Germany and France will offer to "restart" the EU defense policy

The heads of the military departments of France and the Federal Republic of Germany, Jean-Yves Le Drian and Ursula von der Lyayen, are preparing an initiative proposal for updating the EU defense policy, reports RIA News message "France Press".

“In a joint document, the ministers will present the basis for considering restarting European defense,” a French military source said.

According to him, the initiative’s goal is “to make European defense more effective, more effective without replacing national defense departments, which remain, by definition, key to the security of EU member states.”

“We want the EU operations to be launched easier,” the source added, noting that the ministers would present “concrete proposals, and not just general ideas.”

According to media reports, the joint document will propose the establishment of a “headquarters for the European defense initiative, a common satellite monitoring system and the exchange of logistic and military medical resources.”

Earlier, the head of EU diplomacy, Federica Mogherini, stated that “the creation of a unified EU armed forces is not a matter of the near future,” but by the end of the year, “very concrete” proposals on a global European defense strategy will be developed.

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[Same lech]

According to him, the initiative’s goal is “to make European defense more effective, more effective without replacing national defense departments, which remain, by definition, key to the security of EU member states.”

But will WASHINGTON give it?
EU poodles are on a short leash by the US State Department and it is somehow strange to read about these initiatives from these politicians.

[OLD FART]

Would they not regret everything again .... So they got it already and humiliated it! Patience is already ending in Russia ...

We all remember and know how to fight, as our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... This time everything will be different gentlemen!

[cniza]

The dreams of occupied countries will remain dreams.

[Inok10]

Quote: cniza

The dreams of occupied countries will remain dreams.

... in fact it is true ... but judging by their movements ... they are just waiting for the Chinese and I to overwhelm the Minotaur ... the Anglican princess will be especially happy ... pulled from one resource of English how they see the world by 2038 ... especially the part of North America "brought", well, half of the world is the Anglican Empire (in blue) and the funniest thing is Crimea they drew for themselves, naive Anglican zhentelmen ... admire ...

[Finches]

The Europeans, just at the suggestion of Washington, form their defense on the basis of false concepts of threats - they put Russia at the forefront as their adversary, accordingly shaping the military doctrine, although the main threat of the modern West is extremism and terrorism, as well as those professing these "religions" quasi-states like ISIS! Those who are able to mimic very dynamically under the influence of the situation, but European politicians stubbornly refuse to understand this! Most likely because of a banal motive - "grandmother"! The guys from the military-industrial complex need global opponents in the big European theater of operations, even if the "threats" allegedly emanating from them are simply sucked from the finger!

[INVESTOR]

From whom are you going to defend yourself ???

[Siberia 9444]

From no one! They are going to bring democracy and human rights to us with a bayonet, to free us from Putin's oppression. Well, we all know the true intentions.

[VP]

From the dictates of NATO

[Lelek]

(And will WASHINGTON give it?)

Will not give. Otherwise, the military-industrial complex of the "beacon of world democracy" suffers bankruptcy and the Bilderberg elders lose their "hard-earned" billions of dollars.

[Vladimir 1964]

But will WASHINGTON give it?
EU poodles are on a short leash by the US State Department and it is somehow strange to read about these initiatives from these politicians.

The same "poodle" of the site made such a serious statement. Cool, will collect a bunch of plus signs on an empty and useless comment, probably will again become a marshallese, and then what?

[Same lech]

The same "poodle" of the site made such a serious statement.

I do not comment on such rudeness ... but I read your comments on other forum users ... it seems you are a fan of spitting in the well.

I ask you not to touch my personality anymore.

[Same lech]

A bit of humor from the people ...

andrew.by
Can the US wage war with China and Russia at the same time? Like the author of the article, having a little imagination, I came to the conclusion that they can, but not for long. Minutes 25-30.

09: 14 28.08.2016 | Xnumx
Baha2
andrew.by; One tablet is enough

13: 10 28.08.2016 | Xnumx
komrad.kozjakov
andrew.by, Less than ten minutes, and then would give up. The rations are over. The Internet is down, the connection is down. The metro is closed, they don’t sit in a taxi.

[Altona]

And who will fight? Fighting gay men? To do this, it is necessary to release the right-wing conservative politics and traditionalists from the corral, and not to arrest and defame their leaders.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: The same Lech

According to him, the initiative’s goal is “to make European defense more effective, more effective without replacing national defense departments, which remain, by definition, key to the security of EU member states.”

