Havana asks Moscow to establish permanent supplies of Russian oil to Cuba

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The Cuban State Council appealed to Russia with a request to establish a systematic oil supply to Liberty Island. According to the information agency Interfax, the appeal was personally addressed to Vladimir Putin by the head of the Cuban State Council, Raul Castro. The report says that Havana is interested in purchasing oil and oil products from the Russian Federation due to the fact that there were significant difficulties in the supply of "black gold" from Venezuela.

Havana asks Moscow to establish permanent supplies of Russian oil to Cuba




In Venezuela, in connection with economic problems and a turbulent social and political situation, several large oil refineries stopped their work at once. There is talk of a possible reduction in production volumes.

In a letter to Raul Castro to Moscow, it stated that Cuba is ready to purchase Russian oil on a long-term basis at reasonable prices. Details about how the price of deliveries across the ocean Havana finds acceptable for themselves, not reported.

For reference: Cuba still purchases oil from the Russian Federation, but the purchase is not systematic. Thus, for the 8 months of the current year, Russia has sent oil and oil products to Cuba in the amount of about 250 thousand dollars. According to some data, we are talking about the volume of oil and diesel fuel at the level of 1,4 thousand tons. These are more symbolic shipments than supplies to satisfy Cuba’s real needs. Whether the supplies of oil and oil products from the Russian Federation will be systematic will be clear in the near future.
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  1. +11
    5 September 2016 17: 09
    Let us first agree on a price, and there we will see that it will be another help to Cuba or a mutually beneficial partnership.
    1. +13
      5 September 2016 17: 15
      Michael, this will be another help. The states are nearby and it’s cheaper to transport oil from them than from us. So think about who will pay for this oil. Most likely we. The people of Russia.
      1. +18
        5 September 2016 19: 52
        EvgNik Today, 17:15 ↑
        Michael, this will be another help. The states are nearby and it’s cheaper to transport oil from them than from us. So think about who will pay for this oil. Most likely we. The people of Russia.
        would you like Cuba to turn away from us? and who are you? patriot of america?
      2. +7
        5 September 2016 21: 40
        Quote: BARKAS
        Let us first agree on a price, and there we will see that it will be another help to Cuba or a mutually beneficial partnership.

        In this case, assistance to Cuba from Russia will be mutually beneficial cooperation for both states.
        In addition, Cubans are ready to buy oil "at reasonable prices," naturally and fairly counting on certain preferences.
        1. +30
          5 September 2016 22: 22
          And Cuba has something to offer Russia. Tropical fruits in the winter at normal prices, tourism and quality medical care. Medicine in Cuba is on par with Israeli, but cheaper at times. The same sugar - there is not enough grown beet in Russia and in Kazakhstan, we have to pick raw cane from various countries. Why not Cuba? But the main prize is a geopolitical gain. This is an unsinkable aircraft carrier near the United States. And in general - the States slid Russia a knife under the ribs in the form of Ukraine, it is time for Russia to respond to the same States in the form of Cuba.
          1. +5
            6 September 2016 07: 05
            Stop clowning - under the USSR, Cuba was kept at the expense of us. Apart from prostitution and sugarcane, there was nothing there. And what have we raped from this? Yes, a donut hole - what did the States leave Europe? Or moved away from our borders? Or stopped banditting in other regions of the world? No, none of this happened - so much money has been written off to Cuba that if you sent it to us, the standard of living would be raised at times. Question - and on me again to feed a foreign state ??? Mutually beneficial cooperation determines the order of benefit for both parties - in our case, abstract benefit falls on our side - but I don’t want it, TIRED, tired of covering up Russian poverty with false benefits ......
            1. +2
              6 September 2016 09: 32
              I think the same is enough to feed other countries .. Another question from Venezuela, we now will not see money for military equipment?
              What kind of medicine is Cuba talking about?
            2. +9
              6 September 2016 11: 37
              Quote: Valera Belobrov
              So much money has been written off to Cuba that if you sent them to us, the standard of living would be raised at times.

              Well, it started. "vsepropalovsehsli". Learn to count. $ 32 billion of debt was written off to Cuba. If we divide it by the entire population of Russia, we will get 220 dollars per nose. And this money will increase your well-being at times?
              And from which side is your Ukraine here?
            3. +3
              7 September 2016 13: 21
              The solution lies in a different plane. That we need Cuba as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier", etc., is beyond doubt in the current situation in the world.
              Another question is where to get the money !?
              Isn't the number of "honestly" earned Abramovichs going through the roof in Russia?
            4. +1
              10 March 2017 16: 27
              Ahahaha. Is it strange that Cuba stayed only at the expense of the USSR !? Do not find? The USSR is not there, it has betrayed Gorby to Cuba, and it is still there, and still is, socialist. Do you live in another world?
            5. 0
              10 March 2017 20: 03
              Talk about prostitution in Cuba? I see that you are a bastard. You don’t know anything about Cuba. Cuban pr ...... Fidel were evicted to the island and grew oranges there. And only rare survivors illegally hunted. But not as intense as we have now.
            6. 0
              12 March 2017 18: 53
              Quote: Valera Belobrov
              Mutually beneficial cooperation determines the order of benefit for both parties - in our case, abstract benefit falls to our side

