperor interrupt the offensive in the main direction and cancel the entry of the young guard into battle? Why did he send additional parts to the left flank, and he himself rushed there, losing so much time? Everything is explained simply: the emperor was afraid of losing the transports with ammunition there, whose loss could turn into a catastrophe for the entire French army.

The Kutuzov time gain decisively influenced the outcome of the battle of Borodino, as the commander-in-chief of the Russian army managed to regroup, strengthening the center and left wing of his troops with the 2 and 3 corps. Although the French captured the Raevsky battery after the resumption of attacks, they were no longer able to build on their success. The emperor did not dare to move the last French reserve into battle.

The end of the battle of Borodino is known. Napoleon did not achieve victory in the general battle and led the troops to their initial positions. Kutuzov had every reason to be pleased with the results of the actions of the cavalry on the French left flank, especially the Cossacks of Platov.

Many other feats were committed by the M.I. Cossack army. Platov in the period of World War 1812 of the year and in the campaigns 1813-1314. M.I. Kutuzov praised the heroic actions of both Ataman Platov and the Cossack regiments led by him. “The services rendered by you to the fatherland ... do not have examples! - he wrote M.I. Platinum 28 January 1813. “You have proved to the whole of Europe the power and strength of the inhabitants of ... blessed Don ...”

Merit M.I. Platov were appreciated in due time. He was awarded: the Order of Alexander Nevsky with diamonds, Andrew the First-Called, of sv. George II degree, of. Vladimir I, John of Erusalim, a Commander's Cross, an Austrian Mary of Terezny of the III degree, a Prussian Black and Red Eagle 1 degree, a portrait of an English prince regent, and a saber adorned with diamonds, with the inscription “For Bravery” (from Catherine II), a diamond pen on his hat, gold medals for the battle at the Kalalah river, the assault of Ishmael, for feats in the Patriotic War 1812 of the year.

MI died. 3 January January 1818, 65 years old. In the city of Novocherkassk, he erected a monument with the inscription "Grateful Don - to his Ataman". In honor of Platov several medals were struck: gold (1774), two tin (1814), as well as tokens and medallions with his portraits, made in Russia and abroad.

Sources:
Astapenko M., Levchenko E. All Russia will be remembered. The historical narrative of M. I. Platov M .: Young Guard, 1986. C. 16-39, 75-118
Astapenko M. Ataman Platov: historical narration. Rostov-on-Don: Hephaestus, 2003. C. 87-143.
Venkov A. Ataman Troops Don Platov. M .: Veche, 2008. C. 283-312.
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  1. +4
    20 September 2016 07: 49
    Thank you ... Lively, brightly written ...
    1. +5
      20 September 2016 09: 10
      I join, this is of high quality, the author is another thanks.
    2. +3
      20 September 2016 12: 06
      Quote: parusnik
      Lively, brightly written ...

      Yeah ... Darts at the ready (by the Kalalah River) among the Cossacks (?) Uvarova smoothly shortening under Izmail turns into the peaks of the Cossacks Platov. Already with peaks at the ready, dismounted and built Cossacks enter the narrow streets of Ishmael, filled with Turks. Under Borodino, the unlucky Uvarov attacked at Bezzubovo some Toothless, but without darts at the ready. I am afraid that, not possessing the knowledge of the Author, I am writing nonsense ... Explain to me about darts. Still mistaken, considering them to be a throwing spear shorter than the Cossack peak. And a foot Cossack column with peaks at the ready ... Into a crowd of Turks with scimitars walking fearlessly ... The distance between the rows of at least 2 meters? The Janissaries will crush, oh crush such a system ... Something the techie engineer was really inspired. Previously, I did not notice, I received real pleasure from his publications. There are already authors inspired without measure. Do not take away a piece of bread from them ...
      1. +3
        20 September 2016 19: 42
        The author revealed the topic, and your koment is a typical literary scholarship.
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          21 September 2016 14: 13
          Quote: Panikovsky
          and your koment is typical literary scholarship.

