Ukraine is going to ban the Russian Federation to use "Ruslans" outside the country

Representatives of the Ukrainian "elite" noted the latest manifestation of absurdism. It would seem that all the absurdist limits in Ukraine should have been exhausted long ago, but no. There are people who continue this protracted theater.

This time, the head of the Ukrainian aircraft-building enterprise Antonov, who has de jure ceased his individual existence, addressed the Russian Federation with an absurd threat. According to Alexander Kotsyuba, Ukroboronprom, which now includes Antonov, may decide to ban the An-124-100 Ruslan outside of Russia.

According to Kotsyuba, such measures will be implemented if the Russian Ruslans are served by Russian, rather than Ukrainian, companies.
Mr. Kotsyuba quotes RIA News:

They can adjust these rules, laws, as they please, within their own country. Another question is that we, as a developer, have the right to put a ban on flights of their aircraft outside the Russian Federation.

Earlier it was reported that Russia intends to connect OJSC “Ruslanov” to maintenanceAviation Ilyushin complex ”due to the fact that the Ukrainian side poses all kinds of obstacles for the implementation of full-fledged partnerships for the repair and maintenance of airports. Now, the Ukrainian side is “initiating a ban” on the operation of the Ruslan’s Russian air fleet outside of Russia.

Interestingly, they themselves are aware of what they are carrying? .. For by the same logic, Russia can take the initiative to prohibit the use of Ukrainian citizens outside the country, for example, Gazelle, KamAZ or Ural cars, because Ukrainians themselves they are repaired without coordination with the manufacturers ...

Comments

[aszzz888]

Just a masterpiece of non-fallow! How many more there are such saucepan! Campaign this and live.

[siberalt]

The Nazi junta has an inexhaustible source of imagination on how to make money without doing anything.

[Born in USSR]

One little thing is not clear. These people do not want to understand that the ordinary people of the country 404 use cars of Russian production and they go abroad. Well, what if they are forbidden to drive these cars, repaired in Ukraine with their own handles, to travel abroad, including Poland and Europe, and even Crimea?

[sir_obs]

voooot, another reason to start a gas trip around with gas. As we want, we direct our gas.

[just exp]

I would forbid them to fly the Su-25 and 27, as well as all the twinks.
because without Russian service. By the way, I would really agree to serve them and even upgrade them, but only for full prepayment.
Well, bookmarks, but who believes in them?

[ancient]

Quote: just explo

I would forbid them to fly the Su-25 and 27, as well as all the twinks.

This is how it is .. "Makar"? This is their technique, they exploit themselves, repair themselves, upgrade themselves ... they don’t fly along international routes
And "technical support" is ... only at the request of the customer (for his responsibility to the buyer) no more

[Alex777]

Dont worry!
We misunderstood them:
"... an employee of the Antonov press service denied information about the intention to prohibit Moscow from using any An aircraft outside Russia, the Zvezda TV channel reports. He explained that this is only about An-124-100 Ruslan aircraft. , since Kotsyube was asked a question specifically about the maintenance of these airliners on Russian territory. "He replied that in this case we will not be able to ensure their escort and guarantee their safety. We have voiced the corresponding statement earlier," the press service said.
We will fly without their guarantee. Anyway, there’s nothing to take from them for a long time.

[just exp]

fly, recently the Su-27 took first place in the Czech Republic at an air show.

[An64]

And you ask the knowledgeable guys - you will be very surprised that ours until recently carried out designer supervision over MiGs and Sushki, and they - over our "Satan"!

[Suhow]

Earn ??? Sell cheap or destroy what is left. For money, of course. And in general, after all the "pokrashen", I personally, as a citizen of Ukraine, am glad that An-124 is produced in the Russian Federation, serviced and exploited. And the development of these heavyweights of the USSR. current woodpeckers are engaged in sabotage, then words are dumb.

[Tatyana]

There is nothing to be surprised at!
Soros's office and Washington are helping the "pan-head" in "independent" Ukraine to put forward more and more new, previously unknown ideas against Russia! It is important for them to keep Ukraine's relations with the Russian Federation and their peoples in a constant tension of mutual hatred.

[The black]

There is nothing to be surprised at!
"Pan-head" in "square" Ukraine are helped to put forward more and more new, previously unknown ideas

"I really want to snuggle up to someone, bring my lips to my ear and whisper ..." Give me money! "

[mark2]

Actually, there is nothing surprising here. The leadership of the country of Ukraine, instead of dealing with real problems on its territory, spends all its intellectual, financial and other resources to annoy Russia. Well, at least somehow ...
One could, of course, "score" on their bans, but they can run to the international authorities that regulate the flights of liners in the international space. But those can easily oblige Russia. conclude contracts for the maintenance and repair of Ruslan.
The situation is absurd, ridiculous, but it may well turn out to be advantageous for the Ukrainian side.
So we’ll sit and see how events will develop.

