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Vasilyeva’s first fight: Russia needs a man, not a consumer

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Fears of recipients of grants from Western funds and simply Russophobes begin to come to life much faster than they expected. The new head of the Ministry of Education and Science, Olga Vasilyeva, did not begin to sway for a long time and began an attack on the main postulate of Fursenko — Livanov: “We need consumers” in several directions at once. Last night, she fired a number of high-ranking functionaries of the Ministry of Education, who, under Dmitry Livanov, were responsible for information policy, property and personnel.


Vasilyeva’s first fight: Russia needs a man, not a consumer


Among the dismissed - deputy ministers Alexander Klimov, Ekaterina Tolstikova and Alexander Povalko. Heads of leading departments also lost their seats: the information policy department (Anna Usacheva), the property department (Aleksandra Kharchenko), the department of civil service, personnel and business management (Vladimir Golubovsky) and the state policy department in the field of education of children and youth (Alexander Stradze). "Stradze, she fired first, then were fired people who were responsible for important areas of work of the ministry - PR, property issues and personnel," - RBC reports.

Vasilyeva does not intend to limit herself to administrative shifts alone - changes are coming in the education system itself, about which the new minister spoke on the eve of the Day of Knowledge in the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation and during conversations with parents. Some of her statements immediately became a sensation — and a bitter pill for the liberal, pro-Western “fifth column”.

The keynote of Olga Vasilyeva's performance at all venues was the installation of the return of the educational component in the educational process. “I will do everything possible to ensure that extracurricular time is spent on educating and shaping a student as a person,” said Vasilyeva, adding that school teachers should devote extra time with students to educate them on citizenship, and not “train on the USE.”

Olga Vasilyeva also threatened to “sacred” for the advocates of “individual freedom from herself”, announcing plans to restrict free Internet in schools “I believe that in schools there should be a preventive substitute for Internet. So that the child is engaged in active activities, sports, music, in order to distract him from the constant desire to sit on the net all the time, ”the minister said.

Another important revelation of the minister was the promise to return compulsory labor lessons to school (now they are far from everywhere): “Without diligence, without skills that we owe first and foremost to family and school, without skills to work hourly, every second, to gain success from work we can live, ”the minister said in response to the return of labor lessons to school. - ““ Now this subject, which we both loved and called “work”, and which gave us the very skills that we carried throughout our lives, these are “technologies”. In 2017, it will be launched. Everything that concerns “doing with hands” and what really needs to be done with hands, because not only high technologies are the future, where there are buttons, buttons, buttons, this is great, but with our hands we should be able to do and teach it to everything ”.

Olga Vasilyeva also said that Russian schools will gradually refuse lessons on Saturday; the transition to the five-day school will not affect only the tenth and eleventh grades. The approach to the beloved offspring of educational reformers according to the State Department textbooks - the Unified State Examination will also change: for the first time this year there will be an oral part - the Russian language and literature, test tasks with ready answers in physics, chemistry and biology will be removed. “If they recognize the experience as successful, they will also think about graduation classes. After all, how many conversations were there about the advantages of the old, non-test system, when the student gave his answer personally to the teacher, ”Vasilyeva said about the USE.

The next crucial point was the decision to gradually return to a single standard of schooling and to minimize differences in programs: when moving from one region to another, schoolchildren often face completely new curricula. We hope that this applies primarily to the lessons. stories--- Patriots have been talking about the creation of a single history textbook for many years, President Putin gave the Ministry of Education a relevant task more than two years ago — but it has been sabotaged by Furmies — Lebanon and the like. The results of such sabotage can be observed in Ukraine — where, using false textbooks of history published on Soros's money, they raised a generation of mutants who did not remember the kinship, who pushed this part of the Russian world from its civilizational path into the chaos of civil war.
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  1. Evil543
    Evil543 5 September 2016 06: 08
    +8
    Not bad for a start ... Let's see how quickly she leaves.
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 5 September 2016 06: 15
      +17
      One thing is not clear. Why did they wait so long for a chance to change leadership. 6 years of criticism from all sides and peas against the wall.
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 5 September 2016 07: 01
        +18
        Soon, the elections, ministers and politicians begin to say what the voter wants to hear from them, what will happen after the elections.
        1. Leto
          Leto 5 September 2016 07: 35
          +2
          The topic of canceling the exam is a win-win.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 5 September 2016 08: 55
        +11
        Quote: Evil543
        She fired Stradze first, then people who were responsible for the important areas of the ministry's work — public relations, property issues and personnel, were fired, ”RBC reports.
        RBC is still that gang of watering can, the same will be perverted, all beyond recognition. But the beginning is good and the thoughts are right, let's see what happens next, if she goes as she says, then it will not be scary to let her grandchildren go to school. Yes
        Quote: Leto
        Let's see how quickly she leaves.

        Volodin is standing behind her, so such an option is unlikely.
        But who would not be standing, even Volodin, even Putin, even Lord God, the main thing that would be done. wink
      3. iConst
        iConst 5 September 2016 09: 55
        +12
        Quote: Mahmut
        One thing is not clear. Why did they wait so long for a chance to change leadership. 6 years of criticism from all sides and peas against the wall.

        Because Russia is still in some way controlled from the State Department.

        And Putin has to work with a mass of "servants of the people" who begin the morning with a trip to the US embassy for instructions (exaggerating).

        Well, Putin can not replace all the ministers, deputies and other, other, other ...

        Any appointment to a key post is zealously monitored by the endors, and if that happens, powerful pressure begins.

