Vilnius: Lithuania was an economic donor of the USSR

Lithuanian edition Lietuvos zinios reports that Lithuania is going to raise archival documents and monitor the financial and economic situation of the republic during the Soviet era in order to "prove that Lithuania was a donor in the Soviet Union." It should be noted that similar attempts are made by the Latvian authorities, examples of which are inspired in Vilnius.

The submission states that the head of the Center for the Study of Genocide and Resistance of Lithuania (and there is such an office in Lithuania) Ms. Burauskayte claims about the “possible” discovery in the archives of the republic of documents “confirming the economic viability of the Lithuanian SSR”. Burauskaite says that labor productivity in the Baltic republics was allegedly higher on average than in other republics of the Soviet Union. According to the spokeswoman for the said bredotsentr, it is based on this that the economic return from Lithuania was higher than the Moscow subsidies to the republic.

This suggests that Ms. Burauskaite and everyone else guided by the same logic are insanely far from understanding economic laws. Following their thinking activity, it turns out that if, for example, in Lithuania labor productivity today is slightly higher than in Romania or Bulgaria, then this gives Vilnius the right to say that it does not need subsidies from Brussels? Well, if so, then why are Lithuanian officials constantly turning to EU financial centers to get another loan? ..

In Lithuania, it is reported that the commission “by definition of damage from occupation” has already begun to “search for documents”, which will confirm the preliminary findings of the same commission. There is an opinion that the documents on the donor's role of Lithuania in the USSR cannot be found by definition, since with the level of the republican economy demonstrated by the Lithuanian SSR, it would not have been able to create that social, cultural and industrial environment on its territory for 300 years. , which the USSR presented to it, and which the new authorities managed to turn into dust in 25 years of “independence”.

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[Vladimirets]

“Prove that Lithuania was a donor in the Soviet Union”

In general, the stamp presented in the article shows the entire contribution of the Lithuanian SSR to the economy of the USSR.

[sgazeev]

The Baltic region is generally an energy poor region, and Lithuania is the most energy-deficient of all the Baltic countries. Estonia has oil shale deposits; Latvia has a whole cascade of hydroelectric power stations on the Daugava. But Lithuania has no energy mineral deposits or hydropower.

[Diana Ilyina]

But Lithuania has no deposits of energy minerals, nor hydropower.

For that they have plenty of ambition, arrogance and diarrhea of ​​consciousness!

[Kasym]

Let them believe that they should still remain.
The USSR gave Lithuania: a resort in Palanga, Dzintaris, ports and ...
energy: Kaunas (1956), Lithuanian (1968) state district power plants, and one nuclear power plant (1983)
mechanical engineering in Vilnius, Kaunass, Klaipeda (radio electronics, shipbuilding, instrument making, agricultural engineering, machine tool building, construction industry, etc.)
Chem., food and light industry, etc ..
The Germans in Lithuania used the "scorched earth" method, losses of up to 17 billion. owls. rubles. And who restored all this, if for a few mil. in Lithuania it was not possible (see above list)? The dust after the Second World War would still be swallowed.
The Baltic elites still have a poor understanding that the Kremlin has multiplied them by zero — for no more than 5 years and will not get out of Moscow.
That's interesting. Let's imagine that they owe them and they will receive money (let's fantasize a little). But I think that they will definitely not "create and create" - they will be sawed, and they will be hammered into euronores. Well, they will pass at best. no one will invest in the country where even the homeless are fleeing. Therefore, without normal relations with the Russian Federation, this Baltics cannot earn money and the economy cannot be revived.

[Monos]

Quote: Kasym

Let them believe that they should still remain.

By and large, everyone will have to, except Belarus! And it is from the labs that I would start collecting debts. For impudence.

[Lekov L]

And I would start with the Georgians ..
But the rest, too, would not forget.
Moreover, the purchase price for potatoes in the RFSR and the Byelorussian SSR in 1988-89 was 0,07 rubles / kg with an average cost price of 0,08 p / kg.
And on mandarins 1,27 r / kg at the cost price 0,08 r / kg.
So this sign is also statistics ... There is even worse!
I know, I am responsible for the "bazaar", I was working as a programmer at the Central Statistical Bureau at the time.
Subscription has ended and the USSR too.
Respectfully..
Threat Also born in Lithuania in the family of the occupier. Have pity!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Lekov L

So this sign is also statistics ... There is even worse!
I know, I am responsible for the "bazaar", I was working as a programmer at the Central Statistical Bureau at the time.

