KRET is developing new defense complexes for helicopters

New airborne defense complexes (BSOs) for individual protection of helicopters can be created in 2017-2018, reports TASS report of the Deputy Director General of the Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET) Yuri Maevsky.

“Yes, there are ongoing (development). New BKOs will have a greater range of suppressed objects, and will also be able to more accurately determine the direction of targets. At the same time, in addition to building up the potential of applied noise interference of various types, there is an active introduction of intelligent interference, ” - said in an interview with Mayevsky.

Currently in service aviation BCO "Vityaz" stands, "designed for the individual protection of military aircraft and helicopters from defeat by aviation and anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as anti-aircraft artillery air defense systems of enemy land and sea-based," recalled the deputy director.

In addition, according to him, to date, a modification of the Eite Vitebsk complex has been created for transport aircraft.

“The complex has been created. Including all the necessary tests on some types of aircraft have already been conducted by us. The issue of locating this complex on a number of other aircraft is being resolved " - said Mayevsky.

He recalled that “Vitebsk is a family of complexes that can be adapted to almost any type of aircraft, including military transport and civilian.”

Earlier in KRET, it was reported that tests of this version of the complex will be completed in 2 quarter of 2016.

Comments

[PKK]

Roasted cock pecked, now you can work.

[cniza]

Thunder will not strike, a man will not cross himself, the main thing that they will do.

[Muvka]

Where does it bite and where is it baptized? I personally see one thing. Syrian planes shot down from MANPADS. BUT! None of our aircraft or helicopters were shot down from MANPADS. So BKO work.
Most likely, in order to save on Mi there are no additional security systems, unlike the Ka-52, none of which was lost.

[BARKAS]

Earlier in KRET, it was reported that tests of this version of the complex will be completed in 2 quarter of 2016.

Such systems need to be developed constantly without stopping otherwise the means of destruction will always be more effective!

[just exp]

TAU is an abbreviation. you do not write the word laser in aglitsky. and this is exactly the English abbreviation
light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation

[just exp]

it was not for you.

[ancient]

Syrian planes shot down from MANPADS. BUT! None of our aircraft or helicopters were shot down from MANPADS. So BKO work.
Most likely, in order to save on Mi there are no additional security systems

The "dominance" of the site by "bunny boys" .. continues?

[Muvka]

Do you think it was 100% shot down from MANPADS? Where is the video from the broads? Provide? They capture their every shot. Or maybe the helicopter simply refused? Do not you consider this option? The Babahs did not even provide a video of the fall, which means they were not there and they did not know about it. And there is a conclusion that he was shot down from MANPADS? From any source?

[parkello]

quite right, there is no video, which means that not bearded ones shot down. Americans seem to have shot down me, I personally expect everything from them, including the destruction of the Russian Mi-8. and they apparently sent these monkeys to destroy all the evidence and evidence of their involvement in the death of the helicopter. I personally exclude engine failure as an option, because the Mi-8 could land. even hard, but it would have landed on the rotor or the pilots could have said anything about the problem on the air. So it turns out that they were shot down, but not from the ground, because it would have been fixed on cameras, not one, but on CAMERA, but from the plane by the same AMRAAM, or whatever I recall they are called to the devil. and the rest was completed by nonhumans, cleared out all traces of the mattresses.

[just exp]

OUR helicopters from MANPADS were not shot down.
one was shot down by a memory, the other according to legend, a Tau was shot down, but the same thing was about friendly fire.
were also with an accident and the very first Mi-8 was damaged by a gunner and finished off Tau on the ground (this is when the Su-24 was shot down).

[drunkram]

Two helicopters from the TOW ATGM were shot down, one on the ground during the rescue of a pilot shot down by the Su-24M Turks, the second in the air http://www.interfax.ru/world/517728
From the MANPADS not a single vehicle was shot down according to off.data

[dmi.pris1]

Dear, write correctly .. TOW, and TAU is a science, a theory of automatic control, taught at universities .. Write yourself without knowing what.