        Why do you think all sorts of curls come back, Chubais and other liberal foam are not flooding?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 00
          +9
          Well, Putin can not replace all the ministers
          Honestly, I would put a minus in silence so as not to be distracted by rubbish. Putin himself appointed ALL the ministers, chose for a long time, and now he can not cope with those whom he chose? You are some kind of anti-Putin, so call him.
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 5 September 2016 11: 04
            +11
            Quote: Gardamir
            Honestly, I would put a minus in silence so as not to be distracted by rubbish
            Leonid, frankly speaking, the minuses were canceled for that, no matter how silently it was, and now you’ve justified what you would have set a minus for your colleague. hi You remember earlier, too, like a tomato blushing from the minuses, but now you freely express your point of view. wink
            Quote: Gardamir
            Putin himself appointed ALL the ministers, chose for a long time, and now he can not cope with those whom he chose?
            And according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the president appoints the prime minister, and the prime minister already appoints ALL ministers. Yesterday in the discussion with you they talked about this, separate all the same flies from cutlets. hi
            1. Thirteenth
              Thirteenth 5 September 2016 12: 14
              +7
              And according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the president appoints the prime minister, and the prime minister already appoints ALL ministers. Yesterday in the discussion with you they talked about this, separate all the same flies from cutlets. hi


              The question immediately begs itself, but for hell does the president appoint and hold for many years the prime minister who appoints such ministers?
            2. Thirteenth
              Thirteenth 5 September 2016 12: 17
              +2
              I remember you used to be like a tomato blushing from the minuses, but now you freely express your point of view


              And as I understand it, you were constantly green from the pros, expressing or adapting to the point of view that is generally welcomed on this resource?
              There are many like you fighting for the maximum number of likes. Only here is the meaning of these likes or advantages? From them, what, self-esteem and self-worth rises?
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            4. twviewer
              twviewer 5 September 2016 14: 48
              +2
              And according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the president

              Around the enemies. The people will turn for support, apparently faith does not allow. But the constitution does not allow to rob people and faith. Such is the discord.
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            1. 79807420129
              79807420129 5 September 2016 11: 29
              +8
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I’m wondering, what if Putin is reelected from a heart attack in 2018?

              Diana love love hi Here most kondraty enough. request Oh and insidious you are a woman love So they scared all the badges and potreots. laughing lol Best regards
            2. Gardamir
              Gardamir 5 September 2016 17: 34
              +6
              I'm wondering
              I’m also wondering how, you are a person who remembers the Soviet regime with good, including Stalin, you can love the protege of the oligarchs liberal Putin so much. It is under Putin that Russia pays the rent to America (Treasuries), it is under Putin that monuments to the Nazis are erected in the country that defeated Nazism, it was Putin who neither word nor deed supported the Olympians, it was Putin who said "let them try to shoot" did not protect Donbass. The list can be long. And this article is a pre-election campaign, in six months everyone will forget what was said and promised.
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      5. Fitter65
        Fitter65 5 September 2016 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: Mahmut
        One thing is not clear. Why did they wait so long for a chance to change leadership. 6 years of criticism from all sides and peas against the wall.

        Stalin also did not immediately begin to cleanse the country from the Trotskyists.
    2. Leto
      Leto 5 September 2016 07: 20
      +2
      Let's see how quickly she leaves.

      Volodin is standing behind her, so such an option is unlikely.
    3. guzik007
      guzik007 5 September 2016 08: 30
      +8
      Not bad for a start ... Let's see how quickly she leaves
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      I hope it will not come to this, because this was preceded by the symbolic dismissal of Ivanov, who "protected" the entire liberal bloc. Starting from Naibullina with Ulyukaev and ending with Fursenko and Livanov.
      Meanwhile, liberals begin subversive work on the front of juvenile justice. So, last week, in Bugulma, a large, prosperous family (father-lawyer!) Was fined and registered only for the fact that their 6-year-old child is in a country cottage the village rode off on a bike 800 meters from the house!
      Immediately ran into the pack and away we go ...
      They are gaining experience in weaning children, and they are not interested in associal families with a bunch of problems. The father himself is still in shock from what happened: “all our children learn to be independent from an early age, everyone goes to sections and circles. Now, should they be locked up?” - the father is amazed.
      ... I remembered my childhood ... and how we were left alive without these "well-wishers"? : =)
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 04
        +5
        Ivanov, who "protected" the entire liberal bloc. Starting from Naibullina with Ulyukaev and ending with Fursenko and Livanov.
        what you say nonsense, as if you just woke up. here are the people of Putin
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 5 September 2016 17: 59
          0
          what you say nonsense, as if you just woke up. here are the people of Putin
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          And you are not up to date. In your opinion, the siloviki is a priori ... the siloviki.
          As SAM said: Uh ... you know ... umm ... I myself confess a big liberal ...
          Read daily analytics in different sources, make your own opinion from puzzles
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 5 September 2016 11: 55
        0
        Ivanov seems to have always been considered one of the leaders of the "power" bloc. It is precisely the "liberals" who dislike him.
      3. Evil543
        Evil543 5 September 2016 12: 10
        +1
        If he had been fired, he would have been pulled out of the Security Council, and so ... think up the development of events yourself. Maybe this is the future president who will early resign leaving the place of GDP for a new term. what
    4. Jack-b
      Jack-b 5 September 2016 08: 46
      +2
      Quote: Evil543
      Not bad for a start ... Let's see how quickly she leaves.

      They may not go away. But this is either populism, or she sets unrealistic goals. There was a man in the USSR, but it was enough to build one McDonald's in 1990, and the whole country of people instantly decided that the fuck shouldn't be a man, a consumer to be much better. I still don't understand how Soviet people could line up in a queue of many kilometers at this fucking McDonald's? Yes, the shops did not shine with their assortment, but they were not starving! So I am very skeptical about her intentions to educate "people".
      Threat. And I have one more thought. We already had one Vasiliev, so ardently unloved by many citizens of our country. When her boss got the appointment, the intentions were also the best. And promises even somewhere were similar. How the whole thing ended we know.
      1. KAV
        KAV 5 September 2016 09: 54
        +3
        So much criticism and doubts from you, dear. OK. Let's leave it as it is? So what? Whoever is appointed, no matter what the new minister says - you can always express your opinion in the spirit of "yes ........ - do not roll bags". So maybe not change anything at all? Let everything be as it was - so even though there will be no need to test any hopes?
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b 5 September 2016 11: 14
          0
          Quote: KAV
          Let everything be as it was - so even though there will not be any hopes to experience?

