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Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented

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Chechen catastrophe could have been preventedExactly a quarter of a century ago, power in Chechnya passed into the hands of the separatists, resulting in two bloody wars. It is believed that Dzhokhar Dudayev was a fanatic with whom it was impossible to reach an agreement, and a radical Islam dictated a political agenda in Grozny at that time. In fact, these are just excuses with which the federal authorities tried to cover up their mistakes.


The date when the Supreme Council of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic declared a state of emergency in Grozny in connection with an attempt to forcibly seize power was considered to be almost the day of the proclamation of independence of Chechnya, although in fact this is not quite the case.

Moscow is silent

The seizure of power then began with a rally (we will not call it “Maidan,” although in Chechen the “square” is called the same way) in the center of Grozny, which had already manifested its national identity by the evening - the people began to dance zikr. But the main specific feature of Chechnya's summer of the year 1991 was the dual power. The united congress of the Chechen people (OKChN) gradually crowded out the Soviet and post-Soviet local authorities, replacing them with informal ones. The OKCHN itself grew out of the Chechen National Congress, which took place a year earlier, and initially represented the unification of the local intelligentsia and “respected people discussing issues of national culture”, which was usual for that time. By this he did not differ from the Lithuanian Sajudis or the Armenian National Movement (ANM), if not to consider that the Chechen Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic is not a union republic, but autonomy within the RSFSR without constitutional grounds for secession from the federation. But then such organizations appeared in almost every national region, and no one considered it necessary to fight them at the federal level, since they all "supported perestroika" and fit into its essence. And by and large, by that moment the federal government could not really fight with anyone, although it still blew its cheeks.

Under pressure from the OKChN, the Supreme Council of the Chechen Republic of the USSR back in November 1990 of the year adopted the “Declaration of State Sovereignty of the Chechen-Ingush Republic”, which the federal center missed. It was believed that local authorities should establish order by themselves, since for the first time in Soviet times, a Chechen by nationality, Doku Zavgayev, was appointed the first secretary of the local regional committee (formerly in the troubled republic all the top officials — from the first secretary to the KGB chief — were mostly Russian). Moreover, the Chechen-Ingush declaration of sovereignty seemed like a minor nuisance against the background of similar declarations of Tatarstan and Bashkiria. The general situation in the country was such that a single Ulyanovsk region imposed a ban on the export of meat and dairy products from its territory, threatening to put armed customs on the "border" - and she is alone.

It is considered that the catalyst for the sharp exacerbation of the situation in Chechnya was the Emergency Committee. This is not at all the case, since back in July 1991 of the year, more than a month before the putsch, the OKChN proclaimed itself the supreme authority in the Chechen Republic of the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, renaming the republic Nokhchi-Cho. On the night of 1 on 2 of September, 1991 of the year OCN announces the overthrow of the Supreme Council and the “transfer of power” to its Executive Committee, which will later be renamed the Provisional High Council (BBC). At the same time, he forms the National Guard, headed by the leader of the Islamic Way Party, Bislan Bes Gantamirov, a street gangster who picked up the likes of this guardian and “fraternal” to him.

The chairman of the OKCHN executive committee at that time was Major General Dzhokhar Dudayev, the former commander of the 326 th Tarnopolsky heavy bomber division stationed in Estonia (now there is a NATO base). Dudayev was considered to be an excellent handler, he was followed by a heavy reputation as a carpet bombardment specialist; he personally flew to the Khosta region in Afghanistan at the helm of Tu-22, working on the Mujahideen with a volume explosion bombs. He was considered a hot-tempered but honest officer, albeit strangely. He received the general and the Order of the Red Banner for his excellent organization during the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and the establishment of a charter order based in Estonia. At the same time, the path to the rank of general was revealed to him that he was a member of the CPSU and married to a Russian (Chechens and Ingush were reluctantly promoted in service, and, for example, the decision to award Ruslan Aushev the title of Hero of the Soviet Union for the defense of the Salang Pass was made directly to the Politburo) .