But will WASHINGTON give it?
EU poodles are on a short leash by the US State Department and it is somehow strange to read about these initiatives from these politicians.

Yes, Washington will strongly resist, but the train of thought of the Europeans is correct. Its army is a foreign policy independent of Washington, and there they will begin to be friends with us))

[BOB044]

[quoteWe want the EU’s operations to start easier, ”the source added, noting that the ministers will present“ concrete proposals, not just general ideas ”] [/ quote USA will start everything for you. First you need to ask the owner for permission and then how to get consent then you’ll do what the USA allows you to do.

[Observer2014]

Germany and France will offer to "restart" the EU defense policy

Yeah, let them restart. Especially the former gynecocologist will directly restart everything Well, in case something happens, the preemptive strike in the Russian nuclear doctrine has not been canceled by anyone.

[OLD FART]

Another lesson for you is Europe ... This time it is very tough and cynical! I can’t even believe it ...

[vfqjh]

In order to make such statements it is necessary to be independent, and when they look in the mouth of staff, it is babble. The uncle will say - low-lying, the end of their statements. Recent history has already shown us this, mongrels, they are mongrels.

[AdekvatNICK]

The United States will not allow this to be done because they control Europe - this time.
There is no money - these are two (even more than half of the countries cannot pay a contribution to NATO)
Europeans now have problems and more important - these are three.

[Andrey Gladkikh]

I agree that the United States will not allow this to be done, because the creation of the united armed forces of the EU is not even a step, but a leap toward the collapse of NATO.

[Lelek]

(Andrey Gladkikh)

The idea is correct: "why feed NATO if there is EVERYTHING (the Armed Forces of Europe). And it seems that EVERYTHING will cost an order of magnitude cheaper and jobs in the EU military-industrial complex will increase. But this is unlikely to happen to us from this ballet is neither cold nor hot.

[APASUS]

In general terms, I would like to understand the attitude of two military blocs in Europe at once. How will the owners react to the fact that they will have to move, as I understand the EU still wants to manage the euro army. In essence, the question is about the redistribution of financial resources of European countries in favor of the euro army , and this can’t be allowed in the USA, and for this it is necessary to be at least an independent state.
And who is independent in Europop?

[Senior manager]

Europaces act in terms of creating European defense strictly by the directive of Fashington. The elect needs a war with Russia _ they create European defense in order to fight Russia until the last European pace, because they did not ride with horses - Russia did not come to war.

[Masya masya]

"Earlier, the head of EU diplomacy, Federica Mogherini, said that" the creation of a unified armed forces of the EU is not a matter of the near future, "" but will they pull? And NATO to support the EU military? If now in Germany, instead of machine guns, painted sticks ...

[Evil 55]

In Siberia, this Russian Federation would be Federica .. We’d have retrained it in a big way .. And it would have been called beautiful, Maria, and would have given birth to beautiful children, and would have diminished the stupidity of her ..

[Masya masya]

What the hell did she give up to us here? Slightly what to Siberia, re-educate here ... Correct a hunchbacked grave!

[afrikanez]

Where are you now without NATO? The EU is now like land under a collective farm (subordinate to the Americans) so don’t even dream of your own self-defense, gentlemen are good.

[family tree]

Historian and gynecologist, this is power! This is not some sort of haberdasher or cardinal.

[warriordima]

Quote: The same Lech

According to him, the initiative’s goal is “to make European defense more effective, more effective without replacing national defense departments, which remain, by definition, key to the security of EU member states.”

But will WASHINGTON give it?
EU poodles are on a short leash by the US State Department and it is somehow strange to read about these initiatives from these politicians.

Washington by Washington, and Europe by Europe, they also want to protect themselves in the event of a crisis, and they understand that it is impossible to rely on NATO because this is the first thing that will fall apart when everyone starts to drag the blanket over themselves in the event that the owner’s grip over the ocean loosens.

[Lumumba]

Rebooting does not help: the processor (Brussels) is buggy, the memory (historical) is broken.

[Witness 45]

But I wonder if they agreed on such a discussion and statement with their overseas master, but it seems to me that they either really start to fear that if Trump comes to the White House, then somehow they will have to independently solve the defense issues of Western Europe, or simply they’re bluffing, they want to put pressure on Washington so that it doesn’t stutter about the increase in the share of European countries in NATO maintenance costs, threatening in this case to create an alternative military structure in which Washington’s influence will be close to zero, although I doubt very much that, given its dominant role Washington’s role in the Western world will allow them to take real steps to create such a structure.