Khasavyurt-96 as the apotheosis of betrayal of Russia

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[moskowit]

True. Bitter truth! The blood of the dead and mutilated soldiers and citizens, the bitter tears of their mothers lie on Yeltsin and his entourage. Yeltsin and Grachev the devil has already cleaned up, the time will come and the rest!

[Mahmut]

You can lose a war if you send your soldiers to enemy territory without setting them a specific and clear goal and objective. This was the case in Afghanistan, this was the case in Chechnya. Go in that direction: if they kill you, we'll bury you; if you shoot a civilian, we'll jail you or hand you over to the enemy to be torn apart. For two years, they either fought, or negotiated, or sold their soldiers to the Chechens, or bought them back. As a result, the conflict between the federal authorities and the criminals grew into a purely interethnic format, a mass guerrilla movement with no prospect of ending.
You can lose the war, if not only foreign, but also Russian media together with human rights defenders will spit in the backs of their soldiers if staff rats transmit military maps and home addresses of the best snipers to the enemy.
You can lose the war if warrant officers, they are chests, they will also steal pieces from their army and sell MANPADS to the enemy.
You can lose the war when the military commissariats do not call into their ranks not only majors, but also the most physically strong guys who went to work in gangs. Or when entire republics such as Tatarstan refuse to replenish the army with conscripts.
And they made Swan extreme. He broke off the bloody spectacle with our media. In vain spent on popcorn.

[karabas-barabas]

You can lose the war when the military commissariats do not call into their ranks not only majors, but also the most physically strong guys who went to work in gangs. Or when entire republics such as Tatarstan refuse to replenish the army with conscripts.

So they did the right thing in Tatarstan, there is nothing for any conscripts in the war to do! A soldier must be sent to the war no sooner than after 2 years of service and various preparations, otherwise it is a crime against him and his family! The exception is when the country is under the threat of occupation and the question is about the survival of the nation, as during the Second World War.

[Victor jnnjdfy]

When the Army (as well as the people of the Country) does not understand in the name of what (and whom) it is fighting in Chechnya, then there is no need to count tanks, planes and the number of personnel. The people of the country, in their mass, were against that war. In such conditions it had to be ended.
The fact that it was finished just for the sake of finishing it speaks of the extremely low level of the military-political leadership of Russia at that time. Remember the same Berezovsky (at one time - deputy secretary of the Russian Security Council). What was that? And what about the "tsar" Boris the drunkard himself, what do you think? Lebed was striving for power and was going straight to this goal... but Chubais and company dismissed him. Panopticon. And how can you fight with such leadership?

[Flat5160]

Yeltsin and his entourage are to blame for this shame of Russia. He did not set centers, but in textbooks write about a traitor to the interests of the country as a warning to posterity.

[kepmor]

Nice man! Duck, we are "ignoramuses", and so for 16 years we have only been talking about it ...
And your suggestions, even very fair, need to be directed to our "next tsar", who still "bows with his forehead" to his benefactor-drunkard, palaces of marble and granite are at war in his honor!
There is one thing I cannot understand: how can you so vilely disregard the opinion of tens of millions of your fellow citizens in order to build this fucking Eltsin Center, a monument to Judas, a murderer and a traitor?

[Andrey Gladkikh]

That's right. And I am absolutely not satisfied with the explanations of Yeltsin's defenders, who say that he is the first president of Russia, that you can't erase him from history, and therefore we must remember and honor him. These people either forget or deliberately pretend not to understand that the history of Russia did not begin in 1991, that Tsarist, Soviet and current Russia are just forms of existence of one and the same state - Russia. And Yeltsin is by no means the first person to lead Russia. And it doesn't matter what his name was: Tsar, Emperor, General (First) Secretary or President. And if they have already erected a monumental center to a leader who does not deserve it, then they need to "exhibit" the whole truth about Yeltsin's time in charge in this center. I understand that Putin is keeping his word to Yeltsin that while he is "in power", there will be no persecution of the "family" or denigration of Yeltsin himself at the state level. I would like to believe that when Putin hands over power to his successor, the aforementioned center will simply become a truthful museum about Yeltsin’s time in power.

