Tests of repeater balloons with AFAR

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Corporation Press Service Rosteh reports that specialists of the military-industrial complex (United Instrument-Making Corporation) are introducing a special complex of high-speed information transmission based on a balloon. The complex allows you to provide protected Wi-Fi military units at a distance over 200 km.

Tests of repeater balloons with AFAR


The complex consists of repeater balloons of three different volumes (small, medium and large). Repeaters carry special equipment on board. They installed AFAR (active phased antenna array), providing a stable connection between mobile and stationary command and control centers.

From the report:
The system developed by concern "Constellation" is in the testing stage. It will allow you to organize networks of reliable communications for the military, provide security of communication channels, point-like direction of signals, automatic tracking of receiving devices in space even in the absence of GLONASS and GPS signals.


The balloon will be at a certain height and ensure the work of several secure communication channels at once.

For some time now, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has been talking about the relevance of using balloons for military purposes. In addition to using them as a means of providing communications, it is proposed to actively use balloons to film the ranges of military exercises. Such surveys are already being used along with surveys from the classic drones.
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  1. +14
    9 September 2016 16: 45
    Finally, we took up the development of military balloons. The topic is very promising, and not only in the field of communications - such balloons can also be used to track abroad or as mobile high-altitude radars to intercept drones.
    1. +3
      9 September 2016 21: 02
      Finally, we took up the development of military balloons. The topic is very promising, and not only in the field of communications - such balloons can also be used to track abroad or as mobile high-altitude radars to intercept drones.

      Precisely, exactly "Lieutenant Teterin", especially if you consider that:
      They are equipped with AFAR (active phased array antenna), which provides stable communication between mobile and stationary command control centers.

      it’s generally from the realm of fiction, for the simple reason that, in fact, AFAR certainly refers to electronic equipment, but to communication ...... belay , this is news to me! Something like radar (whether active or otherwise) and communications are different things. Maybe I'm already so "outdated", and really competent colleagues will correct me, but there is an obvious discrepancy in the article. soldier
      1. +2
        9 September 2016 21: 52
        I hope you will not pick up parabolic antennas from signalmen, for example, from the P-410, P-412, only because they are also used on the radar. Or, on the contrary, do signalmen need to be taken from you?
      2. +1
        10 September 2016 03: 01
        One of the advantages of AFAR is its broadband. This provides a large bandwidth of the connected channel with a high energy potential. Fast electronic beam scanning allows you to quickly switch between subscribers in a certain serviced sector of angles.
      3. 0
        10 September 2016 07: 45
        there will be time check out the material https://topwar.ru/33003-cifrovoe-pole-boya.html
      4. 0
        10 September 2016 08: 45
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        Maybe I'm already so "out of date", and really competent colleagues will correct me, but there is an obvious discrepancy in the article

        Outdated. For a long time already for Wi Fi a hundred kilometers is not a problem, and the speed is already up to 500 mb. By the way, Russian-made
      5. 0
        10 September 2016 12: 43
        raptors seem to use afar too for communication! there is the same transceiver! Esmu no matter what to send and receive! info packets or just a radio signal for radar operation!
  2. +3
    9 September 2016 16: 52
    Let's hope that ours does not fall off during test flights, like a similar device from partners.
    "The complex allows you to provide secure Wi-Fi to military units at a distance of over 200 km."
    1. +2
      10 September 2016 00: 39
      Quote: Joker787
      it’s not clear what Wi-Fi has to do with it,

      - that's the same thing. In the West, they use a much steeper and more secure analogue of WI-FI - the so-called. zigbee protocol. Accordingly, it is time for the Russians to already have their own Weifai, so that the stack of this created protocol would be kept secret and not given to anyone. For civilian use banal Wi-Fi above the roof.
      1. +1
        10 September 2016 02: 04
        Zigby is a low-speed protocol, it is not an analogue or a replacement for Wi-Fi
        1. 0
          10 September 2016 11: 17
          The speed is determined by the physical channel and not by the protocol !!!
          ZigBee, just has more functionality to use these channels.
          1. 0
            11 September 2016 13: 22
            The speed depends on the protocol, read about MTU at least.
      2. 0
        10 September 2016 08: 33
        Quote: aksakal
        Accordingly, it is time for the Russians to already have their own Weifai, so that the stack of this created protocol would be kept secret and not given to anyone

        So long ago got. Such boxes are stamped in Katya
  3. +4
    9 September 2016 17: 02
    Easy to stray. Peacetime equipment.
    1. +9
      9 September 2016 17: 21
      Quote: Vetal999
      Easy to stray. Peacetime equipment.