          Real goals must be set. A consumer cannot be corroded from a person. But the net consumer is shitty. We must learn to combine.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 06
        +1
        how Soviet people could
        You just forgot that the Gorbachev era was actively advertising the American way of life.
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b 5 September 2016 11: 18
          0
          He was general secretary for five years. The Soviet Union existed for 70 years. Soviet man "brought up" 70 years was enough for five years to send everything that was and become a consumer? Of course not. For 70 years they have not been able to corrode the consumer and raise a person. All that could hide the consumer for the time being.
      3. guzik007
        guzik007 5 September 2016 19: 04
        +1
        I still don’t understand how the Soviet people could line up in a multi-kilometer queue in this fucking McDonald's?
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        The law of dialectics says: "one black sheep spoils the whole flock." So "Soviet people could line up" is not about everyone, but about 20-25 percent. I remember very well these shots from Moscow and how most of us commented on it.
        I myself was in this eatery only three times, already at zero and only because of the children.
    5. romandostalo
      romandostalo 6 September 2016 05: 02
      0
      It’s not very bad and we hope that they don’t leave. I'd like to believe!
  2. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 5 September 2016 06: 11
    +16
    Bravo! The new head of the Ministry of Education and Science has a huge respect! Now the liberal stink will rise! And it will be necessary to go further without curtailing!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 5 September 2016 13: 13
      +4
      Already this morning, at the "rain", with the Jewish boy Vitya Nabutov, there was such a liberal howl that it became "terrible" straight away ...
      So the new minister is doing everything right!
      Persistence and success!
  3. Fox
    Fox 5 September 2016 06: 18
    +3
    I promise to promise ... the slogan of the Medvedev government. and Fursenko ... an adviser to the president, who "suits the government."
    but the words of the new minister are correct. and there’s nothing more to add.
  4. svp67
    svp67 5 September 2016 06: 24
    +5
    For 70 years the communists have not been able to raise a "new man", it turned out to be easier for the capitalists to raise a "consumer" in 25 years, and how does she want to replay it now? In my opinion, this is impossible to do without state ideology.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 5 September 2016 06: 45
      +6
      The Communists were largely prevented by their own ideology and the refusal to take a sober look at many things.
      Now we have the experience of the Union, we have 20 years of education as directed from the outside. And the results are on the face. And the GDP, having seen both of them, understands how to do the right thing. Therefore, it puts a person who will once again modernize the education system of Russia. And Vasilyeva will have support.
      This is my personal opinion hi
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 September 2016 07: 37
        +5
        Support, this is not enough. STATE IDEOLOGY is needed, and for this it is necessary to change the constitution, otherwise, with the departure or arrival of the next president, our country will change its course.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 September 2016 17: 37
        +3
        And the GDP, having seen both of them, understands how to do the right thing
        for some reason, he began to understand before the election.
        1. murriou
          murriou 12 September 2016 12: 00
          0
          and after the election, as usual, it will suddenly unlearn how to understand the desires of its own, as it were, people.
    2. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 5 September 2016 07: 33
      0
      svp67
      For 70 years the communists have not been able to raise a "new man", it turned out to be easier for the capitalists to raise a "consumer" in 25 years, and how does she want to replay it now? In my opinion, this is impossible to do without state ideology.

      And how did they differ?
      Both communists and capitalists, hatched (and hatched) the idea of ​​hegemony, in which the whole society should be a consumer. The difference was only in the offers of the consumed.
      For both sides (Communism or Capitalism), a separation between classes is needed: Leaders - Subordinates. The capitalists, at the same time, introduced another layer of the oligarch. The one who could bribe both the lower and the upper, manipulating both the public opinion of the lower classes and the desires of the legislative branch.
      IMHO! hi
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 September 2016 07: 41
        +11
        And how did they differ?
        You just said such nonsense. The communists had the idea of ​​creating a classless society and, accordingly, the "consumer" was alien to them and they fought against him. Read from the Strugatskys "Monday begins on Saturday", there it is not badly described. The fact that the communists have degenerated and their deeds and words have become complete opposites is already our grief.
        1. Ruswolf
          Ruswolf 5 September 2016 08: 14
          +1
          svp67
          And how did they differ?
          You just said such nonsense

          I said no stupidity if you read the commentary to the end, and do not make a decision on the first phrases.
          The difference was only in the offers of consumed
          In a priori, "Consumer" is a person who consumes the offered goods, services, ideas.
          That is, the consumer will always be!
          The question is what will it consume!
          As for the USSR, fly with Aeroflot! One would think that there were other airlines on domestic flights. So there is no difference.
          The communists had the idea of ​​creating a classless society and, accordingly, the "consumer" was alien to them and they fought against him.

          A classless society is a utopia! Like the very idea of ​​communism! That is why the idea of ​​transition from Socialism to Communism was the "Kalinov Bridge over the Smorodina River".
          But this, if attributed to the field of political confrontation.

          If we return to the topic of the article, then My position is that the consumer (and this concept is not possible to remove from society) should be competent and able to choose what is needed. He must know: What, Why, and Why! And do not be dumb B ... who takes advantage of those benefits that are imposed. Woke up, the sun is, Grass is! Live, chew ... and so on until you stabbed.

          We have been told for a long time that advertising is the engine of trade, but they forgot to say that it is aimed at the consumer. And it is he - the consumer - who must determine the need for what is proposed. Unfortunately, as we see, for the consumer this is decided by the media and advertising agencies, imposing their vision and desires.
          IMHO! hi
          1. svp67
            svp67 5 September 2016 10: 03
            +12
            As for the USSR, fly with Aeroflot! One would think that there were other airlines on domestic flights. So there is no difference.
            Again stupidity, an alternative to Aeroflot airplanes was in the form of trains, passenger ships and automobile transport. So, something like this. The plane was NOT the only mode of transport. And by the way, the number of people flying on the planes of the SINGLE aviation company was greater than now on planes of many companies, and availability was higher, each district center had its own working airfield.
            A classless society is utopia! Like the very idea of ​​communism!
            This is the dream people aspired to, and what capitalism gives only one dream, it is MONEY, or rather MANY MONEY. And this is not a utopia, but a swamp ....
            1. Ruswolf
              Ruswolf 5 September 2016 11: 23
              +1
              svp67
              An alternative to Aeroflot aircraft was in the form of trains, passenger ships and road transport. So, something like this. The plane was NOT the only mode of transport.

              Here you yourself are responsible as a Soviet consumer of transport services! who chose from what is. The same is offered to the modern consumer in an extended framework. Just what then (during the USSR) what now, no one talks about the shortcomings. A human consumer should use only what is a priority for the one who provides. (state, business, etc.)
              You can argue endlessly and everyone will bring their arguments strong and weak.
              But the concept of "human consumer" was, is and will be.
              Most likely, the question should be posed in the fact that a person’s self-determination was removed in the full sense, leaving the definition adjustable — determined by the framework proposed in the interests of a separate group. (even under the USSR there was an article for farsing!)
              Although I will not argue that the term "consumer" is often understood as a lazy person who is used to just taking! - But this is already a separate topic of discussion!
              This is the dream people aspired to, and what capitalism gives only one dream, it is MONEY, or rather MANY MONEY. And this is not a utopia, but a swamp ....