[Nix1986]

You won’t throw words out of a song, briefly and succinctly, while those who survive the 90th Borya cannot survive, they are alive.

[at76]

Unfortunately or not, but we are eternal. And soon someone whitewash, and someone whitewash. It is necessary, no one will be interested.

[Iline]

A year and a half, the Russian army was shed blood on the streets of Grozny and in the mountains, huge amounts of money were spent every month to continue the war, and it turned out that all this ... in vain?

Not in vain. Dudayev himself could appear only as a continuation of the policy of that time. Someone had to urgently plunder the country on the sly. And only a sluggish incomprehensible war can arrange a suitable noise. Yeltsin, Berezovsky? I'm not sure if these are just small bipods on the surface, working "for a small fraction." Why, after this war, was not an assessment of the activities of the then leadership given by name? Would there be too many surnames that are unusual for hearing? Whom did Dudayev call before his destruction in Moscow? The questions remained unanswered.
And the fact that then they tried to trample our army into the mud is a fact. The most combat-ready units were disbanded, there were constant articles in the press like "the feds started ....", etc. And only a cry from the heart of Kostikov from AMF about the topic "guys, who will you yourself?" acted somehow sobering. With the Khasavyurt agreement, we were simply betrayed at the moment when victory was already on the horizon. And this was done under the plausible pretext of humanity and the preservation of the lives of our soldiers. And this is after so many sacrifices.
It’s disgusting to recall the whole period. And after all this, they are trying to instill in me love for EBN. Guys, I'm already an adult boy and I have a head on my shoulders. And this head is not just to have it.

[BARKAS]

The most combat-ready units disbanded

Everything was like that and instead of them new ones were formed, newly arrived soldiers in such units were simply recorded on the staff one by one without asking about their specialty and skills, after which the brigade or regiment was sent to Chechnya. In our division, of all the radio operators, I was the only one who had such a specialty: a platoon commander, also a communications chief, a two-year student after an agricultural institute, in general a smart officer, but the first day of acquaintance began with the fact that I had to teach him how to turn on and set up a radio station.

[Dimy4]

I remember the episode that happened to happen on TV probably where a young soldier is trying to deal with Kalash, at first he couldn’t insert a store, then he moved it with the fire translator back and forth. In general, the impression was that he had never been allowed to shoot before being sent to the database area.

[Alexander Romanov]

Dimy4
Not a fact, there was sea dirt, the machine could just be clogged.

[karabas-barabas]

In fact, I can send you a couple of hours of video, around February, the city is almost cleared. The soldiers themselves, young guys tell everything and how they fought and everything. No training, nothing. They just messed around for a couple of months in their units, no shooting, nothing, and then went to training, literally understood where they were when the Ural tarpaulin was opened and they were immediately driven to positions. The Chechens, I don’t know if all of them, of course not all unfortunately, but still, when they saw a pyzhik-ushanka in the sight, they turned the sight away, but there was no mercy for those in headscarves or black knitted hats, they were usually considered contract soldiers or volunteers. Of course, there were also some well-trained conscripts, but when you look at the footage of that war... guys who may not have even kissed a girl, who came up with the idea of ​​sending them to war. In my opinion, conscripts were the same victims as the civilian population, because they were not only driven to their positions, they were sold by their own officers, so that later they could share with the militants the ransom due by the state and whatever they could squeeze out of their parents.

[slavin]

What kind of passion are you telling, I was the first conscript, not only did you have to go through the selection and the family should be complete, plus by itself desire, we had it, BB

[michell]

Who did Dudaev call before his destruction in Moscow? Questions remained unanswered.

At the time of the launch of the rocket with SU-25, Dudaev spoke with Konstantin Borov. That's what the question is much more interesting ...