It is noteworthy that Dudayev quickly found a common language with the Estonians, and after the events in Lithuanian Vilnius he even declared that he would close the airspace if Soviet troops entered Estonia. Technically, he could not do it, but the Estonians liked it. Similarly, the artillery colonel Aslan Maskhadov - at that time the chief of staff and chairman of the officer corps of the Vilnius garrison - actually sabotaged orders from Moscow and from the headquarters of the Baltic Military District in Riga.

But back in Grozny. September 4 "guards" seize television and Radio House, after which Dudayev read out in a local broadcast statement that the Air Force assumes all power in the republic "before democratic elections." But we must understand that in the Air Force itself, unity was not even close. On the same night, an internal coup almost occurred there, and the result was a rapid radicalization of the situation in the city. In the morning of 5, the “guardsmen” seize the House of Trade Unions, in which the Air Force sat, and transfer all power to Dudayev. The following objects of seizure were the KGB building and the prosecutor's office, as well as the remand prison, from which all prisoners were released.

The Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR woke up only on September 9 and demanded that the "Guardsmen" surrender weapon and free the captured buildings, but Moscow - neither federal nor Russian - no longer controlled the situation in Grozny. Dudayev declared the demand of the RSFSR Supreme Soviet "provocation of an international scale aimed at perpetuating colonial domination," and for some reason declared Gazavat, although from a religious point of view he had no right to do so and apparently did not understand the religious meaning of these words.

Strange people

In face-to-face communication, Dudayev did not make the impression of a psychopath as he began to represent him. The oddities of his behavior were more likely to be counted by one-off actions in order to be remembered, to hit a stranger, or to shock his own environment to raise tribal authority.

In the presence of the author of these lines in the fall of 1991, Dudaev suddenly started a conversation that Moscow was ready to use “seismic weapons” against Chechnya, that is, to cause an artificial earthquake. It was a fashionable topic, in the spring an earthquake occurred in South Ossetia, and Armenia has not been forgotten yet, and so delusional for a Soviet senior officer aviation the text was not pronounced for Moscow guests, but for 18-19 year old guys in uniform black suits and short automatons who diligently played bodyguards, having seen enough in the basement video rooms of Hong Kong fighters. In the former house of receptions of the Chechen-Ingush regional party committee, Dudayev then sat on a carved chair with his back to the window (sniper's dream), and young people with machine guns froze in picturesque poses to the sides of this window, representing useless from a military point of view, but almost antique figures . From time to time, they looked behind the curtains, which looked quite comical, especially since before the start of the meeting it did not even occur to them to search the guests.

In those days, Dudayev’s power rested solely on such half-literate boys of two or three related tapes, before whom he played the all-powerful and all-knowing god, which is quite typical of the local mentality. The real power in the OKChN belonged to several gray cardinals from among the professional anti-Soviet nationalistic, but not religious, among whom were the brothers Temeshevs and Movladi Udugov, who were an order of magnitude superior to all others in sophistication of thinking. Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, who is considered to be almost the main ideologue of the Chechen nationalist splash of summer-autumn 1991, was more likely a puppet in the hands of people more cruel, cynical and cunning than the real leader. And what is especially important is that he was not a competitor in the struggle for power in the republic within and around the OKChN, as, say, Bagauddin Bakhmadov, who quickly descended from the arena, who until September 5 was for some reason considered a more promising figure than Dudayev. Ruslan Khasbulatov, who considered Bakhmadov “a threat to 1”, even speaking from the stage at a meeting of the Supreme Soviet of the Republic that ended in self-dissolution, did not take his eyes off him. Bakhmadov himself with a guard-boy in a Versace suit (in hungry 1991, such details were striking) and with the Israeli Mini-Uzi (it was almost impossible to get such in the USSR) defiantly late and wandered around the hall for a couple of minutes choosing a better place (cheap theater gesture, but in Chechnya it worked).