              Real money - "Swamp", expanded consumer opportunities and brought their implementation closer, became closer to people than the idea of ​​universal equality.
              Somehow I did not notice that there was a great desire for communism. People both in those times, and now, wanted to earn more in order to spend more.
              hi
              Unfortunately, they used to get more, but were not able to buy
              Now what to buy, there is an opportunity - but no funds have been acquired for these!
              drinks To opportunity, meet the needs!
              1. murriou
                murriou 13 September 2016 10: 29
                0
                You get confused out of the blue, trying to operate with words whose meaning you do not fully understand.

                Yes, consumption is a normal part of human life. Yes, to some extent, any person is a consumer of some goods.
                But. Consumer-by-Fursenko is a person for whom consumption is the main characteristic, and consumption is the main occupation and meaning of life.
                What is now called the apt word "consumerism".

                In this sense, consumers and "consumerism" in the USSR were undesirable. They tried to educate Soviet people as, first of all, creators, creators and producers.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 5 September 2016 11: 58
            +2
            From childhood, I personally understood and liked the ideas of socialism. But as far as communism is concerned, nobody really could explain to us schoolchildren what it is. I wanted us to build normal socialism and not to grow into incomprehensible communism.))
            1. murriou
              murriou 13 September 2016 10: 31
              0
              Socialism was also incomprehensible to the majority, until it was basically built. wink
  5. moskowit
    moskowit 5 September 2016 06: 40
    +11
    God help you, Olga Vasilievna! Rather, form a team of like-minded people. It is hard to stand alone against the champions of "Western democratic values" paid for by the State Department and the CIA ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 16
      +3
      God help you, Olga Vasilievna!
      How naive you are! Maybe you can wait at least six months to understand what she intends to do. The words e in democracy have no weight.
  6. sergej1950
    sergej1950 5 September 2016 06: 42
    +4
    God bless Olga Vasilyeva Good luck !!
    To restore a destroyed education is hard work.
    And liberals stink on every occasion. They need to be constantly aired -
    -Create a system of exams for stinkers and drive them monthly!
  7. bocsman
    bocsman 5 September 2016 06: 44
    +6
    Russia is gradually healing the ulcers left by the traitor Yeltsin and his sovereign team.
    And at the expense of 70 years, it's you in vain! Not all years of educating a person of the future have been wasted. Remember the pre-war generation, had they all been alive there would have been no nineties!
  8. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 5 September 2016 06: 59
    +4
    Lockout in the Ministry of Education laughing

    The main thing is that these initiatives should not be strangled by liberals.

    So that there are no words in arithmetic textbooks "An apple costs one dollar ..."; in the history textbooks there was no El-Alamein as the greatest battle in the Second World War (and the war itself again became the Great Patriotic War); so that the periodic law was discovered by Mendeleev, and not some Meyer, etc.
  9. Berkut752
    Berkut752 5 September 2016 07: 02
    +3
    There is a saying: "The Russian woman will stop the horse for the ride, it will enter the burning hut." Why?
    Yes, because only Russian women are so crazy, in a good sense of the word. These are incredible people, with an incredible soul, and most importantly sacrificial. They feed and shine, heat. And most of them, with some exceptions. Russia is slowly beginning to realize its role in history and to nominate people who really support Russia. I think this is just the beginning of Putin, Shoigu, now Vasiliev, who is next ???
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 5 September 2016 07: 08
    +3
    Russia needs a man, not a consumer ... And where does a man come from in a capitalist consumer society request .
    Regarding the return of labor lessons to school. Who wants to work for a working specialty now? Working specialties are not appreciated, visiting migrant workers took up a lot of jobs. Most people in the country when they see a worker in work clothes have the idea that he is dumb and besides working with his hands for a penny nothing else can. Of course, she says the right things, which are practically impossible to bring to life.
    1. S-kerrigan
      S-kerrigan 5 September 2016 08: 06
      +11
      I think that elementary do-it-yourself skills will benefit everyone.
      It is not necessary to be a locksmith or plumber to be able to fix something in the house. It is not necessary to be a cook from a culinary school in order to be able to cook.

      For example, what can you say about the situation when a man lives alone in an apartment for several years? Without a woman.
      I can give an answer - everything is washed, cleaned, the refrigerator is littered with food. And this is not about the dumplings from the store. This weekend I was preparing myself pea soup for example.

      I am a radio physicist by training, and by profession I am a software developer.
  11. Leto
    Leto 5 September 2016 07: 16
    +8
    More than two years ago, President Putin gave the Ministry of Education a corresponding order — but it is still sabotaging the Fursen — Lebanon and the like.

    The author anneals ... Imagine a picture:
    Putin: - Livanov, put things in order with school programs!
    Livanov: - Yes!
    A year has passed ...
    Putin: - Got it?
    Livanov: -No!
    Putin: - Have you even started?
    Livanov: - No way!
    Putin: - Well, let's get started, otherwise I gave you an order ...
    Livanov: -Never the less!
    Putin: -I rely on you.
    Livanov: _Do not be so kind as to doubt!
    A year has passed ...
    Putin: - Well, how is there a single program?
    Livanov: - No way!
    Putin: - Yes, how is that?
    Livanov: - All the necessary data has been collected, the best minds of the fatherland are working!
    Putin: -Well, you’ll only master ..
    Livanov: -Nevertheless!
    A year has passed ...
    If the king does not know what is happening in the country, he must be imprisoned. If he knows and does not interfere with this, he must be sent to prison. If he knows and promotes, you need to put such kings on the stake
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 5 September 2016 11: 16
      +7
      Quote: Leto
      If the king does not know what is happening in the country, he must be imprisoned. If he knows and does not interfere with this, he must be sent to prison. If he knows and promotes, you need to put such kings on the stake
      And put the king of Mr. Leto? He knows everything and knows how fellow wink laughing Burn Tsarevich. laughing
      1. Leto
        Leto 5 September 2016 12: 58
        0
        And put the king of Mr. Leto? He knows everything and knows how to fellow wink laughing Zhgi Tsarevich. laughing