              Soviet missiles and submarines at the side of the amers are not "abstract benefits", but geopolitical benefits! Yes, and now you can bring calibers in containers at your side, and install electronic warfare stations, and optimize GLONASS for binding to targets in the FSA. hi
          2. +4
            6 September 2016 09: 29
            Aksakal, everything is correct except for the "shortage of sugar beet". Russia is reaching a record harvest of this vegetable this year and significantly increases export... hi
            1. 0
              6 September 2016 09: 45
              And what is true? What is medicine in Cuba? You were there? What kind of tourism? To get to the neighboring village in the back of a truck is a big luck, otherwise you have to stomp with your foot ... Here sekc tourism is developed there! There are no problems with this .. and for every taste .. In the evening in Havana they can rob, though relatively politely ... Cubans live modestly to put it mildly, and they look at the USA with hope for a better life ...
          3. 0
            6 September 2016 15: 26
            In Cuba, the system of procurement and distribution of agricultural products is so lousy that practically nothing reaches city markets from fruits, except for the standard set of banana / orange / pineapple. Yes, another guayaba. The rest of the "local" fruits for Havana, for example, children, come across no more often than those in Moscow.
            In order to taste all guanabanon / cirimoyu, it is advisable to get directly to the tree on which it grew and pick with your own hand. Those. you have to go to the village, to someone else's farm (finca). What if you want and the availability of time is quite realistic to organize. Yes, and only in the fall. These fruits are not stored: as ripe, you need to eat. Even transportation by plane to Moscow (if really ripe) is not tolerated.
            But about apples and other European fruits. In fact, the tropical climate is not for them. But in the early years of the revolution there was an attempt to take root in Cuba, so to speak, to replace imports. (Then there were several such megaprojects: drain Sienaga de Zapata, build a bridge to Huventud Island, plant giant citrus orchards around Hagway Grande and Huventud. This last one, by the way, has been implemented. So now there is no shortage of oranges and grapefruits in Cuba).
            So, about apples, grapes, etc. Laid an experimental biostation west of Trinidad. The logic was like that. There, the mountains of Escambray descend gently to the sea. So, projectors thought, moving the plantation up and down this slope, one could find a height at which overseas plants would not be too hot. Nothing has grown. In the mid-80s: already switched to experiments with local material: rice, beans ....
      3. +1
        14 October 2016 13: 28
        Quote: EvgNik
        Michael, this will be another help

        hi Hi Zhen, Against the background of reports of our return to Lourdes, Raul’s request says a lot! and the people of Russia from these deliveries can also have a good fuck! For example, chic rum, tobacco and sugar!
      4. 0
        15 March 2017 17: 31
        Do you think our base in Cuba is needed? The United States not only did not remove tactical weapons from Europe, but they began to export nuclear weapons based in Turkey to Romania. In addition, Poland is already asking to place this weapon on its territory. What do you think if we only need this “splinter” - here’s the answer to your “concern” about who will pay for this oil (by the way, do you personally pay for oil that goes abroad or have dividends from it what )
    2. +28
      5 September 2016 17: 19
      You can’t drive the pipeline from Russia to Cuba, but you can carry it by tankers, oil will become more expensive than gold, as far as they agree, but you can get military preferences near the Americans, not frail. what
      1. +7
        5 September 2016 17: 37
        The Chinese in Cuba earn money and we are all for preferences, and we can and for free, the lope of the darkest debt written off to Cuba, well, enlighten me?
        1. +5
          5 September 2016 18: 57
          To the bathhouse.
          And tell me, in what place do Cubans pay the Chinese? Or do you have "non-profitable" Chinese sources? belay
          1. 0
            6 September 2016 10: 01
            Cubans wanted to put power on the Chinese, they have priority in Vietnam, they are cheaper ..
          2. +1
            6 September 2016 19: 33
            Tanit Fly to Cuba and see if he has eyes and sees il means there isn’t enough ombre?)))
      2. +4
        5 September 2016 18: 39
        79807420129 Today, 17:19 ↑ New
        "You can't run a pipeline from Russia to Cuba, and carry tankers, oil will become more expensive than gold"...

        The question still arises - do we have such a number of operating tankers that can ensure systematic oil supplies to Cuba ...
        It is clear that we will give for a symbolic price (and maybe even for nothing) - after all, positions in Cuba need to be somehow returned ...

        However - again: is there anything to carry oil with?
        1. +7
          5 September 2016 18: 49
          Carrying oil is easy. The world has a huge carrier market. There will be no complications taking into account the American position in Cuba (peace, friendship, chewing gum, soft loans, American tourists shoals in Havana, direct flights from the USA, etc.). Therefore, you can attract any contractors for transportation.

          However, about dividends, I personally doubt it very much. Cuba is already heavily hooked on American aid and perestroika.
          1. +1
            5 September 2016 21: 31
            Oil will have to be transported from the Black Sea, and whoever is there with tankers is only Turkey.
            1. 0
              5 September 2016 21: 51
              Why exactly with Black? Even if from Cherny, there were no sanctions against the Kuban.
            2. +2
              5 September 2016 23: 21
              Why not sell oil from Syria? the option is very good both in terms of location and quality, but as the United States will be happy ....-))
            3. +1
              6 September 2016 11: 50
              Quote: Vadim237
              Oil will have to be transported from the Black Sea, and whoever is there with tankers is only Turkey.

              Why Turkey? You can charter a ship in any country, even in the same Venezuela, since they still have nothing to carry on tankers.
        2. +1
          5 September 2016 19: 55
          weksha50 Today, 18:39 ↑
          79807420129 Today, 17:19 ↑ New
          "You cannot drive a pipeline from Russia to Cuba, but transport it by tankers, oil will become more expensive than gold" ...

          However - again: is there anything to transport oil? the "clubs" will definitely find how to deliver ... shhh! I did not say!
    3. 0
      12 March 2017 22: 05
      Are they fueling cars or do not want to stop their oil refining? And we need a second Belarus, and even beyond the distant seas. We have forgiven them billions of dollars of debt, and they beg for cheap oil.
  2. +14
    5 September 2016 17: 11
    Since the US is building a missile defense system in Romania, why not help Cuba with friendly oil, and not just oil? Vadim Vadimych recently mentioned the Caribbean crisis.
    1. +1
      5 September 2016 18: 51
      Any negotiations on this - an automatic return of relations with the United States back. And they are already using American money, accepting American tourists, and the first American investment project (a plant for 120 + 95 million) will be built in 2017.

      They have been undergoing restructuring there for a year already, if that.
      1. 0
        6 September 2016 10: 03
        And the people are stuck in the 80s, so they write "hurray-comments."
      2. 0
        6 September 2016 13: 42
        donavi49 Yesterday, 01:51 ↑ New
        Any negotiations on this - an automatic return of relations with the United States back. And they are already using American money, accepting American tourists, and the first American investment project (a plant for 120 + 95 million) will be built in 2017.