Almost colleagues were. CSB "Soyuzschettekhnika". He spent more than two years in total with Latvian neighbors in Riga for retraining. I even began to understand the language a little. For them, the Lithuanians were in the markets as Azerbaijanis were for us, although they themselves did not go far either.
I never trusted statistics. The first question always arose - who, how, by what method did he calculate and what sources? The Soviet leadership has always developed "national outskirts". At the expense of someone is also clear. I think that the Baltics are well aware of this. But, it is necessary to stir up nationalism with something. That is why myths about occupation and debts come in handy.

Quote: Lekov L

He was also born in Lithuania in the family of an occupier. Sorry belay

Be-e-you are ours!

[Lekov L]

Be-e-you are ours!

already old

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Lekov L

already old crying

And I'm old.

[ARES623]

"I know, I am responsible for the" bazaar ", I was working as a programmer at the Central Statistical Bureau at the time."

You should pull an analytical article more detailed on the resource. The topic is very interesting, but with the sources of trouble. Rather, they are, but for narrow specialists. A "short course" would be very appropriate here.

[Kasym]

Monos The table is not entirely correct. We must watch the entire period, or at least a couple of the last five-year periods. For example, the Kazakh SSR was a donor until 89. And a couple of republics in my opinion were in the cons. Something about 6 republics. Some Western experts said that the village was a stone for the USSR. households of Ukraine and social programs in Central Asia.

[ddd1975]

... notice, and this is without calculating capital investments. But nobody takes into account the debts of the USSR.

[CALL.]

Vilnius: Lithuania was an economic donor of the USSR

Facts from the statistical collections of the USSR.
RSFSR balance sheet balance +30,84, Estonia - 1,3, Latvia - 1,31, Lithuania - 3,69, Ukraine - 2,89. The balance of inter-republican and foreign economic commodity exchange in world prices in 1988 (billion rubles) (Gaidar ET The death of an empire. Lessons for modern Russia.- M.: ROSSPEN, 2006.- 440.- P.299
And this is how it looked in the distribution of money FOR ONE RESIDENT of the republic from the general budget of the USSR, to which, as we have seen, the main contribution was made by the RSFSR:
RSFSR 147,4 million people, -209 rubles., Estonia 1,6 million people. +812 rubles, Latvia 2,7 million people, +485 rubles, Lithuania 3,7 million people, + 997 rubles, Ukraine 51,8 million people, +59 rubles, Georgia 5,45 million people, + 350 rubles per year for each person.
They lived well, right? 209 rubles were taken from every Russian in a year, and 812 rubles were paid to every Estonian, which he did not work for, 997 rubles for every Lithuanian, 485 rubles for Latvia .. By the way, my brother told me that when they destroyed the USSR, they told the Ukrainians that they were Mosk @ lei are fed, annually for $ 15 billion. Damned communists, of course, were robbed. But only whom? Now the Balts are preparing a lawsuit for the Soviet occupation. This is such a strange occupation. Instead of robbing the colonies, they still paid them !!!

[Tusv]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

For that they have plenty of ambition, arrogance and diarrhea of ​​consciousness!

Let's not talk about it. About flawed. We went through decommunization - Thanks to my grandfather for the victory. They have - where was your grandfather, and for this we will put him in jail. Scum

[marl]

But ambition, arrogance and diarrhea of ​​consciousness they have more than enough!

Selyuki, they are Selyuki.

economic returns from Lithuania were higher than Moscow subsidies to the republic

Ms., with a complex surname Burauskaite, for a start confuses the concept Moscow subsidies with allied investments in the economy of the republic, thanks to which the Lithuanian SSR, being part of the union state, had economic viability (not to be confused with independence).
It is a pity that the aforementioned Ms. does not study the post-Soviet financial and economic situation of the republic when Moscow subsidies ceased to come into the budget.

[Uncle Murzik]

the less louse, the more painful it bites!

[Major Yurik]

Well, non-volatile and feeding the USSR Lithuania is strong! A couple of dozens of farms were combined into a republic, they were peeled of potato peelings, but they’re wrapping it all up! Ugh on them again, until now, you would have lived like that!

[moskowit]

"... You have nothing. You are HUNGER !!!" (from the great movie "Beware of the Car")

[Igool]

There was one NPP built by the union, and even that was closed as an unnecessary competitor.

[SSR]

Yes, in general, a joke in one headline, a small limitrophil Vilnius, the USSR fed, a pimple on the pope makes the elephant big and strong, the brain is washed like Ukrainians.