          If they write about Maria that his cavalry with pilums at the ready rushed to the Germans, would you also accept with enthusiasm? Why are you allowing about Platov? I’m not a literary scholar for, but I asked a question about weapons - darts. I admit that the long peak in the Russian cavalry was really called that, after circumcision it became just a peak. Well, you ignore my question, and even call names. There would be no rudeness to clarify. Say, from 1773 to 1783 it was called by the Lancers to distinguish it from the Cossacks. Then they got confused, tired of answering literary questions, shortened it and called it a peak too.
  2. +4
    20 September 2016 07: 59
    Platov’s name is certainly well known. But I didn’t know much about him, except that he showed himself well in World War II. Now, thanks to the author, I already understand how much Platov was an outstanding personality. Here he is a true Cossack. Here it is the embodiment of Cossack valor and honor. And not only Cossacks, but in general Russian. It is strange that there are so few books about him and almost no films. The current Cossacks, instead of dressing up, raise money and shoot a normal film about the RUSSIAN hero (Cossack origin) of several wars.
    1. +4
      20 September 2016 08: 25
      I would not say that there were few books and films about Platov - feature films and documentaries, and even animated ones. In Soviet times, it was probably one of the most beloved heroes of the Napoleonic wars, along with Denis Davydov, Bagration.
  3. +2
    20 September 2016 08: 24
    On the southern flank of the Battle of Borodino, the Polish cavalry of Poniatowski tried to perform a similar maneuver. But she could not do anything worthwhile, running into Karpov's Cossacks and the Moscow militia. It seems that they "distinguished themselves" in a collision with the wounded evacuated from the battle.
  4. +1
    20 September 2016 08: 53
    Thanks for the great article. I discovered a lot of new things about the history of our state. Great people, real heroes, eternal memory to you!
  5. PKK
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    20 September 2016 09: 14
    The fact that Ataman Platov traveled to England in 1814 and was treated kindly there, which means that he was for one with the English lords and was awarded for the defeat of Muscovy in 1812. The truth is, you can’t hide, it’ll come out anyway.
    1. +3
      20 September 2016 09: 35
      Your suspiciousness is extremely strong.
    2. +4
      20 September 2016 10: 01
      Well, yes, also "find" documents that the real name was Platelbaum. Isn't it funny about what you've written? Thanks to the author for the quality work - lively, bright, interesting.
    3. +3
      20 September 2016 11: 50
      It turns out that the Romanian king was awarded the Order of Victory for promoting the defeat of the Germans at Stalingrad, or what?
  6. +2
    20 September 2016 10: 02
    for the Cossacks, I suppose for the whole of Russia, the Great Truly Man!
  7. 2-0
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    20 September 2016 10: 04
    author!
    When writing articles on a historical topic, you need to dive deeper into the sources !!!

    Raid Platov (not Uvarov) went for a walk at the suggestion of Mikhailov-Danilevsky, and before that everything was considered, incl. and Kutuzov, that the gallant Donets, together with the ataman "... did not act," that is, they were drunk in bed.

    Yes, for such a "raid" as the author described the crosses of George at least II degree, it is necessary to give - nakosya, take a bite - neither Uvarov nor Platov received awards for Borodino for some reason ... Platov even reported to the tsar-ampirer, and then in the draft remains.

    Personally, I will add. Citizen "parusnik" as you for ... (tortured) with your monosyllabic comments, he is sure to be ahead of everyone. Not tired of yourself?
    1. 0
      20 September 2016 11: 38
      If you don't like it, don't read it. We will not lose much to the Duma from the absence of your "polysyllabic" comments. And the main thing in your words is "Ahead of all". So stay awake at night, get ahead.
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        20 September 2016 12: 17
        Citizen Alexey123.
        So you have to read and write wisely, to write, the truth too. If you write a bravura article for a school textbook - this is one thing, and submitting to the discussion quite smart people (this is me to myself) is another. From the absence of my comment, you personally probably will not lose, because you know what you read.

        The Donets, like other Cossack women, in 1812 were an irregular cavalry, in essence a thieving and drunken crowd on horseback, even if the current costumed Cossacks do not take offense at me. By the way, for the name of them "Russians" it was possible to get in person from them (at best).

        And what are you talking about on "ahead of all" so bite? And they wrote that this is the main thing ... (I read the comment - I see a fig). Do not have time yourself, is the "sailboat" ahead?
        1. +2
          20 September 2016 18: 09
          All the same, I'm right, I bit you. Well, nothing, practice. And about your arguments for the Cossacks, I can give you my own, but you are "so smart" - "thief-drunk crowd." Who are you talking about? About the APU? Completely FOR. They were a thieving, drunken rabble in the Zaporozhye Sich, on the territory of the present .. Forgive God. And then they became part of the IMPERIAL war machine. By the way, regular units were also given bread wine. And how the linear Cossacks fought (the "thieving and drunken crowd"), participating in the annexation of the Caucasus, is not for you to tell me. I can tell you. Leave your sarcasm for the APU. And for the Russians - on the territory ... God forgive me and they can kill, they rush at children on May 9, poor people.
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            20 September 2016 20: 47
            Ah, citizen alexay123! Well, why are you hovering wherever your mind sleeps and spirits? What does the linear Cossacks, the Caucasus, and bread wine. The conversation then goes about 1812, the Battle of Borodino.