        They have been undergoing restructuring there for a year already, if that.

        Is 215 million bucks the greatest money for Cuba? I would understand if trillions or even billions were invested.
  3. +2
    5 September 2016 17: 11
    Stresses the phrase "... at reasonable prices ...", again for free or what?
    No, well, if only Rosneft at its own expense, I do not mind.
    1. +5
      5 September 2016 19: 56
      corporal Today, 17:11
      Strains the phrase "... at reasonable prices ...", again for free or what?
      No, well, if only Rosneft at its own expense, I do not mind.
      why do you think so narrowly? all a penny on my mind! but in the geopolitical and military aspects, how would it look, didn’t you think?
    2. +1
      6 September 2016 13: 48
      Corporal Yesterday, 00:11
      Strains the phrase "... at reasonable prices ...", again for free or what?
      No, well, if only Rosneft at its own expense, I do not mind.

      Exactly, let’s still demand that Syria pay for all the ammunition we used, the amortization of aircraft, fuel, the salaries of our military men, and generally what we were able to think about (our poor general staff was straining, wasting our nerves, I didn’t sleep at night; take everything into account and demand to the last penny).
  4. +2
    5 September 2016 17: 12
    Cuba, my love! What do we feel sorry for? In exchange for pineapples. Far, true, but what can’t you do for a friend?
    1. +1
      5 September 2016 18: 50
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In exchange for pineapple
      If Cuba pays pineapples with us, then in our stores they certainly will not become cheaper. Not those times are already in the yard.
      1. 0
        5 September 2016 19: 10
        Where did they get pineapples? Do you remember Cuban evergreen oranges? I remember. They did not clean - they cut. And sugar at 78 kopecks - you breed in water and observe the ecology ...
        1. +1
          6 September 2016 12: 01
          Quote: nikcris
          Where did they get pineapples?

          They have normal pineapples. Personally, he ate directly on the plantation
    2. +1
      5 September 2016 21: 33
      "In exchange for pineapples" No, better for coconuts and mangoes.
  5. +2
    5 September 2016 17: 12
    Why did brotherly Venezuela let you down? What about Brazil?
    1. +2
      5 September 2016 17: 20
      they have hard times now
      1. +5
        5 September 2016 17: 40
        Referring more to your flag, I would like to ask a question ... well ... and who made them "hard times"?
    2. +4
      5 September 2016 18: 41
      Buffet Today, 17: 12 New
      "And what has brotherly Venezuela let down? And Brazil?"...

      Hmm ... Under their economy, the evil neighbor stubbornly saws bitches ... And, unfortunately, he did something ...
  6. +9
    5 September 2016 17: 13
    Now the black-eared will again take care. And instead of money we need a place for the base of the Navy and air defense bargaining feel
    1. +2
      6 September 2016 06: 44
      Quote: izya top
      Now the black-eared will again take care. And instead of money we need a place for the base of the Navy and air defense bargaining

      To begin with, if they go to an agreement, build a new, modern "Big Ear" aimed at SaShu.
      And if the Cubans kicked out amers from Guantanamo and provided this place for Russian planes, it would be PERFECT!
  7. 0
    5 September 2016 17: 19
    Cuban stream? smile
    1. +3
      5 September 2016 17: 23
      Cuban stream?


      What a stream it is, so brook. But what a symbolic little trick turns out, isn't it? After all, the Cubans could apply to the United States and Venezuela with an offer to sell them oil ...
      1. +1
        5 September 2016 19: 13
        After all, the Cubans could apply to the United States and Venezuela with an offer to sell them oil ...

        In the article it is written in black and white that Venezuela does not "take out the stroller." The Americans are nearby, but only recently have the sanctions been lifted. So Russia or the Middle East remains
  8. +9
    5 September 2016 17: 25
    You give us the territory under the base, and we give you oil! negative
  9. +7
    5 September 2016 17: 30
    Quote: Cyclops
    Venezuela ran out of steam, now Comrade Castro remembered Russia! wassat
    In Venezuela, the most severe economic and political crisis, Maduro and Comrade Chavez brought the country to a pen, judging by the publications on the Internet, there is not even toilet paper.

    Why do they need toilet paper if the shelves are empty. laughing
    Pay attention "at reasonable prices", but how is it? There are market prices, and there are for free, as in the days of the USSR. Again "druzhbanov" will hang on the neck of the Russian budget? How many lards of American rubles were they written off to remind !?
    1. +10
      5 September 2016 18: 46
      You say so, as if you personally took a piece. You and I don’t get a damn either from this oil or from these lards. NEVER!
      But throwing an ally (we don’t have much left, even those like Cuba) in trouble is not in Russian.
  10. +18
    5 September 2016 17: 34
    In addition to oil, it is possible to bring additional cargo in tankers ... For example, equipment for the radar, and also, in case of an aggravation of the situation, missiles. This is not against the United States, it is against terrorism. International.
  11. +19
    5 September 2016 17: 44
    It is necessary to establish relations with Cuba again - they never threw us, unlike the Poles, and there is an excellent attitude towards Russians and everything Russian. And ideally, if our government dares (which I personally doubt), then an excellent "unsinkable missile carrier" right under the belly of the "partners" will turn out. We will be fools and cowards if we do not take advantage of this opportunity.
  12. +6
    5 September 2016 17: 45
    We will give them oil, they will allow us to deliver the base, closer to the Americans.
  13. +11
    5 September 2016 17: 46
    It is necessary to help the fraternal Cuban people, Gazprom will not be impoverished. I spawn how many shitty people have bred, but you won’t even smell it, Cuba needs oil there.
  14. 0
    5 September 2016 17: 51
    It depends on what is offered in exchange .... You need to think!
  15. +1
    5 September 2016 17: 58
    And what is Cuba going to pay Russia for oil ?! Or again for free (on credit, which Cuba will not return the Russian Federation again) ?!
    1. +14
      5 September 2016 18: 22
      What is Cuba? - unsinkable aircraft carrier. It's not even about the price, I think. 1961 showed everything how it could be.
      I was there. Yes, they live poorly, but fun .. We would have such co-ownership.
  16. +2
    5 September 2016 18: 02
    Quote: Vadim12
    In addition to oil, it is possible to bring additional cargo in tankers ... For example, equipment for the radar, and also, in case of an aggravation of the situation, missiles. This is not against the United States, it is against terrorism. International.