There was nothing religious in these people. Even the chairman of the Air Force was Hussein Akhmadov - a man of Soviet genesis, a regional historian, of whom there were thousands, but an ardent nationalist who had criticized the stupid Soviet concept of "voluntary entry of Chechnya into Russia" all his life, for which he was banished from the post of researcher at the ChI Research Institute in village teacher. The Soviet government, wherever it could reach, built universities and organized local research institutes, the humanitarian faculties and departments of which eventually became the forge of cadres for the nationalist revolutions and "revivals" of 1990-1991. In many places, "liberated historical thought ”plunged into the process of“ aging of the nation ”. For example, in the same Grozny and Nazran, dozens of pseudo-scientific journals and brochures were published in which the Vainakhs' genesis was carried out directly from the Babylonians and Sumerians (now not only “profile” North Caucasian peoples have joined the uncompromising battle for the inheritance of the Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans) and Ukrainians). And in many cases, at first glance, innocuous and even amusing research quickly turned into anti-Russian propaganda, especially if they were promptly pushed in this direction. But in the end, Akhmadov, having become the head of the “parliament of Ichkeria,” quarreled with Dudaev in just a year, after a couple of attempts to raise a riot in parliament, he resigned, did not take part in armed resistance and until recently taught peacefully in one “academy”, in which Rosobrnadzor has already tried several times to select a license.

Errors should be remembered

We would like to emphasize once again: the nationalist orgy that was going on in the republic at that time was not tied to forms of Islam that were not traditional for the region and later developed into terrorism. Therefore, it is considered that it was possible to come to an agreement with Dudayev, moreover, he could become in the North Caucasus something of a kind of support for the Russian government in the person of Boris Yeltsin, if they showed proper respect for him. However, an armed insurgency in a single region did not provide for negotiations with the invaders (although they were conducted).

It is now comfortable to talk about whether it was necessary to recognize the power of Dudayev and thus legitimize the process of the disintegration of Russia. But it is worth remembering that the main advisers of the Russian leadership (it is already possible to forget about the union leadership) were people who did not have a real understanding of the events, but had rather specific views on the future of Russia as a state. For example, Emil Pain was considered to be the main one on inter-ethnic relations. In 1993, he became the head of the Center for Ethnopolitical and Regional Studies, a member of the Presidential Council, the Deputy Head of the Analytical Department of the President of the Russian Federation and an adviser to the President of the Russian Federation. This native of Kiev and a specialist in urban planning, in fact, led the Russian national policy, within which communications from the field were ignored, and intelligence information simply disappeared or was declared biased. The army did not exist at the same time, and the vertical of power ended behind the Garden Ring.

In turn, a small group of people who manipulated the coup in Grozny and Dudayev personally seriously believed that they would create a new Kuwait in Chechnya, separating themselves from the historical invader and colonizer - Russia. They grew out of the Chechen intelligentsia, created by the Soviet government out of the blue, and thought of themselves within the framework of Russian culture, but used it for their own purposes. Few of them spoke Russian with a characteristic Vainakh accent - it was pure speech on which they grew up. And even if the nationalist coup of the autumn of 1991 was not much different from similar events in the Union republics, it still left room for maneuver and compromise.

It’s another thing that neither Moscow nor Moscow had any desire or physical ability to suppress a local riot. And then Dudayev himself ceased to control his own environment, if at all he could do it at least sometime. Details of the layered layouts in Chechen society, he imagined poorly, which made him easy prey for characters like Udugov.

The detrimental attempts of the center to create a ministry for national affairs headed by academic scientists and third-line bureaucrats only worsened the situation. But Dudayev increasingly believed himself, if not Napoleon, then the new Shamil. This nightmare naturally moved to the denouement, which was aggravated by the monstrous mistakes of the then entourage of Boris Yeltsin, starting with the Minister of Defense Pavel Grachev and then on the list.