Threat. Although they did not think of a ban on flights over the territory of Russia itself. But for now ...

[Monos]

Quote: mark2

but they can run to international authorities that regulate flights of liners in the international space.

They don't need to run anywhere. The airworthiness certificate is issued for two years (in Europe - for one). To extend it, the airline must obtain a piece of paper from Antonov for each aircraft to extend the service life for another 4000 hours. If there is no piece of paper, there will be no certificate, if there is no certificate, there will be no flights.
There are many more nuances. And in the air campaign they don’t know how to resolve them:

“Already two of our Ruslans have exhausted this stage of the resource and need to be extended for another 4 thousand hours, but Antonov State Enterprise is evading its duties and does not send specialists to us in accordance with the current documentation. What to do next, I don’t know "

These are the words of the technical director of the Volga-Dnepr group of companies, formerly the chief designer of the An-124, Viktor Tolmachev

[faridg7]

Yes, what’s the problem? Airplanes under the wing of the Ministry of Defense and let everyone jump together with international

[Suhow]

I'm not sure about obliging Russia to conclude contracts for servicing "Ruslan", because the Russian Federation also produces 124, which means it can handle it itself.

[Monos]

Quote: Suhow

I'm not sure about obliging Russia to conclude contracts for servicing "Ruslan", because the Russian Federation also produces 124, which means it can handle it itself.

Can not. For the international supervisory authorities SE "Antonov" is the holder of the type certificate and the organization responsible for the type design of the An-124. Without their confirmation, SLG will not be given.

[The black]

“I would not want your rights taken away.”
“Don't worry, I have no rights. ("Taxi")

[katalonec2014]

I went through the comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine would not be able to do this (the ban on flights abroad of Russia), because it is clear that the "partners" will support it, and the airports will simply refuse to board the Russian ANs.

[Evil543]

In response, introduce a ban on the use of Amerov fuel elements in the territory of the independent.

[katalonec2014]

Not bad, one trouble, nuclear power plants do not go abroad, and suppliers of American fuel elements are not worried about possible emergency situations at Ukrainian nuclear power plants.

[mark2]

Nuclear power plants do not walk, and TVELs walk. It is simply forbidden to use foreign assemblies at nuclear plants with Soviet-made reactors assembled in Russia.

[Bulrumeb]

In response, introduce a ban on the use of Amerov fuel elements in the territory of the independent.

But this is not necessary, no one knows that they will be stuck in place of our fuel rods, and the accident at the dill nuclear plants in Ukraine is fraught for us.

[katalonec2014]

There it is about American fuel rods, tobish are not "relatives".

[An64]

By the way, the demand is not so absurd ... Or rather, it’s not at all absurd. This is real supervision!
Try not to go through the required MOT of some "Nissan" in the dealer service - where will the guarantee for this car be? right - in ....
And what do you think, "Boeings" and "Airbuses" are serviced by us without the involvement of specialists from development companies?

[One of you]

Quote - "By the way, the requirement is not so absurd ... Or rather, it is not at all absurd. This is the real author's supervision!
Try not to go through the required MOT of some "Nissan" in the dealer service - where will the guarantee for this car be? right - in ....
And what do you think, Boeings and Airbuses are serviced by us without involving specialists from development companies? "
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There is a big difference between warranties and the prohibition of flights, so do not heap

[One of you]

Quote - "By the way, the requirement is not so absurd ... Or rather, it is not at all absurd. This is the real author's supervision!
Try not to go through the required MOT of some "Nissan" in the dealer service - where will the guarantee for this car be? right - in ....
And what do you think, Boeings and Airbuses are serviced by us without involving specialists from development companies? "
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There is a big difference between warranties and the prohibition of flights, so do not put these two concepts in a heap.
The fact that Antonov or Ukroboronprom may refuse to provide warranty service for their product, since another has already "dug" there, is a fact, and no one disputes this.
Another thing is the ban on flights to other countries, which does not belong to the competence of Antonov or Ukroboronprom, but can only be regulated by international rules, so the topic of the question is not disclosed by Katsyuba, which is strange in itself.

[ancient]

Another thing is the ban on flights to other countries, which does not fall within the competence of Antonov or Ukroboronprom,

The "competence" of KB "Antonov", as a DEVELOPER, includes the GENERAL OPPORTUNITY TO RISE L, A, IN THE AIR !!!!!

[One of you]

Quote - The "competence" of KB "Antonova", as a DEVELOPER, includes the GENERAL POSSIBILITY TO RISE L, A, IN THE AIR !!!!! soldier
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And what follows from this?

[Shadow of darkness]

It is possible that the grounds for refusing the requirements to ban Ruslan flights will be:
[Quote] [/ quote]
This time, with the absurd threat to the Russian Federation, the head of the Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing enterprise Antonov came out, de jure ending his individual existence.

[Tatyana]

An64
By the way, the demand ... is not at all absurd. This is real supervision!
And what do you think, "Boeings "and" Airbuses "are serviced by us without the involvement of specialists from the development enterprises.at?