[kib72]

I am a simple soldier, or rather a junior sergeant of the Airborne Forces. I live in the region where Lebed was the governor. I believe that A.I. Lebed was the only one who showed courage (from the country's leadership and politicians), taking responsibility for concluding this peace. As a result, we received combat-ready troops and a population of the Chechen Republic with whom it was possible to negotiate. If there had not been this pause, we would have received the Caucasus of the 19th century.
The words "shed blood in vain for a year and a half" could turn into "30 years shed blood in vain

[astronom1973n]

I remember well this time of the reign of the E.B.A.And the entrance and assault on the city on the night was remembered for the rest of my life. And I also remembered after returning that the faces of the people in the city where our compound was stationed. It was not before the war and deaths, to survive and to feed families - that’s the most important thing during the period of absolute collapse and reduction and non-payment at enterprises. So I can’t remember a good word ebna. And I don’t accept his name center.

[Evil543]

We did not lose, we lost politicians., Businessmen won.

And the people ... The people shied away from us as from lepers.

[Evil543]

And who remembers kits for defenders of the fatherland from EBN for the elections in 96? Most valuable cigarettes and tea "vigor"

[Irbenwolf]

Unfortunately, after all the chaos created by Gorbachev and Yeltsin during the collapse of the USSR, when conflicts flared up on the periphery, which, in the wake of “perestroika-democracy,” they did not even try to resolve by force, the war in Chechnya was necessary for young Russia.

If it hadn't happened, there would have been no reason to think that there are no fraternal nations (in the Soviet understanding of the issue) now. Now there are borders and everyone is for themselves. And the Russian "tit" must be protected for what it "earned". By the way, some "fraternal nations" still don't understand this.

How this war was waged and how the lives of boys were sold "by weight" is another question. But they deserved a monument much more than the "guarantor".

Tell me, people in the know, is there a (real - solid) monument to these guys in Russia? Maybe it's time to put one up?

[V.ic]

To whom is the war, and to whom is the mother dear ... I cut the finances under the guise of financing, bringing the army to a level below the baseboard. In the cemeteries of the region where my city is located, the number of deaths in Chechnya and Dagestan from 1994 to 2001 is about twice the number of deaths in Afghanistan over the same time.

[erased]

The heirs and associates of Yeltsinoid, as well as his followers, are still at the helm of power. So, we can expect a repeat of the Chechen surrender, but already on other battlefields. No matter how good the army is, no matter how selflessly the soldiers fight, if power strikes in the back, then it turns out to be fatal.
This must be known very well.
And by the way, who initiated the opening of the Yeltsin Center? ..

[Castor]

Quote: from article

starting in 1992, weapons went to Chechnya ... And it was clear to absolutely everyone — both in Moscow and Grozny — that if Ichkeria fights with anyone, it’s not with Georgia or Azerbaijan, but with Russia.

It was with Georgia that Ichkeria fought in 1992-1993. on the territory of Abkhazia, and on its own initiative, breaking the Yeltsin-Shevardnadze "agreement". The article, alas, does not contain the whole truth, and "not the whole truth", as you know, is the best lie.

[karabas-barabas]

And even before that, in 1991, the Chechens under the command of Basayev, then in the rank of major, some obscure Cossacks and Abkhazians fought with Georgia in Abkhazia. That is, the nightmares had already begun. Who intersekno look for materials on the war in Abkhazia.

[MATROSKIN-53]

Read the book by A. Lebed "It's a shame for the state!" And a lot will become clear to you. By signing this treaty, the general saved the army and soldiers from unnecessary sacrifices to please the mediocre command and the puppet government. Is it a shame ?!