    Like, against cocaine drug barons ...
  17. +10
    5 September 2016 18: 02
    Do not measure everything with money for oil gentlemen (this is for the greedy). Cuba’s benefit for Russia cannot be measured in money, especially now.
  18. +4
    5 September 2016 18: 16
    Cubans are our brothers! Need to help them! We are to them - they are to us! You look and put the Americans back to the top! wassat
    1. 0
      5 September 2016 18: 57
      A year ago, the window of opportunity against the Americans closed. Already a year in the country there has been an active restructuring. The budget is made up taking into account the extensive American assistance - from which they realize a lot of what was not possible before. Again, the United States resumed air and sea flights. Tourists shoals go around Havana. Small business again, but big business is coming, the Americans will build production in 2017 with 120 million direct investments in the first place and 95 in the second stage.
      1. +1
        5 September 2016 19: 19
        Yes, here is the question so the question! So in the light of the above, Dear Colleague donavi49so what do you think is some kind of trial ball from the side of Liberty Island? Since, if pendopolosy crawled, then, as time shows, it is difficult to somehow move them. And if they are there, then why does Cuba need our oil ???
    2. 0
      5 September 2016 19: 17
      Let the little island be unsubscribed, for our future Anaconda loop. laughing

      Found chronic idiots or what? Gratis living for someone?
  19. +3
    5 September 2016 18: 23
    Well, how not to help Castro? This is somehow not pioneering!
  20. +1
    5 September 2016 18: 31
    - It's an empty idea ... - oil supplies from Russia ... - Rather, Americans will start supplying oil and their liquefied gas to Cuba ... -There's all at hand ... -Yes, and it is unlikely that present Cuba will be friends with Russia for a long time will stay ...
    - Looks like the Cuban youth jumped with joy when the American president came to them ... -And with the restoration of the Russian military base in Cuba now ... -It is unlikely that it will work out ...
    -Eh, in vain only Russia wrote off its space debts to Cuba ...
    1. +1
      5 September 2016 19: 00
      And yet, you forgot to add - "the Chinese earn money in Cuba." laughing I asked the "bathhouse" question, and I will ask you, and tell me, what place?
  21. +1
    5 September 2016 18: 37
    Actually, it was possible to send for the health of children. And the doctors in Cuba are gorgeous. And ordinary people can be sent to rest on trips. Well and the military to throw buns. So for a change.
  22. +2
    5 September 2016 18: 38
    Quote: Cyclops
    Maduro and comrade Chavez brought the country to a pen, judging by publications on the internet, there not even toilet paper.

    Your comments can also be called publications on the Internet. Based on their contents, can you assume that you have no brains?

    The “toilet paper crisis” in Venezuela (in fact, a number of essential goods) occurred in 2013, after the Maduro election, and was, apparently, a diversion. After the seizure and nationalization of a local private factory that produced this paper (or rather, it should have), the deficit somehow resolved by itself.
  23. +2
    5 September 2016 18: 51
    Cuba may well provide us with services, it is quite possible to agree.
  24. +4
    5 September 2016 18: 52
    Quote: olena
    in vain only Russia wrote off its space debts to Cuba

    I do not believe in the craziness of GDP. Apparently there was some intention in this cancellation.

    Probably, the GDP just forgot to tell about it, in secret, at the VO. fellow
    1. 0
      5 September 2016 19: 03
      Well, don’t you believe that ?! belay laughing Do you not believe in "the last drop of anger in the cup of people's patience" too ?! belay
      By the way, it is strange that there were no more posts on the half page about the "cup of anger" yet. No.
      But it’s time. laughing
    2. +4
      5 September 2016 19: 14
      - Yes, here ... it is difficult to either suppose ........ - Probably our president wanted to somehow "neutralize" the insolent China, which with might and main trod the road to Cuba ...
      -At least for a while ... -But, the Cubans took the "forgiveness" of the astronomical debt ... for granted (as if Russia was simply obliged to forgive them their debts) ... and did not feel even more "love" for Russia ...
      -Well, ... and now the Americans (or the Chinese. -Who is the first?) Will bring a lot of money to Cuba ...- they will open a myriad of gambling establishments and casinos there (Las Vegas is resting); whole townships of drug den, public and other "entertainment establishments" ..., several branches of American banks ... and ... and after five years no one in Cuba will remember ... Russia ...
      1. 0
        6 September 2016 13: 59
        they will open a myriad of gambling establishments and casinos there (Las Vegas is resting); whole townships of drug den, public and other "entertainment establishments"

        Yes, about brothels, like you, I also became envious. "Just lucky ..." - like an old joke.
      2. +2
        7 September 2016 00: 06
        And who prevents the Russians from doing this? Investment in the tourist industry is called ... For stable oil supplies to Russians, priority is given to the best beaches (and who doesn’t know that the coast is different? Who has a gentle beach with soft golden sand, and to whom there is a steep rocky shore). What is the question? To fill the country with its oil so that later would the Americans or the Chinese use the fruits? I did not post such stupidity, it seemed to you. This is the first. Second - who is the main rival and the main danger of Russia? USA? Why? Is it not because they are not going to ask from Israel those lards who give evrema for defense? What do you want? States spend on their allies such as Israel (and other countries are in the queue for missile defense, because this is a lot of money), and for us, the Russians, how to confront these States yes free? What about a lip-cutting machine? You either resist, well then don’t whine about poverty, or give up - in the 90s of the last century you were at the mercy of the United States, not deadly, isn’t it? Well, they will divide you into 90 small formations, well, they will bleed you together to thin out the population, you think)))). But you do not need to feed Kubey)))). Cuba - she, you bastard, is so voracious that it’s better to lie under the amers and fall apart into 90 microstates, and then these microstates will conquer among themselves — that’s, it’s over, it’s better)))). Sir, your mental abilities are simply amazing! How can you still write?
        However, this does not surprise me, if you do not get sick with Cuban medicine, but sit down to argue with smart comrades. Who is the founder of medicine in Cuba? There is one doctor, part-time fiery revolutionary, who died later in Colombia. Read at your leisure. Who treated the Venezuelan president? After treatment in Cuba, he extended another two years after the operation (the most complicated, by the way!). Also read at your leisure. That child mortality in Cuba (an indicator that Western countries like to grab) is lower than in the United States - this is also an indicator.
        1. 0
          7 September 2016 00: 23
          Quote: aksakal
          That child mortality in Cuba (an indicator that Western countries like to grab) is lower than in the United States - this is also an indicator.

