Choice of freedom in the absence of freedom of choice

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Met in historical books mention that after the Thirty Years War Germany was not suitable for human life. For different reasons. And how it all began: decorously, noble and healthy, and ended in massacre and disaster. By the way, this is so for us, the lines are in the book, but the Germans still remember it well. And the Czechs remember. Because there is something to remember. The leading European powers were sorting out relations and looking for a new balance of power, they did it for a long time, and they did it on the territory of Germany. As a result, the destruction and losses were no worse than in 1945.



Today, something similar can be seen on the territory of the former. Of Ukraine. "The war of large calibers," however. Ukrainians, of course, from this joy is not enough, but who would be interested in their opinion. Agenda in the teeth and forward to the trenches ... But eight years ago, many, even in Russia, sincerely admired the “gentle calves”. This stupid proverb was found in every discussion about the future of Ukraine. Today we are happy to observe the reverse side of this very “gentle calf” policy. People just do not like to analyze time periods for more than a year or two.

The solution here is this: Russia should not resist, should not interfere, should recognize the junta, continue cooperation with it, lead the fleet away from the Crimea, calmly watch the Americans come there ... Well, and everyone would understand and approve such a policy. In principle, why not, well, I’d cut out a couple of tens of thousands of Russians there ... This is nonsense compared to "the world revolution." All our allies and neighbors diligently avoid analyzing the actions of the fascists and the complete legal chaos on the former. Ukraine.

Because if you start to do this, then inevitably Russia's actions will look, if not fully justified, then completely and quite logical. Protection of civilians from gangs of fascists. Crimea came out of Ukraine - and there is peace, the Donbass remained - and there is a terrible war going on there. Facts are stubborn things. But we are offered to “revive” the territorial integrity of Ukraine, and then to see what will come of it as a whole ...

So to say, the first step is the restoration of territorial integrity, and only then ... It is absolutely unclear what connection the territorial integrity of Ukraine has with the legal regime and economic situation in this state. Take at least the same South Korea or even West Germany ... It is unclear what prevents the recreation of paradise in the vicinity of Zhmerinka. Let even under Donetsk live completely “quilted jackets and colorado”. It does not interfere with one another and even vice versa: a European arrives near Zhmerinka, and there paradise, comes to the Donbass - and there are solid “watanas” and a scoop. Conclusions he will make himself.

The question of “annexation” and the question of the political situation in the remaining territory of Ukraine are analyzed completely separately. After all, when creating a working model of “tabernacle of paradise”, perhaps some Russian regions would like to join Ukraine ... And why not? A salary of two thousand Euros, a visa-free regime with the European Union, freedom and democracy? But seriously, everyone understands everything with the Crimea. Here simply elementary human envy acts. Crimea returned to Russia, and the Crimeans will be fine, unlike, for example, from the same Ukrainians or Georgians.

And so it should not be, people there must suffer and suffer along with the whole of Ukraine. Such is the peculiar understanding of "territorial integrity". The last 30 years have been very actively pushing the topic of “freedom of choice”, by this was understood the human right and even the whole Lithuania to leave the hospitable USSR “I choose freedom” is the position of a whole generation of diverse dissidents, and more than one generation. Why do we have to live within the USSR? Vlach miserable, tedious, gray and miserable existence? This sweet word "freedom" and this dangerous word ...

For some reason, the advocates of the freedom of various “Estonia and Zanzibar” there can in no way make the next logical step. Anyone has the freedom of choice, and the choice can be very different. For some reason, the word freedom means the exit of Lithuania from the USSR and its entry into the EU and NATO. This is a free choice of the Lithuanian people. Everyone agrees with this. But the people of Crimea do not have the same right categorically. Let us then take the most powerful legal step and restore the USSR (so that no one was hurt!).

By the way, yes, in order for Latvia and Estonia to make such a choice more confidently, they would deprive Russians of political rights there from the very beginning. That is, not only everyone can make a political choice ... very few people can do it. By the way, yes, Belarusians often “plus” Europe and criticize Russia, but the violation of the rights of the same Russians in Latvia itself (which is very close) does not interest them in any way. But there is something to think about. What kind of freedom is it, if it is distributed along national lines?