[karabas-barabas]

And those who scatter accusations towards Lebed hardly understand this. What morally, the war was lost, as it was fought against everyone, including the civilian population. The Islamists took advantage of this later, and the murder of Dudaev was a mistake, the combat, the Soviet general of the USSR Air Force, who, like the strategists, crushed the Taliban, married to the Russian, was not an enemy of the Russian people and was a bone in the throat of the Islamists. It would be better if they agreed with him, and not with Kadyrov, since he certainly would not have made a wedding with hundreds of Royls-Royces cabrios for budget money, he does not have others.

[Boris55]

Quote: MATROSKIN-53

Read the book by A. Lebed "It's a shame for the state!"

It is a shame for his power !? And his statement that for him there is no land beyond the Urals - how to understand?

The signing of the Khasavyurt agreements gave a start to the collapse of Russia!

[kib72]

That is, now Russia has collapsed?

[Sergey777]

It could have collapsed, but we were lucky to replace EBNu came another Man. But that's another story.

[kib72]

When the cry "There is no land for us beyond the Volga." How shoud I understand this?

[midivan]

[/quote] And how should we understand his statement that for him there is no land beyond the Urals? [quote]

something like this - there is nowhere to retreat from your land, then the threat like Chechnya for Russia was not the most terrible

[captain]

I liked the article in general, but there are a number of inaccuracies. The author writes that we were left with 1.8 million people from the Soviet Union army, a huge amount of weapons... I don't remember which of the greats said this phrase: "... only that which is firmly established is where the foot of an infantryman has stepped...". So, we practically did not have any deployed (for those who did not serve, these are units and formations staffed at least 70%) and trained motorized rifle formations and units. Yes, we had a huge number of cadre and reduced composition units, where there were mainly officers, soldiers had to be called up from the reserve. And given that in peacetime we had military builders, military railroad workers, military road builders, civil defense troops and other troops in the reserve, then it is not worth talking about a trained reserve. I fought in Afghanistan and remember well how officers from reduced-staff units came and at first simply did not know how to organize a battle and what to do with the personnel. Everything was given in blood. The system of building the USSR Armed Forces in the post-war period (41-45) turned out to be ineffective. We followed the path of the main thing being the headquarters, and women give birth to soldiers. The author is right about Yeltsin and his entourage, but it was worth remembering the "merits" of General Secretary Gorbachev, Politburo member Shevardnadze, Yakovlev, who was responsible for ideology, and other leaders of the CPSU. And I basically agree with the author's article.

[Dimy4]

He worked just at that time as an electrician in the housing and communal services and went by type of work and by objects and apartments. And everywhere, with anyone talking about this topic, there was a huge misunderstanding of how the bandits could, I'm sorry, to bend a state like Russia. The answer, as it turned out, was very simple - then the main bandits were sitting in the Kremlin.

[Baloo]

in Khasavyurt, the most shameful treaty in the recent history of Russia was signed

I will only briefly recall the details:
Berezovsky to Lebed: "... what business have you ruined!" For birch, it was a business - earning capital by "ransom" of prisoners and much more, which is still silent.
Dudayev to journalists: "... tell EBN that I read his documents before he signs them." Who is this traitor and what deserved punishment did he suffer, or was he quietly pushed aside first "for CIS affairs", then even further? And the punishment?
Akhmat Kadyrov, on a talk show with Solovyov, a month before his death, angrily accused the Kremlin of supporting the massacre in Chechnya. From the audience began to shout: "... name the names!". When Kadyrov began to say something angrily, the sound was removed and an advertisement went. A month later he was gone. Whose business was Chechnya?
The nephew of the late Sheikh Ahmad Shah Massoud, in a Russian documentary film, when asked by a journalist who helped the mujahideen on the Soviet side: the leaders of the union republics, in Moscow Shevardnadze, in Afghanistan the deputy of the air base in Bagram Dudayev, named a number of other names.
One of the versions is why Dudaev became president of Chechnya: some lumps from the Central Committee and the KGB established the traffic of weapons and drugs from Afghanistan through Tashkent-Moscow-Chechnya by planes around the world. When the Chechen side got rid of two intermediate links, the first Chechen side began. Is this ISIS, Libya, Syria does not remind you?
The article is timely. Here are just the actions, where the actions are deserved.