          I would not even be surprised that she was not there at all. Neither childish nor senile. One continuous birth rate. Socialism, whatever they want, they will write.
          Quote: aksakal
          However, this does not surprise me, if you do not get sick with Cuban medicine, but sit down to argue with smart comrades.

          Belief in freebies in half with kulibinisms is ineradicable. Some firmly believe that the "ingenious kulibin" without education, tools, equipment and drugs is capable of performing miracles. And what to do, this is exactly what they put in with the scoop. Some were tightly entwined.
  25. +1
    5 September 2016 18: 59
    If I forgot something, then remind me, pliz.
    Under the USSR, oil was purchased in Iraq, and from there to Cuba. Such an idiotic gesheft looking from the side.
    PS I still remember when I was a child "Sumgait" washing powder with inscriptions in two languages ​​- Russian and Spanish.
  26. +1
    5 September 2016 19: 10
    We already betrayed Cuba in the 90s! I don’t think we need to betray today!
  27. +1
    5 September 2016 19: 10
    NO, WE WENT THROUGH THIS RAKE.

    They themselves were left with empty pockets and those who owed us all are now spitting. Good to be an idiot. If they can't pay, let a small island OSTISHUT us nearby ....... there are fish in the Caribbean and zebras CLOSE, if that ....... you never know the "future Anaconda ring" will come in handy laughing
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  28. +1
    5 September 2016 19: 22
    Can help in the search for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, the United States is choked with surpluses.
  29. +1
    5 September 2016 19: 26
    Quote: Vodila
    Do not measure everything with money for oil gentlemen (this is for the greedy).
    And we don’t need money - Chapaev has built a division, he asks - do the birds need money? - Fighters: No, of course ....... - Chapaev - well and so "Eagles" I drank your money ...

    So we don’t need money, let them write off a small island laughing
  30. +1
    5 September 2016 19: 31
    Quote: rumatam
    I spawn how many crappy little people have bred

    Not shit, but sober laughing
  31. 0
    5 September 2016 19: 36
    If it is necessary to restore the economy, we will restore it in VENEZUELA - if only REFERENDUM WILL CONCERN ON REUNION WITH US ........ and then the ostap suffered YOU ARE RUSSIAN AMERICA laughing
  32. +4
    5 September 2016 19: 40
    Cubans need help! And if we have already flocked to America, then there should be no questions "why?" and why?"
    1. +1
      7 September 2016 00: 11
      Here is finally a sane post! good drinks I rolled up a sheet above that you either fight (or rather, compete) with America and then don’t whine about poverty or surrender to its mercy, but told me what they will do)))). And here you are in a nutshell
      1. 0
        7 September 2016 00: 25
        Quote: aksakal
        Here is finally a sane post!

        Who will help? Kazakhstan? No?
        Maybe then, aksakal, stop poking your nose in other people's affairs? And tips that do not concern you, scatter.
  33. +2
    5 September 2016 19: 54
    Quote: sana_59
    not the topic, but I’ll say, God bless Fidel Castro, one of the great figures of the 20 century, sincerely respect him ...

    To the point. And the same to Raul.
  34. +3
    5 September 2016 19: 55
    Quote: BARKAS
    Let us first agree on a price, and there we will see that it will be another help to Cuba or a mutually beneficial partnership.

    Do you think Cuba has gone far from Venezuela in the economy? It’s some kind of nonsense to bring oil from Siberia, but you can’t add any price to Cuba. Besides Venezuela there are a number of countries in the region that export oil. The USA with which Cuba is now warming produces Gulf of Mexico.
    Remember, we all made fun of the fact that the United States will provide Europe with liquefied gas, this is the same opera. They will joke with us now. The only option is why they turned to Russia, and they don’t care about the price — they want oil on credit (which means free)! fool hi
    1. 0
      7 September 2016 00: 17
      There are a thousand and one ways to do it on a mutually beneficial basis. It’s not necessary to carry oil to that end either, there is Venezuela there, there are oil deposits nearby, and there are also on the Cuban shelf - Cubans simply do not know how to watch. More precisely, there is no such money and technology. So the Americans at the expense of what leave? In Kazakhstan, for example, at the Tengiz field, when Kazakhstan was on its side worse than Cuba? Is it not at the expense of money and technology? Chevron came and as early as 20 years as this Tengiz does not get tired. Something I do not see the discontent of the Americans about this. Who is stopping the Russians from doing the same? Why invent something invented long ago
  35. +2
    5 September 2016 19: 56
    We need to take advantage of the situation and build our relations with Cuba
  36. Don
    0
    5 September 2016 19: 58
    Quote: Cyclops
    This situation in Venezuela is the result of the policy of the country's authorities, when one of the richest countries in the world as a result of an abnormal economic policy was at the bottom. And I am not happy, I’m generally sad, because we didn’t have much left to slide to the Venezuelan indicators.