        And who is the extreme kings?
  12. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 5 September 2016 07: 21
    +4
    After all, how much talk was there about the advantages of the old, non-test system, when the student stated his answer personally to the teacher
    I want to fix a little
    The schoolboy justified his answer. Indeed, the indicator of knowledge does not depend on the presentation, but on the rationale! It is the justification that makes it possible to understand how much the student did not understand, but RECEIVED the program.
    (If in the army, a young soldier knows how to execute the command “Get down!” This does not mean that he understands what it is for! Although it is this understanding (not knowledge, namely, Understanding) that is an indicator of training).
    I would like to wish good luck to the new Minister! And good luck again!
  13. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 5 September 2016 07: 48
    +9
    Quote: Yak28
    Regarding the return of labor lessons to school. Who now wants to work for a working specialty?


    Labor lessons at school, at least during the Soviet era, were aimed primarily at teaching self-service skills (sewing on a button, hammering a nail, making elementary soup), many of the younger generation can do this ?! I finished school in the USSR, in the senior grades we did the classroom renovation (cosmetic) ourselves, while on duty around the school we helped the technicians to keep the corridors and the cafeteria clean, we ourselves (except for elementary school) were responsible for cleanliness and order in the classrooms (each class was assigned cabinet). You can still write a lot about what the school taught us, the important thing is that all knowledge and skills, at least once, were useful in life. I remember how a nurse who taught girls at the VVP lessons once said: "girls, knowledge and skills are such a load that does not put pressure on the shoulders, but can come in handy at any moment." More than once in my life I had to be convinced of the correctness of these words. Something like this.
  14. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 5 September 2016 07: 55
    +4
    I remember how on this site admired Rogozin. they talked and wished a lot of good, and then bam and he all became a zradnik. with Vasilyeva I think it will be the same. when she begins to do what the great couch experts do not understand and what does not meet their ideas.

    As for the article, we will wait and see that it will be good to have a single program. If it is canceled, we will decide by bribes. (so that the teacher would give an oral answer). for example, based on the results of his ex, my girlfriend’s son went to college, and he wouldn’t have any trenches during oral exams. this I say to the fact that with him not everything is so simple
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 5 September 2016 11: 21
      +8
      Quote: Kostya Andrei
      if it is canceled, we will decide by bribes. (so that the teacher would give an oral answer). for example, according to the results of his ex, my girlfriend’s son entered a university, he didn’t have trenches during oral exams
      Hi to a corrupt official, do you even know how many corruption fighters are here? fellow Definitely a plus for your courage. Yes
  15. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 5 September 2016 08: 02
    +1
    Quote: Ruswolf
    I want to fix a little
    The schoolboy justified his answer. Indeed, the indicator of knowledge does not depend on the presentation, but on the rationale! It is the justification that makes it possible to understand how much the student did not understand, but RECEIVED the program.


    That's what I’m saying about that, you need to help the teacher. correctly understand what the student said. for example, to give a certain amount of rubles, or the rector will ask the teacher to take into account the hidden person’s talent (life experience when a person did not speak Russian, but passed exams both in Russian and in history and studied law).
    giving up exe is nonsense
  16. Moore
    Moore 5 September 2016 08: 02
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    For 70 years the communists have not been able to raise a "new man", it turned out to be easier for the capitalists to raise a "consumer" in 25 years

    Could / failed - a debatable issue. Degrading is always easier than developing.
    Collectivism, the desire to create (in the normal sense of the word), to sacrifice something personal for the common good - all this is much more difficult to instill than to play on primitive instincts like to eat deliciously or "buy four crap you don't need and get the same fifth as a gift" ...
  17. Alex66
    Alex66 5 September 2016 08: 19
    0
    I'm afraid she will be removed after the elections and returned to "Livanova". As Medvedev said, he (the Lebanon minister) is not a ruble that everyone would like. Medvedev is still in place. So the new Minister of Education is a forced election move of the United Russia.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 5 September 2016 09: 18
      +1
      Alex66
      I'm afraid she will be removed after the elections and returned to "Livanova". As Medvedev said, he (the Lebanon minister) is not a ruble that everyone would like. Medvedev is still in place. So the new Minister of Education is a forced election move of the United Russia.

      He will quickly dismiss the one who does not buy an iPhone and does not register in the social services. networks.
      He is of little interest to talented people. He is interested in those who look in his mouth and can make predictions using Google.
      I don’t know who and what he thinks, ...... But to me, the cabinet of ministers, reminds quarantine of an antivirus program! It is impossible to remove and cure. Temporarily relocated (for user decision). While in quarantine, they do no harm.
      That's just why for some reason the user (GDP) doesn’t get to check quarantine like no hands.
      IMHO hi
  18. rus-5819
    rus-5819 5 September 2016 08: 21
    +6
    buttons, buttons, buttons, this is great, but with our hands we must be able to do and teach it everything. ”
    I remember there was such a song:
    "We will plow and sow electricity,
    The electricity will wake us up in the dead of darkness
    All electricity will replace us with electricity.
    He clicked on the button and it’s all right there!

    Quote: B.T.W.

    Labor lessons at school, in any case during the USSR, were primarily aimed at teaching self-care skills (sew a button, hammer a nail, cook an elementary soup), many of the younger generation can do this ?! I finished school in the USSR, in high school we did class repairs (cosmetic) ourselves, while on duty at the school we helped technicians maintain cleanliness in the corridors and the dining room, ourselves (except for elementary school) were responsible for the cleanliness and order in the classrooms (each class was assigned cabinet)

    And in labor lessons I mastered the work on the main machines, and in the 10th grade we were already fulfilling the order of the sponsored enterprise. And now I can do almost everything in the house: from repairing plumbing and electrical equipment to making furniture. My women do not need a "husband for an hour". I also bring up my son and grandson.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 5 September 2016 08: 36
      +1
      That's right, experience, knowledge and skills must be shared with the younger generations. If not us, then who ?! Those who want to "bring up our children and grandchildren" according to their own patterns, have spread like mud. Only we can and must resist this. When there are more citizens in the state than the people (not the population), then the state will begin to flourish.
  19. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 5 September 2016 08: 37
    +3
    Quote: Kostya Andreev
    I remember how on this site admired Rogozin. they talked and wished a lot of good, and then bam and he all became a zradnik. with Vasilyeva I think it will be the same. when she begins to do what the great couch experts do not understand and what does not meet their ideas.