It's just that in the Baltics it was designed relatively civilized, in Ukraine it acquired the wildest forms. And Crimea made its political choice. By the way, no one doubts the mood of the Crimean people and everyone understands that there is no sense in conducting propaganda “for Ukraine” there. That is why there are strict requirements to return the Crimea to Ukraine. The opinion of the inhabitants of the Crimea is not considered in any way.

It is strange, it is not clear why Estonia is yes, but Crimea is not? Some have a right, others have it. I sit, sweat, but I can’t understand: Lithuania has the right - it’s sacred, it’s even written in the Bible on some kind of page, in the margin, in Judah’s handwriting. But the Crimea - no. And everything is also simple, clear and logical. There is such a paradox with the assessment of the Crimean situation in Belarus: Belarusians value their sovereignty and originality, as well as independence of their political position, and are very wary of a big neighbor from the east.

Kiev, for more than two decades, actively trampled into the mud the originality, culture and language of the inhabitants of Crimea. There was a hard Ukrainization. From the point of view of Belarusians, this is quite normal. That is, Russification in Kiev or Minsk (even if it was invented by propaganda) is bad and dangerous, and when people by force forced to change the language and nationality in the Crimea - this is quite normal. All the way through. And in the Baltics and in Ukraine, Russians are forcibly entered into the passport with some sort of nonsense and are offered to communicate only in the local dialect. But this does not violate the legendary European freedoms?

For some reason, in Eastern Europe, freedom and democratic values ​​are perceived as a kind of limited access to the Soviet distributor: there are those who are lucky and they are on the lists, the rest go to the forest. This is the problem of the inhabitants of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, and this is precisely in this - in a specific psychology. For them, the restriction of freedom for someone else looks quite normal and does not cause indignation. That is, for them, freedom is when I personally am free; a neighbor can even ring with chains — this is not important.

It is understandable with Estonians, but even Belarusians like to focus on their originality and, as a result, independence and sovereignty. Here they are all very clear, understandable and correct. There are even reproaches addressed to Russia, which was not always considered this originality. However, the same logic in no way applies to residents of Donbass and Crimea. From the point of view of Belarusians, these are 100% Ukrainians, only in no other way. That is, from the point of view of the inhabitants of Minsk, the citizens of Minsk have an unconditional right to originality and it must be very strongly respected, but the residents of Donetsk have no such right even a single drop.

These are the principles that in Minsk, in Tallinn. See what's the matter: we will then begin to respect your freedom when you begin to respect ours. Respect must be mutual. Attempting to use any kind of “twisted” curved patterns when dealing with Russians leads to a very serious misunderstanding.

Residents of Donbass (by the way, a very specific region) with weapons in the hands of fighting for their right not to be Ukrainians. People have been fed with “Ukraine” for so long that they became sick of it. And they have renounced it completely and irrevocably. Donbass is a clearly geographically defined region, with a distinct culture and psychology. The difference between him and Zapadenschina today is a hundred times more than in 1991 was the difference between a resident of Mogilev and Smolensk.

But, from the point of view of the Belarusians, they have the obvious right to full state sovereignty, and the Donbass and its inhabitants are the property of Kiev. Such is the interesting principle. Clean kindergarten: there are those who are lucky and their “rights” are holy, but there are those who are not lucky and they have no rights. In my opinion, from the point of view of the new extremist states, it is enough to capture this very “state sovereignty” and create what you want. That is, sovereignty is the right to complete chaos within its borders.

And the right for this lawlessness is not responsible. When in the spring of 2014 it became clear that Ukraine would not be able to “collect” just like that, and it also became clear that the southeast does not support the Maidan, then Europe took a very simple position: the Ukrainian state has an unconditional right to the exclusive use of violence (at the time of Maidan was the exact opposite). And it was decided to close their eyes to the bombing, shelling and ethnic cleansing. And at that moment the head of Ukraine was generally incomprehensible who.

