A look into the past

I do not dare to be annoying in the memories of his service in the formidable form of the troops - the Strategic Missile Forces. On the Internet, I saw enough photos about the P-12 missile system, which in the west was called “Sandal”. Sandalwood in nature - a tree with a wide crown. If you process a snapshot of this tree in Photoshop, transferring the snapshot to contour processing mode, and in black and white, it will look like a snapshot of a nuclear explosion.

Looking through the Internet images of this complex, drew attention to the staging of these images. There are even in the color image, such beautiful rockets, in a new special protection number of calculations. In reality, there was nothing colored in combat training on this complex. There was hellish work in gas masks and rubber, in any weather and time of year and day. There was a gas yellow-brown mist from the oxidant vapors in complex occupations with a КРТ filling station, a terrible stench from the fuel spilled on the concrete launch pad. There were leaks of terrible acid from the loose connection of flanges, burns and injury to the numbers of calculations. From rubber boots poured the sweat after removing the rocket from the launch pad.

During the period of combat duty, inspectors came from overseas, inspected the premises of the complex, asked the missiles to roll on the piezoelectric transducers - to check whether they were filled up or not. Shel 1990 year - time to fulfill the shameful contract to reduce the INF. Under these conditions, with the permission of the opera, some officers took photographs of the history combat complex. I did not stay aside. For a long time my films were lying, the hard times of the 90-s did not allow me to go about translating them into a figure. But now retired, remembered them. I want to share my photo archive with VO readers. There will be questions - I will answer as much as possible and if there is time.

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  1. +6
    9 September 2016 06: 45
    Yeah, it seems more than one she sent to the hospital ....
  2. +11
    9 September 2016 06: 51
    Thank you so much for the article, the memories and of course in the photo. It has real life, real people, and a real cast of that era - as it was. Such photos are of great value. They take us there and give us the opportunity to really connect mentally with that beingness, with that country. Thank you once again for that.
    Regarding the complex. Of course he is very widely known. After all, it was P-12 that was installed on the cube. This is our first ballistic complex, faithfully serving the fatherland for more than 30 years. It is very pleasant to surprise how one of the first first elements of the USSR’s nuclear shield was put on alert.
  3. +5
    9 September 2016 07: 10
    This is an 8K65 rocket, the so-called. ground launch .. Some of them were on alert in the Baltic States. By the 90s, the complex was hopelessly outdated. The scheme of preparation for launch repeats the German FAU-2. The pictures show a launch pad with a removable frame, a control panel for installing a rocket, the work of a calculation during transportation of a railway. transport. not without formalism: the numbers of the crews are "washed" in gas masks and L-1, and next to the command goes "without all this." There is nothing you can do that is supposed to be a lion, not a kitten.
    1. +13
      9 September 2016 08: 19
      Thank you for your attention to my photo collection. There is an amendment to your comment, The pictures show the rocket 8K63 (Р12). Only in Lithuania there were three regiments on combat duty, given the second volley, it would be 48 missiles with megaton combat units. In the last photo, the commander of the regiment is in the foreground, and in the background is a political worker in his overcoat.
      1. +8
        9 September 2016 10: 20
        I not only meant it. In the first photo, where the rocket is lying on the transport cart. The soldiers are in defense, and who is in front of the coupling device? In the brigade where I served, during the training they gave the command "Put on the protective kit! Gases." The brigade commander, turning around, saw Captain Kiselevich's nachchem smoking calmly.
        Commander: What are you, Captain Kiselevich?
        Kiselevich: I am the controlling person!
        Commander: I give you a severe reprimand and, in general, you are "killed"!
        In one of the regiments, the commander was Colonel Mylnikov, Chief of Staff Lieutenant Colonel Pylnikov, and the chief of staff was Captain Rylnikov. As the orders were being read on Monday, everyone was laughing. since each order ended in part: "Commander of the unit of the Pylnikov regiment, the chief of staff of the Mylnikov regiment. And everything was added by the nachkhim Rilnikov. Health, happiness, success in everything to those who served on ground-based missile systems 8K51, 63, 65,75 and mine 8K67,84,15A14,15,18,20,30.
        1. +2
          9 September 2016 10: 26
          In front of the "drawbar" of the transport cart without special protection - the deputy regiment commander for armament, Lieutenant Colonel I.V. That is to say, came for general control. wink
          1. +2
            9 September 2016 11: 42
            That's what I mean. "To whom lemons, to whom boxes of lemons!" Everything was so because during the time it took to launch the first 8K63 missile from constant combat readiness. a nuclear war could have ended 5 times. Where the launch took place in a few minutes after the command was received, no one allowed any liberties.
            1. +2
              9 September 2016 13: 08
              Quote: rubin6286
              Everything was so because during the time it took to launch the first 8K63 rocket out of constant combat readiness.

