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Polish "elite" itself doomed the country to a military-political catastrophe

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Polish "elite" itself doomed the country to a military-political catastrophe

1 September 1939, Germany attacked Poland. 3 September England and France declared war on the Third Reich. In Europe, the Second World War began. Although, for example, for China, a big war began in the 1937 year, when Japan attacked the Middle Kingdom.


The Second World War involved in its orbit 1,7 billion people, fighting was conducted in the territories of Asia, Europe, Africa, in the vast Atlantic, Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans. The war lasted a total of 6 years. The 61 state was drawn into it. More than 110 million people were called into the ranks of the armed forces of various countries, even more people served the rear, and in one way or another were involved in the war. In the armed struggle involved huge masses of modern technology and weapons - hundreds of thousands of aircraft, tanks, ships, guns and mortars. The war claimed tens of millions of lives and destroyed vast masses of cultural and material values. World War II became the most destructive of all the wars that it knows story.

The Munich Agreement, which, in fact, destroyed the sovereignty of Czechoslovakia, according to the plans of London and Paris, was to direct the Reich aggression to the East, against the USSR. Chamberlain believed that he would be able to incite Hitler, who was a famous anti-Soviet, against the USSR. In this way, the policy of the great Western powers was aimed at unleashing a big war, and the main contradictions of the capitalist world were planned to be resolved by plundering the territory of the Soviet (Russian) civilization, as well as peripheral countriesand the new redistribution of Asia.

Poland in these plans was to become either an ally of Hitler in the "crusade" to the East (it was hoped for in Warsaw) or fall and strengthen the military-economic and demographic potential of the "Eternal Reich" - the "European Union" led by Hitler Germany.

The Polish "elite" hoped to take part in the war with the USSR in alliance with Germany (all its main military plans were based on the conflict with the USSR-Russia). "Polish hyena" took part in the section of Czechoslovakia, after living at its expense. In the East, mining should have been much larger. The Polish elite still raved about plans for “Greater Poland from sea to sea (from the Baltic to the Black Sea). After the collapse of the Russian Empire, Western Russian lands (Western Ukraine and Western Belorussia) were few to the Poles. Warsaw was ruined by greed. The Polish elite did not want to make some concessions to Berlin, such as a transport corridor to East Prussia (after World War I, the territory of Germany was divided by Polish territory). The Poles did not want to become a "junior partner" of the Reich. They were ruined by arrogance and pride. Moreover, when the inevitability of war with Germany had already become apparent, they proudly refused the military assistance offered by the Union. For example, on April 18, 1939, a counselor at the Polish embassy in London, told T. Kordt, Chargé d’affaires of Germany in England, that Poland, along with Romania, “constantly refuse to accept any offer of Soviet Russia for assistance. Germany can be confident that Poland will never allow any soldier of Soviet Russia to enter its territory, whether they are soldiers of the ground forces or air forces. ” In Warsaw, they believed in the strength of their large army and did not admit that their strong army, with which they were preparing to oppose the USSR on an equal footing, would be defeated as soon as possible. In addition, in Warsaw, they believed in the help of "partners".

Already in the autumn of 1938, Berlin caused the Danzig crisis. In order to put pressure on Poland, an unbridled anti-Polish information campaign was launched under the slogan "Danzig must be German." 24 November 1938, the German military and political leadership developed a plan to capture Danzig. In March, 1939, Berlin again demanded that Warsaw pass Danzig to Germany. In the same month, Republican Spain fell, German troops occupied the whole of Czechoslovakia and captured Klaipeda (Memel).

It became obvious that Hitler was not behaving as he had expected in Paris and London. He turned out to be a more rational figure than they had thought and at first, before going to the East, he decided to put Europe under control. 31 March London declared that it "guarantees" the independence of Poland and then extended this commitment to Greece, Romania and Turkey. A similar statement was made by Paris. True, as history has shown, the real owners of France and Britain were not going to fight for Poland. On the one hand, the British and French assured Poland and other states in Europe that they would be of assistance in the event of German aggression, on the other hand they conducted secret negotiations with Berlin to conclude agreements that were anti-Soviet and violated the independence of third countries.

It is not surprising that Hitler, who was strategically far-sighted than his generals, who were terribly afraid of conflicting with the leading countries of the West, knowing the weakness of the Reich military machine and writing plans for eliminating the Führer one after another, considered the "guarantees" of England and France as a political bluff, an empty threat. So it happened. The masters of the West eventually surrendered not only Czechoslovakia and Poland to Hitler, but even France!

Therefore, Hitler ordered to speed up military preparations for the attack on Poland. On April 3, 1939, the chief of staff of the Supreme Command of the Wehrmacht (OKW), Keitel, was sent by the commander of the ground forces, air force and naval fleet A preliminary version of the plan of war with Poland, code-named "Weiss" ("White Plan"). They were ordered to study it and submit on May 1, 1939 their views on the use of the armed forces in the war with Poland. The deadline for the attack on Poland was also indicated - September 1, 1939. On April 28, Berlin terminated the Polish-German non-aggression pact and the Anglo-German maritime agreement.

Under these conditions, Moscow proposed that Britain and France create an anti-German alliance and expose powerful forces to curb German aggression. The Red Army troops should have had the opportunity to pass through the territories of Poland and Romania in order to render them real assistance, since the USSR did not have a direct border with Germany. However, Poland opposed this, still hoping that Germany was attacking the USSR bypassing Polish territory and Warsaw under these conditions would be able to get certain benefits from its position. Warsaw openly declared that it would not accept military assistance from the USSR. Thus, the Polish "elite" itself doomed the country to a military-political catastrophe.

It is clear that in the prevailing military-political conditions, when Britain and France did not want to join forces with the USSR to stop the aggressor, and clearly wanted to set Hitler against the Union, and Poland refused to accept Soviet aid, Moscow decided to gain time to prepare for war, improve its military-strategic position on the western frontiers and went to the pact with Berlin. Hitler, so as not to be between the two fires, gladly concluded this agreement.