In principle, this moment is the final decision of the Ukrainian question, there were still some chances for a “rotten compromise” before it. Then everything went downhill, and the war began incrementally. And the thing is that the rights of millions of Ukrainian citizens to political will were blatantly ignored. Those citizens who spoke Russian were of the Orthodox faith of the Moscow Patriarchate and were oriented toward the east, and not toward the west.

In terms of population, economy, and originality, this region far surpasses both the Baltic States and Belarus. A sort of specific macro-region. So what? The general opinion of Eastern Europeans: these people live “in Ukraine”, which means that they are Ukrainians, which means that they need to change the language, religion and mentality (they are the property of Kiev). No, with “White Rus” everything is completely different ... there is no comparison here ...

This moment is incomprehensible to me, mysterious ... To live and survive in this complex, paradoxical, insane world, you need to work out some general principles of behavior. “Act in such a way that the maxim of your actions could become a universal law ...”, - this is how the most famous of Kaliningradians put it. Today, everyone, literally everyone, promotes absolutely unique rules of the game, customized for their loved ones. Donbass is a specific region within the former Soviet province of Ukraine. Which side he is tied to Lviv is absolutely incomprehensible to me. And Mr. Lukashenko sees in Turchinov a worthy partner, but in Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky he does not see categorically. Why, it is absolutely incomprehensible. Or, maybe, deep down, Alexander is sure that Belarus is Russia? And, by the way, quite sensible thought.

And people are fighting for a phantom of "Ukraine", which has long been dead. The presence of this phantom allows you to sum up the legal field for shelling of Donetsk with large-caliber shells. No, foreigners may not understand the difference between Kiev and Donetsk, but Belarusians? This is how it stuck — I stubbornly do not catch, what is the fundamental difference between Belarus and Donbas. Why Russia should with deep respect treat the sovereignty of this essentially subsidized region, and Ukraine can powder the industrial and economically developed Donbass. There is no logic.

As in the case of Crimea and Estonia. Did Ukrainians, Belarusians and Latvians feel like separate nations? Perfectly! So Crimea felt itself a special region. And indeed it is. Very specific geography and history. Kiev, in response, proposed only a power option. That Crimea and separated. Like Estonia or like Latvia. What is the problem? Why doesn’t anyone consider the Baltic states as the property of Russia (and a lot has been invested there!), But Crimea is certainly Ukrainian.

They contradict each other, these two principles: freedom of the person and the right of ownership of the person. Not a single mentally normal person expects that Donbasians or Crimeans will want to return to Ukraine. Therefore, they are not interested in their opinions. The only argument of Kiev in relation to the Donbass is the killing of the civilian population. You do not want to live with us? Well, you are to blame ...

The worst thing is that all these murders and crimes are absolutely useless: it will not bring political results.

Here are constantly Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians say that Russia threatens them, I don’t know who threatens whom, but all we have seen so far is shelling of the Donbas of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And periodically “revealing information” appears on the cost of financing the militia. On the number of necessary weapons. I have another question: why do tens of thousands of people who lived on the territory of Ukraine fight with Ukraine? Every day risking your life? Tank, gun, shell - this is just money.

The most important and valuable thing in the militia are people who have been fighting with “relatives and loved ones of the armed forces of Ukraine” for two years now. For some reason, as no one in Europe does not care about fascism in Ukraine, no one is interested in the reasons why these people took up arms in order to fight with the “native state”. People have been fighting for two years, sitting in basements, they suffer all this mess, but they don’t want to return to Ukraine. The point is in them, if not them, what would be able to portray "Putin's agents" there?

Because if you break the "web of lies" and start talking with the very residents of Donbass, the question will immediately arise, and against whom is the ATO being conducted? If Ukraine is so great, why do people in Donetsk prefer to die, but not to return to Ukraine? What idiot can believe in the Ukrainian future of Donbass, if there has been a fierce war for two years already? The war between people with Ukrainian passports in your pocket.