With the involvement, of course, but this is when the Boeing and Airbus developers are not bankrupt and these enterprises continue to manufacture aircraft as such! But if this is no longer there, as in the case of the Antonov manufacturing plant in Ukraine; if this manufacturing enterprise is already an industrial bankrupt and exists only on paper; then what about Russia in this case? To finish off the Antonov Firm to the complete closure of its jurisdiction in Ukraine (to its complete disappearance), that is, to cut all ends for the possible revival of this former Soviet firm in the future, and at a loss for himself? Or does the Russian Federation go over to its own - Russian - maintenance of these Ukrainian aircraft, before it's too late - until there are victims of their plane crash?
What copyrights are you talking about? The pro-American government in Kiev has brought production in Ukraine to its complete elimination and complete legal absurdity!
Washington and the "collective West" did not liquidate high-tech production in Ukraine so that any of its "remnants" - even in the form of previously long-released products (aircraft) - would work in Russia and Russia! That is the essence of this problem! This is a complete severance of Ukraine’s relations with the Russian Federation, beyond which only war is possible - namely, an attack by Ukraine that does not produce anything “independent” on Russia at the direction of the United States and the money of the US Federal Reserve. This is exactly what Ukrainians should understand: that their curators from Washington are pushing them to war with Russia by all means - i.e. to the 3rd world war - in their AMERICAN geopolitical interests!

[An64]

What copyrights are you talking about?

I am talking about an enterprise that holds original design documentation.

If we discard all political views on the problem, and consider technical and related to standardization, then everything will become clear and understandable

[Proud.]

Quote: An64

This is real supervision!

What kind of "author's supervision" !? This machine, the fruit of the creative thought and technical genius of the WHOLE USSR. This is from the series that Krajina alone muddied the "Voevoda" ("Satan", in Amersky). I went to the "Antonov" site, read there are lines like this:
"... Cooperation in the manufacture of the aircraft was very wide: the landing gear was made in Kuibyshev, the engines - in Zaporozhye, the Armed Forces of Ukraine - in Stupino near Moscow, the elements of the hydraulic complex - in Moscow and Kharkov, the aiming flight and navigation complex - in Leningrad, more than 100 plants.But the main partner of the two Kiev enterprises was the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov (TAPOiCH), which manufactured wing consoles, center section and large-sized parts of the transverse fuselage set.From Tashkent to Kiev, the finished units were transported on the back of An-22. .. ".
http://www.antonov.com/aircraft/30-years-since-th
e-an-124-ruslan / references-to-history? lang = en

[An64]

Who has the subclasses of KD on Anam?
When did Yuzhmash stop supporting Satan?
Do not be lazy - look on the net, you will learn a lot of interesting things.
I give a 100% guarantee that before the replacement of "Satan" with "Sarmat", not a single combat training launch of the R-36 will be launched ... why - yes, because Yuzhmash does not extend their service life ...
And no one will take risks and launch "not extended" rockets!

[alstr]

Just start it will be. Since only the launch of a rocket gives an extension of the resource.

[mark2]

Try not to go through the required MOT of some "Nissan" in the dealer service - where will the guarantee for this car be? right - in ....

And what will happen? Will they be removed from the guarantee? But they will not be banned from driving. Simply "Nissan" and THAT lie entirely on the shoulders of the owner. Which is basically normal. One fig for warranty repair dealers by hook or by hook are trying to steal money from the owner.

[The black]

Quote: katalonec2014

I went through the comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine would not be able to do this (the ban on flights abroad of Russia), because it is clear that the "partners" will support it, and the airports will simply refuse to board the Russian ANs.

Do not be offended, but in my opinion Kotsyuba, when this thought arose in his Svidomo head, I reasoned about the same ...

[ancient]

Quote: katalonec2014

Passed by comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine could not do this (the prohibition of flights abroad Russia)

There are no answers because:
1. The question is not correctly formulated (after all, in fact, Ukraine cannot in any way prohibit Russia from flying the An-124s abroad, I am not talking about the military at all), but the Antonov State Enterprise may apply to international aviation organizations with a statement to withdraw assuming responsibility for ensuring the safe operation of these aircraft on international airlines
And that any attempt to transfer the functions of the organization responsible for the standard design (of the aircraft) to another enterprise in the presence of a functioning developer, flagrantly contrary to ICAO standards, as well as aviation rules and regulations of the European Union, the USA, Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
Also "SE" Antonov "officially stated that it did not transfer and does not transfer its rights and obligations prescribed by international aviation standards, and continues to fulfill all the obligations of the developer of the civil aircraft An-124-100" Ruslan ".

So .. if this happens or will happen .. then any landing of our civilian An-124s ..... end well with a very long parking lot at the landing airport (if the bed is not under the auspices of the UN, NATO and any ... "compensation and waste).