[cedar]

This is not a shame, but a tragedy that the Anglo-Saxons have arranged for us, through its agents, into which I hope Lebed did not enter ...
"..." Over the past ten years, the policy towards the USSR and its allies has convincingly proved the correctness of the course we have taken to eliminate one of the strongest powers in the world, as well as the strongest military bloc. Using the mistakes of Soviet diplomacy, the extreme arrogance of Gorbachev and his entourage, including and those who openly took a pro-American position, we have achieved what President Truman was going to do with the Soviet Union by means of an atomic bomb, though with one significant difference we got a raw materials appendage, a state not destroyed by an atom that would not be easy to create. Yes, we spent many billions of dollars on this, but they are already close to what the Russians call self-sufficiency. For four years, we and our allies received various strategic raw materials worth $ 15 billion, hundreds of tons of gold, precious stones, etc. During the years of the so-called perestroika in the USSR, many of our military and businessmen did not believe in the success of the upcoming operation, and in vain. Having shaken the ideological foundations of the USSR, we were able to bloodlessly withdraw from the war for world domination the state that is the main competitor to America ... If we solve these problems, then in the next decade we will have to solve the following problems: dismemberment of Russia into small states through interregional wars such as those organized in Yugoslavia; the final collapse of the military-industrial complex of Russia and the army; the establishment of regimes in the republics detached from Russia that we need. Yes, we allowed Russia to be a power, but only one country will be an empire - the USA ”(October 25, 1995).
BILL CLINTON, 42nd President of the United States (1993-2001) "

The Khasavyurt treaty provided for the EXIT of Chechnya from Russia, for which a three-year term was given. Literally two months before the implementation of this release, and in fact, Russia has collapsed according to the Yugoslav variant into various digestible, independent trifles, to the delight of the Clintons, Soros and other Liebermen and Liebermans, there appeared ... Putin, whom Yeltsin "immediately and very much" wanted hand over your chair and ... the second Chechen war began for Chechnya, For Russia, for you and me, for the fact that we would live in our native country. For some reason, the author missed this very important moment, and this moment is the phenomenon of Putin in a fateful historical moment for Russia.
Since then, Putin, in the face of ever-increasing opposition from the trap, has been pulling us out of the swamp of soft, sucking occupation, which many do not notice. But the plans voiced by Clinton have not changed. Clinton will soon steer the United States again with Clintonih, and this means a pack of bankers will tear Russia to pieces with renewed vigor. But ... Russia has Putin.
Who else doesn’t like Vladimir Vladimirovich ..?

[Palch]

Yes, what else are there Anglo-Saxons, stop the game bear !!! Alas, these are our native compatriots united in several clans, led not by a foreign underground, but by their own selfish interests. And, alas, their interests began to appear far from the 90s, but much earlier. Unfortunately, for the most part their plans were a success. And we have what we have. And the Anglo-Saxons, by the way watching from the side of what was happening, quietly went nuts and simply did not believe their happiness!

[Palch]

The desire of our party nomenklatura was very simple, to live unlike the rest of the population was no longer interesting and relevant, they wanted to own and rule, well, just like your Anglo-Saxons. It was necessary to simply fragment and divide everything. And war was the most important thing in this process. And EBN was just like Petrushka. Wherever they pull, there he will turn. And Bereza was a really smart guy. In those days, he was the first to build gray and other schemes for this whole gang. And he was not the only one so smart. And how many of them are left lying around, about whom we will never even know. In order to tear apart the Country in 10 years, a whole system of interconnected and not very different clans, groups, families is required. We know about some, but not about others. And the redistribution, as it was, is constantly going on.

[igorka357]

Yes, yes, that's exactly why the "granny" in London hanged herself, right? And he could have lived and lived longer, but apparently he wasn't as smart as you sentenced him to, "Abrasha" is in chocolate, he was probably smarter than the "granny" and "Khodor"!