Neither Estonia, nor Latvia, nor Belarus so for freedom not fought. And I seriously doubt that anyone there could be encouraged to do so. By the way, Ukraine itself has not fought for a single day. All of them gained independence without prior arrangement. Then, in hindsight, abundant national myth-making began. Crimea 22 of the year was inside Ukraine. Kiev had almost a quarter of a century to win the hearts of the Crimeans, but no one was going to do that. Ukrainians considered the Crimea and its population as their property.

And when 2014 Crimea voted in favor of exit in March, Kiev simply had no arguments. The psychology of Ukrainians, in principle, did not allow the Crimea to be pulled to their side. They could only act by force: crush, humiliate, forcibly Ukrainize. They say that the soft power of Russia is small, maybe so, but Ukraine does not have it at all.

Ukraine is doomed after the fact, because in the 21 century it has nothing to offer its citizens except murder, lies and violence. What political moves have been taken by the “new master” since February 2014? Nazi gangs raids on Ukraine and columns of military equipment heading east. And for two years, nothing but shelling, robbery and murder, we have not seen. Such is it, "the country of Ukraine." Ukraine is doomed, because for millions of its citizens it acts as a collective slave owner. It is impossible for them to become free without destroying this wonderful country.

Yes, that's just so tough, the position of Ukraine - and where are you going to go away - does not take into account one brutal answer: obtaining freedom as the result of the death of the “owner”. Strange: the USSR all scolded so but in 1991, everyone got up and went out, without firing. And Ukraine is, thank God, not the USSR, and it has nothing to offer its citizens: neither medicine, nor education, nor work, nor pensions. Yes, she is not going to do it, but she is not going to let go of her citizens either.

A citizen is a source of income and other “lulz”, you can take away his business, he can be robbed, tortured, killed, raped ... Which of the true svidomists is just scattered by citizens? With them you can cut off so much wool and remove so many skins ...


That is, Ukraine is a very big problem, a huge hemorrhoids for millions of its inhabitants, whom it regards exclusively as its own property, a kind of “two-legged cattle”. And for the residents of Donetsk, the passport of a citizen of Ukraine does not give any special rights, except for the right to get a high-explosive shell into his apartment.

By the way, for Russia, Ukraine has finally become the same hemorrhoids. Why? And because if even the people of Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk will die of hunger and cold, the main task of the Ukrainian state will be to return the Crimea. At any price. At the cost of political provocations on international platforms and open sabotage. The state of our Ukrainian "brothers" is very specific. In the past two years, Ukraine has become famous for mass murders, sabotage, explosions, fires and accidents. It will only get worse.

And all the “good” that we see there - these are columns of military equipment with “yellow-blakit” rags - this is the Ukrainian state is going to kill its loyal citizens ... We have been called upon to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine for so long that it has become completely impossible. Sorry, but “Ukrainian State” is a set of African gangs, remember the plot of the film “Professional” with Depardieu? Something like that. But there was one Afro-Fuhrer and one gang, in Ukraine everything is much more interesting. By the way, you know How is an army formed (or rather, armed gangs) of South Sudan? Money is not a spear ... People (or rather not people) go there for the right to kill, rob and rape. Nothing like?

The whole "European Ukraine" has become a set of gangs "Tornado". By the way, the most annoying, in this format, it can exist indefinitely. In the African format. It is necessary to spend less and less money on the population, on the contrary, the population can be robbed periodically ... Many African regimes exist exactly so the moment of independence ... And you thought? How can you live on a dollar a day? If not shot and stabbed - it is very worthy.

And it is precisely on such Ukraine that they propose to return the Crimea. Funny. What, in fact, Crimeans so guilty before God? What is the punishment for them? By the way, they are all there with passports of Russia, what to do with it? To withdraw? With the exception of of individual pravdorubov, none of the Europeans in the Crimea does not go and the opinion of its inhabitants is not interested. The same goes for Donbass. You would think that the population of Sevastopol and Donetsk at night in bed sings "schennevmerlu" in a low voice and by the light of a flashlight under a blanket lovingly examines the portrait of Petro Poroshenko.