Well, p. 2 ..... Your question is not in the "trend" of realities ... if you had something in the style ... "urya ..." then yes, and so ....

[The black]

Also "SE" Antonov "officially stated that it did not transfer and does not transfer its rights and obligations prescribed by international aviation standards, and continues to fulfill all the obligations of the developer of the civil aircraft An-124-100" Ruslan ".

What are you talking about? Are you by any chance a lawyer of SE "Antonov"? The plane was created in the USSR, and the contractor from the Ministry of Defense of the Soviet Union was the USSR Minaviaprom. In fact, he was the lead developer of the project, in which Antonov Design Bureau and many other design bureaus and factories participated. Most of the components of the aircraft are produced in Russia at the plant in Ulyanovsk. Therefore, if you try to challenge copyright, it is not a fact that Ukraine will be able to prove its right to this plane. ... So before accepting at face value what was said by the Ukrainian URY, by the way, a patriot needs to understand the essence of the issue ...

[One of you]

Quote - "... I followed the comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine could not do this (the ban on flights abroad of Russia), because it is clear that the" partners "will support it, and the airports will simply refuse to board the Russian ANs ... "
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In order to answer you in a qualified manner, you need to know the contract which spells out the rights and obligations of the seller (manufacturer) and the buyer (operator).
"The arguments" of the next "smart guy", albeit a high-ranking one, from Ukraine is also not backed up by anything except threats, and our "partners" can always screw up without some kind of Katsyuba.

[ancient]

an agreement in which the rights and obligations of the seller (manufacturer) and the buyer (operator) are specified.

What does a commercial purchase contract have to do with the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER?
"Urya-patriotism" ... rushing?

[One of you]

Quote - What does the commercial purchase contract have to do with the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER? belay
"Urya-patriotism" ... rushing?
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Unfortunately, your "argumentation" cannot be called justified.

[ancient]

[quote] Unfortunately, your "argumentation" cannot be called justified. / quote]

Well ... where do we ... That's right ... you’ll see what kind of evidence you have, etc.
And the fact that Volga-Dnepr is moving to the "Bobiki" -747 ... how is it?
Between us .. "girls" ... The chief designer of the An-124 Viktor Tolmachev works as a technical director at the Volgo-Dnepr company ... this is so .... for your information and .... "justifications"

[kapitan92]

Quote: One of You

Quote - "... I followed the comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine could not do this (the ban on flights abroad of Russia), because it is clear that the" partners "will support it, and the airports will simply refuse to board the Russian ANs ... "

........ Russia has a trump card up its sleeve that it can use if Antonov fulfills its threat and harms the work of Russian Ruslan abroad. There are several mirror aviation stories where Ukraine itself, as well as EU members, violate the rights of Russia.

First, the Ukrainian Motor Sich carries out remotorization and repair of the Mi-2, Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters, which are at the disposal of the Ukrainian Air Force, without the participation of Russian developers. And KB them. Mily, recall, is located in Russia and is the copyright holder for all of these helicopter models. Moreover, Ukraine resells these Soviet-made still-produced helicopters abroad after repair. If Kiev hits the business of Volga-Dnepr and the 224 Flight Detachment, then Moscow could fire at the Motor Sich business. Creating an artificial conflict over the maintenance of the An-124 can cost Ukraine itself a lot.
The second story concerns Bulgaria, which refused to service its MiG-29 fighters in Russia, preferring the services of Poland, a NATO partner. Moreover, Poland, of course, does not have a license to repair MiG-29 of third countries, nor updated technical documentation for repair work on the engines of MiG aircraft. This is a violation of the rights of a Russian company as a developer and manufacturer of aircraft.
The agreement between Bulgaria and Poland also violates international law and is contrary to the principles of flight safety.
Antonov is so worried because it does not want to lose profit from servicing the Russian Ruslan and lose its monopoly status in this market niche. However, the political background may also be hidden here. Official Kiev may consider low rates of aircraft repair on Russian orders as successful economic sabotage, which brings significant image dividends to the company ..

[Orionvit]

Well, firstly, for all the years of "independence", Ukraine has not bought a single helicopter engine from Motor Sich, only sent 8 units for repair. This is the question of how they support their manufacturer on the Square, and Ukraine, by and large, does not care about Motor Sich, which is already bent.

[Orionvit]

I don’t understand what the conversation is about. Keywords in the article:

the head of the Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing enterprise Antonov, which has de jure ceased its individual existence.

As a non-existent company, can provide services and in addition require something?

[kapitan92]

Probably you need the advice of a competent lawyer in international law. Bulgarian MIGs fly, and Poland serves them, American fuel rods are used in Soviet reactors, and we are threatening them. It is high time to stop playing the "brotherhood" of peoples!