By 11 on April, 1939 of the OKV was developed and approved by Hitler's “Directive on the uniform training of the Armed Forces for the war on 1939-1940.” The main part of the directive is the plan of war with Poland. The White Plan was based on the idea of ​​a “blitzkrieg”. The implementation of this plan was supposed to be carried out by sudden coordinated strikes of all branches of the armed forces. The ground forces were supposed to surround and destroy the main forces of the Polish army with rapid, deep strikes. The decisive role in achieving this goal was assigned to armored forces and the Air Force. A concentric strike from the south and south-west - from Moravia, Silesia and north-west and north - from Pomerania, East Prussia was supposed to defeat the main forces of the Polish army west of the Vistula and Narev rivers. The German fleet from the sea supported the army’s operations by blocking bases and destroying the Polish Navy.

As early as April 1939, the Supreme Command of the Wehrmacht, the headquarters of the ground, air force and naval forces began to develop operational plans. Were created "working staffs" - the future headquarters of the army groups "South" and "North". In Berlin, they understood that the defeat of Poland was only a step in the struggle for world domination, and not the decisive goal of Germany. 23 May 1939 at a military meeting, Hitler said: “Danzig is not the object for which everything is being done. For us it is about expanding the living space in the East and providing food, as well as solving the Baltic problem. ” The captured Polish territory was to become the main strategic base for striking the Soviet Union, the conquest of which was crucial for the creation of the Eternal Reich. The goal was to destroy the Soviet state and the Soviet project, to vastly expand at the expense of the Russian land of the German “living space” and create a base for the creation of the world German empire, as the dominant force on the planet.

The Polish people were planning to enslave the country's economic resources to put in the service of the Third Reich. Also, the war with Poland was a preparatory stage in the struggle for leadership in Europe with France and England. France, as the "historical opponent" of the German people, was subject to defeat and enslavement. With the Anglo-Saxon elite, after the victory in Europe, Berlin hoped to “come to terms”.

On the threshold of the war with Poland, Germany improved its strategic military positions. The capture of Czechoslovakia and the Memel region by the Germans sharply worsened the strategic position of Poland. Its territory was clamped in ticks from the north and south. In addition, the seizure of Czechoslovakia greatly strengthened the military and economic potential of Germany. The Wehrmacht captured more Czech equipment and weapons. Germany has at its disposal the developed industry of Czechoslovakia, including the military-industrial complex. Poland’s southern border was threatened.

The main calculation of Hitler was in the passivity of England and France. And he was justified. Therefore, to cover the western border of Germany, they allocated only a minimum of forces and means. On the western border of the Reich, the entire 32 division, which was part of Army Group C, was deployed. Of these, only 12 divisions were fully equipped, and the rest were much inferior to them in combat capabilities. Armored formations on the western border of Germany were not, Army Group "C" supported 800 aircraft. Siegfried line was just built. That is, Germany did not have a strong defensive position in the West.

As a result, the German grouping in the West could be kept only in a positional war, and when there was no active combat activity. France, which had the strongest army in Western Europe, and England could easily defeat these troops and put Berlin on the brink of a military-political catastrophe and dictate any terms of a truce. Only France had 78 divisions on the eastern border, about 2 thousands of tanks and 3 thousands of aircraft, and in the first days of the war could seriously strengthen its grouping on the border with Germany. However, London and Paris preferred to give Poland to be torn apart by Hitler.

Thus, Poland, due to the erroneous policies, stupidity and arrogance of its “elite”, as well as the strategic course of the West’s masters, on the persecution of Germany and Russia was doomed to disgraceful military defeat, liquidation of statehood and years of occupation, genocide and plunder of Polish resources.


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  1. bionik
    bionik 1 September 2016 08: 08
    +3
    A radio station in the German city of Gleiwitz (now Gliwice, Poland) in 1939. Gleivitsky incident (Gleivitsa provocation) - an operation code-named "Canned food", carried out in the city of Gleivitz, as part of an even larger "operation Himmler", and which served as one of the reasons for the German attack on Poland on September 1, 1939, which began the Second World War .

    On the evening of August 31, 1939, by order of Hitler, a group of Nazi security service officers simulated the Poles seizing a German radio station in the small German city of Glevice, near the Polish border. After the "capture of the radio station", one of the participants in the provocation read out on the radio a false message in Polish that the Polish army crossed the German border and took possession of the German radio station. Having made several shots at the microphone, the provocateurs left the building of the radio station. The SD Service prepared thirteen German prisoners sentenced to death in advance. They were dressed in Polish military uniforms and brought into unconsciousness by the evening of August 31. After imitating the Polish takeover of a radio station, all these suicide bombers were shot near her building.
  2. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 1 September 2016 08: 10
    +5
    Is it the elite, a bunch of cowards and traitors! belay
  3. Hapfri
    Hapfri 1 September 2016 08: 26
    +2
    the policy of the great Western powers was aimed at unleashing a big war, and the main contradictions of the capitalist world were planned to be resolved by plundering the territory of the Soviet (Russian) civilization, as well as peripheral countries

    First of all, I would like to know from the author how to deal with US politics, which generally did not want to meddle in European affairs, Roosevelt hardly pushed through the lend-lease program, and second, how to deal with the theory and practice of the world revolution, when the USSR supported in the struggle, including armed, anyone who has committed to communist ideals
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 September 2016 12: 17
      +12
      And the USA got into European affairs not through politics, but through the economy. The revival of the Reich industry from an economic point of view is their merit. The same IG Farben rose at the expense of the money of the Morgan and Dupont. About "Opel" and reluctance to talk.

      And so, with a silent glanders, in the center of Europe there was an explosive mixture of a revived post-Versailles economy and revanchist politics. The United States provided funding, and the guarantor countries of the Versailles Accords carefully turned a blind eye to violations of the provisions of the treaty.
      Moreover, in some cases it seems that professional suicides were at the helm of the guarantors. One Anglo-German naval agreement is worth: all of WWII Britain suffered from a German submarine fleet, in 1918 the Germans were forbidden to have submarines in Versailles, and in 1935 they spit on the treaty and allow the Reich to have an underwater fleet equal to the British. And after all it is clear that the German submarines have no other purposes besides the shipping of the Island Empire. fool
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 1 September 2016 19: 13
        +1
        The same IG Farben rose at the expense of the money of the Morgan and Dupont. About "Opel" and reluctance to talk.