This is a very serious discrepancy between the ideals of European freedom and the practice of its use in Ukraine. For some reason, no one wants to point out millions of people who have an opinion that is different from Kiev. Well, you can not ignore them for a month, two, well, not two years! But no one wants to talk about anything with them, they are offered to return to Kiev like a flock of sheep. Somehow this seriously contradicts everything we were taught about Europe.

Meanwhile, nothing surprising here is not. Remember the famous quote: "Everyone is free and each has ten slaves"? This is it. We suddenly and with surprise discover that the vaunted western principles of freedom do not apply to everyone. Just about it is not accepted to "spread." It would be necessary, as it were, to be concerned and find out everything more precisely, otherwise we, you understand, have stepped into different Councils of Europe, but is it worth it? And are we people from the point of view of Europeans? After all, to have human rights, you must be a man, and if you are not a man, then you are not supposed to be right.

That is why none of the Europeans / Ukrainians tried and does not try to negotiate with the Crimea / Donbas. And no one in Europe / Ukraine had such thoughts. No one even tried to ask why these people actually are so unhappy with Ukraine. Their opinion is simply ignored. Both in Kiev and in Berlin or Brussels. Purely technical issues are persistently resolved: how to restore Ukrainian control over the border of Donbass and Russia.

It was on the restoration of this control that two years and billions of dollars were laid. The unpleasant question: “Why do the residents of Donbass so dislike Ukraine?” - diligently sweeps under the rug. And now Europe is on the verge of a nuclear war (there was such a moment), but no one really wants a political settlement. And where are your vaunted "democratic procedures"? For some reason, all interested people persistently forget one fact: originally the Donbass did not want any separation. He wanted special rights and autonomy in framework of Ukrainian state (people do not teach history, even the newest!).

It is approximately as if in 91 Lithuania wished for greater rights within the USSR, more teaching in the national language, greater autonomy, more local taxes to leave in Vilnius. But everything is strictly within the USSR. Feel the difference. That is, the incredible talents of Ukrainian politicians have led to the fact that people who originally wanted autonomyand within the framework of Ukraine, at first they were forced to fight for sovereignty, and now they are forced to fight for the elimination of this wonderful state. Because there is no other way: in order to “roast an elephant on 5 kopecks”, you need to kill alwaysabout an elephant. In Ukraine, this is exactly the case: if you want to speak Russian fluently, you will need lot high-explosive fragmentation shells ...

That is, as long as this miraculous totalitarian sect exists under the Ukraine label, there will be politicians in Kiev who will regard Donbas as their property. And Crimeans too. In the meantime, the slave owner is alive, the slave will not be free. Will sue for lost property. In the European Court of Human Rights, which is typical.

Choice of freedom in the absence of freedom of choice
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  1. +7
    6 September 2016 05: 37
    The people of Donbass made their choice. This people is part of the Russian World. And how the hesitants feel about it and the Anglo-Saxons do not really matter. With regards to Lukashenko ... recourse so, after all, he still does not recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia. Whether this opinion is his or whether he follows the path of Yanukovych is unknown, but (hackneyed) - he can’t sit on two chairs. The final choice will soon have to be made.
    1. +2
      6 September 2016 08: 22
      The people of Donbass made their choice