[ancient]

Bulgarian MIGs fly, and Poland serves them,

Military and ICAO .. they are "incompatible concepts" But KB "MiG" everything and everyone .. OFFICIALLY WARNED about ALL .. "RISKS"
Amer TVELs are used in Ukrainian nuclear power plants ... ours are the same .. WARNED.
Your extreme proposal is 100% "falls" under the .. "rule from Shapoklyak"

[kapitan92]

"......But KB "MiG" everything and everyone .. OFFICIALLY WARNED about ALL .. "RISKS" soldier "......
Formally warn of risks or officially ban the operation of the same reactors are completely different concepts.

[ancient]

Formally warn of risks or officially ban the operation of the same reactors are completely different concepts.

This is called - "turn on the fool"!

After all, BLACK for WHITE wrote in koment- "Military and ICAO .. are" incompatible concepts ", so it was written further ..... we can only WARN, and so on (expressing concern, perplexity, etc., etc.)

[Koshak]

Quote: kapitan92

Formally warn of risks or officially ban the operation of the same reactors are completely different concepts.

Tell me how you can ban it? How, for example, can Renault prohibit me from pouring cognac into the tank instead of gasoline into their car, which I own? They can only RECOMMEND not to do this, and I can hammer a bolt on their prohibitions. It's the same with reactors. We can recommend, warn, threaten with a finger ...

[alexander 2]

And on what basis? There is a technical regulation and if it is implemented (no matter which company) then there is no reason for refusal. In essence, this ban is from the series "banning the passage of Russian satellites over Ukrainian territory"

[ancient]

There is a technical regulation and if it is implemented (no matter which company) then there is no reason for refusal.

Periodic maintenance according to Forms has different ... "sizes". For many, the presence of representatives of the design bureau is necessary for inspections and defining, after which ...
Everything else ... it's only under the .. "black flag"

[saturn.mmm]

KB MAKES DECISION TO EXTEND RESOURCES AND CALENDARS

And if Aviastar has upgraded the aircraft, then who takes responsibility?

[ancient]

[quote And if Aviastar has modernized the aircraft, who takes responsibility?] [/ quote]

If the Volga-Dnieper, then Antonov Design Bureau as a developer and Aviastar, as a performer, if the military, then Ilyushin Design Bureau and Aviastar

[Finches]

Modern Ukraine is anti-utopia, what is that .. Though the novel write:"Defeating the mind or the revolt of 40 million pots!"

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: aszzz888

How many more there are such saucepan!

What kind of master is such a servant ...

[Douel]

Quote: aszzz888

Just a masterpiece of non-fallow! How many more there are such saucepan! Campaign this and live.

Such masterpieces are pushed by money hunger, which once again shows how reliable a partner (or "partner") the Bandera junta can be.

[AbacUssR]

Can they recall the nuclear power plant with the fuel elements of the Westinghouse?

[maxim1987]

less need each time to dissolve nurses (gas, Donbass, Crimea) then they may have less time to be weird

[Deniska]

Like in a fairy tale ... The further, the worse

[Engineer]

Another peck in the face of our state and again we will only wipe ourselves off.

[bulvas]

Quote: Engineer

Another peck in the face of our state and again we will only wipe ourselves off.

peck? What is this?
If "spitting" is, as the saying goes, "the dog barks, but the caravan moves on", not every sneeze is not good for you
What are we wiping from Ukraine? Especially after Crimea came

if something else - explain if not difficult
And if this is just an old age grumbling, you can continue to grumble ...

[Evil543]

They already spat in us, how many lards did they get you can’t tell?

[a housewife]

They spat in us, I agree. but the east wind, that’s the thing.

[Good_Taxist]

Stupidity you write !!! What spit (spit)? There's nothing to say here at all, "vsepropalschikVynash"))))

[Iskander Sh]

and we’ll only wipe ourselves again.

And ahem .. what should Russia do? To bomb Kiev, turn off the gas, shit under the door?

[grau]

Perimen in silt

[tolyasik0577]

Prohibit everyone in the Russian Federation from traveling by car Zaporozhets.

[Berber]

The car is excellent, please do not.

[gray smeet]

Once about Ukraine, then:

Across Russia, a convoy with armored personnel carriers painted in UN colors is moving towards the Ukrainian border:

Photo + Text



http://nafanyabesfamil.livejournal.com/2840790.ht
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TV channel DNR 24


what could it be?

[Res_Ullus]

And this looks like preparation for the possible results of elections in the United States)))))

[Samen]

what could it be?

Could it be that these are ambulances with all-terrain vehicles for rural areas of Novorossiya?

[screw cutter]

Are the letters UN present? If not, then this is winter camouflage.

[gray smeet]

present:

[gray smeet]

Here is another photo on these armored personnel carriers


The text of the message reads: "In the Yaroslavl region, local residents noticed a huge train with armored personnel carriers, painted in the colors of the UN, which travels towards the Ukrainian border and Donbass. In recent days, residents of many border regions have reported a massive transfer of equipment and manpower to the south. "

[Evil543]

How was it determined that they were going to Ukraine? It is written that they are in Yaroslavl. Until Ukraine month camels. And where are the closest peacekeepers with you?