[Varaga]

About the "guards" it is said in two more words. And planes are not shot down because of the short range of MANPADS.

[Muvka]

About the "guards" it is said in two more words. And planes are not shot down because of the short range of MANPADS.

But why then are Syrian planes shot down? Syrian aircraft increase range intercept Babakhov MANPADS?

[NKVD]

The qualification of Syrian pilots does not allow the effective use of aviation weapons from high altitudes as the airborne forces do

[rruvim]

Is there a MANPADS in Syria at Isil?

[drunkram]

They have a Needle in some quantities, they pray for them honestly, and even have stingers http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/3/15/799503.html

[SPB.RU]

Why? There is a vidos where they mock MI-8 with MANPADS, nearby rockets are blown up.

[Muvka]

By Syrian Mi-8? Or what did you want to say? For our helicopters from MANPADS do not fall. Not a single padded out of MANPADS or SAMs.

[gispanec]

Syrian planes shot down from MANPADS. BUT! None of our aircraft or helicopters were shot down from MANPADS. not, well, why lie then ?? our Mi-8 helicopter was shot down from MANPADS, everyone died ... and the crew and 2 officers who were in it ......

[sivuch]

Are you sure that MANPADS, not ATGMs or FOR?

[Rostislav]

Why is this mockery? It's about the eternal struggle of "shell and armor". Success in one area makes specialists from another work hard.
Or do you intend to reproach the developers for not having yet created a super-duper system capable of protecting a helicopter from everything - MANPADS, air defense missiles, air-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft artillery barrels?

[drunkram]

Here the matter is rather the absence of these systems on the machines (I'm talking about the comment that our turntables are being shot down), but then after looking at the reports I realized that not a single machine was shot down from MANPADS, only TOW ATGMs, and it is not known from what the Iraqi Air Force helicopter was shot down

[krops777]

Roasted cock pecked, now you can work

And here is the cock ?. The best test for the suitability of military equipment is its use in combat conditions.

[Danil Laryon]

if anyone is interested

[rruvim]

In addition to the release of the LTC, everything else is just informing the pilot.

[Monos]

KRET is developing new defense complexes for helicopters

Quickly respond to the Syrian experience. Commendable. A sense of security allows you to work more decisively. Our guys are dear to us.

[katalonec2014]

We lost two vehicles from the defeat of TOW, okay, we'll make new ones, but the colonel and the lieutenant won't be returned, and then the "partners" have also planted MANPADS, then you will think about it. We are not going to stop air support for now, and therefore losses are possible, so the work must be forced. Someone will say how, there were some developments in this area, and therefore we are not starting from scratch. Take a look at the Syrian "birdhouses" here who started from scratch when the need forced.

[Muvka]

MANPADS and ATGM TOU operate on different principles. That is why we lose cars only from the second. And then, judging by the picture above, on the Ka-52 and from the second there is protection, which is apparently absent on the Mi-8, 28 and 35.
Here is the news of May 20 found:
The tests of the laser protection system of the Mi-28N "Night Hunter" attack helicopter will be completed in the near future, Vladimir Mikheev, the representative of the system developer, the concern "Radioelectronic Technologies", told TASS.

“In the near future, it is planned to complete tests of the laser suppression station, receive the appropriate letters for mass production and equip the system with all manufactured helicopters,” said Mikheev.

So on the Mi-28 there is still no protection from laser guidance, which is on the Ka-52. It turns out the Mi-28 - a budget version of the attack helicopter. And KRET has nothing to do with it.

[rruvim]

Laser suppression is visual contact with the emitter. In what place of the helicopter to place the so-called suppression station on the helicopter body, in order to get all-angle?

[drunkram]

no need to compare TOW ATGMs and MANPADS (Needle or Stinger, Willow, etc.). MANPADS are aimed at the target by a laser or thermal beam, which can be easily counteracted, and ATGM TOU is manually guided by the CABLE operator

[dmi.pris1]

No electronics will save the helicopter from the "Shilka" projectile or bullets from a large-caliber machine gun. Yes, and they beat from grenade launchers during landing .. There is a question of combat use and cover.