            About the war machine of the empire and the Cossacks. I will name you a year, but if you even know something about the history of at least the same Don army, you will understand, but if not, then no. And this year: 1835!

            About the crowd. Take an interest, and when it appeared to the Cossacks something similar to ranks and posts.

            Um, about the APU and so on. You think that you write, if there is nothing left to write, only you fart in a puddle, looking at the flag of the country of my residence. Arguments are necessary, not gases in a puddle ....
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              20 September 2016 21: 45
              Hey, citizen of the country of residence. I did not teach history from baby-bobik. I live in the land of the Cossacks. I live on the Caucasian line, which was defended from the highlanders by my ancestors - "thieving drunken crowd". And they kept it, and increased it. Honor the centurion Grechishkin, bobikovsky clever. And finally take out the western members from everywhere - according to Zelensky. Go, Black Sea, dig further. And there was not an empire, but an empire. Which gave you dignity, spirit. And you sold everything for cookies. Shizduy in Europe wise guy and tell tales there. Porch the air further. And go to Krasnodar, look at the monument to Catherine II, there you will see characters from the "thieving drunk crowd" who conquered the Kuban for Russia. By the way, fucking smart guy, the first were from the Cossacks, who later became Black Sea residents. Running for cookies.
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                20 September 2016 22: 14
                Che, citizen alexej123, there are no arguments at all?
                Of course, I could talk to you in your cattle-gopnic manner, but somehow a little dumb.
                After all, I wrote in Russian, there are facts and arguments about the "Platov raid" - come on, no - back off. Why should I discuss with you the history of the Cossacks as such? I still know more than you.

                With regards to the Caucasian campaign ... You would have learned the materiel. The main burden of the war was borne by the army, and not by the Cossacks. Yes, the Cossacks were used to protect the borderland and its settlement, everything and business.

                It's time to end this crazy ukrophobia. Why are you as Kiselyov on "24" splashing saliva?
                About the Black Sea ... well, the joke is already so ancient that it does not go at all.

                And do not turn to strangers like a gopnik ... It may be fraught with getting an answer in your stigma ....

                And yet, a resident of the Caucasian line. And why are you mummers with whips and stripes now you don’t defend it? Black wrinkle you in the tail and in the mane, and you are afraid to pickle, clowns.
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                  20 September 2016 22: 34
                  If you still have enough dope to cheat the thread, I’ll answer tomorrow. Bainki went.
                2. +3
                  21 September 2016 00: 59
                  And where did I write that the Cossacks conquered the Caucasus? I wrote that I defended and defended. Have you learned to talk nonsense from your prezik? It turns out. Further, for the "black". I live in the Kuban, where there are Adyghe and Armenians, and other ethnic groups. We live normally. Hey, Svido races, are you aware of "Svidomo-smart" that you incite ethnic hatred with your broomstick? The whole West has had, has and will have you. We at least have stripes, not in trousers, with forelocks and naked. You don't know shit, Svidomo. If you were so smart and knowing your country, you would not be displayed on the panel. Go further Dig the Black Sea, unfortunate guest worker. And there was one with such a flag, the Tsar rattled, he also built himself an academician. You probably it? Is the specimen reborn? Bored in the country of residence among the same individuals? Oh well. Get banned yourself better until you banned again for your rotten bazaar.
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                    21 September 2016 11: 36
                    Well what can I tell you? Today is a great holiday, you can't swear, and I don't want to talk to you. As for the discord, after all, you started to insult, there are no such stupid people left in Russia, the full impression of a conversation with the "ER" robot.
                    Of course, I could write a lot about investments in US bonds, and donated pieces of the Norwegian ocean, and about the regional budget found at the colonel, and airplanes for dogs, and about Bednov with Mozgov and Demin, but do I need it?