[gray smeet]

Evil543 Today, 14:52 ↑
How was it determined that they were going to Ukraine? It is written that they are in Yaroslavl. Until Ukraine month camels. And where are the closest peacekeepers with you?

I am not up to date on this, I ask - what is it?

[Kachesgm]

ARZAMAS / Nizhny Novgorod region /, July 27. / TASS /. The military-industrial company (MIC) will deliver a batch of BTR-80 armored personnel carriers abroad for UN peacekeepers, Sergei Suvorov, head of the media and advertising department of the military-industrial complex, told TASS on Wednesday.

"The UN peacekeepers have ordered a batch of BTR-80 armored personnel carriers," Suvorov said.


More on TASS:
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3489952

[gray smeet]

That’s all cleared up. Thank.

[Koshak]

Quote: gray smeet

The text of the message reads: "In the Yaroslavl region, local residents noticed a huge train with armored personnel carriers, painted in the colors of the UN, which travels towards the Ukrainian border and Donbass."

In Yaroslavl, one direction to Moscow, the other to Vologda. Where is the Ukrainian border?

[alexander 2]

"Towards the Ukrainian border" does not mean connected with Ukraine. Although everything can be. Wait and see.

[novobranets]

For how many years, in this poor territory dypakov stocked up. It doesn’t run out. And the stupider, the higher the post takes. Choi is wrong there.

[Amurets]

For how many years, in this poor territory dypakov stocked up. It doesn’t run out. And the stupider, the higher the post takes. Choi is wrong there.

Yes, that's right. Fools are not mammoths - they do not die out.

[AleksPol]

It is necessary to publish the book "Absurd in Ukrainian", such as Guinness records. I can imagine what a huge volume will be.

[Amurets]

It is necessary to publish the book "Absurd in Ukrainian", such as Guinness records. I can imagine what a huge volume will come out

And if we add here the testimonies of their American curators, then the Guinness Book and TSB Book of Records will also be eclipsed.

[-СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-]

put a ban on flights of their aircraft outside the Russian Federation.

Funny ...

[roman72-452]

They need to be consistent in their actions and get rid of the "bloody legacy" completely, tear down the Dnieper hydroelectric power station, bury the metro, finally destroy all enterprises inherited from the USSR and continue to live in huts, as their ancestors lived.

[Berber]

That's right, decommunization to the highest degree.

[Deniosf]

this is aerobatics of absurdism

[W1975]

Stupid attempts to somehow save the collapse of the industry. Instead of finding a compromise, offering favorable terms of service, "we will ban", but who are you. As in the joke: Neighbor, and neighbor, give me money for food, otherwise I don’t give a shit to you under the door.

[sgr291158]

They have that contest there, who is cooler than nonsense.

[Dr. Barmaley]

Ukraine is going to ban the Russian Federation to use "Ruslans" outside the country

[Kulneff2009]

My grandmother used to say: "My cancer was getting richer!"

[PKK]

..and write angry letters to the Turkish Sultan.

[Sergey Shagilov]

Insanity grows stronger, Dill is so repaired that then only for scrap, there is no faith in them.

[Berber]

Really scary. God forbid that they stuff it so that all Ruslans come across.

[Pilate]

[quote] [/ q BerBer Today, 14:31 PM ↑ New
Really scary.uote]

[An64]

on the prohibition of the use by Ukrainian citizens outside the country, for example, of GAZelle, KamAZ or Ural cars, so the Ukrainians themselves repair them without coordination with the manufacturing plants.

Of course, our factories may well relieve themselves of responsibility and formally prohibit the use of these cars if they are not serviced at authorized service centers.
Or have you never heard of the world's leading manufacturers recalling their vehicles? For example, my "German" was called four times to the service to change some details. But if he hadn't come - a guarantee of that-that ...

[Gormenghast]

Masterpiece.

Well, how will Rosatom prohibit sticking Westinghouse TVEL curves to Russian nuclear power plants?
Marching in parades with Soviet weapons that are subject to decommunization?
Will the cost of illegally cut into metal Tu-160, which were produced in Russia and accidentally ended up in Ukria, be charged?

If you are glad to Bandera,
Or if ohlokrat -
Poroshenko's brother,
If the member is short -
So you are degenerate.

[umka571]

Oh, how I want to steer on a global scale. Go again hope for support from a large puddle

[fzr1000]

And no one is afraid that from the side of Antonov sabotage will be during service and our Ruslans will fall? Dill they are.

[meriem1]

Shiza mows discordant ranks! Every day brings a new anegdote to their life Svidomo "power"

[AdekvatNICK]

how much nonsense in the comments, can someone write in serious tones at least one comment and explain the situation de jure?

[ancient]

how much nonsense in the comments, can someone write in serious tones at least one comment and explain the situation de jure?