        England also gave billions of dollars in loans.
        guarantor countries The Versailles accords diligently turned a blind eye to violations of the provisions of the treaty.

        That is yes. And this happened because among the guarantor countries there was no Russia. But she was not there because the Brest shame was signed by the criminal minority, who seized power in Russia by force, in order to save their ugly power.

        therefore the Bolshevik putsch and the Brest shame they signed are the main causes of the Second World War.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 2 September 2016 12: 32
          +1
          And what would Russia do? Would cease payments on pre-war and military loans and loans? laughing

          If France had no real money in the budget for a military solution to the issue with Germany after the remilitarization of the Rhine region, then where can Russia rock the boat.

          As if Russia, against the background of the loss of Poland (with all its industry), post-war payments and the Great Depression, itself would not follow the path of revanchism - "The allies betrayed us and robbed us." The dream of the laikovs would come true - an alliance of Russia and the Reich. laughing
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 1 September 2016 13: 33
      +5
      Or such an example .. Having declared non-interference in the affairs of Spain, the United States supplied Franco with fuel and other materials ..
  4. Hapfri
    Hapfri 1 September 2016 08: 38
    +4
    In these conditions, Moscow proposed that England and France create an anti-German alliance and put forth powerful forces to curb German aggression. The Red Army troops should have been able to pass through the territories of Poland and Romania in order to provide them with real help, since the USSR did not have a direct border with Germany. However, Poland opposed this.

    All this was written in the Soviet school textbook for the tenth grade.
    I wonder if the USSR would have liberated the territories of Poland and Romania occupied for the period of assistance, or would there have been "democratic people's revolutions" in these countries, as was the case in 1946-49? Does the author know about the actions on the territory of Poland of the military sabotage groups of the Soviet intelligence, the Orlovsky detachment, for example, in the 20-30s?
    That is why she "resisted".
    1. avt
      avt 1 September 2016 08: 56
      +14
      Is the author aware of the actions on the territory of Poland of combat sabotage groups of Soviet intelligence, the Oryol detachment, for example, in the 20s and 30s?
      Is it known to the questioner about the "Promethean" movement carried out on the territory of the USSR by the second seemingly "Dvuika" department of the Polish General Staff? Well, which was especially activated after the defeat of the future Congenial Marshal Tukhachevsky and the conclusion of peace? I am not even talking about petty "pranks" such as raids by gangs of the same, for example, Bulak Bulakhovich, guarded by the same Polish defensive woman, the visit of Savinkov and Tchaikovsky personally to Pilsudsky.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 1 September 2016 09: 34
        +10
        Is it known to the questioner about the "Promethean" movement carried out on the territory of the USSR by the second seemingly "Dvuika" department of the Polish General Staff? Well, which was especially activated after the defeat of the future Congenial Marshal Tukhachevsky and the conclusion of peace? I am not even talking about petty "pranks" such as raids by gangs of the same, for example, Bulak Bulakhovich, guarded by the same Polish defensive woman, the visit of Savinkov and Tchaikovsky personally to Pilsudsky.

        All this is well described in Vaupshasov's book "At Troubled Crossroads". And look at the reports of the VChK-OGPU-NKVD Border Guard. Dear avt, I completely agree with you, and the actions of the Home Army actually helped Germany.
        1. avt
          avt 1 September 2016 09: 48
          +8
          and the actions of the Home Army actually helped Germany.
          And the lists of nationalists -Promoteevites generally went to the Nazis after the creation of the governor general on the site of Poland. By the way, some of the Natsik ex-Prometheans oooh worked very hard on the punitive in the territory of the governor general, so the Poles did not get sour from their fosterlings.
      2. Hapfri
        Hapfri 1 September 2016 09: 49
        +2
        Two-piece is Two-piece.
        We had an OGPU. It's about terror in Polish territory
        1. avt
          avt 1 September 2016 10: 32
          +11
          It's about terror in Polish territory
          What is this actually doing? An old saying - "Your shit does not smell"? Something about Bulak Bulakhovich was not heard from you, more and more about the intrigues of the USSR. The type of little sane fool Did Pilsudski distribute Tula gingerbread through the Savinkovites' gangs on the territory of the USSR? By the way, about the territories - to search and find the "Curzon line" by the victorious countries, Poland is reluctant to look for it? Well, the eastern part of it. So all the Lyakhams should stick their anus in the same way as with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the establishment of the USSR border in accordance with the "Curzon Line", and even with international recognition in Helsinki, about which everyone signed, including the USA and Canada, and with the "occupation" more carefully, when Stalin cut the German land for them, and part of the east of the Curzon line went to ... Otherwise, you can make God angry and dekomunizirovatsya-de-Stalinizirovanaya. Although this is the favorite pastime of the Poles - to fall under the division of territories since the times of "mother" Katya # 2 and other electors.
          1. Hapfri
            Hapfri 1 September 2016 11: 46
            +3
            Well, what have Bulak-Balakovich killed by the way in the battle with the Nazis.
            The USSR really fought against Poland, carried out subversive work, and suddenly said, and now we’ll be protecting you and introducing a million-strong army into your territory.
            In power in Poland there were people who still remembered the 20th year.
            This is not Poland’s troops, it was about to enter, but the USSR.
            1. Severomor
              Severomor 1 September 2016 12: 10
              +10
              Quote: Hupfri
              In power in Poland there were people who still remembered the 20th year.