              ... uv. comrade, you just forget that by the hour "X" up to the seconds R-12 and his dog R-14, R-16 in a "single impulse" should have gone to the foe!
              It doesn't take a lot of mind to understand - all these missiles were "first strike", ie. "preventive". We wrote a lot about this in the topic about Cuba ...

              They never rose above the "elevated" one, which means that the situation did not have time to reach a critical one. Otherwise, everything went and would go differently ...
              1. +3
                9 September 2016 14: 55
                I do not know what's with Cuba. At the combat starting position of the ground complex 8K75 (in the regiment) there were 2 launchers. The first missile from constant combat readiness leaves after 3 hours 12 minutes, and the second after 1 hour 58 minutes. American missiles from the continental part reach the territory of the USSR in 30 minutes, from submarines -20 minutes. No advance transfer of units with ground launchers to higher combat readiness for the first strike against the enemy can not be carried out secretly and therefore impossible
                1. +1
                  9 September 2016 17: 08
                  Quote: rubin6286
                  No advance transfer of units with ground launchers to the highest levels of combat readiness for the first strike against the enemy can be carried out secretly and therefore impossible

                  ... that means you knew nothing about readiness and launches "at the appointed time", as well as about readiness and launches with "full" ...
                  1. +3
                    9 September 2016 18: 31
                    During the period of my service in the Strategic Missile Forces, and then in parts of the GUKOS (predecessor of the Aerospace Forces), I took part in the implementation of more than 200 FIR (as the launch is conventionally called). I don’t think I didn’t know anything about which you are writing. Our sworn "partners" are warned about the launch at the appointed time through certain channels. With regard to launches from full combat readiness, then part of it is gradually transferred from constant, and then increased combat readiness. At the same time, a set of measures is carried out, which, as a rule, are detected by enemy reconnaissance means. The conversion of ground-based launchers to the highest degree of BG is detected faster than mine launchers and sea-based launchers. Constant control is established and conducted over the territory of a potential enemy. If you carried a DB to the Strategic Missile Forces, then you know what an AES-1,2,3 is and for what they are intended.
                    1. +3
                      9 September 2016 18: 59
                      Quote: rubin6286
                      Our sworn "partners" are being warned about the launch at the appointed time through certain channels.

                      ... this is somewhat wrong.
                      Until about the mid-70s in the docks of the BU there was such a concept "order to carry out a launch at the appointed time", designated as "PV XXXX", i.e. start-up during XX hours XX min. The old "Signal" equipment had a corresponding button "PV XXXX" and a banner.
                      In practice, this meant "preemptive strike" ...

                      Then all this was withdrawn, by the way, approximately at the time when the P-16 and its "classmates" were being filmed ...
                      If you captured these times, then during the exercises these readiness was worked out with the gradual reduction of forces and means to these PV XXXX.
                      And as for the satellites, we took into account the "windows" ...
                      1. +2
                        9 September 2016 20: 04
                        Probably, from our side, the strike should be preemptive, but after the regiment arrived at the command post using the "Signal" ACS equipment, the information of PX XXX and its duplication by other systems ("" Blizzard, etc.) the transition of the missile system from one readiness to another. This translation was detected on the "old" RCs earlier than on the new ones, and the one striking this blow received a guaranteed response within a maximum of 10 minutes. There are no winners in such a war.
      2. +2
        9 September 2016 13: 43
        Quote: Evgenijus
        Thank you for your attention to my photo collection.

        Thanks for the article and the photo!
        I hope here - http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php/topic,1
        2553.msg92105.html # new
        also lay out (or already?)

        There is also a "last parade" 151rp ...
        1. +1
          12 September 2016 10: 58
          Thanks for the link to an interesting site. There are interesting photographs there. I do not know whether to upload my photos there. Need registration, activity. I have photographs of individual groups of fighters at the rocket, but they are for personal use, showy. I didn’t dare to put these on public display. There is also a photo of the missile's departure for the "execution" ... One of my photos (still in the archive) contains an interesting detail - how they marked training missiles from combat ones, so that US inspectors would not count the training missiles as combat ones. For this, a hole was made in the inner cavity of the combustion chambers by welding. We forgot to add one training missile to the list, but we discovered this mistake a day before the arrival of the inspection team. It’s a habit to urgently bury it with a bulldozer in the sand on a steep slope in the territory of the regulation group. Night fell, and then a thunderstorm, a heavy downpour. The rocket has been washed out of the sand, stabilizers stick out of the ground, and the bulldozer is faulty. I was no longer a witness to how we got out of that situation safely.
      3. +1
        10 December 2016 20: 32
        In the 80s he served on such in Estonia (Võru). Thanks for the pictures !!!
        1. +1
          11 December 2016 21: 08
          Thank you for attention! wink
      4. 0
        3 February 2019 22: 21
        Good day! how to contact you? my mail [email protected]
    2. +1
      10 September 2016 08: 20
      rubin6286 Yesterday, 07:10
      "This is an 8K65 rocket, the so-called ground launch" ....