Now, a quarter of a century later, it seems that it is quite easy to assess the mistakes of that time, since these mistakes are quite obvious. But in September, 1991 was much better noticed by the shifty eyes of Khasbulatov, the brutal inadequacy of Rutskoi, the “Mini-Uzi” in the hands of the young guard and zikr in the square. No one could have imagined that in a little over two years all this would turn into hell on earth, from which no one would come out renewed. So a nationalist coup in the CI ASSR, which seemed a minor regional revolt in a series of others, turned into almost the main domestic political event of Russia 90-s, eventually turning the dying country into a new state.
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  1. BARKAS
    BARKAS 8 September 2016 06: 12
    +2
    Familiar with people who knew Dudaev personally even during the service, some say that he was a normal and even an excellent officer, others call him an unbalanced crazy man!
    1. dumpy15
      dumpy15 8 September 2016 10: 37
      +1
      CIA agents began to work closely with General Dudaev during his service in the Baltic states.
      Chechnya under his leadership was considered as one of the options for resistance to the union center.
    2. avt
      avt 8 September 2016 16: 26
      +3
      Quote: BARKAS
      Familiar with people who knew Dudaev personally even during the service, some say that he was a normal and even an excellent officer, others call him an unbalanced crazy man!

      Actually, in the USSR underdeveloped neurotics of the uncontrollable were not appointed to command the bomber division imprisoned under nuclear weapons. Regarding the title of the article
      Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented
      So that yes, so no. It was impossible. You can, of course, sort through history in search of windows of opportunity, they certainly were. However, the decision was made and NONE of those in power was going to use them. This war was spelled out for Russia on an NON-ALTERNATIVE basis. It was painfully so that it was precisely this point that very weighty people had to blame a lot on that “black hole” that was then made from Chechnya BEFORE and DURING the war.
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 8 September 2016 18: 23
        +2
        Chechnya was supposed to turn into a territory for pumping out and laundering money from Russia, where bandits of all stripes could sit out ... Berezovsky had a reason to enter the Security Council of the Russian Federation and was actively "interested" in Chechnya ... Swan was overwhelmed I think for this reason, he finally understood something (after Khasavyurt) ... And Dudayev, I think he was too carried away by the attributes of power and chose the wrong advisers! There were no kopromatov on Dzhokhar, as well as on Maskhadov ... They did not study badly in Soviet military schools .. (they planned the operations correctly ) and rightly so that they were soaked! And with small gangs it was already easier ... It's hard to remember all this, but you need ... So that it doesn't happen again! Eternal memory to the fallen boys ... they crumbled a lot of them there. It's insulting and painful, damn it ... soldier
  2. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 8 September 2016 06: 19
    +16
    "... Take as much sovereignty as you want .." The drunk said, the drunk did .. It's good that it did not flare up throughout Russia, he did everything for this ..
  3. gaura
    gaura 8 September 2016 06: 33
    +6
    But what about the fact that Dudaev, aware of the impending carnage, flew to Moscow and tried to agree there, but did not begin to listen to him? He was certainly not a fool. He was appointed to head Chechnya, for sure, the gray cardinals ruled, as often happens, but he realized this. But in the beginning of the 90's, Moscow tsars only thought about how to tear more away from the dying country, well, the tasks of the West had to be fulfilled, they did not care about Chechnya. Although it was: through Chechnya, tons of darg of metals and stones were exported to Turkey
    1. sivera1116
      sivera1116 8 September 2016 10: 53
      +2
      It is even more convenient for transit transportation of specific goods, when you don’t understand what is going on in the territory through which the transport is in transit. Revolutions, wars, etc., of course there are risks of losing the cargo, but the risk of being caught on the "hot" is significantly reduced ...
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 8 September 2016 22: 43
        0
        To the author for the article +.
        There is only one "small" question:
        Who brought Dudaev and Maskhadov to Chechnya, I will formulate more clearly, by whose order these characters appeared in Chechnya?