              You mean it: In the spring of 1920, when the RSFSR was torn by a civil war, Poland entered the Ukraine and Belarus almost without a fight.
            2. avt
              avt 1 September 2016 12: 45
              +10
              Well, what have Bulak-Balakovich killed by the way in the battle with the Nazis.
              laughing Well, I’m talking
              What is this actually doing? An old saying - "Your shit doesn't smell"
              I remember about GePeU, but I don’t remember here.
              In power in Poland there were people who still remembered the 20th year.
              Which part of it? So from what moment after the collapse of the Empire and the formation on its fragments of the RSFSR and independent Poland? Who specifically jumped out of Curzon’s line, taking advantage of the Grazhlansky war, invading Kiev by military force? Or is the Krasny Army like this, past the liberation of Kiev from the Polish invaders near Warsaw? Teleported, only Misha met at Minsk headquarters? laughing That's interesting - is it so simple from ignorance, or such a cute liar?
              The USSR really fought against Poland, carried out subversive work, and suddenly said, and now we’ll be protecting you and introducing a million-strong army into your territory.
              It means that the Poles did not carry out subversive work and the Promethean movement did not seem to exist. WHEN AND WHO offered to send the troops of the Red Army into Poland? Polyakov ASKED TO MISS the troops of the Red Army to provide assistance to Czechoslovakia BEFORE the Germans attacked Poland, in accordance with the agreement between Czechoslovakia and the USSR. They refused, moreover, together with the Germans, they tore a piece of territory, so they truly said then -Poland - the hyena of Europe. And AFTER the attack on Poland, it was about the creation of a COALITION with France, Britain to prevent the aggression of the Nazis. As they say - it would be an honor to be offered. Didn't want to? Well, here's a general governorship instead of a republic, and the same “bloody Stalin” and his “occupants” revived and enlarged the territory of Poland, but they just gave you the opportunity to speak Polish. I do not like ? Are you spitting? Well, read Pushkin - "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" to the end.
            3. parusnik
              parusnik 1 September 2016 13: 43
              +5
              Well, what have Bulak-Balakovich killed by the way in the battle with the Nazis.
              .. Fighting the Bolsheviks, Bulak-Balakhovich had to constantly cooperate with the Polish intelligence, rely on the help of the Poles. Once, in a conversation with the first Polish marshal, Savinkov called Bulak-Balakhovich a bandit. Pilsudski laughed at this and replied: "Yes, a bandit, but not only a bandit, but a man who is Russian today, tomorrow a Pole, the day after tomorrow a Belarusian, a day later - a Negro. We know about this ... But he does not have the ambition of gold-driven generals who dream revive the monarchy in Russia. He is at war with the Bolsheviks, so we support him. Let them be even blacks, but if they are fighting the Soviets, then they are our allies. "In 1936, Bulak-Balakhovich, as an observer of the Polish military mission, appeared in Spain near Franco, where he helped organize reconnaissance and sabotage in the rear of the Republicans. In 1938 he offered Polish intelligence to organize sabotage against Czechoslovakia. When the German army attacked Poland on September 1, 1939, Bulak-Balakhovich took part in the defense of Warsaw, tried to organize a partisan detachment to fight the German invaders. He was killed in Warsaw on May 10, 1940 by a German patrol.
            4. sdv68
              sdv68 1 September 2016 14: 27
              +6
              Quote: Hupfri
              Well, what have Bulak-Balakovich killed by the way in the battle with the Nazis.
              The USSR really fought against Poland, carried out subversive work, and suddenly said, and now we’ll be protecting you and introducing a million-strong army into your territory.
              But how do you personally imagine the participation of the Red Army in the war against Germany on the side of Poland, if you do not go all over Poland to the German troops.
              In power in Poland there were people who still remembered the 20th year.
              In fact, Poland attacked Soviet Russia back in 1919.
    2. tiaman.76
      tiaman.76 1 September 2016 11: 13
      +5
      Well, yes, she opposed, the Soviets were "scared" but only for their "fear" before the Soviets they paid dearly ... the grief of politics, the so-called "elite" of Poland hit the road to Britain, but the country and ordinary people washed themselves in blood. f hopfrey according to your supposed "people's revolution" more terrible than the German-Nazi occupation, the end result of which was supposed to be the complete extermination of the Polish people ????
    3. anatoliy73
      anatoliy73 2 September 2016 20: 03
      +2
      Yeah and the Teshin region from Czechoslovakia squeezed out the identity "for old memory" - to annoy the Fuhrer's Schaub?
  5. igordok
    igordok 1 September 2016 08: 48
    +10
    An interesting article "We read Polish newspapers in the first half of September 1939." at http://tsar-ivan.livejournal.com/8522.html

    Polish poster - "England is your handiwork!" Sometimes, someone guessed ...
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 1 September 2016 10: 46
      +5
      Rather, try to shift the blame from a sore head to a healthy one. The so-called "elite", rotten and cowardly through and through, have pounded their country and are trying to justify themselves. Well, it is not the people who own the printing house and the right to campaign.
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 1 September 2016 16: 07
      +4
      The poster accurately described the situation. The British and the French promised that the Poles would be helped to capture Germany and the Poles would lead a * crusade * to the East. The Poles, under the promise of the British * threw * Hitler, and suddenly in the face. Of course, the British immediately became guilty. But then the Poles divided into conditional * groups * .. The most courageous, and few, fought against the Germans, the rest faithfully served the Nazis, and when it became clear that the Germans were * kaput *, they at once became * anti-fascists * and began to shoot at the RED ARMY .
  6. yehat
    yehat 1 September 2016 09: 29
    +7
    Quote: Hupfri

    First of all, I would like to know from the author what to do with US politics, which generally did not want to meddle in European affairs, Roosevelt hardly pushed through the lend-lease program

    firstly, Roosevelt was an opponent of the policy of self-isolation, but destroyed it from the silence. And Pearl Harbor was his brainchild. Roosevelt wanted a sharp increase in US foreign policy.
    Do not underestimate this smiling man. He could easily sacrifice hundreds of people for his purposes. A special topic is how he dealt with his competitors.
    secondly, do you at least understand how great Roosevelt's influence was when you say that it was given to him "with difficulty"?
    thirdly, the land lease was not free. America at least did not lose anything.
    On the contrary, military orders are economic growth.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 1 September 2016 10: 46
      +2
      yehat "Lend Lease wasn’t free. America at least didn’t lose anything."