[guzik007]

So, in the morning, into the little healed holes with your finger ...
Together we curse Alkash, amicably FOR Neshnoy, only here is the shackle-sanctified temple of the bastard Himself in Sverdlovsk ... And nicho, we all love our homeland, and support the course. Somehow everything was curled up in a ball - you will not unwind, you will break your brain. Chess, they are ... not everyone is given.

[igorka357]

Yes, the Eltsin is not even worthy of such a close discussion! To forget, and to erase from memory as something plague for the country, and the Eltsin would be undermined!

[gorgo]

In general, I was shocked when I saw the opening of this Center, and even the participation in this of the first persons of the state. You know, I even started to wonder if everything is so simple in the Danish kingdom? ...

[pilot8878]

I do not like the article, and a normal person cannot like the mention of the betrayal and humiliation of his Motherland. But the site does not mention "For" or "Against", there is only "Like" ...
But in essence the article: not monuments to Yeltsin should be erected, but to recognize that his camarilla was engaged in the genocide of the population, the mass destruction of the army. And for involvement in his ideas and other "universal values" to condemn by a military tribunal, so that 25 years of hard labor would seem a mild sentence.
Karabakh, Chechnya, Ossetia, Tajikistan, Yugoslavia - an incomplete list of places where we lost the guys, and all of them, in fact, betrayed by the liberals who were seated in the government. There is still the opportunity to ask them personally, until they die calmly in their beds.

[kush62]

pilot8878 Today, 15:06 New
I do not like the article, and a normal person cannot like the mention of the betrayal and humiliation of his Motherland. But the site does not mention "For" or "Against", there is only "Like" ...

Great reminiscent of ballot papers. Against it is impossible, either for or be silent.

[igoryok1984]

Quote: "... Not the wars of Hannibal, Belisarius, Napoleon, Moltke or Suvorov, but the military and managerial "talents" of Tsar Boris, which led to the shame of Khasavyurt, unprecedented in world history..." One does not interfere with the other. The example of Hannibal is very indicative: how a person, being one step away from victory over Rome (Hannibal ante portas - "Hannibal at the gates"), can lose everything when the ruling elite "dumps" him, without providing assistance. For Carthage as a whole, it ended very badly.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Iline

The Khasavyurt treaty simply betrayed us at a time when victory was already on the horizon.

Excuse me, what does the word Victory mean? Kill all those who disagree, restore order?
So in the end we won or lost? Yes, maybe now they don’t shoot in Chechnya every day, but by whose laws does she live and how much money goes there? So, roughly compare how much they paid in 1992 and now

[Pilat2009]

Quote: guzik007

the bastard consecrated by Himself in Sverdlovsk

As for Himself ... Here, like Medvedev sanctified. Everything else is on the case. However, some legacy of the EBN is still ongoing, in particular, the financial rate.
By the way, the dissenters doused the statue of a drunkard with ink. And the statue itself embodies the principle "I drank in the morning, the whole day is free."
Now there is round-the-clock security and cameras.
In general, nothing will improve for the better until a patriot comes to power. But the government does not like patriots, pushes them under any pretext

[Pilat2009]

Quote: cedar

Who else doesn’t like Vladimir Vladimirovich ..?

With all due respect to you and Vladimir Vladimirovich, Gorbachev and Yeltsin also started for their health, and the actor Kryuchkov, like from the rostrum of the Congress of People's Deputies, foaming at his mouth, broadcast that "horses do not change at the crossing."
Putin has fulfilled his role in saving Russia, now we need to move on, otherwise our own officials and oligarchs will eat us up. The Finance Minister quite calmly declares that in a year he will have nothing to pay the salaries of state employees. We need a minister who can only spend money from stocks and earn can not?