[Muvka]

Well, if there is a fuse in a grenade launcher shell, then electronics can very well save it. But, of course, it will not save from a primitive projectile unless a powerful magnetic field is created that stops or deflects the shells. But in the modern world this is still fantastic.

[V.ic]

Muvka "But in the modern world this is still a fantasy."

Who knows, how to know ... It seems that a plane built with the money of Wolf Messing and his pilot successfully completed their participation in the Great Patriotic War without any injuries or injuries ... Messing whispered something while transferring the side to the combat unit to the vehicle tet. Maybe a fairy tale, but m. true story.

[Muvka]

Well, in our world and in aliens who arrive at night they believe. You just need a lot of energy for such tricks. Now, if you push some kind of thermonuclear reactor into a helicopter ... then something can happen;)

[Bayonet]

Messing whispered something while transferring the side to the combat unit to a tête-à-tête. Maybe a fairy tale, but m. true story

Maybe someone needs to whisper a car? Contact - five-man business then!

[Baloo]

Put a plus, but the legends about Messing are just legends. One special recounted that when Messing spoke in their city, he asked for volunteers during a speech. When they met eyes-to eyes Messing softly whispered: do not ruin ...
Special had to play along.
The plane wasn’t hurt, so lucky. Evil Eye, Corruption, etc. psychologists designate as psychokinetic trauma. In fact, you had to feel an unkind look on your back, and turning around to see this? Bats, owls, the list can continue to navigate and hunt using ultrasound.
Yes, there are charlatans who claim to see internal organs. In Yeltsin’s time, there was a story about one such healer on TV in Russia: Do you treat all diseases? Yes, everything, even cancer. How do you make the diagnosis? I'll show you now. Here is a boy, he does not hear from birth. He puts index fingers to the boy’s temples and says: I turn on the x-ray and starts to buzz (!!!). Now I will treat him. Again puts index fingers and with the words I turn on the laser starts to buzz (!!!) That's all. Boy do you hear The boy nods his head, but I hear.
Biofield? There are no miracles. The hemoglobin molecule in the red blood cell has Fe ++, i.e. a dipole. Hence the potential difference of the red blood cell itself. The movement of red blood cells through the vessels and creates a biofield. From some women it’s warm as from a stove, it pierces through and through. And from others, no matter how beautiful, there is a grave cold when you are standing nearby. Did not notice?
Work on the protection of aircraft and turntables from MANPADS should be ongoing. I really liked the video how the T-64 driver in Syria deceived the ATGM barmaley.
But maybe Kalashnikov will offer something more simple and reliable, like a twin of two small-caliber machine guns controlled by an on-board computer?
The opinion of a sofa layman and amateur will seem funny to someone. But have there been such attempts or not?

[dmi.pris1]

Fuses on the warhead of grenade launchers also put the simplest piezo-lighter .. This is such a dilemma .. We: We must go into battle, carry out a combat mission. Often self-preservation goes here .. Here they sit on unexplored sites, they risk it. Amers: They will suck a month, preparing, bribing local so that there are no incidents. Fly in large groups with cover.

[rruvim]

Exactly! Therefore, the task of the rotorcraft, due to its ability to hover in place (i.e., Doppler radars do not work), hide behind the terrain, i.e. Do not fall under the fire of the ZSU and the small explosive

[Aandrewsir]

It's good that the defense industry is working and creating new systems. Let's hope they become more perfect.

[Serhiodjan]

On the last branch about helicopters, no one answered me: why didn’t they even think of putting helicopters on active helicopters like active tanks? !! In my opinion this is so logical, it flies into a missile, you bang a charge into it and that’s it ... Who knows?

[Muvka]

I suppose because anti-aircraft missiles destroy the target somewhat differently. Anti-tank penetrate the armor, and here the rockets explode at a distance, directing a bunch of damaging elements at the target. And if you undermine a rocket even at a distance of 10 meters from the helicopter, the fragments will still reach the helicopter. Although maybe this is my couch opinion. I do not pretend to the truth.
Of course, it would most likely work against TOU, but this is a rather narrow scope for KAZ.