At 14.44 I wrote it in a language that seemed to be "accessible" for reading ... maybe you are not reading it carefully.
And de jure, we can end up in ... well, like ... two fingers on .. asphalt

[family tree]

Hi Sergey Aviastar in Ulyanovsk has all the certificates and licenses, not only for maintenance, even for the release of new ones it seems like

[ancient]

Quote: perepilka

Hi Sergey Aviastar in Ulyanovsk has all the certificates and licenses, not only for maintenance, even for the release of new ones it seems like

Hi friend!
It is necessary for the SSI to ask what they have with .. "papers"
But as far as I am aware of the realities, then SE "Antonov" is the only "holder" of the type certificate for the civil version of the An-124-100 aircraft
Everything else is with the military (through Ilyushin’s design bureau ... this is how to say .... ).
You know how Seshchensky's resources .. "extended" ... just ours put them screws on their An-22, so that they would have 8 planes, well, the Antonov Design Bureau in "gratitude" and approved EVERYTHING ... EXTENSIONS OF RESOURCES AND CALENDARS
Only business ... nothing personal

[Mountain shooter]

Bad news. Maintenance of aircraft without designer supervision is an unconditional incident. And this will have to be addressed, otherwise there may be REAL problems with certification in international organizations. And "the sky will be closed." As they have already done with our Tu, starting a long-term campaign to destroy the civil aviation industry.

[dsm100]

Debiloids. The circus left and the clowns remained.

[grandfather Mih]

Goyoi. Do not give fat.

[BOB044]

What a day is not a joke Not a country but yes

[Vades]

Insanity grows stronger!

[tolmachiev51]

All developments of the era of the USSR -Russian successor !!! the question is who should forbid to whom and what !!! ???

[Zomanus]

Yes, good. And I am sure that some countries will support this ban.
I think that many of you will guess some of these countries at once.

[Evil543]

gray smeet,
transportation of completely null, not once run-in armored personnel carriers, even a fly did not sit on them.

[BOB044]

gray smeet,gray smeet,
I’m not up to date on this, I ask - what is it? I explain for the most intelligent and color blind people this is an armored personnel carrier painted in white

[Altona]

Quote: katalonec2014

I went through the comments, but no one wrote why Ukraine would not be able to do this (the ban on flights abroad of Russia), because it is clear that the "partners" will support it, and the airports will simply refuse to board the Russian ANs.

----------------------------------
Well, firstly, maintaining the Antonov brand itself costs money, which Ukraine does not have now. Then the brand itself with the An logo is bought out, maybe even through third parties and voila, Ukraine has no rights to the brand. For Russia, this question is penny, for Ukraine too heavy. In addition, you can claim your rights to aircraft engines for Mriya and Ruslan. In general, this is butting for Ukraine that is bespontov.

[Retvizan]

One must always proceed from what they can and from what they cannot. And what it all threatens.
They can speak but not do it. And they can do what is written, too. The wording given in the article is a completely normal reason to revoke the warranty.
Formally, this article is not about what Ukraine is going to ban, but about the fact that Ukraine wants money for service and further, and not to transfer service to Russian companies. Therefore, it threatens. Generally speaking, as usual, we are talking about "damned money" and not about insanity. Don't confuse business with hysteria. De pennies, and where the slogans, the gentlemen know. Petr Alekseevich dear partner will confirm.

[Mwg]

Business should also be adequate, Wishlist should be consistent with reality. And if someone believes that he is extremely unique and indispensable, then don’t be disappointed - there are no irreplaceable people, organizations, countries in principle. Therefore, this is still a hysteria, not a business.

[a housewife]

The impression that Klitschko wrote. (About retvisan)

[Retvizan]

Maybe commas rule, but you don't need to compare me with the genius of modern literature. I am far from "preparing for the earth." It seemed like he explained in normal language that chatting about threats and making them is quite a real thing for Ukraine. And all because of the "damn money." And it's better to ask partners about business. It is more accurate to look at actions rather than words.

[Dimy4]

... all the absurd limits in Ukraine should have run out long ago ...

Not all, they still have in reserve, for example, the adoption of a ban on the existence of Russia. Here we prohibit and that's it, go wherever you want.

[a housewife]

Okay! For Great, Small and White Russia, as a single state !!!

[Mwg]

By the next action, they plan to ban the use of borsch, pampushkas, dumplings and bacon abroad, as these are native Ukrainian products. Interpol, OSCE, PACE, NATO and the European Union promised to assist in strict observance of this ban, and Washington vowed to violate sanctions in the form of a ban on eating at all. Horror....

[a housewife]

Well, not! ... We will give them borsch only with Kuban. We will be fat and donuts to fight to the last. By the way, but there are all kinds of pinocchio and poplar, but imagine - beat ukrov with lard and donuts ?!