[Sergey777]

The people of the campaign must create a national museum, as an alternative to the EBN museum. In which it will be said about figures like Gorbachev, Yeltsin, well, and all sorts of others like them.
What would the next generations remember and know the "heroes".

[Boris55]

Quote: kib72

When the cry "There is no land for us beyond the Volga." How shoud I understand this?

Not beyond the Volga, but beyond the Urals. For Swan, who was sitting there and imagining himself already the lord of the Siberian Republic, there was no land beyond the Urals. He cut off a piece of himself from Russia, and laid it on the rest big and thick ... These words were uttered by him on TV throughout the country - he heard personally.
I tried to find a video of this meeting on YouTube - it’s not, but it used to be, it’s a pity I didn’t drop it into the archive ...

[karabas-barabas]

Slavyn,
SlavynBut you can't speak for everyone, can you? And read carefully what I wrote, they were not badly prepared physically and in another way. But you must admit that even after half a year of good preparation, young men of 18-20 years old do not become full-fledged fighters, since you cannot meet this time. I have both relatives and friends, and on both sides there were and everything happened there. But you are talking about passion and selection .., and I can fill you up with just an archive of photos and videos where you will see frightened, dirty, rosy-cheeked boys, a lot of them. Yes, there is a 2-hour walking video from February, 2 months after the start of the assault, on a yu-tube. There, the guys say everything, the whole point, without fear of anything, as it is. I can drop the link. I cannot even write such words that could describe all the injustice and cruelty towards them and their mothers. And I don’t need to talk about "boys should become men", yes, they should, but not on the wrong war in their country! Not this way! They should erect a monument, they still became men, posthumously.

Chechnya, formidable after the assault. just listen, it should just be interesting to you.

[AUL]

The main thing is to place traitors, embezzlers, pests and scoundrels with criminal inclinations at key government posts. And they will very quickly show how it can be 25 hours in a day, and August will replace January.

Khasavyurt is our national disgrace, which began in 1994 and continues to this day, despite the change of leadership. But the shame is not the people who survived this war. Shame is not the soldiers who laid their heads because of the mediocrity and betrayal of command. This is the shame of the leadership of the country, the shame of the corrupt elite who enriched themselves in this war!

[tiaman.76]

Yeltsin Grachev and Berezovsky needed to be shot instead of monuments ... eh Putin Putin .. there wasn’t enough political will .. but the swan .. he later admitted his mistake and God himself judged him

[Massimo]

Boriska is being roasted in hell, he ruined so many guys, the bastard, he doesn't have a monument, but a cesspool, a self-taught alcoholic. The 81st Samara Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment got it hard then, Eternal memory to the guys, to them, the Maikop Brigade, and to all the guys who bore their cross. All the creatures who made money on the blood of our guys will sooner or later meet the fate of the "Judas" BAB!

[UrraletZ]

Quote: kib72

I am a simple soldier, or rather a junior sergeant of the Airborne Forces. I live in the region where Lebed was the governor. I believe that A.I. Lebed was the only one who showed courage (from the country's leadership and politicians), taking responsibility for concluding this peace. As a result, we received combat-ready troops and a population of the Chechen Republic with whom it was possible to negotiate. If there had not been this pause, we would have received the Caucasus of the 19th century.
The words "shed blood in vain for a year and a half" could turn into "30 years shed blood in vain

Traitor, he is garbage. Traded Honor for the grandmother ...

[Mwg]

Three times I rewrote the comment, except for non-normative nothing happens.
We must all remember this war and tell the children about it. When earning by any means is the goal of management, when "business" is "driving" uncontrollably, the citizens of this country die in the slaughter.
Thank God, Russia was ill with this and, God forbid, never return to this.
But Ukraine I wish you a quick recovery.

[VB]

In general, commentators, you remember who is the successor to Yeltsin, and he is still in power. NOTHING will change until these are swept away. The rest is in favor of the poor.