                    I will advise you. Never get into a dispute with a person whom you do not know, because You do not know how this argument can end ...
                    And it will end next. Look how you live peacefully with blacks (how many Cossacks wrinkle you there many have told me) and how you have mummers clowned:
                    http://roadcontrol.org.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2
                    1 & t = 34967

                    http://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2013/07/13/1152408.h
                    tml

                    So, go now and wipe yourself away from the feces in which you dive.
                    Fizkultprivet!
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                      21 September 2016 15: 24
                      "A person who knows everything" - firstly, I sent a complaint, for the "blacks", secondly you don't know the HORSE, you just do it, show off and, moreover, clumsy, thirdly - for bonds, if you read Norway on the Internet, you don't need to trump , this is not a sign of intelligence, in the fourth - Bednov, Mozgovoy and to - what I do not know, I do not speak about that, unlike Svidomo, who know about everything. Fifth, for the Cossacks, couch warrior come to the Kuban and shout for the clowns, then you will crow. And lastly, for the participation of the Cossacks in the development of the Caucasus, he openly merged, a know-it-all balabol. I repeat, dig the sea and do not go into the history of a foreign country, which you know from textbooks across the ocean. Further along Lavrov - DB.
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                        21 September 2016 15: 26
                        Looked at the links, sites of Ukraine? Ha ha ha ha and rosbalt. Indeed, further along Lavrov - DB.
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                        21 September 2016 16: 02
                        All that I wanted to write to you, I wrote.

                        "Good mood to you, you are holding on there"!
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    20 September 2016 10: 05
    Quote: bober1982
    Your suspiciousness is extremely strong.

    Something England did not become generous and did not reward any of ours for the defeat of the ukrokhunt in Debaltseve. And Ataman Platov awarded an expensive sword with diamonds, they also gave an honorary diploma. This is how you need to bend to the Lords, so that they fork out for such expensive gifts. Still have questions about my suspiciousness?
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      20 September 2016 11: 03
      Arguing in this way, you and Nikolai Semyonovich Leskov write down in English spies. There is no point in arguing, all the best to you.
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    20 September 2016 11: 11
    "successfully fought at Borodino"

    I also read that M.I. Kutuzov had his own plan for using the Cossacks of Platov. Platov, being in an ambush, went on the attack ahead of time, and did not bring much benefit. M.I. Kutuzov was extremely dissatisfied; he justly did not introduce Platov in the presentation for the award.
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    20 September 2016 12: 25
    Quote: bober1982
    Arguing in this way, you and Nikolai Semyonovich Leskov write down in English spies. There is no point in arguing, all the best to you.

    So tell me how I should think correctly, it will be useful to me.
    By the way, the battle on Borodino was for the shifts from the Koloch River to Tsarevo-Passat. Or am I thinking wrong again?
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    11 July 2017 20: 53
    Quote: PKK
    Something England did not become generous and did not reward any of ours for the defeat of the ukrokhunt in Debaltseve. And Ataman Platov awarded an expensive sword with diamonds, they also gave an honorary diploma. This is how you need to bend to the Lords, so that they fork out for such expensive gifts. Still have questions about my suspiciousness?

    PKK, do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Napoleon was an enemy to England. The real enemy. Subjugating Russia to itself, Napoleon intended to reach India, which was essentially a colony of England. The loss of India would have catastrophic consequences for Britain. Cossacks and Platov were a kind of symbol that defeated the Napoleonic army of Russia and eliminated the threat to the British. That is why the British crown awarded Platov. As for Debaltsev, I am surprised at your ignorance. What is happening in Ukraine today is, to a large extent, the fruit of the efforts of modern Britain, a faithful ally of the United States. MI6 and the CIA = twin brothers. If anyone receives the award, then it is Patroshenko or Yaytsenyukh. So that.
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    14 March 2018 16: 36
    No, for Borodino, Kutuzov was very angry with Platov for the failure of the raid due to drinking and robbery of convoys, instead of “business”!
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    5 December 2018 18: 31
    And what about personally Platov and the Cossacks drunkenness at Borodino, when in a raid I got drunk lost their way (? Or slept?) In three pine trees, failed the simplest task? And when they robbed a convoy, and attacked Napoleon with a small retinue. Murat alone! repelled the attack of an entire regiment of Cossacks (though, basically, robbing the convoy closest to the emperor)?
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    1 February 2020 21: 37
    Yes ..., before the Cossacks were a formidable force, and now one word is KIZYAKI. No offense will be said to all modern followers of the Cossacks.