    you, Khokhlov, really have not long left) and Russia is standing on the border: either we will make a breakthrough. either a sad fate awaits us
  37. +2
    5 September 2016 19: 59
    Quote: Vadim12
    In addition to oil, it is possible to bring additional cargo in tankers ... For example, equipment for the radar, and also, in case of an aggravation of the situation, missiles. This is not against the United States, it is against terrorism. International.
    Do not disclose military secrets. Those who think it understood immediately.
  38. +1
    5 September 2016 20: 05
    We need to include the cube in Russia (a referendum to help us) That's when the states really do not childishly wink
    1. +1
      5 September 2016 20: 13
      yes, I doubt it ... very much ... the Cubans are freeloaders. they can only go half-naked all year round .. unnecessary hangers-on ... enough
  39. +5
    5 September 2016 20: 09
    Russian companies as part of the National Petroleum Consortium (NOC) on Thursday will begin the first production of industrial oil at the Junin-6 field in Venezuela.

    https://ria.ru/economy/20120927/760181975.html
    You won’t have to carry from far away.
    1. 0
      7 September 2016 00: 29
      That's the whole conversation. It remains to clearly agree with Raul - how will he pay? Bases, if necessary - by itself ... A full green light for Russian investment in the tourist business. I don’t understand the Russians - they "squealed with joy" when the restrictions on Turkey were lifted. And what prevents one-on-one to spoil the Turkish experience of organizing the all-inclusive tourist business and organize it on the shores of Latakia (who can fly far) and on the shores of Cuba? Lack of money? Yes, the example of Ismailov (who built a seven-star hotel in Turkey) shows that Russians will always have money for such projects ... Lack of staff who can bend their backs? So it is not in Russia, but in Latakia and in Cuba, they know how to serve customers as they should. Russia is a cold country, once a year Russians want to fly somewhere, where it is warm, the sea, palm trees, sand and sultry girls, they deserve it for a year of work. And the Russians would like it to be, if possible, "Russian" warm countries, in the sense that they are so friendly and allied that it would not happen as with Turkey. Oh, and by the way, about Cuba's accession to the Russian Federation - the States annexed Hawaii with the same bunch of idlers, and somehow they do not regret it. But amers have a place to go on vacation without flying out of their country.
  40. +1
    5 September 2016 20: 10
    I have a question .. what does reasonable price mean .. again we will open a charity background for the glory of Latin-socialism
  41. +2
    5 September 2016 20: 24
    For the money - of course yes! No credit!
    1. 0
      5 September 2016 21: 40
      Of course we will supply oil on credit - Russia is a generous soul - especially for an ally.
  42. +2
    5 September 2016 20: 34
    Somehow it is ashamed to offend Cuba - Liberty Island. Well, you can’t refuse!
    1. +2
      6 September 2016 05: 13
      Of course, you can’t offend Cuba, you can tear it from your own!
  43. +5
    5 September 2016 20: 39
    Has the majority gone crazy here? What is free then? The USSR was bent over this, feeding the people of the whole world. Not hunched over by the brothers Arabs, Negroes, Latinos? Forgot empty shelves and perpetual scarcity? See Venezuela. Here everyone is shouting, enough to feed the pseudo brothers from Ukraine, and at the same time a mountain for Cuba? What are lazy Cubans closer-dearer?
    Enough brothers of all races and corners of the world! Themselves naked. Ops did not cover as humans.
    Whoever wants, let him take off, collect gum help, travel as a volunteer. And at the state level, shish! Only on a mutually beneficial basis.
    1. 0
      5 September 2016 21: 47
      Our government will always provide loans for material assistance, equipment purchases, construction of nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, humanitarian aid, weapons, for allied countries and economic partners - whether you want it or not.
  44. 0
    5 September 2016 21: 56
    donavi49,
    And the northern route is longer.
  45. +2
    5 September 2016 22: 17
    Russia can’t lose Cuba. In the same way as Cuba Russia. But do not forget the 30 billion written off by Russia. Oil products can be shared, but there must be a limit to everything! Making Russia a cash cow again is simply not worth it. The people will not understand!
  46. +4
    5 September 2016 22: 24
    I wouldn’t wrinkle, but share the oil. Lordos, resort options, fruits, cigars, etc. The main thing is to get closer to the "partners" ... On the spot we will decide: what is closer.
  47. +4
    5 September 2016 22: 50
    Be sure to help. Among other things, wonderful medicine, fruits - we still have to cover the Nicaraguan canal, and not only from Nicaragua.
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 05: 08
      I would like your worries - you understand the channel ....
  48. +2
    5 September 2016 23: 10
    Again you have to write off debts ...
  49. +2
    5 September 2016 23: 21
    The Cuban Council of State turned to Russia to establish systematic oil supplies to Liberty Island. According to the Interfax news agency, Raul Castro, head of the Cuban State Council, made a personal appeal to Vladimir Putin. The report said that Havana was interested in acquiring oil and oil products from the Russian Federation due to the fact that there were significant difficulties in the supply of “black gold” from Venezuela.

    Storyteller number 2.
    Venezuela donated oil to Cuba and set up supplies - such as give free.
    mk buy oil, especially now there is no problem.
    Although what's the problem? Russia always fed beggars, fed, gave grandmothers, called friends, forgave debts - but in the end?
    Some as they were poor - they remained, other skis oiled and slipped away under the States, and why they don’t want to return request
    1. +1
      14 October 2016 13: 50
      Quote: atalef
      Russia has always fed beggars

      Israeli, what do you care about Russia? If the United States hadn’t thrown money at you, where would you be?
  50. +2
    5 September 2016 23: 33
    Quote: aksakal
    And Cuba has something to offer Russia. Tropical fruits in the winter at normal prices, tourism and quality medical care. Medicine in Cuba is on par with Israeli, but cheaper at times. The same sugar - there is not enough grown beet in Russia and in Kazakhstan, we have to pick raw cane from various countries. Why not Cuba? But the main prize is a geopolitical gain. This is an unsinkable aircraft carrier near the United States. And in general - the States slid Russia a knife under the ribs in the form of Ukraine, it is time for Russia to respond to the same States in the form of Cuba.