[VB]

Reading most of the comments - no urine, makes you feel sick. Why are you blaming the alcoholic Yeltsin? This is what Russia's intelligentsia imposed on it from the word "cart". This is constantly claimed to be the ultimate truth in Russia, knowing full well that they will not have to answer for their words or die on the battlefield. A soldier who has taken an oath is obliged to fulfill it. The principle of one-man command in the army has not been canceled and will never be canceled. This is the first time I hear that there was no conscription from Tatarstan to Chechnya. The army is obliged to defend the Motherland and destroy enemies. Officers receive a salary for the entire period of service in order to defend their Motherland at the right moment and, if necessary, give their lives. I personally was raised this way, and not only me. A hereditary officer.

[VB]

[quote=VB]Reading most of the comments - no urine, makes you want to vomit. Why are you blaming the alcoholic Yeltsin? This is what Russia's intelligentsia imposed on it from the word cart. This is constantly claiming to be the ultimate truth in Russia, knowing full well that they will not have to answer for their words or die on the battlefield. A soldier who has taken the oath is obliged to fulfill it. The principle of one-man command in the army has not been canceled and will never be canceled. This is the first time I hear that there was no call-up from Tatarstan to Chechnya. The army is obliged to defend the Motherland and destroy enemies. Officers receive a salary for the entire period of service in order to defend their Motherland at the right moment and, if necessary, give their lives. I personally was raised this way, and not only me. A hereditary officer.

[certero]

I don’t know where the author was in those days. Maybe I went to kindergarten? :) Otherwise, he could have remembered that from the entire Russian army they could hardly have recruited a hundred thousandth group of troops for war. That no one wanted to fight. That society as a whole considered the war wrong and unrighteous.
As for the agreement itself, it was post factum. After the aforementioned assault on Grozny by militants, which for some reason succeeded. How could such an operation be successful given the overwhelming superiority of the Russian Army?

Quote: Mahmut

You can lose the war if sending your soldiers to the territory of the enemy does not set a specific and understandable goal and task for them. So it was in Afghanistan, so it was in Chechnya. To go in that direction, if they kill - we will bury, shoot in a civilian - we will plant or surrender to the enemy. For two years, they either fought, or agreed, or sold their soldiers to Chechens, or bought them back.

Yes, that’s all. So it was, alas.

[DHA]

no need to blur the eyes of the first Chechen one, Russia still pays indemnity, and the winners throughout "mother" are doing lawlessness

[kib72]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: kib72

When the cry "There is no land for us beyond the Volga." How shoud I understand this?

Not beyond the Volga, but beyond the Urals. For Swan, who was sitting there and imagining himself already the lord of the Siberian Republic, there was no land beyond the Urals. He cut off a piece of himself from Russia, and laid it on the rest big and thick ... These words were uttered by him on TV throughout the country - he heard personally.
I tried to find a video of this meeting on YouTube - it’s not, but it used to be, it’s a pity I didn’t drop it into the archive ...

Regarding the Siberian Republic, you got carried away. Under Lebed, all the profitable campaigns of our region returned from the hands of local oligarchs to Muscovites. What kind of Republic is it without production, i.e. without money?

[Alexey-74]

Everything is correct, but the author went too far. In military terms, it is difficult to call it a war (Chechnya is a subject of the Russian Federation, i.e. part of the Russian people), the Kremlin elite communicated with the elite of Ichkeria with all their might... illiterately set tasks for personnel, without having an end goal, inadequate use of forces and means, all this led to a dead end... the Russian army has always been able to fight, even in critical times, but this was not a war in its classical sense.... in theory, Ichkeria could have simply been razed to the ground from the air, but these are our citizens and so on and so forth...

[murriou]

Quote: pilot8878

a normal person cannot like the mention of the betrayal and humiliation of his homeland

There is little pleasant in this, of course.
But remembering such things is necessary. At least not to repeat.
And the medicine is sometimes bitter. This is only scary for small children.
Therefore, the article is necessary and useful.