      And who knows the main enemy in spite of the dill!
  2. +1
    6 September 2016 06: 38
    Centrifugal forces in the self-determination of European peoples are developing ... The desire of Catalonia, Scotland, the northern provinces of Italy, Wallonia, Flanders for independence and the creation of states is obvious. All these screams in relation to Crimea are simply ridiculous. It has already been a little bit to talk about the policy of "double standards" ... The territory of Ukraine is close to a confederation. If the countries of Eastern Europe were stronger economically and militarily, then Bukovina and Galicia would have long ago been part of Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. It's just that huge funds have to be invested in these territories, which is beyond our capacity. Look, Germany still cannot "digest" the annexation of the GDR.
  3. 0
    6 September 2016 06: 43
    Throughout their irresponsible life ukrokakly lived at someone else's expense. And so it became part of their bad habits that they don’t think of themselves differently - they all owe them. And here the mericatos also sang and helped them, so they reasserted themselves - they dug up the sea, then the first person was ukrom (or rather urkom?) ...
    And then they cut them a freebie, according to the most ... in general tonsils. That wolf howl at Russia. But wolves were always shot to know their place - deep in the forest!
    1. +12
      6 September 2016 07: 53
      aszzz888
      In the USSR, the attitude towards them was the same. Figure 70s.
  4. +6
    6 September 2016 06: 57
    Mr. Egorov! The headpiece in the article refers to Ukraine, the war is going on in Ukraine, the Nazis are marching in the Baltic States ... So why, in your article, Belarus is mentioned through the word? be so kind as to envision the facts of infringement of the rights of Russians in Belarus. Internet screeching? Moreover, they are written mostly in Russian, because these "patriots" do not know Belarusian. Where does your information about Belarus come from? From marginal sites, such as a charter and the like?
    I'm tired of these analetegs. Now I’m going to work, and for the whole day I won’t hear the Belarusian language at all. No one will reproach me with the fact that I am Russian, and on September 11 I will be invited to vote. And out of 15 candidates in 4 constituencies, only two have election campaigning in the Belarusian language.
    And you continue, Mr. Egorov, continue. if you assure Belarusians for twenty years that they (statements from the west) are great, or (statements from the east) are bad, but in both cases they are not Russian, and should not be friends with Russians in general, then you will achieve yours.
    1. +8
      6 September 2016 09: 13
      So why, in your article, Belarus is mentioned through the word?


      The logical paradox is observed there is Donbass and there is Belarus ...

      In principle, they are largely equivalent. Before the war, Donbass was even more economically powerful.
      BUT, from the point of view of Belarusians: Belarus is an absolutely independent and sovereign state, and Donbass is the property of Kiev.

      The author makes fun of this embarrassment ... am
      1. +1
        6 September 2016 17: 42
        I do not support the position of official Minsk, although I am a citizen of Belarus. So, be so kind as to formulate your thoughts more precisely.
  5. +2
    6 September 2016 07: 14
    You see, dear bambini, everything that you wrote in your article is correct, BUT .... not new, no matter how regrettable it may sound. If my memory does not change, then this was spelled out in the clever book of the Bible: For he who sees a speck in someone else's eye does not notice the log in his own (I can not vouch for literalness, but the meaning is accurate). And the Roman proverb says that what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to his bull ... only here I have a snide remark from the place: And why did all these comrades imagine themselves to be Jupiter? If you deliberately delve into the history of all the "exceptional", then they are up to Olympus, as to Beijing in the knee-elbow position of an angry Egyptian ... Well, something like that ... hi
  6. +6
    6 September 2016 07: 43
    Remember the plot of the movie "Professional" with Depardieu?
    Author - "Professional" with Belmondo! bully
    1. 0
      6 September 2016 08: 55
      am Looked a long time sorry ...
  7. +4
    6 September 2016 07: 54
    The author spent so much time to explain the simple truth - liquid water. Why try to sort out what has long been laid out in its place under its serial number. Sorry, but the article is very similar to a student’s essay. I read it without any interest.
  8. +1
    6 September 2016 08: 32
    "Professional" not with Depardieu, but with Belmondo ...
  9. +1
    6 September 2016 08: 35
    Quote: rotmistr60
    The author spent so much time to explain the simple truth - liquid water. Why try to sort out what has long been laid out in its place under its serial number. Sorry, but the article is very similar to a student’s essay. I read it without any interest.