      In the Stryisky regiment (Vinnytsia missile army) there were two ground divisions, and one was mine ... The remaining 3 regiments were only with ground starts ...
  4. PKK
    9 September 2016 07: 58
    Looked at old photos? I got excited, but what next? I did not write how much "fire water" was consumed, which is interesting. I did not write that I was given leave if I found a surface defect on the regulations of the containers. There was a kettle with alcohol on the table and everyone, officers and soldiers, drank during a smoke break.
    Not many of you left with liquid rockets, many prematurely lost both health and life.
    All the same, your service. Feat guys, I then got on the cockroaches in the part where there was the 64th complex before. Several captains and majors came to us and they told us in simple words.
    But these words turned the soul over. Respect to you The guys who served on liquid are incomparable.
    1. +3
      9 September 2016 08: 22
      If you are interested in the missile service, I described one of its episodes here: http://www.proza.ru/2013/01/23/127
      I hope the moderator will not scold me for a link to another site. ...
    2. +2
      9 September 2016 13: 14
      Quote: PKK
      There was a teapot with alcohol on the table and everyone drank both officers and soldiers during a smoke break.

      ... come on you. There was none. In any case, with us ...
      1. +1
        12 September 2016 12: 01
        Alcohol was, but not on the table ...
        On combat duty, so generally dry law, even without sincere conversations with political workers.
        Offer the astronaut a glass of intoxicating drink on the ISS, for example, will you agree before going into space? And this was not in my thoughts. Two megatons in the "head" and alcohol? We're not crazy ... wink
    3. +2
      9 September 2016 18: 50
      Alcohol in the Strategic Missile Forces was issued according to the norms during monthly, semi-annual and annual maintenance. These works were triple control operations, so a soldier could only drink alcohol if he was stolen. Of course, such cases sometimes happened. It’s a sin to hide, officers after MOT always had at least a flask. There was a tradition in the combat units (regiments): after the launch, the officers of the combat crew. From the unit commander to the operator, the PUs gathered at the PU and drank 30 grams each, eating black bread. I was told that this tradition was brought from Cuba, where in the 60s years was my part. The soldier, by this time, had all been sent to the barracks area and none of them were there.
    4. +1
      10 September 2016 08: 31
      PKK Yesterday, 07:58
      Looked at old photos? I got excited, but what next? Alcohol? How much "fire water" did not write, but it's interesting.There was a kettle with alcohol on the table and all the officers and soldiers drank during the break.
      Few of you are left with liquid-propellant rockets, many have prematurely lost both health and life "...