      ... try for 200 a mile from the line of contact!
    2. +6
      9 September 2016 17: 44
      Quote: Vetal999
      Easy to stray. Peacetime equipment.

      Have you tried shooting down? Or so, it seems speculative?
      Even if speculative - develop a thought: from what, with what, at what distances and heights, where to get.
  4. PKK
    0
    9 September 2016 17: 19
    Hands reached, it pleases, now it is advisable to bring the topic to mind.
  5. +2
    9 September 2016 18: 00
    If the electronic warfare system extinguishes any connection, then how will Wi-Fi work? Or try to push the bullshit which can only be used in peacetime, or EW is not so good.
    1. +1
      9 September 2016 19: 08
      AFAR with a high bell tower spits on any electronic warfare am
      EW - only against omnidirectional antennas.
      1. 0
        9 September 2016 21: 26
        Do not flatter yourself - AFAR is only part of the ways to counter the enemy’s electronic warfare.
      2. +1
        9 September 2016 22: 28
        Operator Today, 19:08
        [/ Quote]
        AFAR with a high bell tower spits on any EW am
        EW - only against omnidirectional antennas
        [Quote]


        That is, the enemy, using a directional transmission, will "sneeze" at all our electronic warfare? Or how? I don’t think that our partners no longer have systems for countering electronic warfare in the form of directional transmission, and the effectiveness of our electronic warfare is only good for jamming phones and GPS navigators. Then what happened to "Donald Cook"? Maybe the fault is not our electronic warfare systems, but the smoke from burning tires in Kiev inhaled? what
  6. VP
    +4
    9 September 2016 20: 53
    It will allow you to organize a reliable communication network.

    Could not be reliable communication critically dependent on weather conditions
    1. 0
      9 September 2016 22: 17
      That's what, and balloons are more stable than helicopters and airplanes. (No offense - From personal experience).
      R.S. If only everything was done according to the rules ...
  7. +16
    9 September 2016 21: 18


    Mobile complex of VHF technical means of the high-altitude lifting antenna-feeder surface wave system "Start-1R" - Crimean Peninsula in 1990. They managed to adopt the USSR. Died with the country :(
    Frequency range from 30 to 500 MHz (depending on the means of radio communication; more than 500 MHz is not effective due to the strong attenuation of the EMF in the feeder). Lifting height 1000 m. Duty time at one refueling with helium - 10 days.
    In terms of survivability:
    1) Test for radar visibility - ESR like a bird at a distance of 1 km. Further invisible.
    2) IR range - invisible;
    3) An accurate bearing is possible by electronic warfare in active mode. (The basic lack of high-altitude radio communications means - AN ENEMY sees you too far);
    4) Test for firing from NSVT with a burst of 50 shells - helium flowing out of the damaged shell for 6 hours while holding the equivalent of the working load at a height of 200 m. It is already difficult to get higher.
    Cheap to disgrace. The whole complex is in the photo.
    During the test, the radio signal service area covered the whole of Crimea.
  8. +3
    9 September 2016 21: 51
    An aerostat with AFAR is almost like an AWACS aircraft constantly baiting at one point! Here are just a little height. But the costs are incomparably cheaper.
    1. +1
      9 September 2016 21: 58
      Here the headlamp is for communications, and not for radar. HEADLIGHT is a phased array antenna.
      Judging by the photo there is no AFAR. But the HEADLIGHT is possible - the picture is small.
      1. 0
        9 September 2016 22: 04

        For example, what looks like AFAR (SSC TOR M 2).
        But with HEADLIGHTS easier. Elements can be carried relatively far away; for electronic changes in DND, this is not critical. The main thing is to choose the EM phase for controlling the bottom.
  9. 0
    9 September 2016 22: 08
    Although the Artistic Director says that in the 80s they seemed to be able to push the HEADLIGHTS inside the aerostat.
  10. 0
    10 September 2016 06: 19
    Perhaps I will tell someone a terrible military secret, but at the beginning of the 90x, oil workers in the north exploited English and German tethered balloons as elements of deploying long-range communications, of course, there was still no talk about AFAR. For the cordon, it was generally in the order of things.
    1. 0
      10 September 2016 08: 00
      Oilmen are one thing, and the military is another thing. And there are statistics of their losses: wind, lightning, etc.
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  12. 0
    10 September 2016 07: 54
    It’s scary to hang up the ball like that ... And if not the weather?

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