    ... well, maybe this is a resume ... or - another reminder!
    ... And then - many, and most importantly - often! - forget what is in the article ...
  10. +2
    6 September 2016 08: 46
    Respect must be mutual

    That's all. No more talking about anything. There is no mutual respect - fears and phobias appear. To the psychiatrist, gentlemen, to the psychiatrist.
  11. +5
    6 September 2016 09: 03
    One feels that the author * has long been * sick * and has spoken out. Today, the reproaches and grievances voiced by the Balts, Belarusians and Ukrainians are almost the same, the details are different, and the spell about the debt of RUSSIA and all RUSSIANs to terribly offended is sure, and if RUSSIA does not satisfy the grievances, the grudge will become even greater. I had to work alongside representatives of these countries at one time, so this is from personal experience. It was strange that people with higher education made more complaints.
  12. 0
    6 September 2016 10: 54
    The author sneers: ".. well, they would cut there (in Crimea) a couple of tens of thousands of Russians ... "That is, in the Crimea, this is bad. But the fact that a couple of tens of thousands of Russians have already died in the Donbas is normal, right?
    "Crimea left Ukraine - and there is peace, Donbass remained - and a very difficult war is going on there." (Cit.)
    So he took it and stayed, yes? Or maybe he just DIDN’T WANT TO SEE IN RUSSIA? Maybe they just sacrificed him to draw off the heat from the Crimea? Because there is no Black Sea Fleet base in the Donbass? Ah, the author? If you lie in the small, then who will believe you in great? Donbass wanted autonomy BEFORE the annexation of Crimea to Russia. And when I saw that it turned out, I could, I decided to hold a referendum. So that means, too. But the GDP urged me to abstain. So? Everyone heard. And Donbass I took it, and spent it. And it started ...
    1. +3
      6 September 2016 13: 30
      That is, in Crimea, it’s bad. But the fact that a couple of tens of thousands of Russians have already died in the Donbass is normal, right?


      That is why the author writes that Ukraine in itself is a giant hemorrhoids (almost inoperable)
    2. +1
      6 September 2016 16: 03
      Enough is enough. Again Putin is to blame!
  13. +1
    6 September 2016 11: 01
    I read it, grinned, "this is a normal article. But in order to" comment "on it, I just had to see Crimea in the Russian Federation, but Donbass didn't want to. I wanted to stay in Ukraine. And then Donbass doesn't want to go back to Ukraine. I would have said that the Russian Federation did not recognize it. "I respected the choice" but did not recognize it. And gave it to the Partners in Minsk.
    In general, to disassemble the article is not enough for a year.
    And in general, it's time for me to go to work - I'm thinking how many high-explosive shells I need for work ... And how many the whole city needs ... and in general most of Ukraine. Not the former. Do not hope. She is not at all on the "broad Ukrainians."
    In Ukraine, this is exactly so: if you want to speak Russian fluently, you will need a lot of high-explosive shells ...

    I'll go spend the high explosive. And then for the Russian language you need to have a trunk.
    Although it is possible as Tuka. How he sent an official.
    The trouble is with such articles. They look at the problem locally. And in such colors. One-sided. Well, something "Ukrainians" is just the opposite. The Russian Federation is to blame there. Here Ukraine is to blame for everything and in general it is not.
    Strange, but "it does not exist" remains one of the largest trade partners of the Republic of Belarus.
    1. +2
      6 September 2016 11: 16
      Retvizan "It is strange but" she does not exist "remains one of the largest trade partners of the Republic of Belarus."

      If you are saddened by this, you can make a request to the Verkhovna Rada. Well, to complain there ... M.b. will begin to build another wall between "it is not" and the RF, in addition to the previously unfinished.
    2. +2
      6 September 2016 13: 33
      And then for the Russian language you need to have a trunk


      That is, in Ukraine today you can freely watch Russian television, buy Russian books, receive education in Russian at schools / universities ....
      To conduct official correspondence with the state in Russian ...
    3. +2
      6 September 2016 13: 48
      and generally most of Ukraine. Not the former. Do not expect.


      Sorry - it’s as if to discuss a little late ...
      Irrelevant already. request
    4. +2
      6 September 2016 16: 52
      V.ic
      Mb start building another wall

      Victor, more than one wall will be built, and do not laugh at it. Each wall is a grief for the people who built the wall. Between themselves and relatives on the other hand. And how many of these walls will be in the future?
  14. 0
    6 September 2016 16: 22
    So here they are some Western values, on a stick.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"