      Hmm ... We often had an ordinary faceted decanter with alcohol, and at the bottom there was always a handful of silver contacts ... So it was "more aesthetically pleasing" ... laughing hi
      PS As for the soldiers - I did not understand ...
  5. +2
    9 September 2016 09: 08
    In the second and fourth photographs, the bottom edge of the rocket is jammed — how can I explain this? Norm? It turns out you regularly tucked-drained-raised-lowered them?
    Infernal service, with respect ...
    1. +3
      9 September 2016 10: 03
      There were training missiles in the shelves. where personnel training was held. As a rule, 3 times a month daytime and one night.
    2. +7
      9 September 2016 10: 04
      Most likely you took the cover on the edging of the tail compartment for the wrinkle. It is made of rubberized fabric to protect the numbers of settlements from flowing liquids. Each starting battery was refueled with a training rocket (index "D") twice a year, once in winter, another time in summer, alternating day and night. The cycle of refueling in the regiment lasted a month, the armament service (officers) spent this month completely at the launch sites. It was a fun time! Yes, in the neighboring regiments and divisions were recruited for these purposes as part of "enemy" instructor groups.
      And simple exercises with training missiles (index "U") each battery carried out once a week, not counting sudden checks from all echelons of the Strategic Missile Forces command echelon.
      1. +1
        9 September 2016 13: 51
        Thanks for the prompt answer: =) And here's another question that torments me for a long time. While serving in the SSVG 80-82, I had to participate in the construction of a vertical mine for underground launch. The Abraham was still the same, they injected him for two days — they slept dead for a day, and the cooks could not wake him up.
        Mine, I’ll inform you it was cyclopean, it was scary to approach the edge, not to look down. Who knows what should have been placed there? After all, under those agreements, it seems like we couldn’t place such a thing in the GDR?
        1. +1
          27 December 2016 23: 49
          About your mine can not say anything. Not for our missiles, it was most likely as an underground command post prepared for the headquarters of the group of forces.
          Sorry for the late reply wink
  6. PKK
    9 September 2016 09: 10
    Quote: Evgenijus
    nya, 08:22 ↑ ↓ New
    If you are interested in the missile service, I described one of its episodes here: http://www.proza.ru/2013/01/23/127
    Thanks Eugenius, I myself am the same rocket launcher. I would love to work at the Pioneers now, but they were blown up, but there is no replacement yet.
  7. +2
    9 September 2016 11: 13
    Bother that he served in Topoli, where the command "To the table" implied somewhat different actions than yours wink
    The photos are unique, we would have bitten them for such specials.
    1. +6
      9 September 2016 11: 30
      When I approached the person about filming, he said - no! I answer, asking - and they can? And I show civilians in the crowd with backpacks under the windows of the headquarters. These were US inspectors. Then the person said, leave me alone, you did not approach me, I did not see you ...
      The inspectors were allowed to enter any room in the complex where the gates or doors were larger than the 0.7 meter. They enter the vehicle fleet of the division, walked to the twisted doors with a wicket. Open, they say! They opened it, and there is darkness. Ours from the escort group in the bustle pull out of the field bags lights, but they do not light up! Then one of the inspectors fumbled in his backpack and took out his searchlight. In his beam, everyone sees a skewed number ZIL 157 front end. There was a pause ... The translator referred the question to one of the inspectors: have you had this since the revolution? .Politician at this point was not there. There were also Hochma from these meetings, but this is no longer in this thread.
      1. +2
        9 September 2016 11: 54
        In our unit, "foreign" inspectors were surprised to see soldiers in white coats. "What have you got here?" - Pointing to the closed door, asked one of them. Without waiting for anyone, Private Zhirkov blurted out: "An underground abortion clinic!"
    2. +2
      10 September 2016 08: 41
      colonel Yesterday, 11:13
      "Be bothered that he served in Topoli, where the command" To the table "implied somewhat different actions than yours" ...

      Hm ... The command "To the table" is more related to the R-12 ...
      At least, in neighboring villages they rocketed the rockets all the time - sometimes the teams could be heard far from the megaphone ...
      And one of the regiments of the Lutsk division - in general, a rocket on the launch pad of one of the batteries was visible from a nearby passing Rivne-Brest highway ... We always wondered how it was that the special officers had not overlooked such an omission ...
  8. +1
    9 September 2016 14: 26
    I remembered that today, exactly 52 years old, when they were drafted into the army, into the rocket forces, the course of the young soldier took place in the city of Stryi, the Austrian-Hungarian barracks, continued in the 3rd mine-based division. The 2nd division in the engineering and technical personnel company, the life support service of the division. You will remember the smell of the oxidizer for the rest of your life, it is unbearable to stand on guard at the refueling post, so you constantly bypass the post around the perimeter. The smell resembles horse sweat or a herd at the same time "fired a volley". constantly after winter pulls out "snowdrops" bowls, spoons. This is where you need an oxidizer, it cleans the dishes to the state of "cat eggs". laughing I missed for a second, there is not a bowl, not a spoon. Neutralized with water. Regarding the hospital, during my service firefighters from the "Cuban" set washed the tank out of the oxidizer and the whole team ended up in the hospital, The reason for non-compliance with TB, they were without a gas mask, glory God didn't breathe, otherwise all life was over. Well, one of the eyes were set deep, did not get hit, his whole face was speckled, burned. They were discharged, discharged in 1965.
    1. +1
      10 September 2016 08: 50
      sgazeev Yesterday, 14:26
      “I remembered that today it was exactly 52 years ago that he was drafted into the army, into the rocket forces, the course of the young soldier took place in the city of Stryi ...
      After the winter, the head of the soldiers' canteen constantly pulls out the "snowdrops" bowls and spoons.This is where the oxidizing agent is needed,he cleans the dishes to the state of "cat eggs" "....

      Stryi, military unit 18376 ... 2nd division, and below - a lake in which there were a lot of crayfish and fish ...