[Drzed]

the forelocks also shouted that the whole Union was being fed, while they themselves were running quietly into the Rostov region for lard, and they were also bought from the Poles by cars from the Germans. Breadwinners, balin

[Tatyana]

 SSR
Yes, in general, a joke in one heading, a small limitrof Vilnius, the USSR fed

Ha! Well, Lithuania! I even remembered a joke right away.

Elephant is watching TV. The elephant went for a walk. Doorbell. The elephant peered out - nobody. Call again. He opened the door again. Looks, a fly sits on a call. Elephant asks:
- What do you need?
- And where is the elephant?
- I went for a walk.
- Well, tell her you called dad hahal.

Likewise, Lithuania, like a fly, CHALLELY "calls" around the world that Lithuania allegedly contained all the other 14 Soviet socialist republics during the Soviet period, especially the Russian one. Lithuania is an unfortunate bloodsucker!

[Asadullah]

shows the entire contribution of the Lithuanian SSR to the economy of the USSR

Yes, waking you, what is the contribution of pork at 90 kopecks per kg? So New Zealand delivered hundreds of times more to the USSR. First, let’s take a look at what Lithuania is in the forty-fifth, the Germans cut down more than 90% of the forests, special teams collected all the color, even brass handles were torn from the doors. There was not a single school, not a single hospital. Looted broken premises. At the beginning, investments went to the state apparatus, hospitals and schools and institutions began to work. There was not a single asphalt road in Lithuania, at best paved with cobblestones. They began to build roads and cities. Even in Vilnius there was no central sewage system. Some injections into construction, without plants and energy, already outweigh any amount of pork two hundred years in advance. And agriculture, a separate article, seventy percent of the agricultural land in Lithuania needed land reclamation, in Lithuania it was the largest work in the Soviet Union, all the swamps were drained, with the exception of National Parks. Later industrial construction began, at which the Russians worked, since there were no personnel, they were trained at universities that were created from scratch, and twenty training groups each had one in Russian. And this is so offhand. What kind of contribution to the ass can we talk about? They pulled a beggarly bummer out of the mud, washed it, scented it with cologne and put it in a mink coat. What did he give in return? The air ruined .....

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Asadullah

What did he give in return? The air ruined .....

When I drank a fur coat and again fell out in shit.

[GYGOLA]

Even in Vilnius there was no central sewage system.

in our city center (private sector) it is still not there ...

[Asadullah]

in our city center (private sector) it is still not there ...

This is also the contribution of Lithuania. Give the last to the distant, forgetting about loved ones. When quarters of high-rise buildings were built in Lithuania, for which they also gave the Lenin Prizes, in the Urals there were cities from the greenhouses removed from the rail. In which lived veteran veterans. My grandfather, the Hero of War, kept curia in order to feed his family, quietly, risking a party card. The development of the republics annexed by the Covenant, the crime of the leadership of the USSR before its people who survived the war. As well as assistance to Africa and other blacks.

[Massimo]

Yeah, and after the collapse of the Union, who prevented Labusovia from becoming an EU donor, probably Russians out of envy.

[DMoroz]

They pulled a beggarly bummer out of the mud, washed it, scented it with cologne and put it in a mink coat. What did he give in return?

Matroskin said it well: We can say, we can say, found it in the garbage dump, washed it, cleaned it of cleanings, and he paints us with figs.

[Comrade Schucher]

Quote: Asadullah

There was not a single asphalt road in Lithuania, at best paved with cobblestones. They began to build roads and the city

Well and further on your text ...
All that you have listed should be attributed to the shameful legacy of the communist occupation, and as a result should be destroyed, or force the "occupier" at your own expense and on your own, to take all this communist legacy to your (enemy) territory.
That is, the slut must become a "girl" again.

[dumpy15]

In 1955-1987, the "Soviet occupation" was completely restored Trakai Castle, an architectural monument of the 2017th century. The restoration was carried out at the expense of the all-union budget. It would be nice for Russia to release an anniversary stamp on this remarkable occasion in XNUMX.

[Alexei]

Quote: Vladimirets

the stamp presented in the article shows the entire contribution of the Lithuanian SSR to the economy of the USSR.