    Kostya, you’ll drop this despondency. The country is rebuilding. The army is getting stronger. We will update education. Monday, a beautiful morning. We have to work and earn money. Enough to grieve and lament.
    And thank you, Kostya, that you are very different from the "great sofa experts." Directly, you are full of enthusiasm and optimism.
    Kostya, people gather here, for the most part, educated and with a certain life experience. So, do not arrogantly "rise up spitting" ... No offense hi
    1. Leto
      Leto 5 September 2016 08: 50
      +4
      Kostya, you throw this despondency. The country is rebuilding. The army is growing stronger

      Here you can immediately see the man-TV ...
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 September 2016 08: 54
    +2
    Well done. With these ghouls from education is just the way to go. There was at least some hope that Russian children would not only be literate. but also the patriots of their country.
  21. Boris55
    Boris55 5 September 2016 08: 58
    0
    Last night, she fired a number of senior officials of the Ministry of Education ...

    A new broom sweeps over a new one. Let's see who she picks up in return.
    .... Without hard work, without the skills that we owe first of all to the family and school, without the skills to work hourly, every second, to get success from work, we can not live ...

    Without our labor they cannot live. Livanov simply raised morons, and this simply will grow slaves ...
  22. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 5 September 2016 09: 01
    +3
    Quote: Rurikovich
    The Communists were largely prevented by their own ideology and the refusal to take a sober look at many things.

    The communists just did not interfere with their own ideology. On the contrary, it helped a lot. Even one super-fast (by the standards of other countries) eradication of illiteracy is an example. And there are a million such examples.
    And from the height of today's life and past it is clear that practically everything that was broadcast "avidly" by Soviet propaganda is TRUE. So here you are too, good gentleman.
    Communists ruined their own degeneration in their ranks, after the death of Stalin.
  23. trantor
    trantor 5 September 2016 09: 05
    0
    So far, all these are just words and good intentions. Let's wait and see.
  24. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 5 September 2016 09: 16
    +6
    Quote: Ruswolf
    If we return to the topic of the article, then My position is that the consumer (and this concept is not possible to remove from society) should be competent and able to choose what is needed.

    You absolutely do not understand the essence of the communist idea. Not a bit. Your opponent is right - communism and the concept of "consumer" (in the discussed sense) are incompatible things. For the communist idea, in the first place is not consumption, but labor for the good of the whole society. From which, as a consequence and only as a consequence, and not an end in itself, high-level consumption should follow, but never and never spit on.
    This is expressed by the famous and boring simple, unclouded "consumers" slogan, which actually has a very deep underlying meaning:
    FROM EVERYTHING FOR ABILITY, EVERYONE FOR LABOR.
    Here, in the first place - creativity and self-development. And your reasoning is nothing more than demagogy.

    Sorry for the directness, but in communism you understand, frankly, not really.
    And from the same misunderstanding or rejection of their beloved postulates, the party elite gradually rotted in the USSR. As a result, we have capitalism in the yard.
  25. unknown
    unknown 5 September 2016 09: 19
    +3
    The oral part in the exam is, of course, good. But, the exam was introduced in order to remove corruption from school, leaving it only in universities. And now, that, again, pay there and pay there.
    The real case of the exam in school. A couple of years ago, in one regional city, in a specialized school for in-depth study of the English language, one graduate did not pass the exam in this very language.
    At first glance, the question to the teachers: why was such an incapable student brought to the graduation class, and not sent earlier to any school. In fact, the situation is funnier. A graduate who did not pass the Unified State Examination, several years before this significant event, repeatedly participated in olympiads, including national ones, in this very language, and won prizes. That is, he won the All-Russian Olympiads, but could not pass the exam. Because of the personal hostility of teachers. Presumably, when he defended the honor of the school, there was no hostility.
    The education system needs appeals. Independent from local authorities, who would identify unworthy teachers and contribute to their dismissal.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 26
      +1
      And now that, again, pay there and pay
      Corruption in a society where everything is decided by money is inevitable.
    2. xorgi
      xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 22
      +2
      in the beginning I wanted to give a plus, then I realized that a person does not understand what he is writing about: firstly, the answer on the USE is impersonal, the examiner does not know whose work he checks, moreover this happens collectively and in order to overwhelm the student on the USE it is necessary to have a very strong influence in pedagogical environment. secondly, according to the exam there is an appeal procedure
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 5 September 2016 12: 04
      +1
      And how could personal dislike affect? Teachers who taught this student did not have the right to participate in the examination of knowledge in the form of an exam for him.
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 5 September 2016 12: 21
        0
        generally only teachers of other subjects are present
  26. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 5 September 2016 09: 20
    +1
    Quote: B.T.W.
    and in the 10th grade we were already fulfilling the order of a sponsored enterprise

    Only not sponsored, but patronized. The sponsored ones were you with them.
    1. rus-5819
      rus-5819 5 September 2016 15: 19
      +1
      Thank you for the amendment. You are absolutely right !!! But this does not change the essence; we were taught to create, not to contemplate.
  27. Dimy4
    Dimy4 5 September 2016 09: 23
    +2
    It was at school labor lessons that I learned to work on a woodworking machine. And my first "product" was a crush carved from a wooden blank.
    1. Edvagan
      Edvagan 5 September 2016 11: 18
      +1
      and in grades 10-11 we even received a working specialty "tractor driver-machinist of the 3rd category"))))) True, no one went to work, everyone entered universities, but nevertheless, the fact is a fact
  28. Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 September 2016 09: 33
    0
    Vasilyeva’s first fight: Russia needs a man, not a consumer
    Provide a link where she pronounces such words. And they’ll write it before the elections, and then it turns out that no one said anything.
  29. Samurai3X
    Samurai3X 5 September 2016 09: 41
    +1
    Quote: Jack-B
    I still don’t understand how the Soviet people could line up in a multi-kilometer queue in this fucking McDonald's?