        PS. There are still facts that at that time there were forces in Chechnya that, after the collapse of the USSR, were going to defend Soviet power in Chechnya.
        There is something to think about.
        1. gaura
          gaura 9 September 2016 13: 41
          0
          Here at VO two years ago, a user from Chechnya directly told me that then at the end of the 80's, the beginning of the 90's, British agitators appeared who promised to make Chechnya even a part of Britain. Turkish spy there scurried there, campaigning too. These British forces dragged Dudaev to Chechnya. Or maybe they didn’t even drag it, but simply found it in Chechnya itself and forced it to become this extreme.
          And Udugov managed to survive two wars, although the wiki says that now his current militants have deposed, and he seems to have retired
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 8 September 2016 11: 12
      +1
      Although it was: through Chechnya, tons of darg of metals and stones were exported to Turkey
      Not only the traffic of weapons and drugs from Afghanistan through Tashkent-Moscow to Grozny. When two extra links ceased to be relevant, the first Chechen one began. I remember how the Chechens showed on channel 1 in the news of the graduate of the Kazan tank. He was listed on vacation, who gave him the tank in which he was knocked out. He was courageous, but ... Is he alive?
      I also remember the footage where the human rights activist Kulikov persuaded under his responsibility to surrender our guys to the Chechens. Whoever believed him envied the dead.
      This is the very human rights activist who traded in the pardon commission with ebn pardons of 300 thousand apiece. am
      1. tolyasik0577
        tolyasik0577 8 September 2016 11: 56
        +5
        persuaded under his responsibility to surrender our guys to the Chechens. Whoever believed him envied the dead.

        That's what no one would say, but the Chechens are not warriors. Well, they can call themselves anything, but nevertheless they are real gangsters and animals. The warrior does not cut off his living head, does not scoff at the prisoner and does not film it. Banal maniac-perverts.
        1. mgero
          mgero 8 September 2016 23: 15
          0
          Azeri is also like that.
      2. Mikado
        Mikado 9 September 2016 10: 11
        +1
        not Kulikov, Kovalev is the name of this sodomite. I don’t know what motivated him there by these actions, then he made excuses for a long time that he couldn’t watch them burn in technology, so he called for surrender under his own guarantees. They put everything through the "fifth point", and the boys answered with their lives ..
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 9 September 2016 14: 15
          +2
          Sergei Adamych said a lot of things. Uncovering, so to speak, in full.
          For example, about the Nuremberg trials:
          From the point of view of law, this is pure disgrace, because this is the trial of the victors over the vanquished, and there were not even attempts to hide it. What is the equality of parties? This is a court that judged by laws specially written for him. The fundamental, most important principle of law was deliberately violated: the law has no retroactive effect. We decided that it has. And they pulled people up, many of whom acted strictly in accordance with the laws of their country, then in force. Horrible laws, barbaric, but laws.
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 9 September 2016 18: 23
            +1
            started playing democracy, a bad person. It’s not too far to justify Hitler (in principle, this practically follows from the quote you quoted), Pol Pot just don’t take into account - so, children's pranks.
            There is already no difference who he really is - a vile bought enemy or an old senile. It is not good to wish bad things to others, but he really really wants to.
            Prokhanov has a story "The Chechen Blues" about the New Year's assault (freely available on Militer), there is just the moment when this figure calls to surrender. True, the heroes of the story did not follow these calls.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 13 September 2016 14: 44
          +1
          Yes, indeed it was Kovalev. The sight is disgusting. He was kicked out of the pardon commission when he leaked to the press and on TV.
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  4. Iline
    Iline 8 September 2016 06: 48
    +8
    Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented

    Of course you could. But at that time in Moscow everyone was eager for the trough and section of the state pie. There was no time for such "trifles".
    And the article is excellent, as if plunged into those turbulent times. After all, he served at that time in Mozdok, on the very border with Chechnya, and all this happened before my eyes.
    1. Rastas
      Rastas 8 September 2016 20: 51
      0
      Six months before his death, Lev Rokhlin, in an interview to a journalist's question, "What were you fighting for in Chechnya?" It was actually one big commercial operation. The main reason is control over the Chechen refineries, which Dudayev wanted to keep under his control. As a result, Moscow decided to raise him with the army. Plus, as Lebed said, it took a small victorious war for the general's elite to write off a large number of illegally sold equipment and weapons that went to hot spots - Abkhazia, Karabakh, Tajikistan, Yugoslavia.
      1. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 12 September 2016 14: 53
        0
        Just to kill more Russian soldiers.
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 8 September 2016 06: 55
    +5
    Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented
    it would be possible if the USSR had not been destroyed ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 September 2016 07: 24
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      it would be possible if the USSR had not been destroyed ...