Well, at least they were capable of something. Now probably it is not able to produce

[pvv113]

Moreover, the brand itself was printed at the Moscow factory of Goznak

[Stanss]

Are you talking about 40 kopecks? ))))))))))))

[vitaz]

Take the census at sprats and tyulki. Miserable

[Black_PR]

"... In Lithuania it is reported that the commission" to determine the damage from the occupation "has already started" searching for documents "that will confirm the preliminary conclusions of the same commission ..."
"Documents", of course, "will be found", but will not be shown to anyone, since they are "secret" ...)))
The technique worked out.

[sabakina]

I would say, they started to "capture documents." They "see" them, they cannot catch up.

[Iline]

Today in Vzglyad there is a more extended article on this subject. Skipping already voiced I quote literally

So who nevertheless fed whom
In fact, the fact that Lithuania, like the other Baltic and many other Soviet republics, received much more from the Union budget than they did, is shown by simple figures.
Firstly, thanks to the USSR, Lithuania substantially acquired territorially. In 1940, its area was one third smaller. And the country retained extended borders after leaving the USSR in 1991. Vilnius and Klaipeda regions, as well as part of the Suwalk region, crossed Lithuania from Poland on the basis of the 1945 border agreement. Moreover, even before the Great Patriotic War, Moscow spent 7,5 million zlotys or 31,5 Reichsmarks for the purchase of the Suvalky ledge with an area of ​​more than 8 thousand km (the current area of ​​Lithuania is 65,3 thousand km). For comparison: this is more than three times the territory of Moscow. How much do these territories cost?
In addition, before the war, Lithuania was an agricultural country, and agriculture suffered greatly from the war. According to various estimates, the damage to the republic from the war as a whole amounted to $ 30 billion. Almost all energy, plants, transport, bridges, ports were also destroyed.
The Union budget has invested enormously in the creation of the machine tool, light and chemical industries of Lithuania. Two fertilizer factories, an artificial fiber plant, and an oil refinery were built. The food industry and mechanical engineering appeared in the republic. Houses, roads, ferries were built, the port of Klaipeda was restored. A ship repair plant has appeared in Klaipeda. The Kaunas Hydroelectric Power Station, the Elektrenai TPP and the Ignalina NPP (closed in the post-Soviet era) are the entire Soviet legacy. In many ways, the Lithuanians continue to use that infrastructure to this day.
The Soviet Union also raised the republic's agriculture, invested in medicine, education, culture, in the construction of health centers and in sports. The annual gratuitous subsidies to the Lithuanian SSR from union funds amounted to 1 billion rubles (at the then official dollar exchange rate of 60 kopecks). As a result, Lithuania received over 40 billion rubles from the funds.
In the Soviet years, the population of Lithuania only increased: from 2,5 million people in 1940 to 3,7 million people in 1990.

The myth of high productivity

The arguments about the “higher labor productivity” in the Baltic states, deduced from the thesis about some special industriousness of Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians, compared with other residents of the USSR, are also easily refuted with the help of statistics.
According to the Sovetskaya Rossiya newspaper for 1992, in 1985 in Lithuania consumption amounted to 23,9 thousand dollars per capita per year, and production - only 13 thousand dollars, in 1989 - they consumed 26,1 thousand dollars per year against production by 15,6 thousand dollars, in 1990 - 23,3 thousand dollars against 13 thousand dollars (in 1990 prices). Lithuanians consumed an average of 10 thousand dollars a year more than they produced. A similar situation was observed, by the way, in both Estonia and Latvia (the latter was a little “more modest").
In other words, the Lithuanians in Soviet times lived beyond their means, earned and spent more than they worked. In the Baltics, there were some of the highest salaries in the Union. Estonia was in the first place in salaries, in the second RSFSR, in the third and fourth - Latvia and Lithuania (above or about 300 rubles).
How was this possible? Due to huge investments from the Union budget, gratuitous deductions from Moscow. The Union budget was replenished by 75% at the expense of the RSFSR.
Moreover, the EU, which includes Lithuania, is doing the same thing today. According to open data, annual Brussels subsidies to Lithuania amount to 1,6-1,9 billion euros.

Will Vilnius invoice Brussels?