    Medicine on the same level as Israel? Were in Cuba and the wife of one of our employees was poisoned and ended up in the hospital crying
    Do not tell tales. A poor country cannot have advanced medicine, a country in which a doctor works as a tourist guide (like our group) cannot, a country where a doctor receives 70 dollars a month has advanced medicine, a country that does not produce advanced medicines and cannot having money to buy them - to have advanced medicine - so do not write fairy tales
    1. +1
      7 September 2016 00: 42
      You will be surprised, Atalef, and their medicine is at the level, I am surprised that you do not know about it. And she’s not so poor as she pretends to be. The beggar is Somalia, Ethiopia. But Cuba is simply not rich, it has enough for medicine.
      Once they asked the question - maybe market reforms should be carried out? Just keep in mind that we will lose this good and free medicine, you will be treated for a crazy ballot in the USA. So since then in Cuba and do not dare to these damn market reforms, and RIGHT TO DO. Because we have made up our minds in Kazakhstan, and for sure, medicine has gone to waste. Now if you want to undergo medical treatment - you go to the Internet to find out what kind of sore I have, and here are my comrades from Israel - and "we will cure you!" ... The bastards are watching my traffic! Okay, okay, if you know how much it will cost? OGO !!!!! belay Yes, you shove this treatment yourself you know where, I’ll manage. That's how we live. But I advise the Cubans - there is no need for a market, it is necessary in Chinese, without any market (a market in the sense in which liberalists understand it). There is an opportunity to eat fish and reforms, but a very good and highly professional leader is needed. Better to wait for him, but for now rely on Russia.
  51. 0
    5 September 2016 23: 34
    Quote: Vodila
    Do not measure everything with money for oil gentlemen (this is for the greedy). Cuba’s benefit for Russia cannot be measured in money, especially now.

    so give them all your money. wink
    1. +1
      7 September 2016 00: 48
      Atalef, why don’t you talk to the Americans like that, who, in response to the indignation of other Americans that it is enough to feed Israel, since their defense assistance is calculated in lards, they also promise that not everything is measured in dollars? I would write to this John - “so give us your money, John!” The girls are dancing interestingly - he himself is essentially the same “Cuban”, only he sucks another tit, and there he goes to savagely condemn a real Cuban who wants to suck on a Russian tit))))). You suck it yourself - don’t bother others)))).
      1. +1
        14 October 2016 13: 57
        Quote: aksakal
        Atalef, why don’t you talk to Americans like that?

        hi Welcome Aksakal! Do not offend the ancient people, who, on a poor land, managed to build a developed state solely with their own labor and for their own money! Moreover, do not offend the best friend of the state of Israel!
  52. +5
    5 September 2016 23: 41
    This is what we need to help, and these guys won’t betray just any partner, and they are good warriors, the Cubans have always been our friends, maybe they are the only and sincere ones
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 01: 15
      Quote: kazak08
      This is what we need to help, and these guys won’t betray just any partner, and they are good warriors, the Cubans have always been our friends, maybe they are the only and sincere ones

      Don't forget that generations are changing.
      Now Raul Castro is in power, he is from the “old guard” and he understands what it is
      friend's elbow. But it is not eternal.
      Well, since they let amers into the economy, now a new Cuban political elite will “grow” very quickly (there are plenty of examples).
      Do you want to guess what the attitude towards Russia will be if R. Castro leaves?

      If we get into Cuba (a little bit), then after the “Castro era” we will have a painful geopolitical failure there.
      Either we need to put Cuba on our neck again, or abandon it completely.
      Both options are not acceptable, and we cannot give $ loans for development now (we have missed the time of the fat years).
  53. 0
    6 September 2016 00: 25
    The Cuban State Council appealed to Russia with a request to establish systematic oil supplies to Liberty Island.

    How will these dictators pay? Again with assurances of eternal friendship? So who needs them?
    And then, it’s time to end this “island of freedom”. Or start calling Sev. Korea "the peninsula of freedom." Because Freedom is about the same here and there. Those. no at all.
  54. +2
    6 September 2016 02: 47
    Quote: aksakal
    And Cuba has something to offer Russia. Tropical fruits in the winter at normal prices, tourism and quality medical care. Medicine in Cuba is on par with Israeli, but cheaper at times. The same sugar - there is not enough grown beet in Russia and in Kazakhstan, we have to pick raw cane from various countries. Why not Cuba? But the main prize is a geopolitical gain. This is an unsinkable aircraft carrier near the United States. And in general - the States slid Russia a knife under the ribs in the form of Ukraine, it is time for Russia to respond to the same States in the form of Cuba.


    With your lips and drink honey. Tropical fruits from Turkey, Egypt, Abkhazia, and Georgia are much cheaper and easier to import. We provide ourselves with sugar, and the price of cane sugar brought from Cuba will be noticeably higher than ours. As for the “unsinkable aircraft carrier” - “it’s too early Petka, let them come closer...” (c) Furmanov
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 14: 11
      Although I hold different views, you are right here.
  55. 0
    6 September 2016 04: 36
    andrey yurievich,
    ... and Hitler checked.
  56. 0
    6 September 2016 04: 55
    Quote: SerAll
    Why not sell oil from Syria? the option is very good both in terms of location and quality, but as the United States will be happy ....-))

    What do we have to do with Syrian oil? Maybe we’ll give Syria to our Cuban comrades in exchange for a base close to our partners? smile
    1. 0
      7 September 2016 01: 18
      Be aware that there is already Russian oil from Venezuelan fields, in the sense that it belongs to the Russians as an investment (Junin-6, that’s what that field is called, in my opinion). What nonsense are you freezing? Either you are pushing Syrian oil to the Cubans, or Siberian oil)))). There is oil, there is already a buyer nearby, all that remains is to decide - what will we take in exchange? Any country always has something to offer, you just need to know for yourself what you need. What do we need from Cuba? Very favorable geopolitical location of Cuba. A warm country with good experience of high-class tourism in the past. As for sugar, forum users are talking nonsense. The beets grown once a year are enough for sugar factories to last two weeks, or maybe a month of work. At least read about this before posting! I did this, in the Taldykurgan region we have a bunch of sugar factories (Kerbulaksiy, Dzhansugurovsky and others), a bunch of collective farms growing beets - and I know for sure - the sugar factories supply this beet for one tooth, well, in a good year - for two teeth. Sugar factories fill themselves with the rest by transporting raw sugar from who knows what countries, incl. and from Cuba. Damn, before you argue that Russia provides itself with sugar. Shchaz!!!! The medicine is good, but this is relevant for Russia’s neighbors, but not for Russia itself - the Russians have their own medicine, which is quite good. Although this is also a topic for Russians, because there are good clinics in Russia, but they are few, so there are queues for operations in Russia for years to come. Well, you can get a lot of everything in Cuba
  57. +2
    6 September 2016 05: 01
    Quote: SEERs
    As far as I know, Cuban sugar won't hurt us at all. you want to eat something sweet?