      Yuryevich, the USSR was already nothing of itself. USSR could not even prevent Karabakh
      1. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 12 September 2016 12: 54
        0
        In the USSR, they came up with one movie hero, a business friend of one zoo worker.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 8 September 2016 08: 15
    +2
    Yes, I remember ... how in the newspapers AiF, Komsomolskaya Pravda, Leningrad Change enthusiastically wrote about the seizure of power of the OCHKN .. The Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented, only no one needed it ... Take sovereignty as much as you want, that's it ... that they took rowing .. I remember that I couldn’t take home sunsets out of the house, Krasnodar Territory, when I was returning from vacation ..
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 8 September 2016 08: 24
    +1
    Who now remembers the composition of the "government" of Chechnya under Dudayev. In it, only the Minister of Health did not have at least 3 convictions and all are the same: rape, robbery, banditry, murder.
    President Dudayev was repeatedly hit on the nose by members of the government. He was just a fucking figure.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 September 2016 11: 40
      0
      There is a good documentary on NTV about 7 years ago. Grachev and K. led the withdrawal of troops from the GDR, they sold it through the airport of Grozny without control, and in addition a lot of things went through them, as well as through Dagestan and Maykop. In general, people were armed (Arms Depot of the North Caucasian Military District), they gave up power and provided money. And they gave the oil ...
  8. ava09
    ava09 8 September 2016 09: 33
    +4
    (c) The Chechen catastrophe could have been prevented (c)
    I will say more: She could not have started ...
    1. dumpy15
      dumpy15 8 September 2016 10: 43
      +2
      Boris Nikolaevich (EBN), Boris Abramovich (BAB) and Pavel Sergeevich (Mercedes) are no longer defendants before the earth court.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 September 2016 11: 05
    +2
    They created the Chechen problem themselves, armed themselves, made the money themselves there and themselves decided to solve it with a snap. But the inhabitants of the North Caucasus love weapons and rich historical experience .....
    An important result that we don’t remember is the number of people killed in the 1st war, in the 2nd war and the number of dead Chechens themselves ...
  10. Thompson
    Thompson 8 September 2016 11: 27
    +2
    The Chechen war is somewhat akin to the Ukrainian one in the Donbass. Both are artificially organized and both in order to distract the people from the mess and outrage that have been and are happening. An excuse was needed. why is it so bad. Therefore, it lasted so long. and it will be long in Donbas, because in Kiev, and now, too, "Dudaevs" are in power
  11. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 8 September 2016 11: 48
    +1
    It's amazing how from the inside there was a rotten military administration in "then Russia in the early 90s. Now the same can be seen in detail on the example of Ukraine. The chaos in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is practically mirror-like. Not in the lower echelons, but in the top. But, unlike the Armed Forces of Ukraine , the rank and file of junior commanders in the Russian army in the 90s were still kept in accordance with the charter, at least those who took part in the operation to restore constitutional order in the republic of Chechnya. Russian troops never fired in cities and villages with civilians people in them. "Green" corridor was always provided. And the operations at the very least bore fruit, although there was enough stupidity. Big losses are the merit of senior officers and the geniality, who imagined themselves to be great strategists, and of course traitors in epaulets who poured out the entire operational information nokhcham.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 8 September 2016 13: 01
      +2
      Yes, it was impossible to prevent this war, the drunkard Yeltsin and the gang standing behind him in the person of Gaidar Chubais Berezovsky Gusinsky and other Abramovichs dreamed of destroying the remnants of the USSR by any means and all that he personified as well they did not need order in the country otherwise people would quickly understand what rubbish came to power.
      On the contrary, they needed a war of blood and poverty. It was in such circumstances that it was more convenient for them to steal doing small business on the lives of our soldiers dying in Chechnya and plundering the country's budget.
      And personally, I believe that it was the Gaidar team of Chubais Berezovsky and Gusinsky who created the monster called Dudaev.
  12. Bakht
    Bakht 8 September 2016 17: 02
    +3
    Chechnya, Karabakh, Transnistria, Osh (a chronology must be put in place) were arranged to destroy the Union. Here the cart stands in front of the horse. Which of these conflicts could be prevented? No. They were created with the aim of the collapse of the country. So it was impossible to prevent. There was only one way. In Moscow, destroy a couple of hundred people (everyone’s list will be about the same). And then you can talk about what was possible and what was not.