      I heard from a zombie hunter that in 2006 under the Lend-Lease of the Russian Federation they made an extreme payment.
    2. Hapfri
      Hapfri 1 September 2016 12: 09
      +1
      Roosevelt was an adversary, but the president isn’t deciding everything in the United States, there was a powerful lobby that considered that there was no need to go into European affairs.
      There are suggestions that Pearl Harbor was allowed to change public opinion.
      About Lend Lease, everything was already discussed. He was free. It is only necessary to pay for equipment not destroyed in battle and not returning.
      The USSR did not return a lot and therefore they presented him with an account.
      Towers were removed from Sherman tanks to make them "damaged" and they worked as tractors for a long time in Siberia
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 1 September 2016 12: 28
        +4
        Let's just say that the only serious difference between the isolationists and the hawks was that the isolationists were against US intervention in European affairs by open military force. Supporters of complete non-interference were even among the isolationists white crows. For a complete rejection of the intervention would lead to a reduction in military orders, which none of the politicians clearly wanted.

        Therefore, the supply of weapons to Europe was supported by both sides. And FDR did everything possible to make casus belli out of these supplies. If it were not for the crooked German submariners who missed the "Texas", then perhaps it would not have been necessary to provoke the Japanese so.
  7. baudolino
    baudolino 1 September 2016 10: 03
    +7
    Quote: igordok
    Polish poster - "England is your handiwork!" Sometimes, someone guessed ...

    - this is from the series: "What for us?"
  8. Basil50
    Basil50 1 September 2016 10: 03
    +6
    Myths about the beginning of WWII began * to be constructed * back in September 1939. During the attack on Gleivice, a bank and a jeweler were robbed, robbers fled to Poland * seeped * between Polish troops and gendarmes who stood on the border with Germany completely mobilized from the beginning of summer. In the German towns that left Poland as a result of the WWII, the Poles killed all Germans with their families. Therefore, the Polish rulers fled, afraid of Goebels' calls for revenge. The resistance of the Polish army besides bewilderment does not cause anything, it is amazing how every year * persistence * resistance only grows. All * resistance * of the Poles is practically nothing more than * oral creativity *. There were Poles who fought with the Nazis, but today they are * criticized * in Poland and there were very few of them. The Poles excelled after the war, when * expelled * Germans from restored Poland.
    Today the Poles regret the * resistance * to the Germans. It came to loud statements about the desire, together with the Nazis, to destroy RUSSIA.
  9. Aleksander
    Aleksander 1 September 2016 10: 30
    +1
    according to the plans of London and Paris, he had to direct the aggression of the Reich to the East, against the USSR. .. The owners of the West eventually handed over to Hitler not only Czechoslovakia and Poland, but even France!


    According to this logic, England and France were not supposed to declare war on Germany at all, however they declared!

    Why they didn’t fight normally, the Prime Minister of France in the Daladier Parliament expressed very well 2 September 1940 g (TWO DAYS there has been a war!):

    “The heroism of our soldiers can only be a feat protector, not conqueror... France rises only when it is convinced that need to fight for your life and for your independence».

    It is enough to add that during the 1-2 September (the Danzig coroidor, etc., has already been taken), Paris and London actively discussed the idea with Hitler ..... PEACE belay Hitler conference put forward by Mussolini.

    The British, and especially the French, simply did not want to fight and, most importantly, suffer losses and for this were ready to sacrifice EVERYTHING.
    1. chenia
      chenia 1 September 2016 11: 53
      +6
      That is why Stalin understood that it was not worth having such "allies". And before that, the Non-Aggression Act was signed.

      And the Poles generally thanks for their ambition, traditionally show off, got the full.

      But we did not have to fight both the Germans and the Poles at the same time (as the Anglo-Skunks conceived).
  10. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 1 September 2016 10: 33
    +5
    In World War I, the Anglo-Saxons did everything to send Germany to the East and to World War II too! Does anyone except grant-eaters believe in the friendship of Russia and Europe and America ??
  11. V.ic
    V.ic 1 September 2016 10: 53
    +6
    The comrades probably do not know that the gentlemen in all seriousness declared / at the household level / that Wojsko polskie took Berlin, and the Red Army only helped! That's ambition! It’s better zginęła. The air would be cleaner.
    1. avt
      avt 1 September 2016 11: 09
      +6
      Comrades probably do not know what the pans seriously stated / at the household level /,
      No. Not in everyday life, quite in SOVIET time in museums, arrows drew how Berlin was taken. And the current ones went further - they write that the Warsaw uprising was raised in order to stop Stalin. And this "bloody tyrant" .... refused to support him with the offensive of the Red Army and thereby gave the Nazis to suppress him wassat And like this, in such a sequence, and in their memory institute!
  12. Moore
    Moore 1 September 2016 10: 59
    +2
    Quote: Aleksander
    The British, and especially the French, simply did not want to fight and, most importantly, bear losses and were ready to sacrifice EVERYTHING for this.

    How does this contradict what the author wrote?
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 1 September 2016 20: 02
      +2
      How does this contradict what the author wrote?


      The difference is in accents: the West surrendered Poland not only because it wanted to send Hitler to the East, and even, basically, not at all. For Poland PERFECTLY arranged the West as a solid outpost against Russia. But when it came to the fact that for the sake of Poland it was necessary to bear losses and to fight, one's own shirt was closer to the body (although, in the end, this led to even greater victims of the same French).
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  14. bandabas
    bandabas 1 September 2016 11: 10
    +1
    In the 39th he was not yet "possessed", and even managed to outplay "Uncle Joe". And Comrade Stalin, too, did not crack buns. Such pies. The main thing is not to repeat it.
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 1 September 2016 11: 31
    +1
    Hitler with his to-greyhound, then-desami, then-provocations
    cheated in turn everyone in a row: in 1938 - Chamberlain,
    in 1939 - Poles, in 1941 - Stalin.
    So far, everyone is not tired of it. And the Fuhrer piled on the whole world
    and finished off.
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 1 September 2016 12: 17
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Hitler with his to-greyhound, then-desami, then-provocations
      cheated in turn everyone in a row: in 1938 - Chamberlain ....

      What a deceiver, well, straight all the legs folded and did not understand anything.

      Quote: Germany, which had 70 million people, "frightened" the British Empire with a war, in which every fourth person in the world lived, which had 532 million people together with the metropolis, and the French colonial empire, which had 109 million people. It frightened them so much that these empires refused to help 170 million people from the Soviet Union.
    2. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 2 September 2016 15: 45
      +2
      "piled on the whole world!" especially Poland and France piled on! laughing
  16. alpamys
    alpamys 1 September 2016 11: 42
    +4
    Already in the autumn of 1938, Berlin caused a Danzig crisis. In order to put pressure on Poland, an unbridled anti-Polish information campaign was launched under the slogan "Danzig must be German." On November 24, 1938, the German military-political leadership developed a plan to capture Danzig.

    and that no one writes that the Poles killed Germans in Danzig in thousands (the city was 90% inhabited by the Germans) trying to expel them from the city in this way, so Hitler demanded the so-called Dagzig corridor, but the Poles rendered him this, continuing to spread rot in the city is a German population.
    IMHO .... Hitler did everything with Poland CORRECTLY, deserved it.
  17. Alexey T. (Oper)
    Alexey T. (Oper) 1 September 2016 12: 51
    +2
    The author writes that already in the spring of 1939 Hitler had a very specific opinion about the fate of Poland, which was to be occupied, assimilated, etc. It would seem that from the point of view of modern knowledge, everything was as intended. But there is one caveat.

    The document, which in modern history appears as a secret additional protocol to the Non-Aggression Treaty between the USSR and Germany, provides for the option of preserving, albeit greatly truncated, but sovereign Poland. This follows directly from the second paragraph of paragraph 2 of the document.

    I fully admit that this decision was imposed on Hitler at the negotiations in Moscow and the author is not mistaken regarding his initial plans.

    But in this case, the role of the Polish elite in the defeat and occupation of Poland becomes even more dubious. After all, if they showed steadfastness and courage, then it was likely they could defend their sovereignty, albeit at the cost of territorial losses.
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 1 September 2016 13: 10
      +7
      You just read:
      Quote: Alexey T. (Opera)
      secret additional protocol to the non-aggression pact between the USSR and Germany


      "Secret" You just get a grasp))))
      Quote: If necessary, the document is simply “secret” by putting a stamp mark in the upper right corner: “Secret”, “Top Secret”. Years later, if the document ceases to be important, the word "secretly" is crossed out, and a stamp is placed next to it --- "declassified." This is done in Russia, and this has been done in the USSR. The secret treaties and protocols to them with the same England, the USA, or Japan were secretly secured according to the “secret record keeping”, and the “punctures” to the “Non-aggression pact” with Germany were secreted by Stalin and Molotov in a special, cunning way, so that “the enemies wouldn’t Have you ever known? ”

      Was there a boy? (with)
      1. Alexey T. (Oper)
        Alexey T. (Oper) 1 September 2016 13: 59
        +2
        Don't read your opponent carefully. I do not claim that this is a genuine document, therefore I wrote: "in a document that appears in historical science ...".
        Personally, I also doubt the authenticity of a number of signs. But until it is officially recognized that this is a fake, one has to proceed from the fact that it is genuine.

        As for the rules of secret records management, I have been working with them since my military service, since 18 years
    2. sdv68
      sdv68 1 September 2016 14: 37
      +6
      Quote: Alexey T. (Opera)

      The document, which in modern history appears as a secret additional protocol to the Non-Aggression Treaty between the USSR and Germany,
      It's just until the originals of this "secret protocol" have been found to speak of its authenticity somewhat prematurely. Moreover, even if we assume that the joint venture was actually signed in the form in which it is available on the Internet, then there is nothing illegal in it. An ordinary (by modern standards) document on the division of spheres of interest and nothing more.
  18. Hapfri
    Hapfri 1 September 2016 13: 19
    +2
    avt,
    Yes, they increased the territory, cut it off at the expense of Germany, but at the same time they carried out brutal repressions, with arrests in the army, with reform of ownership, and persecution of the church
    1. sdv68
      sdv68 1 September 2016 14: 32
      +5
      Quote: Hupfri
      avt,
      Yes, increased the territory, cut at the expense of Germany,
      Well, let, before all the showdowns, the territories donated by Stalin be returned. Then you can talk about something illegal there.
      but at the same time they carried out brutal repressions, with arrests in the army, with reforming forms of ownership, and persecution of the church
      The reform of property in the transition to socialism was implied by itself. Just like army reform. And as for the church, so if my memory serves me well, under Stalin there was no particular persecution. And with the advent of corn, this is another topic.
    2. avt
      avt 1 September 2016 14: 34
      +6
      , cut at the expense of Germany, but at the same time they carried out severe repressions, with arrests in the army,
      Which one? Those who were stirring up the Promethean movement were quieted down in Katyn, and not all of this army was, but specific representatives of the “power bloc.” Who else? The Andersovs, formed by Stalin, left the USSR quite calmly. The Kraiovtsy were bombed even in the forests, but when they specifically started shooting in the back of the Red Army, as soon as the advanced units went to Germany. ”And they did the right thing, but how did they want it?
      with reform of ownership, persecution of the church
      Well, it’s not Poles whining about the lost property. Such a private sector was probably nowhere in the socialist camp, and about the oppression of the Catholic Church. laughing Liar! Rub someone else! Even close was not what the Bolsheviks did in Russia with the Russian Orthodox Church. Wojtyla went through all the steps, and in Poland, until he became a Roman priest. One can talk about anything, about the imposition of socialism, but not about the oppression of the Catholic Church in Poland. Even frank anti-advisers were not touched, only very specific agents for specific, proven acts that were recognized by the then legislation as criminal.
      1. Hapfri
        Hapfri 1 September 2016 18: 40
        +2
        But did the Poles really want the commissars to come? As for the church, many parishes were closed, the priests were elementarily accused of espionage. You have no doubt there would be a man, and the article
        there is. There were no problems with this.
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 2 September 2016 15: 48
          +3
          about the closure of the parishes, and in the accusations of the priests can you link to the numbers? belay
        2. avt
          avt 2 September 2016 17: 39
          +2
          You have no doubt there would be a man, and the article
          Again art whistle
          Uncle Murzik Today, 15:48 ↑ New
          about the closure of the parishes, and in the accusations of the priests can you link to the numbers?
          That's it - give names, addresses, appearances, as well as specific sentences and their execution. And the stuff doesn’t carry here.
          As for the church, many parishes were closed,
          How many temples are closed in Europe now? Stalin also closed? Or is Putin already? wassat Once again - the swamp chatter does not roll, at least for whom kill yourself.
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 1 September 2016 14: 15
    +4
    By the way ... the Polish "elite" after the occupation of Poland by Germany, offered the Germans to form a collaborationist government in the occupied territory ... with all the consequences ...
  20. Semenov
    Semenov 1 September 2016 15: 26
    +8
    The Poles are the Slavs who have been rolled back. I apologize for mentioning in vain. Until 1938, they demolished more than 2500 Christian churches, including the Church of Alexander Nevsky in Warsaw and the stone blocks of the destroyed churches of the authorities encouraged to use for the construction of indecent places with corresponding inscriptions. Well, how can one not remember the past of the country and not predict its future - it was erased from the map earlier and will be erased now. I am sure.
  21. demotivator
    demotivator 1 September 2016 17: 10
    +8
    A few words still need to be said about the Polish "elite", otherwise the topic will not be fully disclosed. On this occasion, the opinion of many authorities could be cited, I will dwell only on Winston Churchill. Immediately, I note that this was the worst enemy of our country, who shit a lot on her when he was the Prime Minister of Great Britain. But, we must give him his due, because he was still an extraordinary man, an all-round educated politician, a wonderful artist and an outstanding historian who became a Nobel Prize laureate for his historical works. In 1940-1945. was the Prime Minister of Great Britain, that is, on duty, he communicated with the government of Poland in exile - with those who predetermined the defeat of Poland by the Germans in 1939. In his major work "World War II" Sir Winston dodges like a loach to about You can't tell the Katyn affair at the height of the Cold War, and you can't lie openly, but on the whole, this section leaves a clear impression that the Poles were shot in Katyn by the Russians. So the Poles should treat his work with full confidence. Including those parts of the book in which he writes about Poland and its elite: “It should be considered as a secret and tragedy of European history that people capable of any heroism, some of whom are talented, virtuous, charming, constantly display such huge flaws in almost all aspects of their state life. Glory in times of rebellion and grief; infamy and shame during periods of triumph. The bravest of the brave too often have been led by the most infamous of the vile! And yet two Poland always existed: one of them fought for the truth, and the other crawled into meanness. ”
    Like this! Poland was ruled by the most infamous of the vile! Die, but you can’t say better.
    And here is the opinion of the Polish elite of another outstanding person, also an ardent opponent of the USSR, an excellent commander, whom even the Germans, in this case, not untiring, wanted to see the commander of the German-Polish armies in the war with the USSR, the actual founder of pre-war Poland, Jozef Pilsudski. Already in 1927, at the congress of legionnaires in Kalisz, he said: “I came up with many beautiful words and definitions that will live after my death and which put the Polish people in the category of idiots”.
    When Pilsudski became seriously ill and knew that he would die soon, this thought became obsessive: “I have thought more than once,” he said in conversation with Slivinsky, “that when I die, I will curse Poland. Today I realized that I won’t do that. When after death I will appear before God, I will ask him not to send great people to Poland. ”
    Thus, on the eve of World War II, the USSR government had to deal with the words of Churchill and Pilsudsky with the vile idiots at the head of Poland. Moreover, as Churchill noted, this is not an accident, but the Polish tradition. You could even say that putting vile idiots on your neck is a Polish national sport.
    This is an exhaustive characteristic of the Polish elite.
    As one advanced prime minister used to say: "cast in granite", and do not even knock it out with a tpor.
  22. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 1 September 2016 18: 11
    +3
    Poland - Jackal of Europe (c) W. Churchill
  23. Hapfri
    Hapfri 1 September 2016 18: 20
    +2
    Quote: avt
    Or is the Krasny Army like this, past the liberation of Kiev from the Polish invaders near Warsaw? Teleported, only Misha met at Minsk headquarters? laughing That's interesting - is it so simple from ignorance, or such a cute liar?
    The USSR really fought against Poland, carried out subversive work, and suddenly said, and now we’ll be protecting you and introducing a million-strong army into your territory.
    Poles ASKED TO PASS RKKA troops to assist Czechoslovakia BEFORE the Germans attack Poland, in accordance with the agreement between Czechoslovakia and the USSR

    How do you think "to let the Red Army into Czechoslovakia"? The army is not moving by rail, in single file, moving from head to back. The army is moving in several directions. And it's not an easy process. This means that many roads, and therefore settlements, will be under the control of the Red Army units. Together with communications. Doesn't it look like anything?
    The rebellion of the Czechoslovak corps 20 years before the events described. R-times, and half of Siberia were in the hands of the Czechs.
    Could the Poles go for it? Never....

    Well, the Red Army in the 20th naturally didn’t by itself find itself near Warsaw. I got there with fights, and the Poles remembered all this very well and didn’t want to repeat, the question was whether Warsaw, or maybe Germany, was still torn by contradictions, with battles on the streets of military units of different parties .... Germany on the eve of the upheavals. It would be nice to drink horses in the 20th on the Elbe and the Rhine.
    1. Alexey T. (Oper)
      Alexey T. (Oper) 1 September 2016 19: 27
      +3
      In your reasoning you do not take into account two important nuances.
      1. In Poland, the Red Army would not be alone, but together with the Polish army.
      2. The RCAA conclusion would be guaranteed by such gigantic European theory as France and England. And to contact them because of the Poles, voluntarily getting into the World War, there was no reason.

      As for the Polish campaign of the RCAA, it would not have taken place at all if the Poles had not decided to profit from someone else's expense
      1. Alexey T. (Oper)
        Alexey T. (Oper) 1 September 2016 20: 51
        +3
        Tablet, infection ....

        The conclusion of the Red Army would be guaranteed by such giants of European politics as England and France.
      2. Hapfri
        Hapfri 1 September 2016 23: 01
        +2
        Well, what to compare the size of the Polish and Red armies. Generally disproportionate things. On tanks, planes. ...
        The difference was a hundred times. Plus the red army would be distributed
        over a significant area of ​​Poland. Where is the front, where is the rear ....
        Yes, and any natural barriers such as Finnish rocks
        there were no forests and swamps.
        What guarantors of the western countries do we now know from the results
        "strange war".
        1. Molot1979
          Molot1979 11 October 2016 08: 31
          0
          This we NOW know. And in 1939 no one knew about the meanness of the Anglo-French. Moreover, not the entire Red Army from Kamchatka to Minsk was to come to the aid of Czechoslovakia, but the strictly agreed number of divisions. Even all of them together would not be enough to occupy Poland. So there would have been no spreading of Soviet troops all over the entire Polish territory, and they would not have seized communications centers. Yes, and hardly walked on foot - imagine, already then there were steam locomotives in the USSR. The Poles refused to let us through because they themselves expected to profit from the Czechs, as it turned out in real history.
  24. Danil Laryon
    Danil Laryon 1 September 2016 19: 32
    +4
    oh psheki psheki
  25. Alexey T. (Oper)
    Alexey T. (Oper) 2 September 2016 10: 41
    +2
    Quote: Aleksander

    therefore the Bolshevik putsch and the Brest shame they signed are the main causes of the Second World War.
    Did the cat eat the kittens? This is Lenin's fault ...
    1. Molot1979
      Molot1979 11 October 2016 08: 33
      0
      Wow, and the whole world is still sure that this Treaty of Versailles paved the way for WWII. Urgently contact the Nobel Committee - a history prize is guaranteed.
  26. Alexey T. (Oper)
    Alexey T. (Oper) 2 September 2016 10: 46
    +3
    Quote: Hupfri
    Well, what to compare the size of the Polish and Red armies. Generally disproportionate things.

    It does not take into account the fact that the Red Army was already beaten by the Poles in the 1920 year. At the same time, all international experts of that time the Red Army was not considered as particularly combat-ready.

    And if we add English and French to the Polish army, which would guarantee the withdrawal of the Red Army from Poland, then the Red Army has no chance of winning this hypothetical war.
    1. Hapfri
      Hapfri 4 September 2016 14: 24
      0
      The Red Army bat was in the 20th all the same due to the rare stupidity of some of our commanders. Parts management problems overlap with rivalry
      1. Hapfri
        Hapfri 4 September 2016 14: 42
        0
        In the late 30s, the USSR successfully conducted industrialization and the Red Army received large quantities of modern weapons. The same Vickers was in service in Poland (7TR) and in the USSR (T-26) only in the USSR it was built in thousandths. The West did not have such an army
  27. Alexey T. (Oper)
    Alexey T. (Oper) 2 September 2016 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: Hupfri
    What guarantors of the western countries do we now know from the results
    "strange war".

    So the fact of the matter is that we know it only now. And in the 1939 year, the Poles didn’t know how. And not only the Poles ...
    1. Hapfri
      Hapfri 4 September 2016 14: 38
      0
      It could be assumed. By the way they passed the Ruhr, Austria, Czechoslovakia.
      1. murriou
        murriou 7 September 2016 09: 09
        0
        You can assume a lot of things, but to check these assumptions with a serious risk for your own skin, there is usually no one who wants to.
  28. Operator
    Operator 2 September 2016 11: 46
    +4
    In 1926 in Poland, a military (so-called reorganization) regime was established with the concentration of all branches of power in the hands of a president nominated by the military. The regime lasted until the collapse of Poland in 1939.

    The military regime was extremely aggressive and filed territorial claims against all neighboring states. Together with Germany, he participated in the occupation and partition of Czechoslovakia, after which he made the official proposals of Germany to organize joint aggression against the USSR.

    In such a situation, the Soviet leadership was simply obliged to eliminate the military threat in the person of Poland, which was done by concluding an agreement with Germany and implementing it after the collapse of the Polish state.

    If Poland will pose a military threat to the Russian Federation in the future, we will once again eliminate it - no one should doubt it.
  29. RoTTor
    RoTTor 4 September 2016 17: 20
    +1
    Present-day Ukraine plays the shameful role of that Poland in the European theater of the absurd - the anti-Russian mongrel - puppet.
    Really, the genetic memory of slaves climbs out.
    This is in Ross. Empire and the USSR Ukrainians were the majority in power.

    V.M.Molotov absolutely accurately described that Poland ..
    One can say even tougher about today's Ukraine.

    The final will be logical - for today's Poland and for what the prosperous and strong Ukrainian SSR has been turned into in 25 years of "independence"
  30. Hapfri
    Hapfri 5 September 2016 21: 53
    0
    parusnik,
    So what is it that Bulak-Balakovich collaborated with Polish intelligence.
    He was actually a general of the Polish army. It was to him that Yudenich’s army owed his failure.
  31. murriou
    murriou 7 September 2016 09: 15
    +1
    Quote: Hupfri
    All this was written in the Soviet school textbook for the tenth grade.

    In Soviet school textbooks, in general, many correct and useful things were written. wink
  32. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 23 February 2017 12: 39
    0
    The author was apparently not interested in Hitler’s book Mein kampf, it was the basis of the ideology and plans of the Nazis, it uncompromisingly defined a goal - to the east and living space. The USSR was considered only as India for B. Britain, no more. Britain, as an adversary, was not taken into account, rather, as a model for his Third Reich. As history has shown, Hitler scrupulously adhered to the canons of his creation. The author tries to foist a delirious idea from Soviet school textbooks, such as - Hitler intended to attack the USSR, bypassing Poland, or the continuation of the Polish company, an attack on the USSR. Hitler was a complete adventurer, but not so much as to attack the USSR in the fall or having hostile Poland behind. Why did the allies declare war on Germany, because they could “surrender” Poland, like Czechoslovakia and Hitler would calmly go east and created an excuse for Hitler to attack them. Germany declared war, the enemies attacked and the Germans only defended themselves, as Hitler explained and justified his actions. Facts such as unsuccessful counter say the extremely low fighting efficiency of the Allied armies. attacks by de Gaulle's tanks in 1940. Easy capture of British Crete, and like Rommel, with his small army, drove the British through the African desert.