At the same time, it is worth thinking about what the EU has done in recent years for the development of Lithuania, after its accession in 2004. Nobody preserved industry, the country returned to where it came from - to its agar past. Active citizens of the country began to leave their homeland en masse and go to work in the same England or the Netherlands, where it is possible to work not only as a fisherman or farmer.
The infrastructure inherited from the USSR is worn out, Lithuania itself does not have money for its repair and restoration, but the EU does not. The Ignalina nuclear power plant, which at one time delivered the two most powerful units in the world, was shut down in 2009 at the direction of Brussels. The new Visaginas were never built in the country, and one of the reasons was the reluctance to turn to the Russian Rosatom for help.
The blocks of TPP Elektrenai are only just beginning to close due to reluctance to invest in their repair. Kaunas Hydroelectric Power Station is still the largest primary energy source for Lithuania. Brussels does not even think about supporting Lithuanian infrastructure. The EU only supports dubious projects such as the Klaipeda LNG terminal, through which Lithuanians now have to buy more expensive liquefied gas than the Russian pipeline. This is only an approximate calculation of the losses that Lithuania suffered from joining the European Union. Unfortunately, in Vilnius they prefer to fight the phantoms of the so-called “Soviet occupation”.

As they say, everything is laid out on the shelves.
Only the guys are used to living beautifully beyond their means, and so they are drawn to such fabrications

[weksha50]

lline
"The infrastructure inherited from the USSR is worn out, Lithuania itself does not have money for its repair and restoration, but the EU does not give"....

That's at the expense of Russia and they want to restore this infrastructure ...

[Basil50]

The economic failure of all the Baltic countries and Poland is evident in the fact that they violated the basis of the economy - they stole fixed assets, not just profit. RUSSIA, in memory of friendship, fed the economy with cheap raw materials and buying goods, so the collapse was so long.

[nekot]

Lithuania, the poorest of the Balts, subsidized the entire USSR))) Who is stopping the EU from subsidizing them now, under capitalism and "freedom" the economy should generally explode according to this logic?))))

[Coconut Tima]

The ratio of production and consumption in the USSR per capita (thousand dollars per year) for the Union republics in the period from 1985 to 1990.
These tables are taken from the newspaper "Soviet Russia" for 1992.

[ohtandur]

I do not dispute the plausibility of this table, but I’m interested, for example, for 1985, if we summarize the production of all Union republics and the consumption of them, then the situation arises that the USSR consumed (286,6) more than it produced (175,5). How so? After all, the USSR did not live at the expense of other countries like the United States. Then explain where the error is? What is the paradox?

[Asadullah]

Then explain where the error is? What is the paradox?

No paradox. See the year 92nd. The country has already rolled into a debt hole to reduce production. Data should be taken selectively, so the dynamics of 80-88 will show completely different numbers.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: ohtandur

How so? After all, the USSR did not live at the expense of other countries like the United States. Then explain where the error is? What is the paradox?

Apparently, it was in the fact that since 1985, the USSR began active external borrowing, which every next year only increased.

[mark2]

Then explain where the error is? What is the paradox?

There is no paradox. You probably did not see that the cap says "Per capita" And now multiply the population in the republics by the numbers in the table and you will get exactly what you need. For example, in the RSFSR in 1989 there were 147400000 people. multiply by 17.5 thousand dollars. we get 2 trillion 579 billion 500 million dollars. And the consumption of 1 trillion. 886 billion 200 million of that. the difference is 693 billion 300 million.

And so in all the republics you can walk

Thus, it turns out that the total income of the RSFSR could completely feed another 4-5 republics

[ohtandur]

I get it. Thank you, but I did not pay attention to the fact that it is to the soul. And the population is different in the republics.

[Mountain shooter]

Everything is simple. There is also PERFORMANCE performance. And consumption. In the Baltics lived (in all) 5 million, and in the RSFSR - as now, 150 million. So the difference was covered - we have 1 Rusichs in 30 Baltic. Which produced far more than they consumed ...

[Gormenghast]

This is per capita; You can not stupidly summarize the numbers.

Roughly speaking, the RSFSR, with the largest population, could well provide many small ridges.

Or: it is necessary to multiply 286,6 by the population of the RSFSR and, accordingly, multiply 175,5 by the population of the burials (for each republic separately, and then add it). There must be an equivalent.

[Reptiloid]

But do you, dear, don’t you understand that at your table they will interchange the colors in the symbols .. Tint, glue ---- everything will be the other way around, as if they were the bestowers. This will be for them document. They won’t find anything else.

[weksha50]

Coco Tim
"These tables are taken from the newspaper" Soviet Russia "for 1992"...

The dynamics in the RSFSR is interesting ... Productivity grew, while consumption fell ...
And of the Baltic states, the most consumer republic was Estonia, which consumed slightly less than Georgia ...
Involuntarily you begin to understand why the Balts and Georgians hate Russia ... After all, they have deprived them of such laf !!!