      And such "lozhkoy" him and trawled in 1982 ... Even frogs and tadpoles jumped ashore ...
      In 1984 he was leaving for a new duty station, and the lake remained dead ...
      But even muskrats lived in it and next to it ...
    2. +1
      15 September 2016 18: 41
      I had to be at the time of the destruction of 8K63 missiles in a division located near Drogobych. For the Americans, the hotel located on the territory of the division was first-class decorated. Now, of course, such a finish would not have caused any surprise. And then we looked with admiration at the bar on the 1st floor, sparkling with plastic, oak flooring everywhere, chrome taps and heated towel rails in the bathrooms, carpets and furniture in the rooms. Most interesting, the Americans did not live in it for a single day, preferring to live in Intourist.
      1. +1
        4 September 2018 19: 47
        When our inspectors from the USA left, the duty shift of the regiment's command post was settled in their apartments. It was good to rest on soft super-fashionable beds for Americans. But the Americans themselves did not dare to look into that "hotel", especially with an overnight stay. They conducted all their meetings on the street, away from watchful eyes.
  9. +2
    9 September 2016 21: 12
    Quote: rubin6286
    This translation was detected on the "old" RCs earlier than on the new ones, and the one striking this blow within a maximum of 10 minutes received a guaranteed response. There are no winners in such a war.

    Colleague, everything is relative ...
    Those. when the 2-th generation of the Republic of Kazakhstan in the form of P-16, P-14, P-12 - was only adopted (the end of 50xx, the beginning of 60xx). Their opponents were mainly B-52 with thermonuclear bombs (the main carrier of US strategic nuclear forces then). The time to reach the ICBM PR, for example, in the Urals, was 10 hours. Accordingly, the preparation and launch time just fit into this time, taking into account all the work: autonomous, integrated at the start ... That is originally - 10 hours. Track the mass start of the B-52 was also not difficult ...

    Over time, with the advent of Minutemans and Polaris, the time shrank to 30 minutes. Naturally, it was not justified for the Union to rely on the 2nd generation, even with the reduction of the start-up time from "constant" to 3,5 hours.
    So the doctrine "PVCXXX" appears. But this does not mean that the USSR suddenly inflicts a "pre-emptive" one fine morning ...

    Consider the situation.
    You should know perfectly well that the "readiness" in the Strategic Missile Forces was then tied to the "international situation". When everything is quiet - "constant".
    Aggravates - higher. As the political workers read the "legend", "the international situation has escalated. The NATO Council has met ... etc., etc. In response, the Party Central Committee, the Council of Ministers, the Defense Ministry, the General Staff ... by a joint Decision ... translate ... parts of the Strategic Missile Forces on "high readiness" ...
    During the exercises, the political instructors further failed to track the "international situation" and then read the glorious "legend" - "as if suddenly" - an order came to "complete".
    Well, at full, these complexes could "stand" for a maximum - a month. Now imagine the reaction of "potential partners" - for example, all starts are busy outside the "window", but there are NO launches. And what should they do?
    They will begin, as it were, to "beat in response" to the "treacherous bringing to the full," - during the time of arrival - almost all the missiles will have time to leave. Will they wait? How many?
    And there is "PVCXXX" - they don't know WHEN ...

    For my memory, only 3 times the troops were actually brought into the "increased" ...
    And "PVCXXX" in the course of Thursday-Friday CT on entering the database - regularly, not counting KSHU without equipment ...
    1. +2
      10 September 2016 10: 18
      I agree about the relativity of assessing the aging of the complex. That is why new levels of combat readiness were introduced. Full combat readiness meant launching within half an hour. There was still half the last "squeak" of combat readiness - the highest. It meant launching a rocket within 5 minutes. But the complex could be in such readiness only for 30 minutes, because the involved onboard batteries and charged hydrogen peroxide guaranteed their characteristics only during this period of time. If there was no launch command during this period of time, then it was necessary to change the onboard batteries, the combat readiness decreased to full. I think this is no longer secret information, because the complex has been destroyed.
    2. 0
      10 September 2016 17: 39
      Again you do not understand me. Remember: war is a carefully planned event. The complex of measures carried out in the country in preparation for war is not comparable with the activities of a missile regiment when transferred to an increased and full BG. Forget this "political" nonsense once and for all. You have to look at the problem "shirsh". I think now you understand me.
  10. +3
    9 September 2016 21: 32
    R-12 was outdated by the 70s, so it was not a pity to let her write off. She fulfilled her task, defending the country in the early 60s. Missile weapons must be in constant readiness for launch and have high survivability, which implies the use of solid rockets on a mobile launch platform or liquid rockets in silos.
  11. +1
    12 September 2016 13: 05
    Thanks to the author, as if I visited my home start!
    1. +1
      28 November 2016 13: 25
      Thank you for your attention to my publication. wink

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