[Retvizan]

brand "Chicken Kiev?" And then there was already a showdown over the sweets of the Soviet era (Soviet brands), so let's go for the dishes.
The ban on eating .. for sure! We will ban Russia and forbid it to eat borscht / bacon / meatballs in Kiev ...
It will be necessary to plant this) do not starve)

[Gormenghast]

Okay, the fuel rods are crooked, but I’m interested in a more global question - who gave U-Krum the right to extend the life of reactors at U-Kra NPPs without Russian participation? Some blocks have already worked out a resource, moreover, years ago; the resource of the unit was extended even under Azarov, but then the warranty was revoked due to violations of the operating rules; there are candidates for a stop next year; and until 2019 - almost everything.

So what? Will the IAEA look at it blankly?

Someone here is afraid that without Uk-r’s supervision Ruslana will begin to fall; but at the nuclear power plant, everything is much worse. And what, that nuclear plants do not fly abroad; radioactive clouds still fly.

[bk316]

Yeah, I wrote about this in the spring. In a good way, it is necessary to stop all nuclear power plants in 404 in the near future.
And all the horror that they
-Not going to do it;
- technically do not have the ability to understand whether it is possible to extend the operation;

I’m not saying that it’s impossible to extend the deadlines, but now there’s a situation there that nobody controls it.
So I'm waiting for BOOM ....

[Gormenghast]

There is still a problem that they maneuver with power and, therefore, reduce the resource of auxiliary systems (at least). Physically, this may not be so dangerous, but legally? Do they have documentation regarding the procedures? Did they upgrade the blocks?

So, the option:

1. Soft. Disable power maneuvering = blackout.
2. Medium. Prevent popping extraneous fuel = financial and Svidomo analysis
3. Hard. To demand, through the IAEA, to extend the resource only with the participation of the designer and the equipment manufacturer = complete collapse of the energy system.

[Retvizan]

you can try, but the Russian Federation will not go further than concerns about Ukrainian nuclear power plants. It itself has no leverage and is unlikely to be. Yes, and symmetrical methods are what await in Ukraine.
There is an ideal training ground to do all kinds of tricks of the Russian Federation and there’s no way to go about it. You can’t even get a fence and you won’t get away with visas.
However, since propaganda says that it is unnecessary, well, so the experiment continues. The patient people have come across.

[SeregaBoss]

Quote: Amurets

For how many years, in this poor territory dypakov stocked up. It doesn’t run out. And the stupider, the higher the post takes. Choi is wrong there.

Yes, that's right. Fools are not mammoths - they do not die out.

The law is not written to fools. Fools in Ukraine write the laws themselves.

[Evil 55]

Idiocy is eternal, and in UKRAINE it is also infinite ...

[noWAR]

One of you,

Quote: One of You

And what follows from this?

CAPITALS are bigger- and YOU are right a priori.

[cheburator]

Casserole-headed radishes! It is necessary to prohibit them from operating the MIGs, SUSheks, TUSheks, ILs, YAKs, all helicopters, and indeed everything except the Cossacks.

[Retvizan]

operation is not prohibited. Even if banning fighters / attack aircraft / helicopters do not leave the territory of Ukraine (with the exception of those sold to other countries).
And Lviv, Konotop, Kiev, Odessa are engaged in repairs. You can somehow affect the export repair (repair of foreign sides). But also not that.
Cossacks on engines and MCs are a little helicopter and UAV indulges. They mainly work with Mil. Why are you so generous to them? Antonov radishes and MS well done? This is a GP, and then private traders.

[pts-m]

When, then, this “cockerel” under the nickname “ruin .... will fall apart. These cocks got their exclamations. There is nothing to say.

[Maks-80]

It’s time to start responding adequately to every crazy statement in Kiev! And, let's say, send them in response to the train for the historical work. And to answer every nonsense from there in a similar way. With a ban on departing to enter the territory of Russia for 10 years.

[absaz]

Russia should prohibit the use of Khokhlo-Bandera all weapons based on Russian production and not only, as well as nuclear power plants, including communication satellites and many many things. Dolonutye turns out to be the whole head and not only.

[3 Gorynych]

In fact, the aircraft was created back in the USSR, Moscow could claim rights to products, but authorship took away about confectionery to its manufacturers, it turned out that Muscovites have copyright for the names of all sweets, and all confectionery factories should be branded ( for the nonsense of Muscovites!), but now they would have taken and presented the right to everything Soviet .....

[Bort radist]

Prohibit from all types of machine guns of the system - Kalashnikov shoot.

[Aandrewsir]

Clowns from the theater of the absurd continue to squeak and grimace!

[weksha50]

"can make a decision to ban the An-124-100 Ruslan flights outside Russia "...

Well, she will ... Then what? Will the "international community" rejoice to support Ukraine?

Then everything is Soviet - "back", according to the decommunization program ... And the territories - too ...

[Retvizan]

decommunization does not contain backtracking. Neither territories nor Soviet weapons and other things. Unless Leninov can return (if there are still any) and symbols.