[Leto]

On the last branch about helicopters, no one answered me: why didn’t they even think of putting helicopters on active helicopters like active tanks? !!

For a tank, an increase in mass per ton is unpleasant, but tolerable, for a helicopter is unacceptable.

[dmi.pris1]

It’s not even a matter of tons. The physics of the fuselage process will crush like an inflated bag with cotton in different directions ...

[rruvim]

Recoil, loss of stability, excess load on the fuselage, etc.

[Varaga]

It is high time. If you’d do it before, you see, our falcons in Syria would not die.

[Vladimir 1964]

Hey site owners, you can at least once a month throw something smart, and not just dumb chewing gum for victims of Lifan's education reform.

[dmi.pris1]

And besides "stupid chewing gum" they still have Ukraine with all its contents in store .... And nothing else ..

[Zomanus]

Well, after our turntables were shot down in Syria, conclusions are drawn, tasks are set.
This is what distinguishes the run-in in real combat from polygon display.
Let's hope that the new complex will work as it should ... in combat conditions.

[rruvim]

One question remained about the MI-28N crash. Our night vision goggles were not perfect. And there was the "Talevskaya" matrix. Did the French cheat by accident or on purpose?

[Danil Laryon]

This is off topic, but you will like it.

[bald]

He recalled that “Vitebsk is a family of complexes that can be adapted to almost any type of aircraft, including military transport and civilian.”

be sure to set. Expensive, but flying in a strange sky, save.

[Operator]

Since protection from ZSU does not exist, it is necessary to remove attack helicopters from armament as soon as possible and replace them with reconnaissance and strike groups from an unarmored helicopter - a carrier of guided missiles and reconnaissance UAV - target designator.

[gispanec]

is ... shot down from MANPADS ....

[Muvka]

Link will be? Or is it the only source?

[gispanec]

right now there ... in Syria ... but how do you refute my allegations?

[Former battalion commander]

Full protection against missile weapons can only provide individual missile defense. On what principles it can only be estimated. Maybe this is a high-precision rapid-fire artillery weapon, maybe a short-range missile, maybe something like a tank KAZ. But it is only clear that by any radio interference it is IMPOSSIBLE to protect an airplane or a helicopter in principle. And to spend efforts and time on this is impractical. Of course, while there is no REALLY EFFECTIVE defense system, what this group does will do, but BASIC EFFORTS must be spent on an INDIVIDUAL PRO aircraft.

[parkello]

all this is not the direction, it is certainly good when the helicopter or plane is protected from air attack weapons, but in my opinion more should be done on the means of detecting and instantly destroying the enemy before he can use his weapons ... well, or at least disable its optics or weapons guidance. taller than 2,5 km in height, small-scale anti-aircraft weapons are useless, they will not be stupidly accessible, and existing systems can protect against missiles with electronics, so it is necessary to actively develop detection and attack tools at heights not accessible to conventional projectiles like ZSU 4-23 Shilka and like him. Yes, I understand that these developments cost a lot of money, but what to do ?! it is necessary. because how to follow the path of least resistance, that is, along the path of developing BKO, is accompanied by other troubles with the loss of aircraft and personnel from fire from other weapons that the BKO developer does not provide. and detection tools increase the likelihood of destroying the enemy before he can use his weapon first. here you need to be the first to see, and the first to use weapons with maximum accuracy, or simply not spare the ammunition for its destruction. in general, I don’t know, this is my purely personal opinion on this topic, personally it seems to me that it would be more correct to improve the means of detecting a probable (and potential) enemy so that I could be the first to deliver a preemptive strike, only this can protect the flight crew in the air on all flight modes.

[just exp]

dmi.pris,
TAU is an abbreviation. you do not write the word laser in aglitsky. and this is exactly the English abbreviation
light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation