Khasavyurt agreement: betrayal or forced measure? 20 years of issues

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Khasavyurt agreement: betrayal or forced measure? 20 years of issues20 is over the years since the conclusion of the Khasavyurt Agreement. The same one whose conclusion was perceived by many soldiers and officers as a betrayal of the dead and the interests of the country. Agreement, which then caused a barrage of applause from the liberals, and today stubbornly all successfully forgotten. It seems there was nothing. The agreement that deprived our army of a well-deserved victory in 1996 ...

Many people remember the beginning of the Chechen conflict. No, not 1994. Much earlier. This is about 1991. When the country is "mutilo" from a brain break. When the people divided into those who rushed into "civilized Europe", those who stood up for the USSR and those who suddenly remembered their ethnicity.



Remember Moscow August 1991? When did "all the people" stand up for freedom? All the people quietly fit in the territories around the White House, part of Tver and part of the Garden Ring. I myself then fit there. Right on the steps of the main staircase from the embankment.

It was then that a general appeared in Chechnya aviation Dudaev. An outstanding personality for the republic is Major General. It was then that Dudaev “deposed” the legitimate government of Doku Zavgaev. Remember the fall events of that year? How did Dudaev actively “squeeze out” the Russian population from Chechnya?

Yeltsin tried to “reason” “President Dudayev” in his style. Let's give Chechnya a special status! Only a mad dog does not need a special status. She is mad because she is not responsible for her actions. And even then the Chechen elite understood all the advantages of "independence."

As a result, December 9 1994, Yeltsin signs a decree "On measures to curb the activities of illegal armed groups on the territory of the Chechen Republic and in the zone of the Ossetian-Ingush conflict." And on December 11, the first military units entered Chechnya.

The collapse of the country, the disruption in the economy, the demolition of moral values, the elimination of the foundations of the army structure could not but affect the combat capability of the army. And not only combat units. Then "broke" everything. Including intelligence (as a pillar of the communist regime). In the end, 1995 year was tragic for our army. The army did not know the real combat potential of the militants! Many people remember the terrible film of Alexander Nevzorov about the capture of Grozny. And how many such plots were then. How much treachery and frank "plum" units and parts ...

I remember the "television confrontation" and the opposition in other media. Society is actively "shared." They divided into those who are ready to continue to send soldiers to the Chechen mountains and those who offered to leave Chechnya alone. How many mothers of dead soldiers were then shown on TV. How many prisoners. How many scary frames are not laid out on the Internet.

And then there's the 1996 election campaign of the year. The one where we "voted with the heart." The results of this campaign still do not give rest to many political scientists and analysts. Yeltsin "won" then with a minimum margin of Zyuganov. Although many of the then elite say that Zyuganov was simply afraid of victory. But this is not the main thing. The main thing is that the third in the list of winners was the little-known General Lebed.

Today, probably, we can say that it was Swan, who gave “his” voices to Yeltsin, determined the victory of the EBN. But such a charity was adequately paid. And Lebed became secretary of the Security Council! I still do not know how to relate to Cygnus. The people loved him. People grieved when he died. The figure for me is very ambiguous, with all due respect for the merits of General Lebed.

And then, on the personal initiative of A. Lebed, full-scale negotiations began with the new leadership of Chechnya in the person of Yandarbiyev and Maskhadov. Because, thanks to the brilliant operation of our intelligence officers, in the spring of 1996, Dudayev was eliminated.

The agreement signed by Lebed and Berezovsky in fact meant the admission of the defeat of the Russian army in the war with the bandits. It was a spit in the face of the soldiers, officers and generals of our armed forces. Especially since by that time they had learned to fight. And they beat the militants seriously.

How they reacted to the agreement, perfectly illustrated by an excerpt from the memoirs of General Troshev (2001 g):

“You are a general, you can count anything,” the metropolitan visitor (Berezovsky) flashed his eyes. “Your task is to remain silent, listen and fulfill what Lebed and I are saying. Understand?”

Why was this agreement necessary? To save the Russians in Chechnya? In order to "calm" the Chechen gangsters? So in 5 years (by agreement) to give independence to Chechnya?

Not much time has passed since then. Most witnesses are alive today. And the results of the agreement are also not forgotten. Russian soldiers remained in captivity. Many died at the hands of bandits. Russian families were not only persecuted, but also directly destroyed. They laughed at Russia. Laughing at the Russian army.

Weak beat! The weak are not respected! Over the weak mock! General Lebed did not become an "Eagle" general. And subsequent events proved the old truth. With the bandits can not negotiate. They will observe the contract only in one case - when they are held by the contract for a causal place. As long as you hold, they will keep their word. Let go of ...

That is what happened in 1999 ... But for this, the bandits had to blow up houses in Moscow, Buynaksk, Volgodonsk ... For this, many victims were “taken”. The victims are not among the soldiers and officers. Just among peaceful people. I was right after the explosion at the site of the 9 storey on Kashira highway ... I saw it with my own eyes. And he heard the explosion. He lived a kilometer from the ill-fated home. And I saw corpses ... Believe me, I had to see a lot in my life and collide with many things, but the victims of terrorist acts are something special. As victims of disasters. After this, you can immediately send to the most terrible place on the front. Immediately. And the soldier will go without thinking.

September 23 went "otvetka" from our army. Began massive bombing of Grozny and the surrounding area. And September 30 began the second Chechen ... 10 years of deaths, victories and failures, heroism and betrayal. 10 years of war. The counter-terrorist operation ended only 16 on April 2009 of the year.

Many of the participants in those events today again in the political elite. We see many on TV screens. Many even occupy serious positions. But no one suffered the punishment. For various reasons, participants in the events mentioned in this article are “sent by fate to another world”. The rest are shyly silent. But rethinking events is necessary.

Today it is fashionable to talk about "Islam" introduced from outside. About action movies that were not even Chechens. About the attack on Russia of some terrible force of world importance.

Or maybe it's worth a closer look? Maybe we should talk about those who urged to respect the "choice of the Chechen people" in our capitals? What choice can there be when the Chechen villages were captured by bandits? When a sufficiently closed society suddenly realized that it was impossible to hope for legitimate authority. And the best friend of the family (tape) was the machine gun. A better - a few.

It’s good that there was a leader among the Chechens - Akhmat Kadyrov. There was a person who understood the essence of the "fighters for the independence of Ichkeria". I understood and paid for it with my life. It was he who took on the role of a unifier of the Chechen people. Probably someone will grin. Kadyrov himself seems to be also from field commanders ... Yes, one of them. And his son too. Only what would he be the head of the clan (teip), if he was afraid and frightened?

I repeat, Chechnya is a mountainous country. And the mountaineers have always lived, and even now they live, in a fairly closed society. Much of what is already forgotten for us story, there is still relevant today. And it is difficult to understand. The actions of the gangsters and our traitors, especially in Khasavyurt, largely rejected Chechen society many decades ago. The departure of the Russians brought down industry and culture. Yes, and in many ways the moral climate in the republic.

Today, young people are being "driven" to study in Russia. By hook or by crook. It's necessary. They will return and become competent engineers, teachers, doctors. They will be the builders of their republic. Not residents, but builders.

So what is the Khasavyurt Agreement? For the author, this is the humiliation of Russia, spitting on all servicemen, especially those who fought honestly and could then still win, the betrayal of those Chechens who supported Moscow in this war, the betrayal of the Russians in Chechnya. A series of betrayals that continues today.

Continues in calls to stop resisting the "democratic peace." Continues in rewriting our history. Continues in calls to "understand and forgive." How many traitors today emerged from obscurity. Recall the beginning of the 2000's. The coming to power of Putin.

They evaporated ... They disappeared and fell silent. And today, once again "fighting the regime", "bringing to the clear water" of our athletes, "revealing the militaristic essence of" modern Russia. Daily!

"Khasavyurt Russia" continues to live. And it will be difficult to eradicate it. For the time being, those who are allowed to "spoil" Russia and the Russians in the media, on television, in the European "commissions" feel calm and are not responsible for their words. The betrayal of Khasavyurt will continue.

And it is here that the principle that we have deduced for ourselves in that Odessa May should work: we will not forget, we will not forgive.
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  1. +23
    2 September 2016 07: 38
    Well, yes, yes ... Humiliation and betrayal ...
    But now young people are "driven" to study in Russia. By hook or by crook. It's necessary. They will come back and become competent engineers, teachers, doctors. They will become the builders of their republic. Not residents, but builders. However, knowing many "persons of Caucasian nationality", not only who moved to Moscow and St. Petersburg, but - born there! - I can say: the national mentality is indestructible !!! Because there is a cult of exclusivity and superiority in it: at least in something - height, weight, language, songs, dances, clothes, a beard ... or its fundamental absence ... a turban, a robe ... Allah or Christ ...
    Because we are not looking in the right direction and are not extolling it - as virtues! For example: most earnest Muslims do not really understand the Koran, have not read ... But the wisest book, regardless of religion, like the Bible - the Book of Life! Textbook of goodness, tolerance and mercy; and - vital and worldly resilience, intransigence to the enemy, criminal, rapist and murderer ... Looks like a Bible written by a born mathematician ...
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    ... however, that's not what I'm talking about ... It's just that nobody really works with the "national question", we go out on a clean conjuncture ... That's why - the Caucasus, Chechnya, Khasavyurt, the Baltic States, Central Asia and Ukraine with Belarus !
    ... and the clumsy and failed attempts at "tolerance", "multipolarity", "liberality" and everything else that comes with it! in the style of the now unforgettable and cursed Kovalev ... With Chechnya we are trying to solve the issue with money - to give them more, they will shut up, "will become good"! and this is when the "freebies" Ukraine and the Baltic states, who have passed this very path, are before our eyes! The first is an outspoken and notorious enemy, the second is a "tolerant" and "liberal" enemy ...
    ... no, not that national policy in Russia! not that ...
    1. +4
      2 September 2016 10: 02
      What victory can there be in a war with one’s at least deceived people ?! Before harnessing the cart in front of the horse, you should start with the one who unleashed the Chechen war and to whom it was profitable from our corrupt liberals in the Government. Or why the Grozny airport all this time remained the gateway for Moscow to smuggle valuables from Russia.
    2. +1
      2 September 2016 10: 43
      What kind of nationally-oriented policy at that time can we talk about if everyone was in control of Berezovsky? Only this already says a lot
    3. +6
      2 September 2016 11: 22
      The whole trouble is that we stopped reading RUSSIAN fairy tales to children (ALL PEOPLES OF RUSSIA). In Russia, always not only read fairy tales, but also deeply revealed their essence. The beginning of a new Russia, a new life, happened with a literary decline.
  2. +4
    2 September 2016 07: 42
    Many of the participants in those events today are again in the political elite. We see many on television screens. Many even serious posts hold.

    If the war is on, then it is beneficial to someone ....

    Think about who at that time made himself billions of dollars, who "privatized" strategic enterprises, who "earned" political "bonuses" ....
    1. WKS
      0
      2 September 2016 10: 38
      "If the war is going on, then it is profitable for someone .... dima-fesko"

      Not certainly in that way. When there is a war, there will always be a proxy who will earn on it.
    2. BAI
      0
      2 September 2016 13: 02
      Why guess something. Berezovsky immediately said after the end of hostilities: What kind of business has been thwarted.
  3. +6
    2 September 2016 08: 19
    The Khasavyurt agreement launched the collapse of Russia. The Siberian Republic already loomed on the horizon with the famous saying of Lebed: "For us beyond the Urals there is no land." The Ural francs were printed in full, laws were adopted in the republics affirming the supremacy of local laws over national ones ... etc. Yes, and Putin was put in order to blame the young on the responsibility for the collapse of Russia - they did not guess, they still rage ...
    So for me the question of what it was was not worth it. It was a betrayal!
    1. +2
      2 September 2016 13: 45
      Yes Yes. And Rossel with his slogans there too.
    2. +1
      2 September 2016 20: 12
      There is another opinion. Khasavyurt was a wiring for Chechnya and was counting on a banal throw before the deadline for its execution. As you know, time heals, the pain smoothes.
  4. +5
    2 September 2016 09: 13
    Each has its own truth. Then the militants themselves said that they then had two days left. Could have finished them, I don’t know. They would again give a corridor for them. Money makes war.
  5. +3
    2 September 2016 09: 15
    The author’s point of view is expressed whether one can agree with her or not, this is everyone’s business. But I believe that a military victory would cost us much more. Until the authorities of the militants tried in Chechnya, the majority there did not intend to live as part of Russia. When the heads of the teips did not conclude that Dudaev and his team would lead the country in the Middle Ages, the war did not stop. There would be a guerrilla war to date, and I think more bloody.
  6. +3
    2 September 2016 09: 18
    Alexander, I think that the title of the article is WRONG. What a question? This is a DIRECT betrayal of the country's interests, a betrayal of those who fought in the Caucasus, a betrayal of the memory of those killed, a betrayal of ancestors who fought in the 19th century in those places. You are right, as a result of this betrayal there were blown up houses, Nord-Ost, Beslan. The betrayal of the dead, who were kidnapped from Stavropol during the de facto independent "Ichkeria", their relatives and friends. About the deceased, either good or nothing - for Baba it is clear, he went to hell during his lifetime. And for Lebed - after Khasavyurt he is not an OFFICER, not a PARCELER. This is the least that can be said for him.
  7. +3
    2 September 2016 10: 40
    Yes, I remember this conspiracy, I treated Lebed with great respect before, but after when he voted for Alcoholic Yeltsin and began to negotiate with Maskhadov this, the fact is that at that time all this trash could be finished in 1996, I worked at that time in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and was on business trips and I know firsthand that in these jackals they needed a respite, because they were firmly pressed in Grozny at that time and when there was no real chance to put an end to it, but what they got, the blown up houses, Nord- dost, Beslan, hundreds of abducted, the campaign of these dogs in Dagestan, and all this for the sake of the secretary’s warm place, the deceased simply wanted to play politics, he was intoxicated with popular admiration. Conclusion-general should do his job and not flattery politics, he should DESTROY THIS SCRAM AT THE ROOT, and thereby save thousands of lives.
    1. +1
      2 September 2016 16: 20
      And I still remember his words with bestial aplomb: "A POOR COUNTRY CANNOT WAGE WAR." I want to spit it out, ugh.
  8. +4
    2 September 2016 10: 55
    How significant is the role of the individual in history!
    A normal volitional general (or politician) would be found - and he would throw Berezovsky and Lebed out of there and finish off all these gangsters (or let them finish) to the end.
    And no one would do anything to him, they would even award him.
    And there is no need to talk about military discipline and betrayal - when Grachev in 91 did not actually comply with the military order to storm the White House - did anyone touch him? After that he became Minister of Defense.
    Khasavyurt is Russia's dirtiest political treaty after 91 years.
    When the militants pushed into a corner rushed to our "liberal" politicians with a cry for help, and those who crossed the corpses of our military and civilians (by the way, not only Russians) saved the bandits with their hands to the elbow in blood from the deserved punishment.
    I heard this story about the roar of "metropolitan visitors" about General Pulikovsky. During the storming of Grozny, he replaced the group commander Tikhomirov. And the main claim to them.
    But Lebed, despite all his merits (Afghanistan, Transnistria), a limited Soviet warehouse general and a primitive populist politician with a narrow outlook.
    Yeltsin used it like ...., and then poked it at the same .... nose (sorry for the non-parliamentary expressions).
    And if Berezovsky immediately from the perestroika was written on his face who he is and what he is, then Lebed has definitely overshadowed his reputation with Khasavyurt.
    Also, our politicians should recall the “drain” of the HChR (Avturkhanov) after the storming of Grozny on October 14, 1994, there we must say “thanks” to Khasbulatov.
  9. +3
    2 September 2016 11: 40
    Maybe it's worth talking about those who called for respect for the "choice of the Chechen people" in our capitals?[Quote] [/ quote]
    By the way, they called for respect for the choice of the Chechen people, now they say stop feeding the Chechen people ..
  10. +2
    2 September 2016 11: 50
    One respectful of the "choice of the Chechen people" was recently slapped on the bridge by the Chechens themselves. The signatory of the Khasavyurt case died strangely (the helicopter helped), etc. I think many more "respectable" will follow these paths.
  11. 0
    2 September 2016 12: 21
    Fully agree with siberalt .
    What could be a victory in a civil war? Just some kind of nonsense ... Victory can be over a stranger, a foreigner who came to attack from outside. But what victory can be if people living in a water country are fighting? If this war is over, it means victory, and for all.
    Chechnya is exactly the same part of my homeland as Chuvashia or Yakutia, like the Moscow region or the same Kaliningrad.
    Actually, what started in Chechnya is not the fault of only one Chechen people, it is the fault of the drunk Yeltsin with his crazy team, and of course, tagged, let him be empty. If he had not been any drunk, there would have been no trace of him.
    I may be old and somehow divorced from reality, but I still think: Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Moldavians, Kyrgyz and other Belarusians as their relatives.
    Well, damn it, I can’t detach myself from the thought that in fact it’s all our people, albeit by force torn apart by scoundrels by politicians.
    And of course, I perceive any war between any of our peoples precisely as a civil war in my country. A war in which there can be no winner.
    And it turns to me that once we all will come together again, 15 native countries to each other in one big and friendly family.
    Tell me what is fiction? Hmm, .. time will tell, no one believed in the collapse of my country, it seems to me that in this world there is nothing that cannot exist.
    I would also return to the bosom of the mother of Russia and Finland, if it were my will ...
    1. +2
      2 September 2016 15: 00
      This is not necessary, otherwise the Petersburgers will have nowhere to go to eat
  12. +10
    2 September 2016 12: 23
    The Khasavyurt agreement is a spit in the direction of your people (you can call me a fascist, but the Russians are the core nation of Russia), it is a spit in the direction of the army. In general, both companies and their anticipated events are a great bitterness and sadness for any Russian person. But that’s the worst thing. What changed? How are those events different from today's realities? The same trampling of Russians by Caucasian savages. The same slurred, limp position in the Caucasus.
    It is probably unnecessarily emotional and chaotic, but nonetheless.
    1. 0
      2 September 2016 16: 37
      Don't you think that you have said a little about becoming the Criminal Code "Inciting ethnic hatred"? These "savages", law enforcement officers "savages" are now being killed by bandits while you sleep and drink peacefully.
    2. 0
      2 September 2016 16: 39
      You have spoken about the article of the Criminal Code "Inciting ethnic hatred". Employees of the organs from among these "savages" die while you sleep and drink peacefully.
  13. +2
    2 September 2016 12: 26
    YES ... what a victory. We got divorced - we got divorced. But the fact that the army was framed is a fact. Once the meat grinder has begun - it was necessary to squeeze. And do not play politics. What Swan was doing. Mutil with Bereza cheto fell into ambition, and those Judas are happy to heat and use. So I signed it.

    So that was a betrayal. Some have the simplicity of others by calculation. There was a point.
  14. +2
    2 September 2016 12: 32
    Quote: otto meer
    The Khasavyurt agreement is a spit in the direction of your people (you can call me a fascist, but the Russians are the core nation of Russia), it is a spit in the direction of the army. In general, both companies and their anticipated events are a great bitterness and sadness for any Russian person. But that’s the worst thing. What changed? How are those events different from today's realities? The same trampling of Russians by Caucasian savages. The same slurred, limp position in the Caucasus.
    It is probably unnecessarily emotional and chaotic, but nonetheless.


    The fact that the Russians are the titular nation, no one argues. Russian country ridge. However, Chechnya, part of Russia is exactly the same as the Kursk region, therefore the war with the inhabitants of Chechnya what if it is not a war with their own people?
    And whom do you call savages? Chechens are the same citizens of Russia as you are. It is clear that there are a lot of cattle in the Caucasus, but where is it not? Waiting, I would even say oskotinivanie - this is unfortunately the scourge of our consumer society. Why be surprised if the green American pieces of paper are now the icons. All that is happening now is alas the result of a general decline in morality and the absence of real values ​​:)
    There are enough cattle both in the Caucasus, and in Voronezh or in Syzran. Why, if a Caucasian cattle bydlyak, this is fu, and a fellow citizen, it seems like normal.
    In short, you are wrong :)
    1. +7
      3 September 2016 05: 32
      Chechnya will never be the same part of Russia as the Kursk region, you are our tolerant.
  15. +1
    2 September 2016 12: 41
    Quote: Boris55
    The Siberian Republic already loomed on the horizon with the famous saying of Lebed: "For us there is no land beyond the Urals." The Ural francs were printed in full, laws were adopted in the republics affirming the supremacy of local laws over national ones ...
    So for me the question of what it was was not worth it. It was a betrayal!

    In Siberia and in the Urals, it’s not Swan - there Rossel mutilated ...
  16. +1
    2 September 2016 12: 48
    Quote: captain
    Until the authorities of the militants tried in Chechnya, the majority there did not intend to live as part of Russia. When the heads of the teips did not conclude that Dudaev and his team would lead the country in the Middle Ages, the war did not stop. There would be a guerrilla war to date, and I think more bloody.

    The population and territory of Chechnya is the same as in our area (well, a little more people)! Simply - they didn’t let them fight for real, and that’s it! This is where it was - betrayal ...
    No one in Chechnya was really going to "separate" from Russia - the elders of the teips said so: to rob forever, to drag slaves and slaves from Russia forever ... and to trade there legally and openly agricultural products taken from Georgians, Abkhazians and Ossetians ... Their land in Chechnya is not very fertile ... And Chechens are not very fond of working "on the land" ...
  17. +3
    2 September 2016 12: 56
    Quote: GAndr
    The Chechen part of Russia is exactly the same as the Kursk region, therefore, a war with the inhabitants of Chechnya, what is this if not a war with its own people?
    And whom do you call savages? Chechens are the same citizens of Russia as you are. It is clear that there are a lot of cattle in the Caucasus, but where is it not?

    I had a chance to talk somehow - on the train it was - with a "Moscow Chechen" - born, studied (higher technical ...) and living in Moscow. So he told me that a Chechen should not work! No shovels, wrenches, hammers, etc. - no no! And what should a Chechen have in his hands? Aha, a rifle and a dagger! And - it's harder than a spoon not to lift anything ...
    So it was a native Muscovite by birth!
    ... the national mentality? ... That's where he got it? "citizen of Russia", of course!
    1. +1
      3 September 2016 16: 02
      Where? At home! Have relatives in the kitchens.
  18. 0
    2 September 2016 13: 01
    Quote: Tambov Wolf
    One respectful of the "choice of the Chechen people" was recently slapped on the bridge by the Chechens themselves. The signatory of the Khasavyurt case died strangely (the helicopter helped), etc. I think many more "respectable" will follow these paths.

    ... Yes, there are many deaths! And although death should beware of talking badly, and even more so joking about this ... But! Someone died, someone died ... and someone died! ...
    Everyone chose and prepared their own end ...
  19. 0
    2 September 2016 13: 34
    That's right! Well done author!
  20. +1
    2 September 2016 13: 48
    General Alexander Lebed, an ambiguous personality, like many politicians and the military of those years. He started as a military general, put out the war in Transnistria, then information comes, they say he was selling arms, he created mafia power. About Khasavyurt: first, the heroic general saved the lives of thousands of soldiers, after this, the traitor, he sold everything to the State Department and the birch. Enemy of Russia. Governor Lebed - no sensible information - what he was doing, good or bad, butted with Bykov. and that’s it. Then a strange death, as with many in those days. In about a hundred years, the truth MAYBE and pops up, and now only conflicting opinions.
    1. 0
      2 September 2016 14: 51
      Yes. There were many strange deaths in those days. Rokhlin, Troshev ...
  21. 0
    2 September 2016 16: 55
    Quote: CONTROL
    Quote: GAndr
    The Chechen part of Russia is exactly the same as the Kursk region, therefore, a war with the inhabitants of Chechnya, what is this if not a war with its own people?
    And whom do you call savages? Chechens are the same citizens of Russia as you are. It is clear that there are a lot of cattle in the Caucasus, but where is it not?

    I had a chance to talk somehow - on the train it was - with a "Moscow Chechen" - born, studied (higher technical ...) and living in Moscow. So he told me that a Chechen should not work! No shovels, wrenches, hammers, etc. - no no! And what should a Chechen have in his hands? Aha, a rifle and a dagger! And - it's harder than a spoon not to lift anything ...
    So it was a native Muscovite by birth!
    ... the national mentality? ... That's where he got it? "citizen of Russia", of course!

    So what do you offer? And tell me a little blockhead of a different nationality? Here the whole question is in education. So this particular young man was wrongly educated. On the other hand, who is stopping us from using this mood of his? Want to be a war ahead! So the road to his army. Being determines consciousness. The Chechens are also very good wars, this should be used in the interests of the motherland. Something like this.
    1. 0
      3 September 2016 02: 36
      that's yes. on 08.08.08 they showed themselves well, but again "they want to fight, let them fight" they seem to be suitable warriors, although the range of application is not so wide. I will explain too much they want to become heroes from here, the conclusion at the moment is to provide them as you said either Syria or the Donbas can be something to your liking as tactical and sabotage groups, I know, I have seen them in action at home. But in the Donbass, tired of the Ukrov cyborgs, they are unlikely to find mutual understanding among the Malorossian brothers because of ambitions such as the warrior toto and toto, in general, there will be a spark of conflict with the local villagers. on our side. AND NOW ATTENTION QUESTION: how are you going to provide them with occupation to their liking? And most importantly, at what point of our interests if we are not conducting active ground operations?
      1. 0
        5 September 2016 10: 58
        Our Motherland, glory to God, is gradually getting off its knees.
        Great Russia is returning.
        And the minus of greatness is that we will be forced to put out more and more hot spots around the world. Therefore, we need a lot of good and skilled fighters. So the guys from Chechnya will not remain without work.
        In the situation that has developed, not individual nationalities are to blame, but incompetent managers. That is, those who do not know how to direct the skill and mentality of a particular nationality or nationality in the right direction. As a result, we have what we have.
        But if you look at how much dignity the Chechens have? Yes, they do not know how and do not want revenge there, but they are wonderful athletes, good wars, why not realize their virtues? All the nonsense in my head is taken from idleness, borrow a person with what he likes and he will no longer be engaged in garbage.
        And those that fingers bend in Moscow or where else, they are not wars, but the most ordinary bandits. Exactly the same as bandits like bandits of any other nationalities. It does not matter Chechens, Buryats or Russians.
        Anyone who harms my country, my people is an enemy. And no matter what this enemy of nationality is. I am in favor of eliminating all enemies as hard as possible.
  22. 0
    3 September 2016 13: 37
    "After this, you can immediately send to the most terrible place at the front. Immediately. And the soldier will go without hesitation." so I think about the nonrandomness of those explosions ...
  23. +4
    3 September 2016 16: 14
    Quote: GAndr
    However, Chechnya, part of Russia is exactly the same as the Kursk region, therefore the war with the inhabitants of Chechnya what if it is not a war with their own people?

    I just can’t imagine that the Kurds would enslave the Russians, blow up houses in Moscow and Stalingrad, and also cut the heads of our soldiers and strip their skin!
    Personally, I don’t understand the Chechens, and I'm afraid! It is not in vain that the Chechen in Moscow feels much better than the Russian in Chechnya.
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      5 September 2016 10: 40
      There are enough freaks in Chechnya and Moscow :)) And I’m sure that in Moscow there are an order of magnitude more freaks than in Chechnya.
      For example, I am a terrible Nazi and imperialist, to be honest.
      And yes, I believe that the best nation on Earth is the Great Russian nation. A nation composed of many nations and nationalities. In fact, Russian nationality is the titular nation, which unites many other nationalities. Russian is the skeleton on which to hold others, I note no less important nationalities. You say, how can an organism live without a skeleton? And without kidneys, but without liver, etc. All nationalities that are part of our Great Motherland are equally needed and important.

      Ok, here's an example for you:
      Given:
      1. Tajik - a janitor, sweeping the streets, removes dirt, cleans the yard, removes ice from the tracks. In general, how can he create and do with his labor what no one else wants to do. He is a visitor, but really wants to be Russian and wants his children to attend a Russian school.
      2. A native Muscovite doesn’t do a damn thing, he thumps, throws garbage out of windows, lives on the fact that he rents a room in his apartment to a Tajik janitor. And I didn’t buy the apartment myself, but I inherited it from the deceased grandmother. Russian nationality.

      The question is which of these two is more Russian, not by nationality but rightfully so called, a Tajik who benefits my country, while feeding a Muscovite renting a house or a Muscovite who doesn’t do a damn thing and is completely useless for my country’s day, and if still and take into account that he litter, it also harms my country with his existence.

      So, I don’t know about you, but personally I think this janitor is much more Russian than this Muscovite loafer.
  24. +7
    3 September 2016 16: 27
    And remember:
    If, the way is broken with his father’s sword,
    You are wound with salty tears,
    If in a hot fight I experienced that how much, -
    So, you read the necessary books as a child!

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