[DMoroz]

Quote: Vladimirets

“Prove that Lithuania was a donor in the Soviet Union”

In general, the stamp presented in the article shows the entire contribution of the Lithuanian SSR to the economy of the USSR.

And all their cost

[Vladimir 38]

They (Ukraine, Lithuania, etc.) there are Americans fed with something special, everyone has the same symptoms, and hence the disease))

[s.melioxin]

... documents on the donor role of Lithuania in the USSR cannot be found by definition, ...

Yeah. They did not live badly, but if there were fewer such "donors", they might live better. Now in the EU ... the squad would not have noticed the loss of a soldier ... Tired of whining. The fate is not enviable.

[behemot]

we were donors, they fed the whole of Russia, this one, give denyuzhek, otherwise we have nothing to eat. Beats.

[masiya]

Yes the disease grows stronger

[fif21]

1721 Peace of Nishtadt - The Swedes sold the Baltic to Peter for 2 million "efimoks". Duke of Courland Biron sold Courland to Russia for 2 million rubles. What kind of occupation are we talking about? And the debt of the USSR is paid by the Russian Federation, it also has a share of the Baltic "Tigers". The question is, what damage did the Balts bring to the Russian Federation, and when will they compensate it?

[OLD FART]

I remember in the 90s the Balts came out on top in the export of non-ferrous metal ...)))) The channel dried up, like their sprats milk ... I personally don't buy anything of theirs in principle (and they are no longer sold now). times of the USSR, they invested a lot of money in the development of industry .. They produced good goods! Everything has been ruined and now they are whining, as in other "fraternal" ones ... In the days of the USSR, the Balts did not live badly, I was there in my youth and it was very insulting .. Why are they so good (then they looked at us like animals from the RSFSR) ... All production in the Urals, period! We have more reliable ...

[Red_Hamer]

They've been hanging around for a quarter of a century, looking for where to hide the free money. According to the "Olympic" principle, they will try, with the help of "their partners", to insolently throw us at many, many lards ye. Subsidies from Europe will soon end! So they are inventing sources of income, because there is a lot of arrogance, but the reality is harsh, and will soon come!

[Aandrewsir]

Well, since the commission has started searching, it will definitely find it. Have you sent an order to the states for manufacturing? There and not such "cooked". Anyway, no one will conduct an examination. The states and gayrope will take their word for it.

[sl3]

Beggars made fun. Donors, all life with outstretched hands.

[Evgenijus]

Maybe they will find it from the documents of that time, or maybe they will hide it. The Ignalina nuclear power plant was built by the entire Union, one Republic, and now it is beyond its power, there is no money to close the old one, everyone is asking the EU. Yes, not only Ignalina was built on union money. Refinery in Mazeikiai - the largest in the south-west of the former USSR, Akmene cement plant, Ionava chemical plant "Azotas", now it is called "Achema Group", Kaunas was full of industry, military helicopters were repaired, the machine-tool plant was not frail, but in Klaipeda the largest shipyard. Where did the navy come from? True, now the horns and legs remain from him. I'm not talking about Vilnius. This list can be increased and increased. Where does the small Republic have such money? Yes, there was a return to the budget of the Union, but investment must also be taken into account. To their school, to first grade, to a lesson in arithmetic ...

[kaserog]

I’m not talking about Vilnius.

yes yes - it would be necessary to return

[volodya]

Were you farmers before the USSR and now farmers will be bz Russia!

[Comrade Glebov]

I don't want to say anything bad about ordinary Lithuanians - they are also our people. But the statements of their "foresters" and "ershers" in the genre of "the heel is the main vital organ" do not even cause laughter.

[Zebus]

And what, purely laugh !!!!

[APASUS]

And I still think, why, having oil and gas, countless deposits of ores and minerals, we can’t get out of jo ... we can’t?
We lost the locomotive of the Lithuanian SSR, the second Singapore, the third after Saudi Arabia !!!
Here there the population probably drinks mineral water from golden disposable cups ????

[starshina78]

If Lithuania was an economic donor of the USSR, then I am a Spanish pilot !!!

[Taygerus]

to see for sure they ate sprats there, but to see even with mushrooms interfered

[Hannibal Lecter]

"Providelzdva" and "Ersperdov" ". Return the cons, otherwise the site will turn into a trash heap for minors

[1536]

Well what to quote them all, these Baltic states. They would give them money from the UN, or something, they would calm down. People cannot live independently, and, therefore, they will live dependent. What to do with them? It is necessary to create and organize nature reserves on the basis of such countries, recreational zones free of armies and weapons.