    Eating sugar is harmful!
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 14: 17
      That's right, eat honey!
  58. +2
    6 September 2016 05: 05
    Quote: faterdom
    Be sure to help. Among other things, wonderful medicine, fruits - we still have to cover the Nicaraguan canal, and not only from Nicaragua.

    A ticket there (one way) costs from 25000 - get treatment for your health, and there is fruit much closer and naturally cheaper hi
  59. 0
    6 September 2016 05: 18
    Quote: APASUS
    Cuba may well provide us with services, it is quite possible to agree.

    Sugar, rum or a sexual nature?
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 14: 16
      And why didn’t you like all this? Faith doesn't allow it?
      For me, these are the most optimal services, sorry.
  60. 0
    6 September 2016 07: 03
    Quote: BARKAS
    Let us first agree on a price, and there we will see that it will be another help to Cuba or a mutually beneficial partnership.


    Isn't it closer from Venezuela?
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 16: 37
      Hard to read the source material?
  61. +3
    6 September 2016 08: 14
    We need to listen and resolve the issue positively. I met R. Castro in 1986 in Angola, when Cuban pilots defended the independence of this country. And I had to provide airfield equipment with NII-33.

    An authoritative politician and statesman. The Cubans are good partners, but you just have to work smart. I have the honor.
  62. DPN
    0
    6 September 2016 08: 32
    While CUBA is with us, we can put a big RUSSIAN DICK on the USA.
  63. 0
    6 September 2016 09: 27
    The family will be happy...
  64. +2
    6 September 2016 10: 18
    and what do we have from the Jewish democracy that has been going on for 25 years, imposed on us by the USA and Israel? - we don’t even have a donut hole; and Cuba, our strategic partner, has been and will be friendly to us; it will be much cheaper for us to turn it into an “aircraft carrier” than to build these same useless floating airfields ourselves
    1. +1
      7 September 2016 19: 22
      Quote: dojjdik
      Cuba, our strategic partner, has been friendly to us and will continue to be; it will be much cheaper for us to turn it into an “aircraft carrier”

      I would ask the Cubans themselves if they want to turn into an “aircraft carrier”?
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  66. +1
    6 September 2016 13: 22
    gray smeet,
    Many acquaintances have been to Cuba (after reading and planning travel routes and visiting interesting places) and were very pleased with their vacation. It's all about what you want from a tourist trip. If you get 5 stars and lie by the pool around the clock, absorbing deciliters of olinclusive without lifting your butt from the sun lounger (Tagil rules!!!!!) - then you definitely won’t go to Cuba!
    But about medicine - you are absolutely wrong! It takes a long time to explain - just Google it. I’ll just cite one described case when a Russian tourist, a businessman and thoroughly packed (and therefore not visiting a rural dentist), went to see a dentist in Cuba. He examined his teeth and asked: “Did you put fillings on yourself?”
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  68. 0
    6 September 2016 13: 38
    gray smeet,
    Many friends have been to Cuba and really enjoyed it. It all depends on what you want from the trip. If you lie on the side of the pool absorbing decalitres of olinclusive (Tagil rules!!!), then you are definitely in the wrong place.
    As for medicine... here you are absolutely wrong. Google it. As an example, let me give you a story I read. A Russian tourist, a packed businessman (obviously not having his teeth treated by a village veterinarian), visited a Cuban dentist. After examining the client’s teeth, the doctor asked: “Did you put fillings on yourself?”
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 15: 51
      Quote: Karas
      in Cuba I went to see a dentist. He examined his teeth and asked: “Did you put fillings on yourself?”

      Actually, this is a pretty old joke. Depending on the situation, whatever is appropriate at that moment will be substituted for Cuba.
      Just in case, I’ll give you some non-anecdotal advice. As soon as you hear such a question, jump up and run away. Even if the wallet remains with the “cool specialist”. Health is more valuable.
  69. 0
    6 September 2016 15: 07
    AND THERE WILL BE POPLAR PLANTS FLOATING IN THE TANKERS... REMINDS ANYONE OF ANYTHING? AND THE TIME IS VERY RIGHT: EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS LOADED BECAUSE OF THE ELECTIONS, AND OBAMA, YOU KNOW - WTF!!!
  70. 0
    6 September 2016 16: 34
    gray smeet,
    you were there? When?
  71. +2
    6 September 2016 17: 51
    here a person from Ukraine was indignant at the lost benefits from Cuba...he knows that when Chernobyl happened, only Cuba took our children for treatment without demanding money for it, and after the collapse of the USSR continued to treat all the children, when we no longer helped it with anything. ... the debt is red in payment ... we must help them and ... we need to jail our bribe takers, we save more.
  72. 0
    6 September 2016 22: 23
    But we shouldn’t forget Cuba, huh? They did not break even after the betrayals of the spotted one and the drunk. If I were the Darkest, I would help... and in return, a jump airfield - this would be a great thing for America. I'm kidding, of course. You just need to work methodically, evolutionarily, and not revolutionary. Which, in general, is what Putin is doing. It seems to me that Castro will not be left without oil, just as we will not be left without sugar cane, however. Yes
  73. 0
    5 December 2016 13: 30
    Most likely we are talking about helping Cuba. In Central and South America there are enough oil exporting countries besides Venezuela, and delivering oil will cost much less than from Russia.
  74. 0
    29 June 2017 17: 00
    Putin just wrote off 30 billion to them. dollars --- probably liked it.....

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