    So now you can bring a lot of interesting details, but when supporters of EBN won in Moscow, there were no options.
  13. OLD FART
    OLD FART 8 September 2016 20: 27
    0
    Quote: quilted jacket
    And personally, I believe that it was the Gaidar team of Chubais Berezovsky and Gusinsky who created the monster called Dudaev.

    They themselves and their masters .. Chubais stuck to Russia tightly and it is dangerous to tear off!
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 September 2016 21: 14
      0
      Quote: STARPER
      Chubais stuck to Russia tightly and it’s dangerous to rip off!

      - there is no need to shout like that (an exclamation mark is superfluous)
      - Chubais - he is not forever. Career rolls downhill, believe me, I know what I'm saying winked
      - "to rip off" is not so much dangerous as it is long and bleeding ... like a scab from a ripped off knee ... you really think that everything - and she, a female dog, begins to bleed again
      - so Chubais ... he has many lines of defense in reserve, the guy in the 90s gloriously entrenched
      - and I would not look here for the "hand" of the State Department, the Fed and other devils that the local horse Tingent loves so much wassat
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 8 September 2016 22: 39
        0
        Roman yes this is Mozart! Didn't recognize?
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 9 September 2016 05: 36
          +1
          [quote] = Vlad you [Roman yes this is Mozart! Did not recognize? / quote]
          About how belay

          Honestly - no ... I'm here now ... occasionally, I work, like. Somewhere I lost my instinct.

          Meehan - ... (it's not a mat. I just won’t remember all the reincarnations) - Mozart - now STARTER OLD FART...

          Your work is wonderful, Lord (s) request
  14. Thompson
    Thompson 9 September 2016 00: 18
    0
    Quote: Bakht
    Chechnya, Karabakh, Transnistria, Osh (a chronology must be put in place) were arranged to destroy the Union. Here the cart stands in front of the horse. Which of these conflicts could be prevented? No. They were created with the aim of the collapse of the country. So it was impossible to prevent. There was only one way. In Moscow, destroy a couple of hundred people (everyone’s list will be about the same). And then you can talk about what was possible and what was not.

    So now you can bring a lot of interesting details, but when supporters of EBN won in Moscow, there were no options.

    But someone also rode for EBN.
  15. Radical
    Radical 9 September 2016 23: 06
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    Quote: Rastas
    Six months before his death, Lev Rokhlin, in an interview to a journalist's question, "What were you fighting for in Chechnya?" It was actually one big commercial operation. The main reason is control over the Chechen refineries, which Dudayev wanted to keep under his control. As a result, Moscow decided to raise him with the army. Plus, as Lebed said, it took a small victorious war for the general's elite to write off a large number of illegally sold equipment and weapons that went to hot spots - Abkhazia, Karabakh, Tajikistan, Yugoslavia.

    There was only one refinery in the Chechen Republic - in Grozny.
  16. dep071
    dep071 26 September 2016 14: 49
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    1. The matter is not only in Dudaev, I doubt very much that he was a fanatic and a psycho, well, no more than you and me, but in the participants of the Bialowieza agreements, here they are real criminals. Each grabbed a piece. We know some points with you, but some not. What was there somewhere about the independence of the Chechen Republic, and then give it back.
    2. Well, our strategist and tactician Pavel Sergeevich G. and the company brewed porridge from several thousand lives.
    I remembered a quote from the movie: "For whom is the war, and for whom is my mother!"
    3. Someone wrote about the CIA here. Question: "If this is so, why couldn't our people agree? Are they very greedy?"
    4. Well, the oil pipeline, of course, the Caspian.
    5. Etc. etc. There are many factors, most of which we will not recognize, and there have already been many people involved in another world.

    You just do not need to forget those who have not returned Home.