    And you will devour one potato (sometimes with herring and rare vegetables) for at least six months. Since 86, the country has just been flushed down the toilet. Moreover, it was let down by the top of the native and infallible party - the Central Committee. Andropov did not reach quite a bit ...
    In the 90's, people had no particular desire to resist the coup, because to doubt party decisions was uncomfortable on a subconscious level.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 September 2016 10: 33
      +2
      gobble up one potato
      Yes, for a sweet soul!
      I was in Leningrad in 1989. There were no queues yet, and the products lay calmly on the shelves.
      Well, what about Andropov. Gorbachev is his protege.
      1. Samurai3X
        Samurai3X 5 September 2016 13: 02
        +1
        This is in Leningrad.
        Would you visit Voronezh or Saratov.
        It’s the same as judging the United States by Manhattan.
  30. unknown
    unknown 5 September 2016 09: 49
    +8
    It is necessary to abandon the Bologna system in higher education.
    The reformers could not understand its essence, and when transferred to domestic soil, its principles could not be implemented. But this is for the better. In the framework of the Bologna system, a bachelor is a person who has a certain amount of knowledge, but is not trained to put it into practice. That is, dropout. There were those in the USSR, with incomplete higher education. In modern Russia, despite the introduction of the Bologna system, all the same, they try to train specialists at all levels, although they call them fashionable. Then why was the city garden fenced, creating another extra step. Apparently from incompetence. Or, from conscious wrecking.
  31. uskrabut
    uskrabut 5 September 2016 09: 56
    +2
    The logical step is to repeal the current law on education, which is also a petition. See also Soros wrote.
  32. Const
    Const 5 September 2016 10: 36
    +4
    It was high time to open our eyes, especially since people have been saying this for a long time. In my family, my wife and I graduated. Reading the textbooks of the son of 11 years, we are discouraged. Everything is so short, peremptory and at least debatable. It’s scary to think about the future of the child.
  33. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 5 September 2016 10: 59
    +1
    Good news! Hooray to the new minister!
    Why did you have to wait so long and put on such important posts of the infamous bastards, such as the nits of Lebanon. This stupid insignificance cannot even be ruled by a barn. Miraculous works of providence!
  34. xorgi
    xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 04
    0
    The words are correct, let's look at the implementation. Of the minuses: firstly, she does not remove "bad personnel", but clears up space for her team, and we do not know by what principle this team will be recruited. Secondly, the usefulness of the USE was based on three pillars: the separation of the exam from the school (which allowed the student to get an assessment regardless of the relationship between the teacher and the administration), the possibility of submitting the results to a remote university, an impersonal written response (which made it possible to put the assessment regardless of the student's personality) ... Now they have knocked out one support, the oral answer leads to the influence of the student on the examiner (he can be persuaded, intimidated, bribed). Accordingly, we will no longer receive real results from the student, but we will get the results of interaction between the student and the examiner. It is not known how the new leadership will cope with this problem, and whether it will be solved in principle is also another question.
    1. Edvagan
      Edvagan 5 September 2016 11: 16
      +1
      Well, the exam did not stop the natives of Chechnya and Dagestan from taking the Russian language for the highest scores. And mathematics ... Every mountaineer since childhood is a mathematician ...
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 18
        +1
        Do you think it was different with the Union? or will it be in a new form?
      2. xorgi
        xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 26
        +1
        Well, in more detail, the teacher present on the exam can promote the student (for this you need to "pay" a sufficient number of people, but in principle it is possible), but it is incredibly difficult to "fill up" a knowledgeable student, and this is a huge plus of the exam, was
  35. Edvagan
    Edvagan 5 September 2016 11: 15
    0
    hope this is just the beginning. And then almost buried education, not only school, but also higher. even graduates are not able to write competently ......
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 18
      0
      It's not about education, but about society
  36. Basil50
    Basil50 5 September 2016 11: 21
    +1
    It seems to me that without returning to school for men, there can be no talk of any upbringing. Today in school, the basis of upbringing is female behavior, when by any means, up to intrigues and outright lies, they achieve their goals. And it is grafted onto the boys. That is why when confronted with a frank crime, that at school, that * on the street * they try * to get out * not daring to fight back or to give change to outright scum.
    The fact that labor teaching will return is a half measure, it is necessary to return to school the lessons of logic, astronomy and be sure to return the EXAMS starting from the fourth grade annually, and do not hesitate to leave for the second year. It's time to wean off treat EXAMS as stressful. Sometimes it’s just a shame for students and teachers who justify refusal of exams by the fact that it * hurts * the psyche * of the child *.
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 5 September 2016 11: 53
      +1
      the subject "Logic" in school is absolutely unnecessary, since there are incredibly few branches where the methodological apparatus of logic is used, but knowledge of logic itself, in relation to various branches, is necessary, and this is what is taught in separate subjects.
      exams starting from the fourth grade can be introduced by decision of the teacher's council, and even if there are none, students still write the final work for the year, how does it differ from the content exam? nothing. only form.
      but on the second year, I agree, and you still need to introduce a five-point assessment system and parental responsibility
  37. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 5 September 2016 11: 21
    +1
    We wish you good luck in her difficult endeavors.
  38. gostomysl
    gostomysl 5 September 2016 11: 24
    0
    Quote: S-Kerrigan
    I think that elementary do-it-yourself skills will benefit everyone.
    It is not necessary to be a locksmith or plumber to be able to fix something in the house. It is not necessary to be a cook from a culinary school in order to be able to cook.

    For example, what can you say about the situation when a man lives alone in an apartment for several years? Without a woman.
    I can give an answer - everything is washed, cleaned, the refrigerator is littered with food. And this is not about the dumplings from the store. This weekend I was preparing myself pea soup for example.

    I am a radio physicist by training, and by profession I am a software developer.
  39. gostomysl
    gostomysl 5 September 2016 11: 28
    0
    Quote: S-Kerrigan
    I think that elementary do-it-yourself skills will benefit everyone.
    It is not necessary to be a locksmith or plumber to be able to fix something in the house. It is not necessary to be a cook from a culinary school in order to be able to cook.

    For example, what can you say about the situation when a man lives alone in an apartment for several years? Without a woman.
    I can give an answer - everything is washed, cleaned, the refrigerator is littered with food. And this is not about the dumplings from the store. This weekend I was preparing myself pea soup for example.