[Halfunra]

Yes, my mother-in-law worked in a knitting factory; roofing felts of Kaunas, or another. Knitwear - underwear.
Such bullshit, in knitwear cabinets, knitwear everywhere. They dragged everything. Once dressed and rags. After all kinds of washing, shit!
Moreover, the raw materials were excellent, and they released shit!

[Mountain shooter]

Milk, pork and potatoes are all that were in Lithuania when it came to the USSR. Yes, google the population in the republic in the post-war years, and after the 91st. Monstrous numbers. With their "nezalezhnosti" they staged a real genocide in their own country! Is this a legacy of the USSR?

[nikcris]

In addition.
Before Lithuania there were Brest-Grodno-Lida. It seems the same "zapadenschina". BUT!!! How pleasant the Belarusians were. Both Catholics and Orthodox. Even the cops))) On New Year's Eve in Grodno we hung out at the city tree. An officer approaches.
- Where are you from? Why not at home?
- We are from Uralsk, we live in the "Grodno" hotel, across the street.
- Ahhh ... Well ... Happy New Year!

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

Lithuania was an economic donor of the USSR

Only one question - why after leaving the USSR they began to live so badly ???

[victorrat]

It is ridiculous that adults who have some kind of education are seriously engaged in this nonsense. After all, everyone knows that after the war Lithuania was destroyed, the USSR raised it. He rebuilt cities, enterprises, respected its language and culture. Who are the Lithuanians? Former Slavs who for some reason consider themselves Europeans)))
Does Russia need Lithuania? No way! Yes, and what is there in Lithuania? But nothing! Can they provide for themselves? Not! Live on loans. And it is good that now they do not live at the expense of Russia. And to search, so let them search))) Probably, loans from the IMF will go to this search, but in the meantime, Lithuania will no longer remain. Will die out.

[eskela]

this is the number, on the contrary, but oh well that they live so poorly now.

[Sidel45]

And we plowed ...

[Mimocrocodile]

Why is it that bad for me, a person who knows that the Baltic SSR retained 80% of GDP and only 20 were sent to the Union budget (for comparison, the RSFSR has 10 and 90, respectively)?

[lablizn]

Judging by the tables, everyone who squeals the most (well, maybe, except for Ukraine) in the sworn "Sovdepia" ate better than anyone else. From now on to us science, look where you are thrusting your money!

[moskowit]

"... You have nothing. You are HUNGER !!!" (from the great movie "Beware of the Car")

[Mentat]

Quote: Asadullah

in our city center (private sector) it is still not there ...

This is also the contribution of Lithuania. Give the last to the distant, forgetting about loved ones. When quarters of high-rise buildings were built in Lithuania, for which they also gave the Lenin Prizes, in the Urals there were cities from the greenhouses removed from the rail. In which lived veteran veterans. My grandfather, the Hero of War, kept curia in order to feed his family, quietly, risking a party card. The development of the republics annexed by the Covenant, the crime of the leadership of the USSR before its people who survived the war. As well as assistance to Africa and other blacks.

There was hope that we could change the world economic system. But it was, of course, utopia. It was necessary to develop ourselves, first of all.

[Reptiloid]

I think that blacks remember the good much longer than the Baltic states and Ukrainians than Romanians and Poles.
I am now reviewing the books left to me from my grandmother, a communist, and a personal pensioner. The USSR wanted to make friends all, to develop their national self-identity. Some Baltic authors! Romanian, Hungarian? ... Funds were spent ... In different areas this happened .. a sad picture .........

[Gormenghast]

In 1990, the ratio of production / consumption in the RSFSR was 17,5 / 11,8. Here it was (along with Belarus) a donor republic.

In Lithuania it was 13,0 / 23,3, respectively. In Latvia - 16,5 / 26,9. And, to the heap, in Estonia - generally 15,5 / 35,8. These republics devoured substantially more than they produced. Even when there was industry.

At present, without industry, the main source of national income for the Baltic states is the irrevocable EU subsidies for equalization. Without them, the state budget deficit of each of these republics (and, by the way, Poland as well) will be 20%. This is absolutely monstrous; worse than in the permanently scarce USA.

Grants will end sooner or later; sooner rather than later; until 2018 are calculated. After the burghers get tired of paying for the sodomite whims of the proud little sloppoks, all these under-republics will collapse. Everyone will run away, even legless ones (even if the Schengen survives by this time). In place of the Baltic tigers there will be a wild desert, with the ruins of Soviet factories, bridges and power plants. And in Riga and Vilnius, gangs of wild Wahhabis pop their nests, terrifying the entire district.

[Reptiloid]

And if pieces fall off from the EU ----- subsidies will decrease faster. Maybe the number of Baltic states will decrease. Before the collapse of the USSR, there were a total of 3 million, now only 2.

[colonel manuch]

As the saying goes: "dumkoy richer!"

[Flat5160]

Well, thank God! Finally, enlightenment came, and I thought where we had victories in space and so on, so on, so on .... In short, if it weren’t for Lithuania!

[roman72-452]

What's in the head of these farmers? They will find the opposite.

[Amcastor]

Now Lithuania is the "donor" of the European Union.

[pvv113]

Vilnius: Lithuania was an economic donor of the USSR

Humor is already in the title. Vilnius i.e. Vilnius city, as well as the region, were presented to Lithuania by the Soviet Union !!!

Agreement on the transfer to the Republic of Lithuania of the city of Vilnius and the Vilnius Region and on mutual assistance between the Soviet Union and Lithuania
...
ARTICLE I.
In order to consolidate the friendship between the USSR and Lithuania mountains. Vilnius and Vilnius region are transferred by the Soviet Union to the Republic of Lithuania with their inclusion in the state territory of Lithuania and the establishment of the border between the USSR and the Republic of Lithuania according to the attached map, moreover, this border will be described in more detail in the additional protocol.

Well, etc .... http://www.oldgazette.ru/lib/propagit/20/13.html

[39GB]

Zhmudins have become very bad. Maybe the sun was baked, last summer, or were the manure overburned smoked? They rave, however! They themselves began to go to the toilet only under the Soviet regime, they spoiled around the farms.

[verb]

In the 80s, I was in Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, at the largest radio plants. We installed and set up our Gorky system there for testing mounted PCBs. I looked at how regulators work there. For 1,5 , They fulfill the monthly norm for 2-XNUMX weeks, and get twice as much as in Russia. Yes and everywhere, Makhachkala, Frunze, Tashkent, Samarkand work less and get more than for similar work in Russia. all.

[Mordvin 3]

Tell me, namesake, why did radio stations switch to bourgeois waves? And then I have such a suspicion that in this way they destroyed our radio industry. There is "Ocean 209", so except for Radio Russia, it does not catch anything imported nonsense. And the sound is good.

[potapych]

If there is VHF then go to fm, like two fingers on the asphalt. in the tuning coil of the VHF range 2 turns you remove and listen to the FSE fm.

[Thompson]

Hatred and insanity always go side by side.

[ochakow703]

First, give Petrovsky efimki, for which your sovereignty was redeemed from the Swedes, and then consider how much debt Russia (the successor to the USSR) will have for the created infrastructure, industry, etc. He smells a heart not in your favor balance will be!

[tolmachiev51]

He lived in the USSR for 50 years and did not know that Lithuania fed me !!! What a news !!! In general, the balts are completely fucked up !!!

[aleks700]

Bravo! Here they’re lighting up. Harness.

[potapych]

count not count, and as soon as the hangers-off fell off it became better

[Wolka]

maybe Lithuania was the USSR’s economic donor, but only after the USSR invested in this territory corresponding multiple investments, otherwise why invest yourself at a loss, and gentlemen from Soros?

[olafcik]

all that Lithuania could give... was forest and brothers...

[Phosgene]

In Lithuania, it seems they have started smoking opium

[varakin_54]

No matter how they burst, puffing out their cheeks, from their importance.

[saltickov.]

It was Russia that was the donor to all the union republics, why did we just forgive them everything. I remember how in Kyrgyzstan the cashier was running around and couldn’t give a hundred rubles salary to a hard worker, but he would buy a bag of flour, make flatbreads, sell him such a profit to him these hundred rubles like that. And This is in all the republics, it wasn’t just flatbreads, they were selling something else. Without Russia, it seems a little bad.

[trantor]

In my opinion, insolvency is proven by the very need to prove consistency.

Oops, that was a pun

[Damask]

How can a state of 4 million with a tiny territory, without useful income, feed and be a donor to a state of 200 million, damn stupid people.

[Sars]

And it was mainly the current “non-citizens” who worked in industry.
Lithuania owes them money!

[Disorder]

A flag in their hands, a drum on their neck.
Let them look more carefully, otherwise they will dig up so much that they will be left without panties.