    I am a radio physicist by training, and by profession I am a software developer.
    1. gostomysl
      gostomysl 5 September 2016 11: 54
      +1
      [quote = S-Kerrigan] I think that basic do-it-yourself skills will benefit everyone.
      It is not necessary to be a locksmith or plumber to be able to fix something in the house. It is not necessary to be a cook from a culinary school in order to be able to cook.


      In my opinion, armlessness comes from the snobbery of the division into mental and physical labor. It seems like physical labor is the destiny of people who are not distant and not smart. Eighty percent of the work of the human brain is tied to the thumbs. And if a person did not develop their mind in childhood, the person is perverted. To many people with the so-called Haini education, you cannot trust a shovel in your hands, and collectives trust them.
  40. gorez.69
    gorez.69 5 September 2016 11: 45
    +2
    At least one good news, I think that my children will be trained in a human way, and not in a Western flawed model
  41. Rostislav
    Rostislav 5 September 2016 11: 46
    +3
    One can only rejoice at such reasonable endeavors - the restriction of the Internet, labor lessons, unified training programs, etc.
    Health, endurance and perseverance, - the work of building the education system and patriotic education of youth is work for years, if not decades.
    It’s easy to break, to build much longer.
  42. dummy
    dummy 5 September 2016 12: 16
    0
    [quote = Ruswolf] [quote] svp67

    The difference was only in the offers of consumed
    In a priori, "Consumer" is a person who consumes the offered goods, services, ideas.
    That is, the consumer will always be!
    hi[/ Quote]
    In order for there to be a Consumer, you need to have a Creator. More precisely, even so, the Creator can survive without a Consumer, but on the contrary, it is unlikely. And if society creates Consumers and spread rot of Creators, then it will only engage in robbery. This is not in Russian and the Communists have nothing to do with it.
  43. dummy
    dummy 5 September 2016 12: 17
    0
    Quote: Dummy
    Quote: Ruswolf


    The difference was only in the offers of consumed
    In a priori, "Consumer" is a person who consumes the offered goods, services, ideas.
    That is, the consumer will always be!

    In order for there to be a Consumer, you need to have a Creator. More precisely, even so, the Creator can survive without a Consumer, but on the contrary, it is unlikely. And if society creates Consumers and spread rot of Creators, then it will only engage in robbery. This is not in Russian and the Communists have nothing to do with it.
  44. BAI
    BAI 5 September 2016 12: 35
    +1
    Reasonable decisions. By the way, "any actions of a commander in battle are justified if they are boldly and resolutely carried out." (My father was born in 1923 (2 out of 100 survived), during the Second World War - the commander of a platoon of 82-mm mortars). Now the main thing is to do at least something, and not to allow all education to be sucked into the bog.
  45. xBoris
    xBoris 5 September 2016 12: 36
    +2
    Who else would update the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor's Office !!!!!
  46. CONTROL
    CONTROL 5 September 2016 12: 42
    +2
    Quote: Jack-B
    He was general secretary for five years. The Soviet Union existed for 70 years. Was it enough for a Soviet person "brought up" 70 years old to send everything that was and become a consumer? ...

    Who once again reminds the parable of Socrates and the cabaret? ...
    They forgot about the soul - with this Western "consumerism"! And, as you know - "the soul is obliged to work ...!" Without difficulty - not only the muscles atrophy, but also the brains (sclerosis ...) ... and feelings ...
    Nikolay Zabolotsky
    DO NOT LET THE SINGLE LUNGE
    Do not let your soul be lazy!
    So that the stupa does not piss water,
    The soul must work
    And day and night, and day and night!
    Drive her from house to house,
    Drag from stage to stage,
    On a wasteland, on a windbreak,
    Through the snowdrift, through bump!
    Do not let her sleep in bed.
    With the light of the morning star,
    Keep lazy person in a black body
    And do not take the reins off her!
    If you give her an indulgence,
    Exempt from work,
    She's the last shirt
    With you, without pity, it will.
    And you grab her by the shoulders,
    Teach and torment until dark,
    To live with you humanly
    She studied again.
    She is a slave and a queen,
    She is a worker and a daughter,
    She must work
    And day and night, and day and night!
    1958
  47. 1536
    1536 5 September 2016 12: 42
    +1
    Actually, it's time to change the entire cartridge clip. And then it became unclear which idle, which misfires, and which is simply the wrong caliber. And how to understand all this, is also not clear? Or are there really changes in education coming, proceeding from the logic that a person needs to be given knowledge, otherwise he will be an idiot, or is it just "Russian roulette", and someone will believe that this is not a game?
    Most importantly, it is necessary to drive out schoolmakers, crooks and sharkuns, who call white black and black white, from schools and universities, not even regret the victory of the Red Army over the White Guards, but, raise it higher, about the victory of the Soviet people in the war against German fascism.
    But it is evident that the "changes" will end only at the level of the Ministry of Education. And schools and universities will be left to their own devices to an even greater extent. And the American ambassador, his consuls, and other procurators from the United States will teach there.
  48. Zubr
    Zubr 5 September 2016 12: 54
    +3
    Oh well done, now I can say with confidence that I will help my son with the old owls. Methodology. Astronomy, ...
    RETURN !!!
  49. CONTROL
    CONTROL 5 September 2016 12: 58
    +3
    Quote: xorgi
    the usefulness of the exam was based on three pillars: ...

    ... And harmfulness - how many ... supports ?!
    Quote: xorgi
    Accordingly, we will stop receiving real student results, but we will get the results of the student’s and examiner's interaction. How the new leadership to deal with this problem is unknown, and whether it will solve it in principle is also another question.

    And this is - the main result of the exam! Namely - the interaction!
    Peter I during the oral statements of officials - especially the noble boyars! - took away from them speeches and "theses" written down "on pieces of paper", forced them to say "alive" - ​​"so that the crap of everyone was immediately visible! ..."
  50. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 5 September 2016 13: 11
    +3
    Hospodi! Well, at least one ray of light in the educational darkness of recent times! God give her to implement everything conceived!
    And about labor ..... My labor teacher V.P. Dudin raised thousands of boys for his long work at school. Moreover, he not only taught them how to use the tool, but also educated real people. He enjoyed unquestioned authority among both students and teachers. People who graduated from school many years ago came to consult with him on a variety of issues. I really want to believe that there will be many such Masters at school due to the long-awaited change of education leadership.